4,000 Miles 2Up on a Triumph Bonneville | The Ultimate Beast for £3,500
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ส.ค. 2024
- In today's episode;
- 4,000 Miles 2Up on a Triumph Bonneville
- Nine days touring two up for under £1,100
- Real stories from 1970s bikers
- Huge insurance premiums
- Bike of the Week: The Suzuki Hayabusa
Bikes discussed this week:
Triumph Bonneville, BSA, Norton, Suzuki Hayabusa, MV Agusta Superveloce, Royal Enfield Classic 350
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Time Stamps:
0:00: Intro
0:48: Your Rides
9:14: How Was Old School Biking in the 70s and 80s?
15:33: Crippling Insurance Quotes
19:48: Bike of the Week: Suzuki Hayabusa - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
Thank you sooo much for featuring me on your video today. I currently love my 2013 Triumph Bonnieville so much and if I was only going to keep 1 bike, that would be the one. I really appreciate your channel as I have learned a couple things from you in regards to the starting issues you were having. Great info. Out of all the bikes I’ve had and currently have , think my Bonnieville and the CBF1000 stand out as some favourites. I know you have recently talked about the CBF, such a shame they discontinued it. The two worst bikes I ever owned where the Kawasaki Vulcan 750 and the TW200. Not that the TW is a bad bike, just that the one I bought was. Look forward to your videos. Can’t wait to see your Bonnie back! 👍Cheers!
What a small world ... Whilst I was living in Canada a few years ago I bought a Yamaha XT500 off Recycle Motorcycles and dealt with Jen to get it shipped to me. She was brilliant at her job. Hi Jen if you're reading!
61 year old biker, whose family holidays used to be bike shows. My daughter attended her first bike show at age 5, which we rode to on a Metro engined trike. Daughter is now 32. I am still riding and still own military surplus waterproofs!
Very clever of Jamie to propose just before a 6 week bike trip… very difficult for her to say no in those circumstances 😉😂
Freddie! You don’t know what a Donkey jacket is? Great bit of kit in the day. Think of a sawn off waist length Duffle Coat, no hood and round buttons! Some had plastic shoulder covers! Trigger used to wear one in Fools and Horses. Surprised they never made a comeback! Warm and waterproof and cheap!
Now I remember them from the early 90s! I have no idea why they’ve not made a comeback😳
@@christga100 I remember them in the 60’s. The ones without the plastic shoulder covers were great. Used them on my paper round and to ride to school. Great bit of kit.
@@christga100 I would buy one tomorrow IF it was the same quality as the original.
Remember Duffle coats? Really great bit of kit and used by The Desert Rats and 22 SAS. They should make a comeback as well. 🙂
@@christga100 HaHa! Have seen them on EBay. I do see Walt’s wearing them occasionally. I would love to get my hands on an original.
Freddie the year is 1971 i have a bsa super road rocket brilliant week we saw Bill Ivy ,jacamo agostini phill Reed and many more riders.We sailed from liverpool where they craned the bikes on wing mirrors everywhere absolute madness all week .Mad sunday was good the moutain circuit made one way and no speed limit ,happy days. Ian
You're right about older bikes. About 3 years ago, I picked up a 1997 Honda CBR600F, immaculate with less than 2,000 miles. Fully comp insurance has never been more than £100, and it's a lot of fun. Less than 200kg and 95bhp.
I have a modern bike too which is about 3 times the price to insure.
Best Tuesday ever thanks😊note Fred that all hyabusa were fuel injected so no gummed up carbs to worry about for an older machine
Hi Freddie. I would say that Suzuki were late to the show iro very fast sports tourers. The ZZR 1100 C1 arrived in 1990 and was an immediate success. Kawasaki upgraded The ZZR C to a D1 in 1992. A 180 mph top speed, 2 up comfort for fast long mileage cruising at around 50 mpg. The BHP was 150 from the 1048 CC engine but remember The RAM air carb system (also on the ZZx9R) used to give you a huge kick in the back boost at around 8000 rpm! This was immeasurable on a Dyno . The ZZR 1100 came in restricted format but we used to derestrict it with a £50 set of carb tops! They were great great bikes! In 1996 Honda released Their Blackbird sport tourer which was slightly quicker and then Suzuki with the larger engined Hyabusa in 1996. I owned a ZZR110 C1 and a D1. We travelled all over Europe, Scandinavia and North Africa without a hitch. Rear tyres however rarely lasted more than a thousand miles! I still have my D1 but it needs recommissioning and I haven’t ridden it for quite a few years sadly. Many wonderful happy memories! They were great bikes!
Ah, the original Hayabusa; I did my CBT in 2000, and the instructor was on one - awesome machine!!
Well done Freddie. Very good. I like your explanation of relative insurance costs of the same bikes of different years. Real word information that will benefit others.
I Freddie I’m still riding at the age of seventy seven on my Himalayan and new Bmw 750 gs and just back from moto camping on the north pennines and next week of to Scotland for a four day tour , I really enjoy Tuesday at Dobbs.
Hayabusa is a Japanese term for a peregrine falcon which guess what used to swoop down mountains and prey on blackbirds. Apparently that is why Suzuki chose the name. Omg at the time and still grabs me one of the sweetest engines pulls in any gear any speed the torque is incredible. Early brakes where cheese and suspension ok. Surprisingly comfortable. Nearly nearly…bought one aerodynamics just perfik a bubble of calm air at speed tucked in. Tested it back to back with a ZZR 1400 and that had the edge with more modern tek. Regret it still to say I actually owned one. Enjoying your chats and experiences of the road trips 👍
As the Honda Super Blackbird was named after the SR71 aircraft, it was as usual stupid Suzuki marketing rubbish, I'd have a 20+ year old Honda than a cheese suzuki any day.
Yes probably more Hondas than old Suzuki’s left on road 😅 loved my pre VTec Vfr800 still one of my fave bikes.
Just a friendly reminder that there are scammers spamming the massages, beware! Don’t buy or give your details to anyone even if you think it’s Freddie.
52 years old and bought my first bike last year, the Royal Enfield Meteor 350 insurance through Progressive in the USA cost me 75 dollars per year
I've had my Busa for about 2 months and it's the best out of the many bikes I've had. It's just the same as going from a 600cc bike to a 1000cc
A donkey jacket is like what bin men used to wear, a course black woolen material with a shiny black material across the shoulders. Well, that's what I had from work in the 90's, it might have been different in the 70's.
Old rider here: now 65 and starting at 17 ish, first real bike in Germany a Suzuki gt 185 ram air. When I got back to uk as a punk rocker I continued biking all the way to 65. One bike the hayabusa, mine was a brand new 2000 model and maybe the most incredible machine i ever owned, it was the de restricted one. Get one
Another gem sold in the US was the Kawasaki ZX14 Ninja and, I believe, 176 HP! Very docile but fierce if that was your choice.
Sorty #1 Someone else who knows how great northern Thailand is. Far better than twee Bali. Story #3 A Triumph 1200 Scrambler is the perfect bike to tour on. Story #4 I i used to tour Europe on a Mk1 Africa Twin.
Black leather jacket and blue armoured jeans, bootcut and Roof Boxer V8 helmet for me. On the subject of the Hayabusa, I had the naked version, the B-King, for over seven years. Fantastic bike and surprisingly good to tour on. Earlier, I had an R1100GS for 14 years. I did 91,000 miles on that.
As enetertaining as ever, Freddie. Nick J
Hi Freddie Have read Graham Ham's books, Daisy's Diaries. Some great yarns about biking and rallies in the nineties. Thoroughly recommend it.
Nice idea for you to propose to Monica as well, Freddie!😁
You mentioned 2 up long distance touring, i watch Lavi and Ollie, what a pair these 2 are to slog it out like that.😮😮😮😊😊😊
Here in Bulgaria, it's the vehicle that is insured, not the person, so bikes are done in cc bands, but NO insurance company in Bulgaria will insure a bike for theft, but on my 99 ZX9R , I pay the equivalent of £45 a year, a mot is about £18 and lasts 2 years, and no road tax on bikes!
WOW!!!
Hi Freddie I grew up in my family's Honda 5 STAR dealership in the 70's, the last factory course i did was for the CBX1000 which was way to big for me. I built my CD175A5 out of the crate in 1975 but had to tax it in 1978 as my car packed up. I just sold it to a very old friend but after looking at your RE video reviews I bought a Hunter 350 this year. I love it but its too heavy for this 66 years old and my feet only just touch the ground! Any suggestions for lighter lower bike?
Not a fan of the sports bikes at all but this machines are a serious piece of kit. The fact they haven’t changed much in 24 years is testament to that, not a fan but huge respect goes towards those bikes and the riders especially.
Ipswich had great biker pubs in 80s when I started riding.
The Running Buck and Railway in Ipswich. The Wheatsheaf at Tattingstone on the A137 and the White Hart in Mainingtree.
Bulldog bash and Kent custom show.
Top bands , strippers and no police cameras. They had to catch you in them days. Suffolk police only had 1300 mk2 escorts.
We have become very tamed bikers now.
I seem to remember my 1998 Blackbird had 164 bhp according to the brochure.
How about this Freddie, I bought a 1991 zzr1100 with only 18040 miles on the clock last November. I spent spring and early summer totally renovating it, then wanted to ride it so looked online for an insurance quote. The first one I got was from Swinton insurance for £75.18p fully comp, but get this, that was without any no claims discount and no excess in the event of a claim. I have spent this summer on a 147 bhp 175mph missile of a bike for less than £1500, can anyone beat that?
Loved that video by the way, regards Stephen Latchford.
There's a 2002 Busa on AutoTrader bikes right now for £2950 with 38,500 miles on it.
My quote on a triumph street triple 2012 - £3800 / Yamaha MT07 2017 - £1800. I went with an 04 SV650s - £650 (Fully Comp) as my first big bike. Traded in my Ninja 250R (£900 fully comp). I am 25 Years old and have 0 NCB
Very very interesting- such a huge difference!
Back in 1999 I owned a new Honda Hornet 600, a great bike at the time but a friend had just bought a new gold Hyabusa, the stories of just how powerful and fast this bike was were enough to reject any offers of a ride on one but I was offered a blast on his, to be honest I didn't want to ride it because of it's reputation but with other bikers looking on I went for it, I rode it sensibly never pushing those horses and enjoyed the fifteen minute ride and on my safe return I explained it was just a big friendly pussy cat, actually a pleasure and joy to ride.
Get Down to the Super Sausage
Cafe on a Sunday & you will find
Plenty of Old School Bikers 65 plus
I hit My 68th Birthday on
September 29th ( Friday)
Been Biking Since 29th September
1973 ..not planning to give up
Anytime soon
Bike World vs Carwow Drag Race! | TTS SuperBusa vs Dani Pedrosa on a KTM MotoGP Bike vs Rimac Nevera Freddie you need to watch this from Chris at bike world on on a Haybusa tweaked draging against Dani Pedrosa on his MotoGP KTM race bike it really is a good watch .I hope you can find it I saved it because it was so good and as well there is a chat with Dani going through the switch gear on his race bike really interesting "well it was to me "😉great thanks 👌👍
In 1977 only the wealthiest could afford leather jackets, for the poverty stricken you might be surprised to learn we wore Belstaff wax cotton trail masters and the associated trousers if it rained. On our feet it was Derriboots - a kind of bikers welly boot. A few years ago a chucked out 2 complete sets of Belstaffs having no idea they had become so popular and expensive.
So true😂even my helmet was second hand, full face with no visor chipped to death, came with my fs1e
This not going on Spotify anymore?
My first bike back to biking after a 10 year break was a gen 2 Busa. I mean, i survived the experience but I wouldn't recommend it. something around the 100 bhp range would've been more than enough!
That is a serious return to biking bike!😆
@@tuesdayatdobbs Freddie ,my son had a 2014 busa .after 2013 they had brembos fitted as standard . i rode it and you can ride it quite docile . it is a real all rounder . another bike my son had was a yamaha m t 10 . when he was in hospital having chemo ,he asked if i would take it for its 1st service ,which i did , have you ridden an m t 10 ? .
Working for the ministry of defence back in the late 70's donkey jackets were free issue.
Some had writing on them and l
Always used to laugh when I saw a lad on a scooter with 'MOD' on the back of his jacket
Luckily mine was unmarked but we all wore them on our bikes.
Have you got yr Bonneville sorted yet
Luvs you Brother from another Mother x🤗🇿🇦you’re such a starry eyed romantic,totally see why M loves you. most about you congratulations. Meeting such a lovely lady
I look forward to the day you finally put your hand in your pocket and buy a bike …… hope you don’t sell your triumph, it’s worth sod all but it must be part of you by now. But it’s definitely time you bought a newer bike for future adventures. You must be tempted by something much different but the obvious bike for you is the T120. Then you would definitely appreciate the extra power but fall in love all over again. The Enfield , whilst a great bike , would make you feel short changed eventually. I think you are a similar rider to me so you don’t need mad power, but 48 just wouldn’t cut it on the trips you make.
I have gone down to 57 hp on my Harley street 750 and it’s just enough. I know, one day, I will go for the T120. It really is the perfect bike.
You’re right James- I should really buy another bike. The T120 makes perfect sense, but I think I’d go for something different (especially if I keep my Bonneville).
I bought a Blackbird for £800 a few years back. I overhauled the brakes and put a fresh pair of tyres on and it sailed through it's MOT.
Absolute bargain!!!
That is a ludicrous bargain for so much bike!
@@tuesdayatdobbs I was at the right place at the right time
Hi Freddie, a ponderment; in 10yrs time, which '99 Busa do you feel will gain the better price? A fully serviced 'carpet monster' with fresh tyres & less than a hundred miles on the clock, or the one still sealed inside it's original & carefully stored crate? : )
Ooooo I like this. I have to say the one still in its crate
Ah, but 35 year old fluids & perishables?! (Dramatic & chem-corrosive chord : )
Freddie, back in 1999 at Bentley bike night there was a chap who turned up on the “Shitbrown” coloured Hayabusa with the number plate T200MPH. I wonder whether the bike is still around wearing that plate?
That plate unused now on mot history
I wonder how much the insurance was in the 70s 💰 🤑
*Regarding insurance in the UK and Europe: Can you option only liability coverage and leave out coverage on yourself and your bike?* In other words, have insurance only to cover a lawsuit but you use your own medical insurance and replace your bike out of pocket.
Yes, that's what Third Party Only insurance is.
A donkey is a working man's jacket from the 70s and 80s
Thanks Kenneth. That is a totally new one for me!
I am surprised no has brought one out again for the nostalgia off it loads off people wore them but sadly not me as I was a mod in the 70s with my Parker and lambie scoot
I used to love my Donkey Jacket.......
Freddie, I have lost the track on your Triumph. Have you got it back? Last time you spoke about your bike was when some bikers where sending you the gasket.
The gasket arrived three weeks ago, but the mechanic’s backlogged with work😩
@@tuesdayatdobbs 🙈
We forgive you for not going on more camping trips Freddie. We all know Monica is absolutely not that type of girl and there must be very few if any opportunities for any real adventures. Well life is about sacrifices after all if you ask me, and Freddie, you seem to be doing pretty good at the very least so I think we can all understand you 💯👍👌.
Any news on the triumph Freddie or have I missed the update?
The mechanic has the part, but he has a huge backlog of work, so it’s currently in the queue to be worked on. I reeeeeally hope any day now🤞🏼
Sorry to say it Freddie but you should be first in the backlog. T
You’ve been waiting how long? And you are at the back. You need to find a new guy.
Hi Fred, whilst owning a vfr800 fi I test rode a honda blackbird in around 1989 ish. It frightened me to death holding 3rd gear to the redline. The surroundings were moving faster than my brain. Ithought my vfr was a fast nice manageable bike. This thing put me off blackbird/hayabusa style bikes. Hard to turn due to their length wheelbase and just so overpowered. Admittedly was Ona test drive so giving it some beans so don’t know what like to ride sensibly but both bikes supremely over engineered and reliable. I was following a hayabusa in wales recently and in the bends I was easily able to keep with him but as soon as there was a straight it was like I was stood still and the exhaust sounded like he wasn’t even gunning it just using oodles of torque. Looked so uncomfortable though to stay in that position for hours
I think my girlfriend would kill me if I proposed on a motorbike trip XD. She's wonderful in that she puts up with my obsession, but she does so very reluctantly.
If you think a r1100gs having 80hp and the hiyabusa having 175hp is comparable. You missing the point. The bmw would've probably had 6x the torque at lower rpm. That was how the bike was designed. Besides the fact its an air/oil cooled twin.
Not so …….bmw max torque 97nm at 5500rpm, Hayabusa 150nm at 7000rpm. Slight weight difference but… tortoise and hare
@volt8684 that is impressive torque but I guess it is like a 1.3 car engine. Definitely tortoise and hare . Anyone who buys an 80hp GS shouldn't be expecting sports bike performance.
Suzuki Hayabusa: Butt ugly, unnecessary, too fast, pointless. I've just run in my 6th, a Gen 3. Ain't no other bike like it....
Those were the days, sex, drugs and rock and roll. Now it’s specs, rugs and sausage rolls !
Freddie. Love the content on all youre channels. Super informative. However, in all your Tuesday at Dobbs bids you look like you are melting. Feel like you need a defuser on your lighting set up. It's like watching a man who is about to pass out from heat stroke!
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Ahhhh Thanks Paul! I was wondering why I always look like I’m recording the videos in 38degree heat, even when I’m not remotely hot
😅1999 bike what about ulez sick khans laws a beautiful bike for 4000 pounds and 12.50 a day if you live in his domaine SAD.
Love this channel great stories.. but just to be clear getting boosted up on amphet*** followed by grabbing and cooking a random sheep, I'd be willing to bet, was definitely not as romantic as Freddie dreamed here.. I bet it was F**kin awful in reality.. not my favourite email that one lol!
Freddie I need help I honestly do I have a 1200 G.S. B.M.W. 05 and have suffered a fuel pump casing issue which ruined my holiday to the T.T. this year. On contatcting B.M.W. I have been fobbed off quote not their problem ???
I appreciate its an 05 bike but they have had many many re calls re the fuel pumps in one form or another and I am not preprade to let this company walk all over me I also understand this is not your normal re mit / request and if its not what you wish to get involved in I also 100% understand but Iam going to make as much noise on this one as I can becuse its just not right "principal of the thing" Hence contacting all folk that count in the biking world ??? I am 70 years old and had many many bikes not one has let me down in this form and never ever has a company treated me in this disgusting way if there is anything you can do to help it would be much appreciated if not I do understand and no issue Cheers !!!
Hi Freddie
Sent you a message on Instagram. had a message off what looks like a fake account showing your photo and name
Thanks for the heads up Malcolm and sorry to hear that!😡
No worries always happy to help