Demon Form & Energy Shield Are SO Good I've Been Mapping With Negative Res - Essence Drain Version

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    Hugely fun so far and it's nice that such strong sustain on demonform isn't that inaccessible. Not gonna be fun for everyone this type of playstyle where you gotta care of life, regen, stacks etc. but so far it's been fairly worthwhile from my pov.

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  • @Mathilification
    @Mathilification  20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +198

    OH SHIT forgot to mention that while lvling we try to avoid the canlde bro at the end of Act1 for the quests that give you extra life. So... yea don't do that.

    • @matthewdeklerk3457
      @matthewdeklerk3457 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +35

      they need to have some way of turning on or off these buffs. One mission literally gives you lightning res, RIP doryanis....

    • @twinmonkeycows9267
      @twinmonkeycows9267 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      @@matthewdeklerk3457 do those not give you an item that you have to use for the buff? just leave the item on the floor after the boss.

    • @SpaceMarine113
      @SpaceMarine113 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      whats the quest called? why avoid it?

    • @zankaa8031
      @zankaa8031 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

      ​@@twinmonkeycows9267nope, you just get the lightning res automatically after activating the statue

    • @zankaa8031
      @zankaa8031 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

      @@SpaceMarine113 candlemass boss. he literally said why to avoid it, it gives extra HP, this build minimizes HP to minimize demon form damage

  • @mikec670
    @mikec670 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +13

    Just a note to the casuals who don't have the time or ability to level new characters super fast, I would be extremely cautious of the builds people are advertising that rely on absurd energy shield and item rarity stacking. Builds that surround these mechanics are on the chopping block after the holidays, if you have the ability to exploit them while they are available by all means go for it and farm up what it takes to invest and then profit, but if you are not sure if you will be able to meaningfully farm in way that make investing into a new build significantly more advantageous than whatever you are playing right now I would caution you to avoid.
    GGG said, they will nerf anything that makes fans feel as if it is the only solution to the game, right now MF and ES are those two mechanics. Life is significantly worse than ES and MF makes all builds feel like a waste of time with normal loot drops.

  • @lendial
    @lendial 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +77

    dash so smooth it looks like it came out of a korean mmo

    • @cesarrivera286
      @cesarrivera286 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      I love the Demon dash so much, but I get swarmed with mobs and unable to clip out like the normal roll. Skill issues I guess.

    • @rairairai666
      @rairairai666 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      korean back dash

    • @drastikdreamz
      @drastikdreamz 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Stacking n wackin

  • @MistAssassin69
    @MistAssassin69 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +6

    18:53 Demon Form snapshots your HP and ES it seems, you can take off all your items and youll have the same amount as when you transformed until you go to another zone. I used it in my first build but in another way, equipping a 400 hp chest and then replacing it for a 1700 armor 2.5% hp regen one

  • @flare7202
    @flare7202 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +112

    Crazy how blood mages have to spend health and mana to cast when es builds sit at 6-8x the health pool with no downsides.

    • @Brumak4eva
      @Brumak4eva 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +46

      And Grim Feast is essentially just their ascendancy without the drawback. Bloodmage is dogshit.

    • @calebhuizenga5123
      @calebhuizenga5123 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

      please come back GGG fix your game and nerf all these heretics into the ground

    • @Ashtarte3D
      @Ashtarte3D 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      Blood Mage is so comically stupid it hurts. The first ascendancy point is purely negative as you will have no way to overcome to massive life costs without the leech node. I don't know wtf they were thinking.

    • @btyler24323
      @btyler24323 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      Yes blood mage is weak and underpowered, doesn’t make this an op exploit. Internalist builds are not even top 20 :)

    • @ArawnOfAnnwn
      @ArawnOfAnnwn 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@Brumak4eva Life Remnants grant far more life per pickup than Grim Feast does, getting you to double hp much faster. And there's nothing stopping Bloodmage from running Grim Feast and ES as well, getting both double hp and double ES.

  • @ThanhLai5
    @ThanhLai5 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    I'm also playing this build thanks to Mathil's inspiration. For single target, I combine Essence Drain with Bonestorm. There's a supp gem called Drain Ailments that removes a random ailment to deal 35% more DoT. I put that into Essence Drain. Then I'd use Bonestorm+Lacerate+Ignition to add ailments reliably thanks to high spell dmg bonus from Demon Form. Bonestorm's dmg is also respectable with Demon Form as well.

  • @Noobwater
    @Noobwater 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +28

    holy jiggle physics on the demon dommy mommy lady

    • @Goldmask-lm2sy
      @Goldmask-lm2sy 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      hahaha ENCHANCE ZOOM ENGAGE! dang you are right!

  • @MyNameIsSalo
    @MyNameIsSalo 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    The dash is the only reason I'm still playing this game tbh. I've gone through a few builds but with the extreme amount of backtracking while mapping and often getting stun locked and swarmed I couldn't do much maps until I got bored. Demon form bypasses all this and I genuinely can't see myself playing anything else until GGG fixes mobility or having to backtrack to clear maps. You move atleast x2 faster and it is super responsive at dodging out of the way, and it can change direction mid-dodge so you can go through doorways or go backwards. It's a game changer
    The big downside is the clunkiness of having to reset demon form, if it drops mid-boss fight or breach you're basically fucked. So you need to pay attention. Or alternatively build your stacks up so high that they never drop off inside maps, which is my aim. I'm at 350 stacks atm which is enough for all maps unless it rolls with multiple league mechanics at once
    But honestly worse case scenario you just cap demonflame to 10 stacks and spec into more damage on tree. Yes it'll be much weaker overall but getting that dodge roll is what you're picking demon form for, there's a million other ways to solve damage. lots of highly abusable damage setups right now

  • @Hermes50837
    @Hermes50837 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Hey there, been playing this build (kinda, im hexblast) since launch of EA and i got around mana cost by going PyromanticPact and get +MaxFire Res and LifeRegenerationRate Jewels for anyone wondering where this can go :) Allows for even more ES on the Tree btw.

  • @FunkehChicken
    @FunkehChicken 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +34

    Good to see you jumping on the Demon Form bandwagon Math :)
    FYI there is no benefit going below 200 hp. There was a patch a while back now where they capped the life loss per stack at 1minimum, which equates to the loss at 200 hp, so anything below 200 hp is not going to see any reduction in the life degen per stack.

    • @btyler24323
      @btyler24323 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes everyone already knows this. Being at 201 is worse than 200 though. So

    • @ChillAutos
      @ChillAutos 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

      @@btyler24323I didn’t know that.

    • @IIINEMESESII
      @IIINEMESESII 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@TheFierburn 9:05 dude... but mathil doesnt mention it?? actually pay attention.

    • @FmboyOW
      @FmboyOW 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The degen happens over 30 server ticks, meaning you can have way lower max life than ur stacks, the way my setup is built allows me to sustain stack cap (3k) on way way lower health

    • @patshmear10101
      @patshmear10101 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@FmboyOW is there a guide somewhere for what you are doing?

  • @dangkolache
    @dangkolache 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

    dropping HP and getting flat regen reminds me a lot of the old 55 monk setup from GW2

    • @Phenomatron
      @Phenomatron 30 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      Gotta get them UW ECTOS lol protective spirit HYPE

  • @Vyndetta7
    @Vyndetta7 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +4

    If you want a stronger Essence Drain dot you can use Envenom on your Dark Effigy for the Poison proc. Combine that with Drain Elements on your Essence Drain. It eats the weak Poison proc and gives your Essence Drain a 35% MORE damage increase.

    • @MistAssassin69
      @MistAssassin69 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      You needn't even use a support gem for poison, the dog burns everything near it

    • @Mathilification
      @Mathilification  10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      That was going to be the plan for a 6th link if that ever happens or I suppose I could swap the chain for heavier fights.

    • @razorzagaming
      @razorzagaming 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Also chaotic freeze on Contagion is great.

  • @toletroi333
    @toletroi333 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +34

    0:44 Math saying "demon waifu lady thing" was not on my 2024 bingo card

    • @Haionsodium
      @Haionsodium 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      nearly spat out my water hearing him say that

    • @ersetzbar.
      @ersetzbar. 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      that name is taken now

    • @ThaCousin
      @ThaCousin 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@ersetzbar. 🤣

  • @exquisitecoffee6150
    @exquisitecoffee6150 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +5

    Impending doom on the despair gives some really nice clear when the cursed enemy dies to the dot

    • @moonsy-9733
      @moonsy-9733 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      yep and you can cast a 100% crit hexblast (hourglass + inevitable crit is what I use) to trigger it early.

  • @sonicmarsh232
    @sonicmarsh232 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    I dont know if it is intended or not, but thanks to decaying hex, you can spread your curse with contagion, You can also spread poisons this way. Contagion says it spreads ALL chaos DoTs, apparently that is truly ALL of them. There is an unfortunate weapon swap bug with curses, but you can use both decaying hex and the impending doom explosions together if you dont weapon swap and have exploding packs of enemies with chaos DoTs.

    • @Daydream2142
      @Daydream2142 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Contagion spreads curse even without decaying hex

    • @sonicmarsh232
      @sonicmarsh232 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @Daydream2142 if so that's even better

    • @eshannumin
      @eshannumin 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      This literalrly doesn't work. Hexbloom doesn't spread damage from decaying hex and doesn't spread doomblast. Only thr curse spreads, nothing else.

    • @sonicmarsh232
      @sonicmarsh232 2 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @eshannumin not sure what your setup was, but all the dots/curses were spread by contagion, and before I was using a curse weapon swap the doom blast support was chaining explosions

  • @theholyvessel5736
    @theholyvessel5736 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    The Ten demon flame is good for early on then just spec out of it for the hound when you have regen at something do able.

  • @Arezius
    @Arezius 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    You're choosing exactly the same spec I'm beginning to play after choosing Monk like you, nice :D

    • @waveyzen
      @waveyzen 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      same lol

    • @zombiesnivy
      @zombiesnivy 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      I also did the same after playing monk as well lmao.

  • @Auscheels
    @Auscheels 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Since you have the node that grants 11% more chaos damage, you can put the 'withering touch' support into the spell 'eye of winter' to quickly cap stacks of wither.

  • @ezmercopal5416
    @ezmercopal5416 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +9

    they gotta give demon form some absolutely diabolical MTX
    like a pale angel
    maybe something holy/ innocence coded
    stygian?
    actual beidat skin?
    vaal Demon of atzoatle?

    • @Raiunax
      @Raiunax 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      holy beidat

  • @UnrealityDesigns
    @UnrealityDesigns 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Love your builds man!

  • @flobbingmaster
    @flobbingmaster 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    holy shit the passive tree has a shapeshift spec option, so you can have damage for non demon form, and go back to pure defense when you shift

    • @cranberrysauce61
      @cranberrysauce61 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      so, a couple days ago i did some testing with demon form, and demon form IS NOT effected by the shapeshift spec options, and only the vanilla passive skills. when i was testing, i had increased energy shield passives set to the shapeshift set, but when i turned into the demon form my es didn't change.
      a hot fix might of corrected this without knowing it, but just something to be warry of, as demon form has some issues around it.

  • @ЯрославМиронов-ц2р
    @ЯрославМиронов-ц2р 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Ah mathil, so young and innocent. While the chinese on bilibili stack 2000 spell power buffs he is out there content with 200, real humble man.

  • @deviant324
    @deviant324 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Since you have no supports on demon form right now, if it works like the chayula thing on monk it doesn't seem like any supports that add flat spirit do actually have a cost when used on these ascendancy auras. I have vitality, precision and clarity on my Into The Breach and they do not change my spirit reservation at all, based on tooltips you do actually get their effects though. It's free life and mana regen (precision obv useless on casters)

    • @thehob3836
      @thehob3836 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      You should check that, when I was testing some demon form things it seemed like the spirit cost supports were not applying their effects. Just have your character sheet open and watch your regen numbers when you slot in clarity or vitality to see.

    • @cranberrysauce61
      @cranberrysauce61 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      from what i tested with demon form a couple days ago, adding vitality/clarity to demon form actually increases the casting cost to change into the demon form but doesn't give you the auras from them.
      so with vitality supporting demon form, you will need 20 unreserved spirit to shapeshift into the demon form, but while in demon form, you will lose out of the 20 spirit but not gain the life regen from it.

    • @dshearwf
      @dshearwf 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@thehob3836 it doesnt work on demon form, but it absolutely works with the chayula ascendancy from monk. can have every aura support running for free, but it does seem weird and I think it's going to be changed/fixed.

    • @deviant324
      @deviant324 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ I went to his stream after and some people in chat confirmed it works on Into the Breach (I also double checked afterwards) but for some reason not with demon form.
      It’s either that there’s a mechanical difference between them that makes the difference or one of them is bugged

    • @cranberrysauce61
      @cranberrysauce61 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@deviant324 yeah, i think its like demon form you are turning it on for weapon set 1/2 but then immediately changed to the shapeshift set with a different demon form skill to turn it off and not on.
      while into the beach doesn't change you weapon set. so it is active with the same set you triggered it with.

  • @Macronaso
    @Macronaso 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    wtf I was just levelling up this exact same idea, up to my second ascendancy now. Honestly surprised by how good demon form feels, I thought it would feel a lot more dangerous.

  • @szymond2302
    @szymond2302 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +11

    I didn't know Aaron Paul plays PoE

  • @innocuous526
    @innocuous526 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    had planned to remake my EC/Contagion blood mage build with an infernalist because imo blood mage feels like straight dog to play. Big thing that helped Contagion and essence drain late game was aoe nodes and gems with doom on curses, make mapping feel 10x better since contagion would chain like 4m

  • @mattyryon
    @mattyryon 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Wouldn't spell cascade be better than unleash since it adds area?

  • @Govakhelsborne
    @Govakhelsborne 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Are you immune to bleed and poison with this build? Because normally they ignore energy shield so my assumption would be they would one-shot you unless your regen is just so high that you can ignore them?

    • @abebuckingham8198
      @abebuckingham8198 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

      The regen is likely enough for bleed but I think the reason he has 75% chaos resist is that it needs help with the poisons.

    • @n0l0g1n6
      @n0l0g1n6 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +8

      bleed can only apply if you take damage directly to life so he's immune to it

    • @timproc9355
      @timproc9355 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@abebuckingham8198 think that's because shield takes double damage from chaos also the chest unique has a chunk of chaos resist also

    • @Murks33
      @Murks33 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Bleed and poison can't be inflicted without doing damage to the life pool itself. With how little life he has, any hit that would apply a bleed or poison is probably a hit that kills him anyway regardless.

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ES builds are immune to bleed. The hit damage needs to hit your life pool for a bleed chance to roll, if you don't take hit damage to your life then you cannot bleed.
      Poison is countered by having decent regen + maxed chaos res. Chaos res is mandatory but it is super easy to get with x2 mings heart + ghostwrithe. Those 3 alone can cap it with max rolls

  • @jeffrey778
    @jeffrey778 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    poison is pretty good on dark effigy because it counts as a chaos debuff, which allows the tower to self target. adding plague burst also counts as a choas debuff that spreads. only thing that sucks about dark effigy is it needs a choas debuff to start shooting the one mechanic of the skill i wish ggg would change. i like the idea the more stacks the faster and more it shoots.

  • @AcSlaytah56
    @AcSlaytah56 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    it would be really cool if they changed the demon form stack cap ascension node to a toggle ability that locks you at the current demon form stacks. This would allow players to freely stack to what they are able to deal with.

  • @mfsdmer9665
    @mfsdmer9665 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    How do you survive poison and bleeds that go through the shield?

    • @ReallyNotAGoose
      @ReallyNotAGoose 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      They don't. Poison and bleed are only applied if your life is hit in the first place - so they are never applied on an ES build.

  • @rahc7319
    @rahc7319 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Does Grim Harvest feel bugged for anyone else? The energy shield remnants are there but when I pick them up my ES doesn't change

  • @tiagoandre08
    @tiagoandre08 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What do you do if you take chaos damage? Won't it just go through energy shield and one tap you

    • @ReallyNotAGoose
      @ReallyNotAGoose 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      In PoE2, chaos damage doesn't fully bypass energy shield. It "only" deals double damage against ES instead.
      If you have high ES and chaos resist (which ghostwrite provides) it's very manageable.

  • @DoubleMeatpalace
    @DoubleMeatpalace 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    What do you think about hexblast instead of essence drain?

  • @Gandi2000
    @Gandi2000 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    GGG: we will not nerf this build because it has 2 buttons.

  • @azamantes2025
    @azamantes2025 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    holy mother of.....that dash....i'm in love......

  • @AbsurdRenegade
    @AbsurdRenegade ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    GGG entire identity revolves around BLIZZARD'S DIABLO

  • @elosy_the_thoughtless
    @elosy_the_thoughtless 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I had a huge deja vu at 4:34, feels like i've already seen somewhere a character that needed to ramp with a transformation. I seem to remember there were community complaints about it cause it took to long and didn't feel good. It does not seem to be the case here though.

    • @Psycorde
      @Psycorde 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Last Epoch?

  • @psychobear10
    @psychobear10 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    The one thing i dont like demon form beside all the bugs with it. But its you cant use any mtx on it. It will be cool like they had alt mtx for it later on

  • @Calekoflight
    @Calekoflight 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder if Demon Form works like Into the Breach for Chayula monks. You can put all the spirit supports in there for zero spirit cost.

    • @cranberrysauce61
      @cranberrysauce61 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      sadly it currently doesn't work that way. with vitality and clarity supporting demon from, it makes it so you need 30 unreserved spirit to cast demon form but doesn't give you the effects of vitality/clarity while in demon form.

  • @Lazris59
    @Lazris59 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Big overfight not having demon form degen ES as well. Since it's only HP, it leads to things like tinctures and getting the right amount to never degen more than regen.
    Health having no % scaling but all flat from levels and items is a big problem. ES is good because armor gives flat es and there is ES % on the tree. Major balance issue unless they bring back life nodes.

  • @lordclif6649
    @lordclif6649 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    You can run mask of the stitched demon to get an insane amount of life regen, I am able to sustain up to around 500-600 stacks of demonform with the helmet

    • @Benjignome
      @Benjignome ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      With no ES and a health pool of 2500 with mind over matter. Absolute garbage for mapping vs ES

  • @Bombtrap
    @Bombtrap 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    question: Chaos dmg or Spark?

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      spark seems to have better top end dps. I'm staying with hexblast CoI comet with the infernal flame nodes from infernalist. You hit certain breakpoints in your mana cost vs mana pool and you can proc comet every single hexblast cast and it is super consistent above 100 demonflame stacks. Rare and unique mobs get insta deleted being nuked by comets. It feels like you're playing pre-nerfed CoI builds. It even procs vs magic/normal packs half of the time but everything is already dead because hexblast 1 shots

  • @reyclorox
    @reyclorox 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Oh shit i was just gonna upgrade the demon form build i already had, gotta hurry before the video breaks the market

  • @MyNameIsKeeper
    @MyNameIsKeeper 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I just ascended and got about 33 life regen, and can't sustain demon form at all, at around 25+ stacks i start to degen real bad, at how much life regen does this become more "stable" ?

    • @pon4411
      @pon4411 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Depends on how many stacks you want to sustain.
      100stacks = you need 50% of your max life as regen before it starts degening
      200stacks = you need 100% of your max life as regen before it starts degening
      300stacks = you need 150% of your max life as regen....
      400stacks = you need 200% of your max life.......
      Say your max life is 1000 then you need 500 life regen to get 100stacks, but if you were to have max 300 life, then you only need 150 life regen to get the same 100stacks.
      Hope that somewhat helps

    • @MyNameIsKeeper
      @MyNameIsKeeper ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @pon4411 very much so ty

  • @Dante070890
    @Dante070890 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Ball lightning is fantastic for withher, can get 10 stacks instantly on bosses

  • @ElicatrothTV
    @ElicatrothTV 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    whoever thought putting % ES and % Mana on the tree but a single +20 Life node on the tree is a certified idiot.... how that got thru everyone else at GGG I have no idea. Like, almost everyone on seeing just a small number of passives available knew that Mana stack was going to be insane, and potentially ES too. Wow... we were all right when GGG wasnt? Really wanna know what is going on there sometimes xD

  • @Vashthalas
    @Vashthalas 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Was just about to give this a try after seeing that reddit post talking about the build tech.
    Looks like so much fun compared to Corrupting Cry!

    • @thehob3836
      @thehob3836 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      GL getting any trade responses for those now at a reasonable price. Love Mathil's builds, but man do they hit the market sometimes

  • @b.stankov3356
    @b.stankov3356 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What happens if you go CI?

    • @PSYCH0N4VT
      @PSYCH0N4VT 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      You can't use demon form

    • @b.stankov3356
      @b.stankov3356 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@PSYCH0N4VT Unfortunate.

  • @yikesmcg1371
    @yikesmcg1371 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Been running this build but add a blasphemy + hexblast setup for ST. Smooths out boss fights a lot.

  • @moonsy-9733
    @moonsy-9733 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Wish I could use Demon Form as a Blood Mage lol, but am running the same skills. Solid build.

  • @xanrilteneb7673
    @xanrilteneb7673 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    wait don't ming's hearts give reduced GLOBAL defences? does that not hurt your ES pool as much as I think it should?

  • @marae.o.9759
    @marae.o.9759 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Altered flesh would actually be a good idea because you have so much chaos res it's a bunch of phys mit. it'd mean you can try to just get fire res for some double dipping defence

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      nah it gives 3% max life on the node before it which means less demonflame stacks. You don't want it. It's genuinely better to allocate nothing.

    • @marae.o.9759
      @marae.o.9759 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      If you catalyst the ming's hearts you can make up for it. I know you don't get the other catalyst options but it's still a possibility

  • @williamdutton8461
    @williamdutton8461 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    would ingenuity be decent for this?

    • @aimlessgun
      @aimlessgun 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Probably, you could drop down to 1 Ming's and then use a rare ring with regen and other goodies.

  • @GladiatUnispect
    @GladiatUnispect 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    55hp monk from guild wars 1 vibe, I love it

  • @AnActualDinosaur
    @AnActualDinosaur 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    You can ACTUALLY DODGE shit with it. It feels like the game was balanced around it. Also, Chaotic Freeze on Contagion is INSANE btw. Oh and the "snapshot" tech works with the Mings as well, you can take them off after transforming and still have the reduced life, so you can take them off and add more flat life regen.

  • @TH-dg2mm
    @TH-dg2mm 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah removing all the %life nodes from the tree was definitely a choice...
    I was a 2.7k HP build with really good HP gear... switch to ES, 15k overflow. Seems reasonable.

  • @cashandraven2369
    @cashandraven2369 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yeah, the ES vs Life issue is absolutely nonsese right now, I know it's EA but some things are just in a really bad place for no real reason.

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Whats hilarious is the EXACT same situation happened in PoE1 which is deeply concerning. How did they repeat the same mistake? It is so much worse this time around too as in PoE1 going ES was very expensive and it was awkward to transition into. But in PoE2 it's literality free, people are doing it SSF no problem

  • @danielff3844
    @danielff3844 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    the issue that i currently have with ES in poe2 is that you are bascially required to us grim feast. Without you just cant sustain enough es, especially during acts

  • @Unbelievableone1987
    @Unbelievableone1987 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    All considered ED still needs a hefty buff if you compare it to most other spells.

  • @ErinRinArt
    @ErinRinArt 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    chaos freeze support gem on contagion would be insane tbh

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Not for chaos DoT because DoT can't freeze but it is really good for hexblast setups

  • @MySturmgeist
    @MySturmgeist 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    hey Mathil can you make a really good ES build in poe2

  • @neednot22
    @neednot22 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    well damn, gonna try this on my infernalist because I got 1 already on cruel that I didn't touch again because I just dont enjoy minion playstyle that much. wish me luck

  • @kyletilley5295
    @kyletilley5295 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I cant activate any spirit skills while in demon form.

  • @henrikhogdahl
    @henrikhogdahl 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Demon form had zero love until 0.1.0e. (Levers hell)

  • @maggotthemadman8142
    @maggotthemadman8142 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Good build concept with cutting hp to have flat regen & base health as the same amount. 200 flat regen isn't hard to get.

  • @Reidang
    @Reidang 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    flat regen finally op 😮

  • @cyclogenisis
    @cyclogenisis 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Doesn't it bother you that movement speed in poe2 blows?

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      not with demonform it doesnt

    • @cyclogenisis
      @cyclogenisis 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MyNameIsSalo compared to poe1 its dogshit slow buddy

  • @Thebub44
    @Thebub44 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Absolutely hilarious your melee comments LOL

  • @samspirloff4764
    @samspirloff4764 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Damn, I can't have Buff in my demon form. I have 140 of sprit, no we pond, but I can't activate buffs/aura...

  • @ranielyfire
    @ranielyfire 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    You can get a bunch of cheap red jewels chaos spam until u hit regen and then Vaal in hopes of a resistance roll

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      "cheap"? chaos orbs are 1 to 2 ex. They are very expensive to be rolling jewels with. The jewels might be cheap but rolling them is not

    • @ranielyfire
      @ranielyfire 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ I mean you can try buying already corrupted jewels with res and life regen rate

  • @megatoys7
    @megatoys7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    for those wanting to do this build currentl ming heart is 1 div at the time of posting this comment.... sooo if you dont got that its harder to do the build

  • @jamesalton1903
    @jamesalton1903 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I love the d4 ads I get during this video

  • @PaulaDeensButterDish
    @PaulaDeensButterDish 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    How do you deal with chaos damage? I don't see how 200 hp can take a chaos damage hit/dot

    • @mcgruber
      @mcgruber 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      Because chaos damage does 2x damage to energy shield rather than bypassing it like in poe1.

  • @goddogx21
    @goddogx21 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    E. Hazard playing poe2

  • @mertuygun4825
    @mertuygun4825 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    So we playing Last Epoch Ward patch as early access 😅

  • @meza6958
    @meza6958 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Basically ES sorc from d2 playing with negative res almost like its nothing love it 🎉

  • @mickgamehome
    @mickgamehome 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    add Blackflame to this build for total aesthetic

  • @Schmidteren
    @Schmidteren 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    cries in eva life melee build...

  • @m.h.4907
    @m.h.4907 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Demon Form and Bonestorm is broken on bosses. The damage is ridiculous.

  • @JtotheDoubleL
    @JtotheDoubleL 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Demon form makes a bunch of peoples games crash.

  • @joseluisdossantoscruz1102
    @joseluisdossantoscruz1102 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    This is the only ascendancy that actually feels like and ascendancy. At least the character changes visually, not only background numbers calculations. Unfortunately, the rest of classes ascendancy feels underwhelming, both in numbers, visuals and exclusive skills.

  • @kylebusc3624
    @kylebusc3624 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    +6 to all spell skills would be a lot more enticing if it didnt jack the mana cost through the roof 😂

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      that's why infernalist has a node that removes all mana and instead turns it into damage taken. So you build for mitigating and sustaining damage, which funnily enough also increases your demonflame stacks if you invest into it via regen. Lots of synergy there

  • @calebhuizenga5123
    @calebhuizenga5123 21 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    geez plus 6 to level of all spells during demon form

    • @Akkrima
      @Akkrima 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And loosing all weapon and shield/focus stats... doesn't make up for it

    • @Arcticun
      @Arcticun 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@Akkrima It's close enough in terms of damage, the main drawback is that it's just fucking dull to not care about weapons.

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@Akkrima yes it does. +6 25% cast speed 180% damage is pretty close to what you'd expect from your weapon slots, and thats 10 demonflame stacks or only 10 seconds. These builds can scale to 400-500 stacks, I'm at 350 and nowhere near close to maxed. That's +6 levels, 25% cast speed and 7200% SPELL DAMAGE. What weapon is giving you 7200% spell dam?

  • @yurisavun3776
    @yurisavun3776 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Bleed/poison insta killing this build lol?

  • @dengfixanros
    @dengfixanros 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    ...and they deleted cast on freeze/shock/ignite/critical, ok.

  • @xxphejyaz
    @xxphejyaz 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    hexblast demon form is the best

  • @Porter24-k1h
    @Porter24-k1h 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    How does Demon Form interact with Chaos Innoculation? Anyone testet it?

    • @irlinaka2754
      @irlinaka2754 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ypu go out of form instantly

    • @Forcejuuso
      @Forcejuuso 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Demon form ends at 1 life. Chaos inoculation is 1 life so they dont stack

  • @5daydreams
    @5daydreams 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I literally respecced into ED Contagion yesterday.
    Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck XD
    The Mathil effect will ruin me at last after succesfully dodging it for 4 years XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

  • @Gavinbelson
    @Gavinbelson 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Just fyi anyone trying demonform builds, you dont want lower than 200hp, does nothing.

  • @paragrin8385
    @paragrin8385 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    It is crazy how overtuned es is right now, or undertuned hp is.

    • @danieln.5291
      @danieln.5291 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Bet they'll nerf ES into the ground instead of buffing life :P

  • @CTJM1994
    @CTJM1994 13 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    How does this build manage to deal with chaos damage? Wont chaos damage just bypass your ES and 1 shot you?

    • @shrekthedank1999
      @shrekthedank1999 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Not in poe 2. In poe 2 chaos damage does 2 times damage to es

    • @CTJM1994
      @CTJM1994 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@shrekthedank1999Thanks for that. Didn't know they changed it in poe 2. Cheers.

  • @turdyberry9872
    @turdyberry9872 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Build completely nerfed next patch because of the vid😂

  • @moosecat00
    @moosecat00 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    How to make Essence Drain good, get 3000% spell damage. 👍

    • @MyNameIsSalo
      @MyNameIsSalo 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      at best it makes essence drain usable. Good is an overstatement. Still can't do single target dps

  • @NPCSlayer666
    @NPCSlayer666 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    yes!

  • @ZaeBae22
    @ZaeBae22 24 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Is it just me or are you missing a huge opportunity not going "low life Cheap regen annoint with life regen and huge cast speed node for no investment really

  • @CyberPrimal
    @CyberPrimal 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    When I Player as a melee I must say that they didnt learn anything from poe1. Was this really GGG doing this game? Maybe in 10 years they will figure this melee...who knows...who knows....GL GGG

  • @johnjohnny6702
    @johnjohnny6702 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Demon form so good. Just say that ES is the real reason why it lets you play so janky - (only thing that scales on the whole tree.) 65 map zone and 72 as highest in the video.
    That's pretty disingenious, no?

  • @Forest0119
    @Forest0119 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    how long until they delete this build too?

  • @NoFailer
    @NoFailer 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    What is the point of thousands of ES when reaching 0 life still kills you? Chaos damage must be deadly, right?

    • @boothbytcd6011
      @boothbytcd6011 17 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      A) he has 75% chaos resist and b) chaos doesn't go through ES in PoE2, just does double damage.