CANON RF 135 f1.8L IS REVIEW: BETTER Than Canon RF 85 f1.2?! (vs. Sony 135 f1.8)
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This is a REVIEW of the Canon RF 135mm f1.8 IS. I also compare it to Sony’s 135mm f1.8 which was my favorite Sony G Master Lens. Regardless of which system you have, this is one focal length that EVERY SINGLE PRO must have in their bag. These lenses are some of the best that Canon and Sony make.
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Especially in Black and White 😂
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I could somewhat justify spending on my RF 50 1.2 as I got it used for under $2000 and I can use it throughout an entire wedding. However $2000 for a 135mm which I might not always be able to use due to needing more room to work with just doesn’t seem like money as well spent.
I still have the 135F2 which I use all the time, so until it kicks the bed, I shall carry on with it.
135mm is the third most used focal length in the fashion industry as well as portraiture and one of the top 5 most used focal lengths for events, journalism, weddings, sports, motorsports and much more.
@@nogerboher5266 I’m not saying it’s not a useful focal length. I use it all the time when I can. However sometimes I just don’t have room to make use of it, so upgrading over my 135F2 doesn’t seem worth it.
If you aren't making money from it. EF135L is more than enough. The pricing for RF135L is same as Sony 135GM
I love 85mm f1.4 from Sigma and 135mm f1.8 GM from Sony for street photography, I love the 135mm f1.8 for shooting during the day and the other for the night, both are a great couple, I bought the 50mm 1.2 GM from Sony before the 85mm and it did not give the results I was expecting according what I like to do (street photography including people for portraits), 85mm and 135mm just give me the distance and deep the field I need and more important consistent results for focusing moving subjects
The EF 135mm is my favorite lens and is always on my camera. I preordered the RF version the first day it was announced without hesitation! As a prime shooter, I use the 135mm as my telephoto on wedding days instead of the 70-200.
That’s awesome! I preordered the RF as well. I plan on using as a telephoto on weddings and for outdoor portraits. I have never owned a 135 mm. I was alway in the fens about the EF version. Now I am patients waiting on Canon to release the RF 35mm.
I also use 70-200 RF 2.8 for reach during weddings. Placing my order for the 135 today. I called Canon and they said expect the lens to ship in Jan.
I believe sports photographers take the lens hood off so that they can get the front objective closer to the netting, which reduces the netting's visibility in, or impact, to the photo.
Precisely
Jared, I love your content. I have loved my Canon EF 135 f/2.0 for years using it on my 5DMk3 and 4. I now use it on my Canon R5 and it's even better. Could you please do a video with a head to head comparison of both the EF 135 f/2.0 and the RF 135 f/1.8 and show the differences? I would love to save up for the RF 135 but if it's not a huge difference, I will pass and put that money on other gear or travel.
Thanks!
Dream lens, I’ve been loving the compression on my old EF 135mm f2 and to my surprise it can do so much more than portraits
Amen, brother. I use my 135/2 for many other things - dance, singers, school graduation, and just to show the beauty and character of a face. For those, it's absolute magic.
@@AnandaGarden agreed. I shot an entire NHL calendar with one a few years back.
@@AndrewCCM Ha-ha, THAT made me smile, how wonderful! Shh, don't tell anybody, let's keep the used market where it is. :)
On my list to get for sure since I have the EF version. But love this line, "That's what the point of having fast glass is... separate you from your money" 😆
Already have the RF 85 f1.2 and RF 70-200 f2.8, so, I a gonna skip it. Yes, they do look a bit different but not worth lugging so much extra gear around on an actual shooting day... Having too much with you can become a downside quickly... I am sure one day I will buy this one though, if for nothing else, for fun!
You can use 85mm f 1.2 in crop mode, and get 135mm f 1.9...two great portrait lens in one )))
Can’t wait to pick mine up in a couple of weeks hopefully!!!
Raw talk being back/ new cameras and lenses galore, It feels like back in the day early 2010’s when I’d check fros channel everyday and doesn’t disappoint, #getStephenonmorecontent tho ❤ you guys pair too well together
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Sad about Phillies. But, hey, didn't think they would get that far THIS YEAR. Next year will be awesome!
Especially since I went to Allen's yesterday and am #2 on the list for the R6 24-105 f/4 package!
Happy birthday to me!
I got my hands on the 135 today, and I definitely like it more than 85. It looks so good!!!
In my opinion 135 better for portrait too.
Just ordered the Sony 135mm for my collection. Jared strikes again and my lens collection grows haha
Jared if obliterating the background is your goal with portraits the 135mm is the better choice. It actually gives you a shallower depth of field then the 85mm when they're wide open.
Always love your vids BTW.
Been waiting for the RF 135 for a long time! The EF was one of my favourites, but sold it when I moved to R5's
Here in Australia the GM lens is AUD$1500 cheaper than the 135L so would make it hard to justify if you were picking a system.
i placed my order about a week ago, cannot wait to get it, because i absolutely love the EF version.
Great video. Commanders ripped out the Eagles hearts too!
Jared have you shot much video with the RF 135 1.8 yet? The Sony 135 1.8 is my favorite lens ever and leaving it behind was the reason I hesitated returning to Canon. I shoot a 50/50 mix of images and video, mostly in low light. I've been using the R3 for 11 months now and love it. IS was the only thing missing from the Sony 135. I'm stoked that the Canon looks like its sharp wide open, but would also love to see some low light action video shot on it too. Not that it matters I guess really - I put in a pre order the day it was announced! Cheers.
HEY!
The 100-500 serves its purpose. Not for everything, and definately not for indoors long range situations, that f7.1 is going to kill much of your photo's quality, no matter what camera you have.
I use the 100-500 for the few sports events I have, but will invest in a 135 f1.8 to have more variety in my selections.
re 'Taking off one's lens hood so as to not getting in the way " ........but how about really BIG HAIR !!! LOL
I just got the 50mm 1.2. I think I will have to try out the RF 135 f1.8L next
I can't get on the prime ride. I need to be able to zoom - but the images look excellent.
Thank you for excellent review👍🙏
I already have rf 28-70 f2L.Which one for best portrait work (best combo)rf 100 f2.8,rf 85 f1.2 or rf 135 f1.8?
Was one of your shots of Poot from The Wire? Looks just like him but i feel like u woulda called it out.
What is the World Series???
Thanks again Jared! I was wondering if you were able to test the lens on another camera such as an r5. I hope it can autofocus with this lens as the r6 II did.
4:15 you make the good (if obvious) point that no-one considering the Canon 135 can even consider the Sony 135 (and vice versa) so why aren't you comparing to the EF 135/2?
Hi Jared, which rf lens would you recommend for portraits/fashion photography (full body shots)? I appreciate it!!!
Also Jared... maybe check out the Canon CN-E 135mm T2.2 L F Cinema Prime Lens (EF Mount). Is it worth it? Thanks.
Unfortunately it costs 700 Dollars more in Europe... lol. 2.699€ - 2.793,75$ 😵
Take my money 😂😂😂😂😂 I want both and hopefully the customers will need both👍🏿🇯🇲
Nice! So happy that Samyang exists though!
I would consider myself a videographer, I do shoot photography a lot!
Should I get the 70-200 2.8 or the 135 1.8? If you had to pick one.
It probably depends on what you’ll use it for. If you have the luxury of time to compose your shot…135 all the way. If you’re running and gunning, 70-200 2.8 is probably the way to go.
How can i switch AF point to eye tracking that way? R6 in my hands
I need this! I have the 85 1.2 already. I wanted to save for used super white tho lol.
Need to get this puppy on my R7... 😮
This vs ef 135 is the real comparison. Nice video and lens though
I've got to hand it to Canon. Their lenses have always competed with Nikon's look from their top glass.
Let’s go Astros!!!!
Jared the first. No one else posted yet
As an automotive photographer, I'm honestly just waiting on the RF 35mm L
Yea a 35 1.2 would be amazing.
haha I thought I saw you on the field lol
The vignetting is very visible at 1.8
R7 with this lens?
Who needs those monsters? M6ii with Sigma 56 1.4 better quality, quarter the size price and weight. The sensors become much better so there is no justification for those FF dinosaurs.
"Shoot RAW first, ask photoshop questions later"
Skittles !!!!
True,
Why can’t a semi-pro use one?
9 blades.... 11 blades... maybe shoot at 1.8 ???
wtf AF is he using. I have the R5 and I swear that isn’t on mine. What setting do I need to use, see how his retinal goes to the multi point, then I sees the subject, and goes after it, mine. only auto focus I see on mine is the first option, after that you have to manually put it on the thing you want to focus on. and it says af unavailable in this setting.
HELP!
He's using the R6II, so different AF system.
This is only available in R3 & R6 II but the R5 has a “hidden” mode you can enable that gets it close enough. Go into magenta AF menu #5 and select “Initial Servo AF Point for :)” and choose one of the first two options. That will then let you start out with a focus box to tell it where to start and then switch to Eye/Face AF automatically when face is detected. IMO this should have been default instead of “Auto” on the R5/R6
@@stepheneckert4006 Thank you Stephen. ( In Fro Voice)
7:20 what, you think a 100-500 isn't pro glass??? lol! I've been shooting 70-200/2.8+two TC's since like 1996 and the current 100-500 is every bit as pro. The 100-500 has a maximum aperture (not f-stop, I mean the entrance pupil here) of 70mm, more or less the same as the 135/1.8 with a nominal 75mm. So, the bokeh will be nearly the same amount, albeit in a more telephoto shot. The pro 100-500 user might just be 50% farther from the subject, have slightly less bokeh but be able to be substantially more selective about the background and thus get a FUNCTIONALLY equivalent shot. In other words any actual use you put the 135/1.8 shot to you could take a 100-500 shot that would meet the same goals about as well. Really, when you say stuff like this, I wonder whether you're even a photographer or just have an expensive hobby that you don't really understand completely.
All I know is that when I fill the frame with my 135 at f/1.8, the bokeh is creamier than filling the frame with my 100-400 at f/5.6 at 400mm.
Real world it’s a unicorn at this point non anywhere canon dropped the ball
The new canon RF L glass all look so plasticky and cheap to be honest. The premium plastic composite on other brands looks better (Sony, Panasonic)
It is only better, if you like bokeh. Otherwise the 70-200 f/4 will do the job.
Personally I hate bokeh. I do not want to have 80 percent of my image blurry. I only use a lens wide open, if I do not have enough leight to stop down. So during daylight I would not use f/1.8 anyway. I would buy that lens for handheld night shots. f/1.8 combined with eight stops of IS are great.
I have to agree. Too much bokeh / narrow depth of field chasing. It's hard enough getting enough things in focus at that focal length without pushing the aperture even more. Then you end up with a portrait like at 18:15 when only one person is in focus. That photo would have been much better with a wider deeper of field at aperture 4 or 5.6.
Yeah, that's a big no, no... The 135mm Zeiss Batis and the 135mm Sony GM are by far the best two modern day 135mm lenses you can buy across all systems. Putting aside idiotic things like pixel peeping shortcomings, corner sharpness or autofocus performance, the 135mm GM and Batis produce objectively the best looking images out of any modern autofocus 135mm lens ever made. (And the best 135mm lenses I have ever shot with, are the 1998 Leica APO Telyt 135mm and the 2012 Zeiss APO Sonnar 135mm. Unbeatable image quality out of these two lenses. Probably some of the best lenses ever made overall, not just in the 135mm focal range.)
You’ve tested out the RF 135, eh?
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9:50 "I love the look you get from a 1.2 sometimes." You have no idea what you're talking about. The 85/1.2 has about a 72mm diameter entrance pupil. The 135/1.8 has about 75mm, basically about the same. At equal distances to subjects, were you to crop the 85 down to 135 field of view, you probably wouldn't be able to tell the two shots apart. In contrast a 50/1.2 only has a 42mm entrance pupil, so would look like a 85 stopped down to f/2 or the 135 stopped down to 3.2. There's no such thing as "the look from a 1.2." Please go take a Photography 101 class before you make any more videos where you spread disinformation like this.
The RF "L" lenses are made of some of the cheapest plastic. Its honestly disgusting and idk why no "influencers" mention it. Just breathe on them and they chip.
Proof?
Actually Jared, if you have a Sony full frame body you now buy the lighter and cheaper Samyang AF 135mm f1.8 FE, not the overpriced Sony 135mm f1.8 GM, as the Samyang is a far better lens optically.
In comparison, the Samyang is sharper, right across the frame, at any aperture, it has no CA or LoCA, even wide open (whereas the GM has to be stopped down to f5.6 to get rid of it's LoCA).
It has perfect image quality at it's MFD wide open (Whereas again, the GM has to be stopped down to f5.6 to get good image quality at it's MFD).
It is essentially distortion free and it has no vignetting, even wide open (Whereas the GM has pincushion distortion and noticeable vignetting wide open).
It has much better flare resistance than the GM (the GM flares like a bitch!).
The AF is just as fast, quiet and accurate as the GM, it has less focus breathing, and it's still razor sharp at f16 (Whereas the GM gets soft due to diffraction at f16).
And after seeing the reviews for the new RF, I can tell you that while the RF is better than the GM, it's still not as good as the Samyang.
The RF has to be stopped down to f2.8 to get rid of it's LoCA, it has to be stopped down to f4 to get good close up image quality at it's MFD, it has pincushion distortion, and it's about double the weight and it's about 3.5x more expensive!!!
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10:58 No, the "right exposure" doesn't necessarily freeze action. 1/100, ISO 100, f/16 would be a correct exposure but not freeze action. What freezes action is a suitably fast SHUTTER SPEED, whether the resulting exposure is under, over, or correctly exposed. Please go take a Photography 101 class before you make any more videos where you spread disinformation like this.
When Sony comes out with the 851.2 who ass you going to kiss
Huh? Please explain you comments.
@@froknowsphoto I will try, lol I can’t
you took alot of pictures
I'm feeling a 85mm, 135mm, 70-200mm comparison video
It separates you and your money! Made my day°😂👍🏻👋🏻
Would be great if Canon brought back the 200/1.8. A great lens from days gone by.
I wonder what size, weight and price would be for such a monster…
@@pawelmod3292 EF 200mm f 1.8 L cost around $4500 originally (1988) and weight 6.6 lbs (3,010g) Size was 5.12" x 8.2" (130mm x 208mm) without the included lens hood in place. RF version probably slightly larger and price around $6500 - $6900 I would estimate.
I second the motion!
@@pawelmod3292 About the same weight and front element size as a 300/2.8 but a bit shorter.
@@pawelmod3292 If you want to see a real monster of a lens, Nikon made a 300/2 back in the day. Front element was about the size of a same-gen 400/2.8 but the lens was the length of a 300/2.8. Very cool bit of glass, came with its own 1.4x TC.
"world series" in a sport only the us and canada play. sure buddy.
Really? You choose that out of the whole video to comment on.
@@froknowsphoto thought it was kinda funny ;) great video tho. I'd consider the lens if i didn't have the sigma (I don't shoot sports, so focus speed is less of a concern to me) or the 85 1.2
I'm really considering one of these for shooting gigs/live music that I have just started being paid for. I love my 70-200 f2.8L for this but this lens would be a game changer for those low light, tight portraits with the lovely bokeh and background.
Great video Jared and thanks for your review!
Hey Fro. I've been a big fan of your channel for a decade. Thanks for making photography so fun.
You were Dris77 before I guess
8:17 I only recently learned what a Winnebago is (not American)
Hello Jared great video! But it would be an great pleasure to see an side to side comparison video of 85 1.2 vs 135 1.8, and also what’s your recommendation for fashion photography which lenses should one start with, thnx in advance and always an pleasure to watch your videos!!
Hey jared, awesome lens but...doesn't fit in the budget or I have to fight with the wife!
I just don‘t understand how they make their prices, in EU the Canon is 2699€ and the Sony is 1649€
But what if i;m -not- a pro?
Useless video for not contrasting with the EF 135/2 that is like 1/4 the price. The EF doesn't have IS but every shot you're taking is like 1/3200 ... as long as you have an IBIS body, you can be sure of at least three stops, getting you down to say 1/30th, and you don't want to go any slower due to subject motion anyway. So, IS in the RF 135mm is pretty pointless.
Agree. The 135 lenses are usually the killer lens of any brand.
In Switzerland the 135 is permanently on backorder (today is Jan 3rd 2023).
and it´s CHF 2'314.- to 2´500.- The EF f/2L was less than half...
None are available in USA
Crazy expensive but so far ive been really impressed with the RF lenses I have. Just a joy to use.
pretty good price though, definately could have been more
I have been waiting on the RF135mm since day one of the R series.
I still have my FD135mm on my AE-1!
Can’t wait to add this one to my collection.
How is it compared to the EF135F2? Love mine. Would probably use it with an adapter if I ever go mirrorless.
EF version has no IS, no weather sealing and moderate CA, depending on the scenario. Most hands-on users have said image quality is improved over the EF version.
@@DanielFazzari cool. Thanks. IS would be welcomed. I never really had much of a CA issue, but then again, I didn’t use it in super high contrast situations.
@@AndrewCCM yeah, "CA beast" was probably harsh. I think for its age, the CA isn't terrible. I'll edit my comment.
The EF 135 f/2L was always one of my favorite lenses - fantastic contrast and sharpness. Image always just had "the look". It will be difficult not to buy one of these.
I don't see the point yet. The IS seems pointless: 135mm is a people lens and people move, so you have to shoot at least say 1/30th, and the IBIS bodies give you 1/30th for sure with the 135mm. And every shot he's got here is 1/3200 or something anyway. So is the bokeh actually better? Resolution? Color fringing?
The good old EF 135 is mainly cheap but on modern high resolution sensor you can see it's decades old design. Sharpness is good but not excellent, focus tracking is slower and contrast and night with bright light sources isn't that great either. For those the RF is worthy upgrade, for 8K video that needs fast AF it's a must have. For the rest the EF version is still good enough.
@@jan.tichavsky I don’t own one anymore but I’d be willing to bet the images still looks good on any resolution sensor. Other than my 200 1.8, it was my favorite ancient EF L.
@@jan.tichavsky All useful information... information this stupid video didn't show us or even talk about...
I haven't shot the 135/2 on my R5 yet so I'll do some experiments later, vs. the RF100/2.8 and RF100-500. I don't think I'll get the RF but the price isn't a problem; I just don't like upgrading without knowing what exactly the improvement will be.
You take the lens hood off so you can get closer to the net and not have it effect AF.
Yo you're gonna cost me a ton of money! Thank you. ;-)
Once you use 135mm, you are a fan of.that focal length
Very happy with my copy that I’m using on an R5. Would often help to know what body you were using with the lens you are showcasing. I originally fell in love with EF 135mm f/2 L but love this upgrade. Also own the RF 85/1.2 L but I do use both all the time. Thank you and take care.
Great video! How does it compare to the EF 135 f/2 L ?
How does the rf 135 do with the R5?
Gotta dissent from your always deactivating the control ring on RF lenses. As an old film SLR shooter from 1968 to 2003, I love getting back an on-lens aperture ring. I set the main dial to control shutter speed like the old top of the camera dial for that and the rear dial for ISO. Shooting RAW in Manual exposure with the three color histogram in the EVF (more informative than a match needle), I'm home! I had gone to Live View on my 70D and 80D to get the accuracy of dual-pixel AF, but I'm back to viewfinder shooting with my R7 - which is actually smaller than my old Canon FT but so much more capable than the 80D it replaced.
I have the EF 135mm f/2L that I keep on my 5ds. It was like 600 from KEH.
Solid review Fro....btw the 80-200/2.8 is still a solid lens! The owner of a newspaper company in Mississippi lets me borrow his to document sports. Used on a body like the d750, d500 etc it can do damage
9:50 "I love the look you get from a 1.2 sometimes you just want to obliterate the background" ???? I don't think you know where bokeh comes from. It doesn't come from f-stop, it comes from aperture. The 85/1.2 has a 72mm aperture. The 135/1.8 is like 75mm. That's the same aperture, given the fact that lens specs are nominal not actual anyway.
OK, go take the 85/1.2 and 135/1.8 shots from a tripod then compare them. The 135 shot is higher magnification of course, but if you crop the 85 to that you will find out the bokeh is just about IDENTICAL. 85/1.2 doesn't obliterate the background any more than 135/1.8, it obliterates "only" the same amount. It just does it in a wider shot.
I cannot believe you're out making camera videos and don't even know this. There are probably people watching your video and taking your mistakes as bible. You are literally making some portion of your audience stupider with this disinformation.
A+ as usual. My EF 135/2 bought used was a steal. With R6's IS I don't need IS in the lens. In any case, I can shoot at 1/500-plus for indoor stage events, and the near-unbelievable image quality lets me crop deeply, similar to what you demo'd with the 135/1.8, effectively giving me a 400mm f/2. Bonus: it has a magical ability to bring out the humanity in images of human faces. Just sayin'. (Age 80, 56 years in photography.)
Hade to believe its a 25ish year old lens
@@Herkulez1981 I'm no expert, but I suspect some lens designs are timeless - Leica Summicron 35, etc. I really don't care if X lens from Samyang is sharper, there are lenses with qualities that aren't worth trying to reduce to numbers. The 135/2 just makes me go all harmonious inside. :-) How's that for tech precision?
Hi Jared. Will you be doing a review of the Samyang 135/1.8 ?
I would love to see a shoot out on the Nikon, Canon and Sony 135 1.8.
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