You come to any new realizations with Cyrax? Because I don't know that net and throw combo is worth giving up Scorpion, and I'm not convinced by Cyrax's invisibility routes.
When sonicfox the best player can't get his suggested combos in a match it clearly shows that they are inconsistent. Honeybee is absolutely right about scorpion. Ggs to both
This was two friends casually playing MK except the friends are PROs. Also gotta give props to Sonic cause he can play the roster with such competence. Blows my mind
For me it’s not the amount of characters he plays; it’s the flipping tech he finds with characters. I see him posting so much tech on X/Twitter it’s amazing to watch it all. Even if the % is 2-3 difference
He has fundamentals, his neutral, footsies, setplay lack of holes, matchup knowledge and you take that and can use pretty much any character and do 30% combos and win because his fundamentals are better than everyone. He said Rewind, Xombat, Foxy are 1%ers Dragon has amazing fundamentals but has been struggling in MK1 I believe it's because of his strong depression and life problems. But I have always loved Honeybee, he's a good player probably top 5-10% along with Scar, Semij, TekkenMaster, Tweedy, Biohazard(Bees Brother), Lin Kuei Master, K7 Showoff and id say Cossner(is a top 15%er and Reptile main in MK1) There's some pretty good players showing up on Destroyers Champions Of The Realms tournament which is paying more than Majors... YoungMonster beat Dragon with Ashrah vs Ashrah both used Sareena Kameo but Dragon used Light stance mainly and YoungMonster used Dark Stance
These last 2 vids have been amazing with this reptile stuff. This is what makes mk1 so good, same character but 2 different ways of playing him that are both cool and viable.
Love watching you two play. Been watching since Injustice days, so much just plain genuine fun being had between friends here. Even better that it's high level game play.
It's so much fun to watch you two play. You can tell it's just two good friends having fun with a good fighting game. You remind me of me and one of my best friends when we play. Both of you have mad skill and are a pleasure to watch. I hope you post more content like this in the future. I've watched you since MKX, and you still got it man. Your Flash was ridiculous back in the day though.
this was super fun to watch and a great display of both of yall skill. I think yall differ in that sonic employs mix with cyrax, and opts for making his setplay stronger, where as like sonic said, you'd rather rely on fundamentals to get an opening and capitalize with big damage ie. "playing too honest", so its a difference of philosophies I think. Overall what I got from this is both cyrax and scorpion are really good cameos for reptile. Sonic def showed the sauce this set.
True thats why set play is strong cuz it stops neutral. Scorp gives a ton of damage but you will heavily rely on fundamentals, which is harder when faced with pros with best reactions.
Just my opinion but I believe its not as cut and dry as "this kameo is best" I think comfortability and playstyle is a big decider here, both make valid points, both have their place. That being said, thoroughly enjoyed the set thanks for uploading
For me as am seeing things i dont think sonic is using cyrax for damage combos i think he is using him like a setup kameo or a kameo to lure you in so that u can get punished he knows cyrax doesn't do damage like scorpion the game isn't about damage i think thats why sonic is so different from other players maybe am wrong wat your options
I agree. Sonic is looking for easy confirms. The mind blowing PRO level insight he shared was how he can chip you out with Cyrax to win a game. He knows how to win a tournament. It's not about being good at a game for him. It's about being the best and better than others for him.
@@Sought23 The cheeky stuff is harder to pull off than just running scorp though. I get sonic isnt a reptile main but he was dropping the throw kameo more than half the time. at which point all that its offering you is worse invis setups and some corner shenanigans that youre not going to use because youd rather be invis with someone in the corner. Scorp is still the better choice
@@Mad_Snacks yeah, i was reflecting on the mentality part of the comment as a whole, not specifically this situation. Although with a lot of practice for the timings, cyrax might be better in the long run imo. This set just shows that HB has more experience with Reptile. Wouldn't be surprised if Sonic just randomly pulled his Reptile out of nowhere in a tournament lol.
Honeybee is right. Scorpion and tremor are the best cameos for reptile. He has proven it with all his videos and combos. But sonicfox being such a great player makes anything look viable. The fact he can mirror match ppl using their mains and still win the majority is amazing. He has done with against kombat using Johnny. Against koisy using sindel. Plus many others is previous mk and injustice games. But just cause he is a better player and wins more matches doesn’t mean he is right about cyrax being a better cameo for reptile.
Exactly sir. Best comment here. Sonic is just the best MK player of all time so he has the ability to beat almost anyone with their own character. But Honeybee is right. Tremor and Scorpion give Reptile more utility than Cyrax does. Basically here is what happened here: Pro Player + Reptile + Best Cameo =< Greatest MK Player + Reptile + Solid Cameo So even though Sonic’s cameo choice is slightly weaker than Honeybee’s, he makes up for it with his fundamentals as a player (which again, are arguably the best in the game)
@@firedragon_ck4509utility? Have you seen how easily honeybee gets washed in online tournaments with rep+scorp? Scorpion main draw with reptile is the combo extension,that scorp overhead won't catch other top players easily,and the spear evade just takes reptile full screen to be zoned out. Honeybee landed that 40+ combo like twice the whole video. Sonic on the other hand landed that 27+ damage very consistently,along with getting extra throw damage,net to beat out force ball/projectile and good OKI. Oh well
What SonicFox have you been watching? I’ve never seen him be rude and aggressive to someone who didn’t disrespect him first. Definitely never seen him not give respect to someone who respected him
@@blazaybla22 sonic fox is notorious for being toxic. That's the brunt of his reputation it's who he is. If you look up on Google "sonic fox toxic" it's filled to the brim with instances and reddit posts of people talking about how toxic he is. I'm not accusing him. It's just how people describe him. If you do the same thing with a the average random pro player like punk, Deigo or others the same results don't come up.
As I said before, Reptile does NOT need any buffs, and he's NOT boring. As for the Kameos, yes Sonic does have a good point, HB plays Reptile/Scorpion too honest. HB should at least try Cyrax or even Stryker with Reptile.
Do you even watch his vids? I’ve been seen him play a ton of reptile/cyrax and he has a whole section in his “how to” for reptile that goes over Stryker
Hahaha where are all of you nuthuggers that were saying that honeybees reptile would body sonic fox's? Eating humble pie I bet. This just proves that sonic has the better reptile and fundamentals > flashy combos
That not how it works though, being the better player doesn’t automatically mean better with the character. Thats why honeybee said fox is the better player at the end while fox said he doesn’t have the better reptile. Cause what fox won with was fundamentals that aren’t necessarily specific to reptile or any specific character, but just being a godlike MK player in general. Like I could show off little to no tech for a character but beat them in a match with way better fundamentals, that would make me the better player but not necessarily the better player of the character. They both recognised that in this stream so if you disagree you are disagreeing with honeybee and sonic
Literally no one said honeybee would body fox, It was all you sonic fan girls saying the opposite, And judging by your comment You was one of ‘em, calm down
@@dundalis yeah he is better troll, simply because SonicFox not even playing Reptile for a week. he is using it on and off, without focusing too much. He is just trolling with him, and beating you with a character you play from the moment the comes out, it's embarrassing.
Damn! He actually does make cyrax seem super viable. I think scorpion still might be better situationally. If the throw combos worked better with cyrax id say he’s just as good as scorp but the inconsistency would have me give the edge to scorpion
Hope you guys enjoyed the vid! I'm currently live on twitch practicing some Reptile/Cyrax! Come through at twitch.tv/honeybeecommandeur
Good Gaming Honeybee!
GGS Honeybee!!! Get some games with Rewind!! XD. Need some Reiko Reptile action lmao
You come to any new realizations with Cyrax? Because I don't know that net and throw combo is worth giving up Scorpion, and I'm not convinced by Cyrax's invisibility routes.
When sonicfox the best player can't get his suggested combos in a match it clearly shows that they are inconsistent. Honeybee is absolutely right about scorpion. Ggs to both
And mad respect to honeybee for always playing his fav characters not top tiers. Love u for that
This was two friends casually playing MK except the friends are PROs.
Also gotta give props to Sonic cause he can play the roster with such competence. Blows my mind
For me it’s not the amount of characters he plays; it’s the flipping tech he finds with characters. I see him posting so much tech on X/Twitter it’s amazing to watch it all. Even if the % is 2-3 difference
@@paulmestrejr5904Are X with the black background and Twitterly with blue bird graphic the same thing?
He has fundamentals, his neutral, footsies, setplay lack of holes, matchup knowledge and you take that and can use pretty much any character and do 30% combos and win because his fundamentals are better than everyone.
He said Rewind, Xombat, Foxy are 1%ers Dragon has amazing fundamentals but has been struggling in MK1 I believe it's because of his strong depression and life problems.
But I have always loved Honeybee, he's a good player probably top 5-10% along with Scar, Semij, TekkenMaster, Tweedy, Biohazard(Bees Brother), Lin Kuei Master, K7 Showoff and id say Cossner(is a top 15%er and Reptile main in MK1)
There's some pretty good players showing up on Destroyers Champions Of The Realms tournament which is paying more than Majors...
YoungMonster beat Dragon with Ashrah vs Ashrah both used Sareena Kameo but Dragon used Light stance mainly and YoungMonster used Dark Stance
@@paulmestrejr5904he needs to start a threads account and get rid of twitter, that platforms full of conspiracy theorists whackos 😂
@@CameronDC-Grimeswhat’s up with dragon
Its hilarious that people don't know Bee and Sonic really good friends lol. Their is no beef! 😂. All in good fun❤.
Bee punched sonic in the fact at the summit they not friends
Face
@jallenharris3268 no he did not talked to honeybee about it
It's just cause bee for some reason always sounds condescending when he's talking about sonic
@@jallenharris3268stop cappin
This is how I wish the rest of the fight community was in mk online. This is wholesome and competitive AF.
I’m sorry but can we all just appreciate this moment😭🔥28:52 bee is literally going in
That was sick
Goin stupid
How did he do that
@@lamontbeverly7374 and make it look so simple sheesh.
Does that combo still work? I just did it and it did about 80 damage less
200% positive this is THE GREATEST set of ALL TIME😂😂
Ppl were expecting beef but this was actually really wholesome
You know what makes Sonic so good. He learns the other persons style and adapts so fast. Defends and then changes tactics.
It's his fundamentals over all but reaction time, pattern recognition/reads and set ups
If they measured IQ for fighting video games he’d get like 180.
My favorite part about this is that Sonic wasn't even ready for this😂
And still won easily lol
I’m mean it really isn’t that surprising. Finding optimal Kameo setups isn’t nearly as important as simply being the best MK player of all time
@@Trip3krazywho cares bruh they just two friends balling out
Bro stop crying
@@Trip3krazy no one’s crying 😭
WAY TO GO BEE! Been watching you since I started playing as Reptile about a month ago. Can't believe how good you make him look. Beating Sonic? Wow
This is what we wanted to see. Thank you guys for the fan service
I love that much respect Sonic has for Hbee
The back n forth banter was too funny 😂😂
These last 2 vids have been amazing with this reptile stuff. This is what makes mk1 so good, same character but 2 different ways of playing him that are both cool and viable.
Love watching you two play. Been watching since Injustice days, so much just plain genuine fun being had between friends here. Even better that it's high level game play.
It's so much fun to watch you two play. You can tell it's just two good friends having fun with a good fighting game. You remind me of me and one of my best friends when we play. Both of you have mad skill and are a pleasure to watch. I hope you post more content like this in the future. I've watched you since MKX, and you still got it man. Your Flash was ridiculous back in the day though.
This was halriously entertaining 💀😭❤️
Definitely agree this is 200% the best, in the 200% series. Phenomenal games.
Just two straight men, running some matches in a manly brutal game like mortal kombat
It's an honor watching you guys play Reptile ❤❤❤❤❤
Okay, this was fun to watch and it only goes to show how much more I want to learn!
Can we all agree that honeybee looks like Jordan Li from Gen V. #bars
I was about to say the same thing😂
omg yess
Omg i have never seen that. Great comparism
The sample of these 2 titans on how to play, with the fun factor activated at 200% Greetings from Honduras!
Been watching these guys since mkx for those of you don’t know and just joining the mk universe these guys are legends. 🏆
Honey using that Scorp to escape to safety more than I have ever seen him use.
These two mighty reptile's shall battle for Territory
That 473.18 was MAD!!!!! dude
Great upload.. a TON of Tech for every Reptile player if they are not sleeping at the wheel. Thx Honeybee!
This was professionally, just two pros doing their shit.. Ggs
the reaction to sonic saying its his day 1 reptile lmfao
This was awesome to watch especially as a fellow Reptile player. Good shiz dudes!!!!
That’s it.. I’m switching back to reptile and practicing until I turn green.. you’re very inspiring
this was super fun to watch and a great display of both of yall skill. I think yall differ in that sonic employs mix with cyrax, and opts for making his setplay stronger, where as like sonic said, you'd rather rely on fundamentals to get an opening and capitalize with big damage ie. "playing too honest", so its a difference of philosophies I think. Overall what I got from this is both cyrax and scorpion are really good cameos for reptile. Sonic def showed the sauce this set.
💯💯💯 well said
I’ve been waiting for this for so long. Thanks for the show. You guys are the best!
True thats why set play is strong cuz it stops neutral. Scorp gives a ton of damage but you will heavily rely on fundamentals, which is harder when faced with pros with best reactions.
i am 200% sure this video is going to be fire
😂This got to be most fun MK1 mirror match so far, kudos to both players
Just my opinion but I believe its not as cut and dry as "this kameo is best" I think comfortability and playstyle is a big decider here, both make valid points, both have their place. That being said, thoroughly enjoyed the set thanks for uploading
Hey honeybee I’m curious how come you don’t go for the 50% combo often?
This is what we all wanted Lol😂
Tbh Cyrax and scorpion both r really good cameos for Reptile
Im 200% sure that is the best video on that channel!
It's clear how much utility Scorpion adds as an assist that can't be understated or ignored. It's not all about flashy combo set ups.
35:07 does Sonic not know the air 233 string?
Lmaooo sonic tried to claim day 1 and honeybee had the receipts
I give it up to HoneyBee for being a great sport and laughing at it. And knowing what the haters were going to say.
They're very predictable 😂
12:29 🤣
Honeybee: Scorpion best kameo?
Sonicfox: *immediately silent*
This man Bee dead serious, thought he was going to come out on top because the mirror lol reality check.
The pain in his eyes lol
So fun and skill! thank you guys!
Nice to see the man having big fun of game
This video confirms 2 things:
1. Sonic is still the GOAT.
2. Scorpion is still a Better Kameo for Reptile!
“Cyrax can’t do that” 😂
That 4 force balls was nice bee.
ahhhHhH this set gives me injustice vibes!!!! great memories 💯
You finally did the mirror match !! 😆
Hella fun to watch!!🤙
10:09 the way they said no we will mash XD
I just love how he got better as the sets went on you could really see him lock in like game 5
Reptile : Its good to be free!
SonicFox : What you say to me?
(@20:52 , bruh pls XDDD)
For me as am seeing things i dont think sonic is using cyrax for damage combos i think he is using him like a setup kameo or a kameo to lure you in so that u can get punished he knows cyrax doesn't do damage like scorpion the game isn't about damage i think thats why sonic is so different from other players maybe am wrong wat your options
exactly. i would rather get 2x 28% from some cheeky stuff, then 1x 40% from something that's harder to pull of.
I agree. Sonic is looking for easy confirms. The mind blowing PRO level insight he shared was how he can chip you out with Cyrax to win a game. He knows how to win a tournament. It's not about being good at a game for him. It's about being the best and better than others for him.
Set play>combo damage
@@Sought23 The cheeky stuff is harder to pull off than just running scorp though. I get sonic isnt a reptile main but he was dropping the throw kameo more than half the time. at which point all that its offering you is worse invis setups and some corner shenanigans that youre not going to use because youd rather be invis with someone in the corner. Scorp is still the better choice
@@Mad_Snacks yeah, i was reflecting on the mentality part of the comment as a whole, not specifically this situation. Although with a lot of practice for the timings, cyrax might be better in the long run imo. This set just shows that HB has more experience with Reptile. Wouldn't be surprised if Sonic just randomly pulled his Reptile out of nowhere in a tournament lol.
YAAAAAAS! KINGZ!🤜🏽🤛🏽
Is that a new headset? I can hear your controller a lot. Unless that’s sonic. 🤔
@29:03 - 47%. Sweet combo!
theory: this 'beef' is just an elaborate plot for sonic and honeybee to make vids on and collab and share viewers
Honeybee is right. Scorpion and tremor are the best cameos for reptile. He has proven it with all his videos and combos.
But sonicfox being such a great player makes anything look viable. The fact he can mirror match ppl using their mains and still win the majority is amazing. He has done with against kombat using Johnny. Against koisy using sindel. Plus many others is previous mk and injustice games.
But just cause he is a better player and wins more matches doesn’t mean he is right about cyrax being a better cameo for reptile.
Exactly sir. Best comment here. Sonic is just the best MK player of all time so he has the ability to beat almost anyone with their own character. But Honeybee is right. Tremor and Scorpion give Reptile more utility than Cyrax does.
Basically here is what happened here:
Pro Player + Reptile + Best Cameo =< Greatest MK Player + Reptile + Solid Cameo
So even though Sonic’s cameo choice is slightly weaker than Honeybee’s, he makes up for it with his fundamentals as a player (which again, are arguably the best in the game)
@@firedragon_ck4509utility?
Have you seen how easily honeybee gets washed in online tournaments with rep+scorp?
Scorpion main draw with reptile is the combo extension,that scorp overhead won't catch other top players easily,and the spear evade just takes reptile full screen to be zoned out.
Honeybee landed that 40+ combo like twice the whole video.
Sonic on the other hand landed that 27+ damage very consistently,along with getting extra throw damage,net to beat out force ball/projectile and good OKI.
Oh well
I m 200% convinced now that honeybee is the best kameo for reptile😂😂😂😂😂
one of the best mirror match ups of mk1. great showcase of both kameos and of course, which one is the best 😉
Its nice yo see somic fox talk to a friend and see what hes like when hes not being really rude and aggressive
What SonicFox have you been watching? I’ve never seen him be rude and aggressive to someone who didn’t disrespect him first. Definitely never seen him not give respect to someone who respected him
@@blazaybla22 sonic fox is notorious for being toxic. That's the brunt of his reputation it's who he is. If you look up on Google "sonic fox toxic" it's filled to the brim with instances and reddit posts of people talking about how toxic he is. I'm not accusing him. It's just how people describe him. If you do the same thing with a the average random pro player like punk, Deigo or others the same results don't come up.
@@blazaybla22 obviously I've never met the guy but that's how he's viewed and that's a fact
Even in Poland we all wait for this fight (me and my homies) sonic is soo positive guy
Good set, my first time watching the whole thing,
lmfao this was a quality set. nice work bois.
THIS WAS THE VIDEO WE NEEDED
When you use Cyrax, Reptile is the kameo
That was fun. I think cyrax is a slightly better cameo for reptile but that was not a deciding factor.
Both of my favorite gamers here💯🔥love ya bee~Kay
Just a 2 competitive guys going at it ... last vid was funny AF and that thumbnail lol
The beginning of match two 🤯😳
the score is settle. this was a great video
At 4:23 if sonic used ACID SPIT it would have anti aired and he coukd have comboed off it with 2 3! If sonic or honeybee sees this lab that!
I agree, Sonic won not because cyrax is good but because he is just a good player 😂
Overall an excellent result. The game was equal and HoneyBee's level was the same as Sonic's on the Reptile.
28:52 SICK AS HELLLLLL
So that settles it. Scorp is the best cameo
11-7
I ain’t gonna lie hearing him laugh every time I messed up would have triggered me 😂😂
This arc conclusion was comedy
2 great players 💯💯💯
Thanks for this. Love it 💯
I might be more convinced now lol
This shit was great lol
Why is there such a high ping between you two? Don't you both live quite close to each other and play on Eastern servers?
I think Sonic lives on the west coast now
What’s with this no mashing during fatal blow business? What does that even do?
Yo the mirror force ball hype af 😂
What tf does mashing do in fatal?
This was super funny thank you honeybee and sonic 😂
Does mashing during fatal blow add damage?
yeah
As I said before, Reptile does NOT need any buffs, and he's NOT boring. As for the Kameos, yes Sonic does have a good point, HB plays Reptile/Scorpion too honest. HB should at least try Cyrax or even Stryker with Reptile.
Do you even watch his vids? I’ve been seen him play a ton of reptile/cyrax and he has a whole section in his “how to” for reptile that goes over Stryker
@@Ender8419 I ask you the same question
Thats why Ive been losing with reptile all that time. I should just have used top tier cyrex stuff
Hahaha where are all of you nuthuggers that were saying that honeybees reptile would body sonic fox's? Eating humble pie I bet. This just proves that sonic has the better reptile and fundamentals > flashy combos
Easily
That not how it works though, being the better player doesn’t automatically mean better with the character. Thats why honeybee said fox is the better player at the end while fox said he doesn’t have the better reptile. Cause what fox won with was fundamentals that aren’t necessarily specific to reptile or any specific character, but just being a godlike MK player in general.
Like I could show off little to no tech for a character but beat them in a match with way better fundamentals, that would make me the better player but not necessarily the better player of the character. They both recognised that in this stream so if you disagree you are disagreeing with honeybee and sonic
Literally no one said honeybee would body fox, It was all you sonic fan girls saying the opposite, And judging by your comment You was one of ‘em, calm down
@@dundalis yeah he is better troll, simply because SonicFox not even playing Reptile for a week. he is using it on and off, without focusing too much. He is just trolling with him, and beating you with a character you play from the moment the comes out, it's embarrassing.
Match of the year
that intro 😂
Damn! He actually does make cyrax seem super viable. I think scorpion still might be better situationally. If the throw combos worked better with cyrax id say he’s just as good as scorp but the inconsistency would have me give the edge to scorpion
Scorp is for damage. Gonna rely alot on fundamentals. Cyrax is conversion and zoning.
GREAT Set!!! always competitively fun when yall play against eachother i can tell yall always wanna beat eachother lol 💯🥂🦎🦎🦎
I'm gonna have to say scorpion is the better cameo but sonic fox has the better base fundamentals.