Adam Savage's One Day Builds: Drill Press Modification!
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- Adam upgrades his shop's powermatic drill press with a crank to raise and lower the table, but the crank he has isn't made for his particular model drill press. The restoration and install of the crank goes by fast and works out well, but it ends in the unexpected breaking of another part. Adam's plan for an upgrade quickly pivot to a disassembly and repair!
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Use the old drill chuck as a clamp for holding small pieces of material.
Adam, how can I contact you and try to get you to build me something? It would be extremely inexpensive and awesome for a one-day build video.
It might be useful for future people who need to repair this model to put the name and model number of the drill press in the video title. Helps discoverability.
TH-cam University is quite helpful!
@@VorpalGun ,ak,
Hey Team/Adam, can you put the specific model of drill press into the description (or even better, the title)? You said near the beginning that you couldn't find a tear down video of the model on youtube, so now that you've made one you can be the savior of the next person trying to find a tear down!
AMTunLimited, yeah, I was kind of surprised that he didn’t tag this better after complaining about the lack of available coverage. 🤓😅🤷♂️
@@worldsend69 I'm aware he *said* the model in the video, but that doesn't help the next poor so and so who searches "1150a powermatic" into TH-cam
Even if he doesn’t, TH-cam will scrape the auto-generated transcript and will (eventually) index this video with the other powermatic 1150A stuff.
@@KeithDiSarno While true, it will put it lower in the results pretty sure.
Adam, the old chuck can be used as a handle or vise for small round parts. I use one to hold delicate parts as I'm grinding them.
It can be used to hold small parts In a vise or on the bench for painting, etc.
Giving it another 50 years of life. Imagine someone in 50 years, having inherited this drill press, looking for how to repair it, and finding this video.
Simon Honey It's a nice bit of documentation if he sells it too.
I had a strange experience where I forgot how to fix a rare Paintball gun and I googled it and my forum post from years ago (that I forgot I made) came up.
Won't be found. Adam didn't put the name of the drill press in the title or description.
@@andrewbroeker9819 you mean "Adam upgrades his shop's powermatic drill press..."???
Which brings up a whole other weirdness of YT. By then we will look at a video and like it, go to the channel to see what they have made lately and realize they died 12 years ago. 😔
This press has worked like a charm for my projects th-cam.com/users/postUgkxajoEbapTfqWaadnqb04h6U576yxXp-FE . I didn't even secure it to my table top, mainly due to the fact that I was using a 15 lbs drill vise. It's not flimsy at all as to what others have claimed it to be. Make sure the locking nuts and levers are secured and there won't be any issues with light pressure and patience. I was able to drill through aluminum, plastic, and steel (steel took a while) with no problems at all. Yeah it took a little longer than a regular drill press, but I don't have the space OR the money for one.The instruction manual was worthless, but luckily assembling the press was intuitive. However, the manual would be good for ordering replacement parts if needed. There is a nice breakdown of the parts that are included in the kit. Before ordering, make sure it is compatible with your unit, it is clearly stated what models the press is compatible with.This was an excellent purchase for $40!!
The old broken drill chuck would make an awesome modified door handle!
I was thinking that the broken chuck would make a neat sci-fi prop greebley.
I was thinking that the old chuck could be used as rotary bench "vice".
@@joec4266 yep the best thing is to mill a hex of the top fixed part of the chuck. So you can use it for figuring round parts
There's nothing wrong with the chuck.
or shifter handle ball for a muscle car or rat rod. How long had he been using that drill press with the mangle taper? At one point I thought he said it was basically zero runout. It wouldnt have hurt to put a chuck on with a threaded collar and just see what the run out actually was. I mean its not an airplane, its a drill.
Thanks Adam I’m wheelchair bound and bedridden most of the time Videos like yours keep my brain and my inner creativity stimulated I worked creating and fixing things threw out my life unable to do this now is frustrating. But you are a calm to the inner frustration. Thanks in so many ways Big Joe
Can I just say I prefer this to the whole camera crew presenter included over-edited show, like it’s just Adam, a camera and the job at hand
There’s just a satisfaction you get when you’re able to repair your own equipment and learning how to do so. Love it!
That smile after the success is a special sort of smile that anyone who has dreaded a repair and managed it without destroying something will appreciate wholeheartedly.
I dont even have a workshop or any tool to make stuff, but still loving adam fixing his workshop. He has Something which just let you keep watching even if you only understand half of it.
Same, it's oddly therapeutic to watch the process even though I have no shop or tools like this :)
Isn’t it a great feeling when it goes as planned, nice and easy with no hiccups!!
If you get with Abom79 he may be able to help repair the older taper, and maybe the chuck. That man is an amazing machinist
indeed also kieth rucker from vintage machinery
@TheMrSnyder OXTOOLCO is also on the west coast...Same as Adam.
I feel it is long overdue that Adam and This Old Tony do some sort of collab.
Keith Fenner, Turn Wright Machine...
It makes me happy seeing both Kieths being mentioned.
I'm sure someone has mentioned this already. I love that after he oils the quill assembly, and starts to talk about "right to repair", he runs his oily hands through his hair.
"A little dab 'il do ya!"
Yes. Yes I am that old...
@@thomream1888 LOL ... I preferred Californian Poppy back in the day rather than Brylcream. Guess I'm just as old. 👴
I love all one day builds, but I especially love tool repair/mod vids. A tip: Scan your repair manuals, just in case oil or paint or some such gets on them.
Or all the oily rags spontaneously combust, burning your shop down!
Hearing Adam mutter to himself with occasional interjections of 'Oh. OHHH,' is actually very soothing and inspiring just to have on in the background.
I also really appreciate hearing your process for internet research. Never underestimate the 'learning the vocab' part of the process! Google only works as well as your keywords, after all!
Adam, you are my spirit animal! I love your enthusiasm and all around excitement in everything "builder" thank you for YEARS of content and shows.
How to know you're a hoarder:
"I know this is garbage, and I said it garbage, but I'm not going to throw it away right away, I'll put it right there."
Hey I can see all kinds of usage... If all else fails it is a beautiful nozzle for a fake cos play flamethrower 😁 and the spindle itself? Every tool is a 🔨
I have an old Jet 13R Drill press that has similar threads above the taper and they are for a nut that’s only purpose is for removing the chuck. It’s tightened up against the spindle for normal operation and spun the other way to push the chuck off when needed. I imagine the threads have the same purpose on that one. The taper when clean and true should be all that’s needed to lock the chuck on. I scanned some of the comments and didn’t notice anyone mention anything about the threads so I thought I’d let you know. I enjoy your videos. Thank you. Ron
One of my favorite tools is my Franken Drill Press, didn't have the money to afford a Drill Press, so I pieced together one making it my own special creation, I still tinker with the design, even adding a x and y swivel vise to it Monday, and yes once I built it I did geek out saying Frankenstein's classic It's alive. One of my best tool builds so far. Although I be building a Franken Lathe soon.
Hey Adam, great repair! Maybe to make your life living with a keyed chuck a bit easier: I’ve modified the key for my dad’s drillpress, basically putting a nice handle on in. Turns it more into a screwdriver, way easier to use than that smal fiddly key. I did it by cutting a slot in the end of a piece of wood, and pressfitting that over te key, no need to even modify the key itself. And thanks for all the lovely content btw!
19:47 watching the bead of WD-40 roll down the spray tip in fast forward was really satisfying.
Smooth movement.
Smoothment.
very cool to see a guy in his home shop. its amazing all we get done in our small home shops.
An interesting addition to the video would be setting up a dial indicator to check the alignment of the new assembly.
"I make a new one" - mymechanics
Yeees! I make new one.
Was thinking the same thing
Gotta love mymechanics.
The "Avengers Assemble" of youtube restoration vids
Adam and @mymechanics should totally do a collab! That swedish boy could show him some super cool things, and it would really put a positive spotlight on machining in general!
Love me sum Adam Savage ! There are more tinkers than you know out here that love watching others tinker too. Keep it up Bud !
Adam: "Expensive tools are easier to repair"
Apple and other pricey gadget manufacturers: "Must have missed that memo"
Tools, not toys ;)
@@michalsierzchula Poteito potahto. For some they are toys, for some they are tools. They should still be serviceable or fixable if the one who buys them wishes to fix them instead of throwing them away and getting new ones.
Yes, electronic devices should be easily fixable
Yes, to some people these devices are tools
But a phone or laptop is entirely different from a drill press or a mill
Gadgets and electronics =/= power tools. Most power tools don't become obsolete a year after they're bought.
Depends on who you are...they are repairable.
My 1957 craftsman with vari-slo attachment has a morris taper with the screw and collar, works well as a spindle sander and even a small milling application . Old-school is very cool
Oh, and I *think* this has the threaded upper: Techniks 82151-JT33 Keyless Chuck
I absolutely love these shop infrastructure videos! For me there's something really gratifying about performing critical maintenance or repairs. When I eventually get my own shop, I want to get a lot of second hand tools and take the time to repair and restore them before putting them back to work. As Adam's said before, There's nothing like taking something apart and putting it back together to really get an intimate understanding of how it functions. Also, I love how in the slate, you can see the reflection of Adam's phone. I'm honestly surprised they haven't set him up with a few cameras to set up in a few key locations in the shop. I'm sure they have their reasons, and this definitely allows for a more "shoot and go" style, but maybe having a birds eye for time lapses, and one or two "Key Tool cameras." like one by the Lathe/Table Saw and one for the Sanders/Drill press. This was recorded 2 months ago, so who knows, maybe they have by now.
Adam! Keep that keyless chuck and attach it to some sort of fixture so you can use it when filing/working on round stock. Or something along those lines.
I love seeing any old machines getting love! I have an old Delta drill press that I hope to add a VFD to soon. Already had to replace the chuck, whole reason I got it for free! Mobility will forego the VFD because the lack of such annoys me more.
One day builds give me LIFE
Adam, I always enjoyed watching you and Jamie on myth buster. I found myself watching you repair the drill press, even though I don't have this model. Thanks alot, I enjoyed it
Love the one day builds. It's like hanging out in the shop.
32:00 "What am I forgetting?" The "O" Ring!!!
Those toasted keyless chucks are great for holding small parts when you're grinding or sanding.
My pépère taught my dad and they both taught me that you have no business owning a home if you don't have at least some ability and knowledge about how to maintain it. Part of that was learning the workshop which was part machine shop and part wood shop. Again pépère's theory of teaching me to use the tools in the shop was teaching me how to fix them. His thought was that if you get to know how a thing is put together and how to put it back together then you would have a better idea of what it was capable of and how to use it correctly. I think he was right.
If I had a dollar for every time I said, "I'm not going to throw it out right away." :)
I feel that- I have at least 20 angle grinders and 3 mag drills that I will magically have time to fix in the future!!
@@hankbrown3959 hilarious, me too
True. That's when Murphy's Law takes over -- If you don't throw it out, you will never need it; but if you do throw it out, you will need it.
That's why I have a bunch of boxes of recycle this (steel, stainless, brass, copper). I get the 'responsible adult' reward right away, but it is still findable in a month if I discover I need it.
If you had a dollar for every time you said that, you probably could throw it all out and buy new stuff
It's not a piece of garbage! It's not a keyless drill chuck for sure, but it definitely could be a beautiful part of a SciFi style blaster! Keep it for some kind of prop making because it has beautiful potential
A coaxial indicator is not a “wiggler” 😏
I believe that you will find that the threaded ring above the chuck is there to assist in removing the chuck! There was likely a tool that fit in the hole on the side of the ring to give leverage in this operation!
"one of my favorite tools in the shop but it's covered with crap right now" hahahah
Looks like my shop, at least the cluttered ambiance. 😵
Well done Adam!
The spindle that is busted could make a nice Spinning gripper for wood projects or in my lapidary.
always love looking up how to build from scratch and rebuild all the tools i plan to use, since its apart might as well overhaul everything.
trying to make a furnace/refinery for the controlled atmospheric project box.
Watching him put that quill in reminded of our g&l 8” boring mill at shop I used to work at we got our new spindle and it was .00008 oversized and wouldn’t work 15k and 3 more months before it was back up and running
Int tapers are often cut with a specific end mill and/or reamer- specific to the size and type of taper you want to cut. If there is room in the keyless chuck you could just cut it a bit deeper, the recut depth depending on how much "mauling" you have to clean up.
Maybe someone has pointed this out to you but the the threads above the taper are there solely for removing chucks from the taper shaft. If you look at the collar on the replacement rack assembly It has holes on the sides. The ideal is to lower the collar until it touches the chuck. Take a piece of brass round stock and put it in one of the holes and give it a tap with a hammer (clockwise). The chuck should fall off. Don't forget to catch the chuck and never put a new or different chuck on without the collar in place because you will have a most difficult time removing the chuck in the future. Essentially it's there just to break the taper fit.
"I'm not going to throw it out right away" Yea , I know that .
Basically, Adam, as a toolmaker and machinist I always take the approach that I can fix any machine. Manuals or no manuals. This will work 99% of the time because all of the mechanical principles are the same. When you are youtubing next, watch random repair videos. You will soon notice all the similarities. I'm very picky in my own work, I always approach everything with the finesse of a toolmaker. It can be problematic for me sometimes. Where I'm going with that is you will see a lot of different and some times "interesting" ways to get the job done, but its all learning.
On the topic of fixing anything, for the drill chuck, if I had access to the machinery I needed, a cylindrical grinder, I would grind that chuck taper out to the next size, good as new. The old spindle can also probably be repaired with a spray weld and a regrind. Might be worth getting it done for an emergency spare.
They make reamers for the internal Morse taper. and we used to weld up and recut the taper on the spindle.
Nice job Adam. Is so nice to do small little upgrades in the shop
You could put the keyless chuck in the lathe and re-turn the taper to repair it, also, I notice the collar on the back of it, with holes for a C spanner, so you could turn up an adaptor for the back of it that includes a retainer for a threaded lock collar.
That chuck would make the coolest gear shifter knob!!!!!!
Machine some threads into that old chuck and thread something on, could be another taper to use in your lathe, or just a big bolt so it's easier to clamp in a vice.
I've used old chucks to hold brass or aluminum rod when manually filing them into a weird part, or for holding drill bits while sharpening them. Plenty of uses for an old chuck if you completely toss out the idea of using it as a drill chuck.
Was anyone else hoping he was going to say hydromatic? (Grease..) 0:35
I would have thought Adam would be more systematic :)
Just finished watching, love your videos Adam. Thank you
Motorizing would be really easy... Attach a motor on the shaft where the handle is, run wires up to the machine - cut some slots in the sheet metal or plate in the front and add a 3 way rocker switch with return to center by default... spring switch... then you have up / down... You could also add a knob for speed control. That would be cool to see. Although, for soldering, heat the wire and let the solder flow into it. You can use a tiny dab of solder on the iron to help transfer heat - but keep the tip clean and it will transfer fine with it just lightly tinned. I mention this because I've seen your soldering and we can always improve on something; even as masters.
Spindle removal and replacement repair on a powermatic 1150A floor model (for anyone looking for the video Adam had to make since there was not one on TH-cam yet)
If you ever have that kind of problem again with a worn shaft and replacements are not available, go to a crankshaft repair shop where they do metal spraying. They can build up the surface and grind it to whatever tolerance you need.
Hey Adam did you forget to install the spindle o-ring?!?!?
Nope. That is from the old one....I hope
29:28 You can see it when he's putting on the stop collar.
@@LL-tg2sg Yep, it jumps from the tray to the spindle at 28:47.
and he puts in the old o-ring. The "new" one ist the one still laying on the board.
Nice job Adam.
I need to do the same to my drill press table. Sucks having to adjust it by myself with no way to lift it
It's called Kitbashing......I am a modeler and love this Idea.
If ever an old piece of equipment we're suitable for kitbashing, chuckles thing is it.
That is a satisfying repair...
Don't have a replacement for the keyless chuck but know how to repair the spindle/chuck you have. Use lapping past and lap the two parts in to a perfect fit. Only need to make sure the surfaces that are still good mate but don't worry about the galling. After thoroughly cleaning the spindle and chuck, acetone and blow clean with dry clean air. Put several drops of locktight green in the spindle. Test fit with turning to spread, after completely spread on spindle and chuck, press and hold tight the chuck onto the spindle overnight. Both mechanical securing and the locktight green expands in the chuck making an incredibly secure connection. Guaranteed to be not as good as new but closest to it.
I used to be excited about One Day builds, as there was more substance to it, and Adam was really teaching us while going through the process of building things from scratch, which is not the case anymore. I understand that now he is doing all the work by himself, working and thinking about the camera angle, but lately, one day builds were brought down to modification of equipment most people don't have. I am not saying these are not fun videos to watch, but imo, they simply should not be a part of one day build series. I miss videos where we can actually learn how to make something from Adam's enormous knowledge and experience, and his great teaching skills... But hey, that's just me... :)
He is demonstrating his knowledge and experience here perfectly. You should look past that the video is about a drill press and focus on the process. There are many basic mechanical concepts demonstrated here that apply to a wide variety of things like making. This video demonstrates how a rack and pinion gear system works, how set screws work,proper lubrication, importance of manuals, and the concept of organizing your project efficiently. For people who do not have a bunch of experience there is a wealth of things in this video.
Also, without tools - you can't make things. I know so many people who are great creators - yet fail to understand the concept of tool upkeep and proper use and it causes them much frustration when things do not turn out as expected due to tools issues.
Drill presses aren't unobtainable and one of the most affordable and important tools that a maker can buy. Most novice / intermediate makers/hobbyist do not realize the how much easier, safer, and nicer things turn out when using a drill press versus a hand held drill. If you are someone who regularly engages in projects, a drill press and vice will be a revelation in comparison to using a hand held drill. You can buy second hand free standing or bench-top drill presses for very little money - even more-so if you buy one that needs a little maintenance and use this video as a general reference on how they work to assist in the refurbishing.
You should machine the old keyless chuck to mount on your grinder. Just put it on the right side so it doesn’t loosen while using.
Filled my column with rebar and concrete, cheap benchtop press. Sadly none of the mating parts have been machined so I doubt it drills straight but it makes holes. Used to have a boxford union, Great drill.
Adam please consider when using a test indicator to bring a part/tool/fixture into concentricity with a spindle it might not be necessary to spin that indicator with machine power. You are the only person I have seen do that. I don’t understand how you can even read the indicator, except the needle moves or doesn’t move. Is it possible to damage the indicator using it this way? Love your show.
Definitely don't throw out that chuck! I can easily see that being a cool add on to a future prop gun custom build or something of the sort. Unique shape with a bunch of different textures. Very nice.
The past couple weeks I've been rewatching S3/S4 of Mythbusters. This is the first tested video I've watched in a while and.... man Adam looks old. It doesn't seem like it was that long ago, but I guess it was.
Adam, if only for the sake of learning new skills I would have a go at repairing the old spindle. If you consider it junk anyway what have you got to lose? The male taper although gouged up can probably be made good by stoning down the high spots, and for the Chuck, you can get Jacobs taper reamers to clean up the bore. Ok it won’t be perfect, but it might be good enough for a spare or making a dedicated spindle sander. The only way to truly repair to original spec would be to weld build up the male taper and cylindrically grind it back to size. It can be done in the small machine shop with a toolpost grinder on the lathe but is quite an advanced project. There are many videos on TH-cam about shop made ER collet chucks that cover the same Principles. Personally I wouldn’t scrap it though!
I keep hard copies too, but I annotate fasteners with the size tool used to remove/install them. That way if anyone has to do the job again, they know what to grab out of the toolbox before starting.
I wonder if you could use the spiral-cutting feature of your lathe to make a knurl on this new chuck, making it functionally keyless?
It might be able to do much more open spirals than what you used for the giant brass machine scree, as well as make a series of them, as well as make then in the opposite direction, allowing you to make a knurl.
Hey Adam, Röhm makes chucks for JT33 with collar.
Love the new one das builds series regarding tools!!!
Now you just need a chuck key on a lanyard by the spindle. One of those keyless chucks is available on Ebay from a US seller for about $25. I just bought one for my Mill drill.
I was so happy when he told us that he wasnt gonna trow the old chuck away, and i have no idea why xD
With a little cosmetic work, that old, messed-up chuck would make an excellent Stedjim.
What is a Stedjim? It's a medical device, used to diagnose an unconscious patient. It's held about 3" above the unconscious patient, and slowly circled over the patient, while making that noise where you whistle and hum at the same time. After about ten seconds, you turn to your companions and say:
" 's dead, Jim!"
Oh the drill chuck is a handle for the 82' 60' 45' multi flute deburing tools you can hold screwdriver bits and? ya the book with the diagram that shows all the missing parts and accesory's Yaaah! This is getting better and better
You have a lathe. You can repair both the spindle and bore. Vintage machine has lots of manuals.
About 20 minutes into this I realized that I was watching a man repair his drill press with rapt attention. Now I, and anyone else who watched the whole thing, are officially Hank Hill.
See you at the propane convention. They're going to have a seminar about converting your F-150 to run on propane.
I love how you tear into stuff but man oh man would have been nice to see you hit the breaker or show some safety for working on rotating equipment!
I bet you would find it useful to have the old chuck as a specialist vise.
you could maybe jerry-rig the old chuck to hold drill bits that you might want/need to re-dress etc.
You can put the old chuck on a shaft and use it for a grinding, carving or polishing post that you can rotate…
Given there is enough flesh left on the taper it might be reground using something like a tool post grinder (externally with a grinding wheel or with a die grinder) and the precise compound angle for the taper on the lathe. The tapers will intersect a bit higher than before. There are videos how to set precise compound angles using a sine bar and gauge blocks.
From some one that use to write technical manuals. Good manuals are hard to find and also hard to write. Especially for large machines.
Adam you should take all the bits and bops from rebuilding tools, like your waste drill chuck, and make a klyo ren inspired lightsaber hilt.
That was fun! I like the two part nature of this one.
I have the 60's-era version of that drill press (in a bench-top format!) and yeah, the non-cranking table is a giant pain.
Oh, and I have searched and searched for a keyless chuck with the threaded collar. I think I can say with near certainty that it does not exist. I have just recently gone through the quill removal process, too!
Did you check Granger? They have lots of chucks, we used then when setting up new chucks fir our lathes and mills in our classroom shop.
the large o ring is to stop the return shaft from hitting hard on the up return
Adam says “which is one of my favorite tools in my shop” about every tool lol. I would love to see a video of the least favorite tools in the shop! Which ones just really get under your skin.
I like big builds and I cannot lie...
Keep the old chuck! You can make a pinvise out of it. Just weld a block of steel to the back so it can stand on its own or be locked into the bench vise.
Something to consider: with the lateral loads placed on the quill/spindle from use as a sander, if the quill uses ball bearings, replace them with roller bearings perhaps? Maybe more hassle than it's worth but it could be worth looking into.
It should already have roller bearings to deal with the vertical load.
@@devinholland2189 I thought I saw in a parts breakdown that it's specced for Z99R12 ball bearing at the bottom but I could be mistaken.
Now that you are going to a keyed chuck, you might want to add a key holder on the front of the drill press head. This saves you from hunting for the key every time. I prefer a manual clip, but some places use something like a keychain retractor.