1936 Auto Union Type C V16 Sound In Action at Festival of Speed 2018!
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- Goodwood FoS is always full of surprises and rare pearls. This is the Auto Union Type C, a GP car from 1936 powered by a supercharged 6.0-litre V16 engine that was able to produce 520hp at 5,000 rpm and reach a top speed of 340 km/h.
Designed by Ferdinand Porsche the car was possibly the most innovative pre-war race car featuring an unusual rear mid-engine layout with the driver sitting in front of it (at the time the front engine + rear-driver layout was considered the state of the art). The fuel tank was placed in the center and thanks to those "innovations", concessions for the drive shaft and transmission tunnel were no longer necessary.
Due to the 40/60 weight distribution and the massive engine power the car tended to oversteer (it was known to produce wheel spin at speeds as high as 100 mph).
Driven by Bernt Rosemeyer Hans Stuck, Ernst von Delius and Achille Varzi it was the most successful German racing car, winning three of the five Grand Prix races, half of the circuit races and all the hill-climbs that Auto Union entered.
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Amazing car. Just shows what fantastic drivers Bernd Rosemeyer and the other pre-WW2 drivers were.
Just image 600 + Horsepower and no seat belts. These guys were the fighter pilots of their era.
Very few could drive these cars at speed. But those who did competed very well.
Rosemeyer did well with this monster because he had raced motorcycles before racing cars. Thanks to that experience he was used to having little grip and twitchy handling. When he made the transition to car racing he made the other drivers look careful and modest in their driving - and they drove wildly indeed.
Back when people couldn't make a bigger tyre so they just put 2 of them for rear tyres
This is the hill climb version. That's also why it's geared so short.
Hahaha..that's exactly what I was about to write!! hahahaha
youre daft.
Yeah...they didn't do that.
@@WaRLoKWYATT yes.....for hillclimbs
This is a real German masterpiece.
Insane sound and mind boggling performance 🔥🔥🔥
Don't mind me, I'm just counting pipes over here
Can you count that high with out using you fingers and toes !
16, is a v16 in which each cylinder has its own little exhaust tube
It's a modern day Indy car or F1 before they ever thought about putting the engine behind the driver. Approximately 30 years before its time.
At the time they called it a rear engine car!
@@KeyWestChrisRehm A rightly so. The engine is clearly to the rear. A time when people didn't feel the need to pigeonhole everything into smaller and smaller categories.
Richard Adams. Others had tried it in the 1910's already but it was more often a disadvantage than an advantage. Mercedes had the 1923 "Tropfenwagen" as their first mid-engined race car. As for the Auto Union. It did indeed have the edge around 1934-1936. But then Mercedes made their front-engined monsters in 1937-1938-1939 and beat the rear-engined Auto Unions at most Grand Prix races. So following WWII it was still thought that front-engined cars were superior. The fact was the chassis technology, suspension and brakes were still not up to the task of harnessing a mid-engined car so the layout was indeed too early to work.
Cooper revived the mid-engine concept in Formula 1 in 1955. Cooper had raced mid-engined F3 cars in the late 1940's already and done well. By 1958 Cooper were winning races in F1 and in 1959 they were world champions. Indycars were front-engined roadsters until Lotus (the famous F1 team) arrived with a mid-engined car at Indianapolis in 1963. In 1965 two time F1 world champion Jim Clark broke all records and dominated the Indy500 by leading almost the entire race.
Btw, Cooper arrived with a mid-engined car at the Indy500 in 1961 already. Driven by three time F1 champion Jack Brabham. As good a design as it was its advantage was for nought since it was underpowered. Lotus basically finished what Cooper had started.
@@paulallen8109 Great comment. Just take a look at the front suspension. Looks like Ferdinand Porsche's construction for the Volkswagen Beetle and if the rear suspension is a swing axle, this will not make the car easier to handle. Anyway, no (double)wishbones, no disc brakes, no radial steel tyres, no ground effect. That was it like before and after WW2. Gladiators behind the wheel.
@@Malc180s Back then they had a maximum weight to limit engine size
It must be very emotional for the driver to be behind the wheel of one of those. The driver, former F1 driver Hans-Joachim Stuck (the one with the blue helmet), learned how to drive from his father, Hans, who raced those cars for Auto Union in the 1930s, won many hillclimb races in those rear-engined beasts that could spin the wheels in top gear...
Stuck, of course, won the 1934 German GP in an Auto-Union Typ-A - a 3.2 litre precursor of this car.
As far as I know, the type A had a 4 litre engine, type b had 5 litres, that type c had 6litres, the type D is the one that had 3 litres owing to the new GP regs.
@@paulcaswell2813 The German Silver Arrows were so dominant at this time, but the next German GP in 1935 was won by Tazio Nuvolari in a quite outdated Alfa Romeo, with nowhere near the HP of the Auto Unions or Mecedes Benz. Proof that the fastest and most powerful cars don't always win! The mostly German crowd loved it, while the Nazi party was incensed by it.
more amazing is that his dad drove exactly the same car in hillclimb races that he drove at Goodwood...there is a interview wer J´Hans Joachim Stuck gets very emotional talking about that his dad raced this car
@@nagmashot I've seen that interview and can well understand his emotions! I met Hans, Jr. at Lime Rock Park here in the States, some years back during one of the Historic Festivals. Very cool man!
The numbers are almost unbelievable when you look at the thing, can't imagine how insane it was back in it's day! You couldn't pay me to go any where near the top speed of 340kmh in that...lol. The sound is so insane too, kind of makes me think of a plane mixed with a top fuel dragster...lol. Awesome spotlight video Bozzy!
I have to quote your "kind of makes me think of a plane mixed with a top fuel dragster"! That's exactly what I thought as soon as I was recording it leaving the start line hahaha Thank you so much for watching!
@@19Bozzy92 I had my doubts about the duals until I heard it run.....then I understood.
It sounds almost exactly like a big speed boat with two screaming v8's.
Jordan Statler its day*
Jordan Statler
The drivers didn‘t have seatbelts... nor modern overalls!
Engine on the back...30 years ahead of the first F1.
My favorite part with this cars is when the throat gets cleaned...so much history in those revvings
OceanSeaMaster in the middle, forward the axle
@@redram5150 dont be pedantic he just meant behind the driver.
It is still pretty amazing to think off what those drivers did in those cars.
@@machahitheshkumarreddy4334 I'm pretty sure you wouldn't get a registration here in Germany just because of the open wheels and the missing lights alone. Of course it could be adressed but why bother ? Maybe in other countries you could drive it but I don't think the car would like it much since it wasn't build for that.
Finding young men who are willing to put their lives on the line for a thrill is not unusual, just look at the level that extreme sports have reached today.
What is more unusual is finding *old* men who are willing to put their lives on the line for a thrill ;-)
@@tonyb9735 Well, I guess it's true when they say you feel immortal when you're young. I can't remember, I am way more on the old men half now.
Stirling Moss once said during his time risk was high and pay was low and now its reversed. Yes, drivers still get killed in accidents today, sadly. But at that time, stepping into a car, basically meant betting your life every time. And many lost that bet.
Reading a book about the battle between these Auto Unions and Mercedes sparked my love of automobiles and racing back in grade school during the '60's. Epic machines for their time and still today!
Good to see it’s survived all these years and didn’t go missing during the times of war
What you see in the video is a replica. No original car survived.
Interesting about Auto Union: th-cam.com/video/aYjWGdYhAO4/w-d-xo.html
@@magnusmoldmakerthere were few survivors...
There an Auto Union Type C/D hillclimb car that managed to survive, saved from imminent destruction by a professor in the Soviet Union in the 1980s. There's also a museum show car at Munich, a C Type that got damaged during the war, but eventually repaired. But since it's a show car, while it looked complete, it is devoid of internal parts, though I think Audi later bought that one and put it back in order. There's also several D types built up from parts found from various places in Eastern Europe...
that is insane! imagine driving this thing in a race.... close to suicide!! props to the pioneers!
You mean the Nazis?
@@RadiofilmEMU yes, tire killing Nazis bad
@@TheTomboter Dear Mr. Wombo, you may want to enlighten your racing knowledge. www.dw.com/en/audi-comes-clean-about-its-nazi-past/a-17664050, or read "Faster" by Neal Bascomb.
@@RadiofilmEMU yeah, brilliant engineers and pilots.
@@RadiofilmEMU The holocaust is one of many dark stains of man inhumanity to man and never should be forgotten so it won't happen again. That said I doubt there is one German / Axis country that did not use forced labor in one form or another for the simple reason it would of been considered bad form not to because after all the government has provided them to you because much of your work force has been sent to fight at the front and your country needs whatever you are making to win the war even if it is quite plan the cause is lost because to say such a defeatist thing would either get you shot or sent to the Eastern Front.and be used as infantry fodder. Mind you I am not approving in anyway of the Holocaust or the masterminds behind it but I don't think people today understand that people and companies could just not say No to the Nazi government or no to an order and to hold it against them now 75 years later is fool's errand because the time to have held it against them was during and just after the war.
What a glorious machine and what a incredible sound. Makes me proud to be a german. Thanks for uploading.
Peter Pretorius great car and germans are the best car engineers but in this case the car was developed during the nazi era i think
You are right... But the people, developing and building the car where no cruel nazis.There where great sportsman like Max Schmeling or sportevents like the olympic games in Garmisch in this era. The nazis exploited them for their aims, but that fact does not lower the sporting value. Sory for the bad english...
actually the auto union type a to d are all based on plans of ferdinand porsche and were then constructed in zwickau (saxony)
petr pan still not a tank or smth lile that so doesnt matter if Ferdinand Porsche designed them or helped or idk
did i ever claim that? i honsestly have great respect for ferdinand porsche and compareable engineers back in those days. they achieved phenomal things, unfortunately not always for the right usage
The type C and the type d are two of my favorite cars of all time absolutely incredible machines.
So here is Automotive royalty. This automobile is priceless to start. Way ahead of it's time being mid-engined. The first I know of to use an extra tire to utilize the prodigious torque of a V-16 no less (5000 rpm redline). This was 1937 - who even dreamed of machines like this? It was the best of the best, Mercedes Benz couldn't keep up this this one. It was world record on the track and on the land speed record - may Bernd Rosemeyer RIP.
Actually Mercedes Benz had raced a mid-engined car in 1923 already called the "Tropfenwagen" (teardrop car). It was a bit too ahead of time to work with the technology at the time. Btw, whole Auto Union did indeed rule Grand Prix racing in 1935 and 1936, Mercedes bounced back and won most races in 1937, 1938 and 1939 with the front-engined W125, W154 and W163 models. So yes, Mercedes Benz could keep up with this one and beat it too.
Btw, it was also Mercedes which took the January 1938 land speed record with Rudolf Caracciola driving. Bernd Rosemeyer tried going even faster in his streamlined Auto Union but lost control and died.
As for the land speed record. Like I said Caracciola drove the Mercedes W125 Stromliniewagen (streamliner) to the record public road speed record. By 1938 however the overall land speed record belonged to the Briton George Eyston who had driven to 501,16 km/h (311,42mph) with his Thunderbolt on November 19th 1937. This was at Bonneville.
While the mid-engined Auto Union was an advanced and great racing car it was by no means without peer even during its own era. Auto Union did however discover ground effect with their streamliner cars some 40 years before Lotus brought it to Formula 1 and started dominating with it.
Good grief what a machine! The engineering effort at the time must have tremendous and pretty much only someone of true genius could create it in my humble opinion. Those closeup shots with the engine revving is especially awesome, thanks so much Bozzy!
You're welcome dude! Glad you liked them ;)
And the person who created it was none other than Ferdinand Porsche - long before the company of that name was created :-D
sounds just like a flyby by a piston engined fighter!
I think it is a plane engine!
@@LegoWormNoah101
I doubt it, this engine has what, maybe 6L of displacement, fighter engines usually have around 20 to 30 L and are usually V12s, V8s or radial engines.
@@mandernachluca3774 6L V16? That's a small engine with a big amount of cylinders.
@@LegoWormNoah101
Yes, even more astounding is, that this thing had about 550 hp XD.
@@mandernachluca3774 ?!?!
In it's day that eas the very prak of sutomotive technology . You have to admire their brave drivers 80 years ago. Good to see the fearsom beast still running.
The sound at the start of a race back then must have been amazing.
That crankshaft has to be a masterpiece!
It is! As far as I knew, it's a multi-piece Hirth crankshaft, you had to dissassemble it to pieces to remove the conrods.
Thank you very much! One of the best videos I've seen in times. Always wanted to know how this beast goes. Knew the figures for years, but never seen it accellerate full throttle like this. Jesus Christ, that thing goes.
My respect for the drivers back then keeps on growing
Thanks a lot for the kind comment! Glad you appreciated it :)
Still as exciting as it was. What a brutal machine from times almost unimaginable now. Racing the Grand Prix version of this car for over 3 hours in races on often primitive roads is something else.
this beast is so beautiful!!
This machine is amazing! The dual rear wheels is just over the top! Wicked!
These are automotive jewellery. Though tools in the hands of the insanely brave.
Thanks for sharing this.
🙏🏼👍🏻
I've seen photos of this vehicle, but had no idea how it sounded. Awesome
Dr. Porsche did an excellent job.
1:00 glorious straight pipe downshift
The drivers of these beasts certainly had big kahunas along with a fair degree of insanity/lunacy . Fantastic technology, precision engineering & masses of grunt. Great post,thanks :))
Whoa, what a marvelous piece of old machinery sound, Nice!!
A priceless work of art ! Great camera work too !
Just an amazing piece of engineering
Beautiful in every way.
Yes!!!! Thank you Bozzy!!
You're welcome! ;D
Hi Bozzy. Just playing a little catchup in the comments section. Always watching and liking, just can't always find the time to pay compliments.😊 I really like how you called this one of those rare pearls. Indeed it is!👌 OMG, what a beast of a machine. If you shrunk it down in size, it resembles a soapbox derby car. But with that 16 cylinder engine capable of (did you say?) 340 kph, this thing is far from a toy. Wow! Hard to believe this was something that was built when my grandparents were small children.😲 Just amazing! Thanks to you and the boys for documenting this one sir, especially the closeups in the pits. Bravo guys!🙌🙏👏
A masterpiece of engineering and fabrication. As to be expected.
The engine bay is absolutely stunning in its detail work.
@sadwingsraging3044 - Check out CMC Models, Germany, their 1:18 scale diecast model of this car has incredible detail in the engine bay! I have a single rear wheel GP car and a dual rear wheel hill climber, as well as just the engine in its own display case. Magnificent!
The balls of the drivers to actually drive this beast much less race it. Extraordinary. And extraordinary and superior engineering. Damn
Great car, and the engine is just fantastic, hear that sound.
I was amazing this year, and so hot, I walked 4.5 miles just around Goodwood on the saturday !!! I can't wait for next year, Even having a chinwag with chris Harris was amazing !!
This car is completely unclassifiable ... one of those genius that gives the competition from time to time!!
The amazing thing is these raced on the Nurburgring back then. Pretty awesome!
And Rosemeyer, in 1936, won in thick fog whilst only seconds off a sunny lap time. The combination was phenomenal.
That sound is violent!
Some of this newbies will say this sounds like shit. But what they know. Perfect harmony.
TbH its sounds like shit.
You need to listen to this:
th-cam.com/video/ywjUujgp82k/w-d-xo.html
@@10zoll na, it doesn't sound like you.
To me, it's wonderful and scary at the same time. Somewhat like hearing a dinosaur roar
@@10zoll sounds like a beast to me
upps i somehow managed to post a wrong link?
meant this one
th-cam.com/video/ywjUujgp82k/w-d-xo.html
One car I've always wanted to see sounds awesome
An engineering masterpiece
unbelievably way ahead of its time
The only dualie I'd be happy to drive ;-)
The voice of torque and power!
Rear engine dynamics in '36!
Sounds like a plane :-)
chip tmcc *mid engine
TheEryk03.. Uh.. Ok....anything behind my head constitutes rear engine to me.
chip tmcc a typical Porsche 911 has a 'rear' engine. This is where the engine is placed behind the rear wheel axle. A mid engine is when the engine is placed between the wheel axles. Just to let you know
Joost Giesbers yep...had 3
Don't forget that the great Ferrari 250GTO also has its engine between the axles - in its case immediately behind the front one. In effect it is also a mid-engined car...
A real beast to drive at racing speeds!
Absolutely beautiful form an awesome achievement from the mechanical age.
Waouuu very elegant but a beast at the same time . Excellent footage, yes!
Thank you so much, as always! ;)
Fantastic!
Audio is the best!!!
Bloody brilliant,just think it is older than the majority watching this,near 90 yrs !!
That's a proper noise. What a beaut.
If you are wondering what's the deal with the double-rear wheels/tires? That was the setup for Auto Union racers for hill-climbs. Now imagine how dicey it was to race hill-climbs, as the runoff areas would either be the embankment on one side, or the cliff on the other side.
This is extremely remarkable to see a running Auto Union Type C race car that is in running condition. I recall back in the 1970s & 80s that the only known example, at the time, of this type of race car was a static display in East Germany. And also consider that it's amazing this pre-WW II example survived to this day, as in the dwindling years of the Third Reich, materials and resources were getting scarce, where this car could have been melted down for aircraft production.
I first became aware of the Auto Union back in my high school years in the early 1970s. My school library had various editions of "Automobile Quarterly", where one edition was devoted to the Auto Union; which contained many closeup pics of the car's inners. I just marveled at the car's innovative design and specs, as it was decades ahead of anything else at the time . . . as mid/rear engine, open-wheel GP racers, weren't becoming mainstream until the late 1950s . . . and at Indy in 1964.
this is the Auto Union Typ C Grand Prix but it's not a original.Audi built a replica of the Typ C and the Streamline Race Car Type C Avus.Also they own a original Typ C/D Hill Climb and a Typ D. The Typ C/D and D are in use for driving,the other two are displayed in the Audi-Museum/Ingolstadt.
That's gotta be one of the most valuable, uncomfortable and dangerous cars to drive at speed.
Blathering Bear - Though the car was capable of 200 MPH, the tires were not! They were the weak point of this iconic racing machine and likely, the brakes were too!
@@Loulovesspeed there was however a top speed version that could do 240 mph
@@Loulovesspeed the version in this video is a Hill climb car, it has multiple tires in the rear and is geared short
@@potatoavacadonion1025 Thank you, I was aware of that. That said, I don't believe any Auto Union ever attained 240 mph!
I can't figure out what impresses me the most, the technology of that era or the drivers mad enough to go full chat on these
From times when driving a car was actually exciting. 👍
hey bozzy! i saw the Goodwood-Festival here on YT by a Live-Stream...i think its the best "Motor-Event" in the world...i saw personally a lot of events, but this must be extraordinary ..how awesome it must be to be there as a Petrolhead:-) lets see, maybe i went there next year..
It is indeed ;)
Now that's an early Porsche!!
Glorious!
Muy hermoso y que maravilla de sonido.
Amazing!!!!!
Damn that sounds good
After 80 years si beautiful and impressive. And what for an engine and the noice sorry the symphony !!
My god what a piece of engineering.
Maestro musica ! 🎶👍
Absolutely wonderful footage!!! Formula e? Never heard of it
Well, it's Formula E, so you certainly won't be able to hear it...
Legendary.👍
Legendary.
EXELENTE AUTO UNION
The racing drivers then they were made of steel and fearless ,, no down force to make them stick to the road and handle better ,, with the extreme power these auto unions had it was very hard to handle on those skinny tyres ,, they could wheel spin at 100 mph and they could slightly do over 200 mph ,, and ran on a methanol mixture .... Wow these were fearless hard drivers.......
This is what you get when you have a racing formula which stipulates a maximum weight. No limit on engine. What a monster :)
bijna 80 jaar oud en klinkt 👍👍👍
Maybe one of the best sound i never heard woov🤤🤤
Beautiful 😆
Love it
looks like it's driving backwars, nice video though :D
Gašper Medved lol yes : D
haha I thought so, too
Couse it's mid engine
Thank you so much!
No problem :D
Interesting sidenote, Auto Union used drivers who came from motorcycle racing as the best way to corner this beast was to drift throught the corners. If you ever see footage of the cars in races, you will se that was the way it was done..
@Devolution - I believe that the great Italian driver, Tazio Nuvolari, is the one generally credited with learning how to drift to maximize speed into corners. P.S. Nuvolari had raced motorcycles earlier in his career.
Yet another legacy left by Mr Ferdinand Porsche.
The first winning RMR race car
They raced these monsters in the day with just two back wheels, and in the wet!!!
Wonderful 👍🙂
amazing 1936
What a machine
German engineering at its finest
Well taught car for the time line
What a Sound
16 Zylinder und Heckantrieb
Let it Rock
Bremm bremm brämmmmmmn.
Ha una gran retromarcia
While Auto Union made a GP car, this is not one of them. This Auto Union is set up for hill climb racing alone, as the dual rear wheels show. An amazing piece of racing equipment, particularly for its time!
This is the GP car, only it's set up or hillclimbing. Auto Union used GP cars for hillclimbing as well...
@@JCG-Alfamonza - Right, I was only pointing out that they didn't race GP cars with dual rear wheels. The gearing was changed also in the hill climb cars.
If you haven't seen it, CMC (Germany) makes an exquisite 1:18 scale diecast model of this legendary hill climber. I am fortunate to own 20 of their beautifully made die cast model cars and I can tell you that CMC is right at the top of highly detailed and accurate diecast model cars!
The Car reached the 340 km/h only in the AVUS-Version (a full covered Version); this Version with the twin tires was special or Mountainraces
Greatest car ever !!
Unsurpassed in pre WWII engineering, on a dry track they could break traction up to 150MPH and touch 200Mph. I am not German, but one has to respect the sheer brilliance of this machine, AND it's also mid-engine!!!
RAW FORCE
what an absolute unit
im very curious about its acceleration figures that monster got torque for days
Apparently it can lap the Nurburgring on top gear!
My absolute favorite Gran Prix cars. With the dual rear tires it must have been a hill climb contest.
90 years old car sounds like hell 😍😍😍😍😍
thats gotta smell so good
Showing how great a Type C Auto Union was, it could spin its rear wheels all the way up to 100mph as it has so much torque. Bernd Rosemeyer drove a V16-powered Type C - one that won a race on just 13 cylinders and, in another case, completed one whole lap of the Nordschleife in just one gear.