Reaction to "Mr. McMahon" on Netflix | Busted Open
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- Dave LaGreca provides a full breakdown of the entire "Mr. McMahon" six-episode docuseries on Netflix. Dave dissects each episode and goes over the prevalent themes surrounding Vince including fear, hypocrisy and legacy.
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Vince lied to himself throughout that entire interview. He didn't put his past behind him. It ruled his life. His sexual assualts as a child probably led to his own sexual assaults as an adult, ideas for incest angles, and his (very apparent) sex addiction. Vince never getting approval from his father then led to him never giving his full love and approval to Shane, repeating history. It's all parts of his past dictating his present. You may think you can box up your trama and drive off, leaving it on the side of the road, but you can't. It will always be there and if you don't find a way to manage it, it will manage you.
Absolutely.
Yep. People keep saying there was nothing new, but they did manage to get Vince to expose himself for what he is. Just a mess of unresolved trauma constantly lashing out at the world.
That's something i noticed too and I feel that's the most interesting takeaway from all this. This is one of the few asoects where u can actually see vince as a human and make sense of him. He never got overtraut trauma, he only likes to think he did. And more he neglected it, more he got into doing things that resembled his traumatic experience
Exactly. Unfortunately, Vince probably thought of therapy as a weakness. A shame. He could have been remembered by many as a pioneer, a visionary.
Instead, his legacy will be what’s on those court documents.
The Shane and Vince knife story from Paul Heyman was not expected for me.
Crazy how it was not expected yet not surprising at the same time!
@@trelefebvre5807 I’m going to go out on a limb and say Paul made up about 92% of the dialogue 😂. I’m sure the story was true but Paul made that story 20x better
Yes thats one of the things where I am sure most of it was made up. That was one of the weakest moments of Paul Heymans legacy..
@@3rdFloor Agreed. It probably happened, but Paul can't help embellishing.
That was a jaw dropper for me when I heard that story.
This wasn’t a Vince documentary it was more about wwe as a whole.
Im 3 in so far, its very much what WWE is, with a Vince backstory (so far)
No its Vince. Not wwe.
It was a "story so far" doc for whatever new audience they will get when they get to netflix.
59:40 It's bothered me for 25+ years every time I hear this misconception repeated. I was watching the PPV live that night. That was NOT Owen's blood on the canvas! Search Over the Edge 1999 on Peacock. That bloodstain is clearly visible during the first two matches. Godfather & Owen were third on the card. Where DID that bloodstain come from then, you might ask. Cue up Sunday Night Heat from May 23, 1999(s2 e21). Skip to 33:53 to see the Brood hit the Hardys & Michael Hayes with a bloodbath. Watch as Matt Hardy smears his fake-blood covered left arm on the canvas while standing. That night was traumatic for wrestling fans (R.I.P. Owen), but for 25 years I cringe every time someone mentions "Owen's blood" still on the ring. I can't believe I've never encountered anyone else who remembers this accurately.
Thanks for the fact finding. Well Done.
Tbf the doc is full of lies. My favorite funniest one, is the rock constantly repeating that he turned heel, and he told the crowd “it’s not a black thing or a white thing, it’s a me kicking your ass thing” that was actually Austin telling the rock that
its so bad sadly, it will makes lots of people think thats the truth when it isnt. its sad... all about sensationalist.
@@Ohkayy_yyhe actually did say this when he joined the nation in 97 he didn’t say the kicking ass part . your thinking about 3 months later when the feud after survivor series leading to Degeneration X in your house.
I remember this. I was fourteen when it happened, I've always reminded people of this fact when it's brought up among my wrestling friends. However whose blood it is doesn't matter. The fact is people who had just seen something tragic happen to a person they knew very well had to go out and wrestle and work in a ring where someone had just died. How do you enjoy wrestling immediately after something like that? Jeff Jarrett never even got to deal with his issues of having to work a match so shortly after his best friend died in the very space he was now working. Children lost their father, a wife lost a husband, wrestlers and co-workers lost a friend. I certainly didn't enjoy the rest of the show that night, the show shouldn't have gone on. No matter whose blood it was .
My favorite interviews were the ones with Tony Atlas. He was the most real person interviewed and told things how they were.
He has Stockholm. His boss grabbed his privates and he either liked it or had absolutely no recourse against harassment. No judgement IF he liked it but it's abuse of power.
*spoiler alert*
Most of the doc as an invested fan wasn’t much new information but some from the early years I may not have had as well as very interesting to hear takes on:
-John Stossel
-Ringboy scandal
-Wendi Richter screwjob foreshadowing the Montreal Screwjob
-Owen Hart and the show must go on
-Benoit
Just finished watching the whole "MR. McMAHON" docuseries.
Episode 6: "The Finish" covered the events since 2022 as well as can be expected, considering most of the interviews were filmed before it all took place.
There was a lot of filler and oft-repeated lore, but it's basically a 6-hour history of WWE since the 1980s, with a focus on Vince McMahon and the McMahon family.
I found Episode 1: "Junior" the most interesting, as it covered Vince's early life and origins in the business (although little is known about his childhood, as Vince won't really talk about it).
My favorite tidbit: When Vince stated his favorite wrestler growing up was old-school heel Dr. Jerry Graham, and that he apparently stole his infamous "strut" from him.
Just keep in mind this disclaimer, at the very beginning of the documentary:
"THE MAJORITY OF THE FOLLOWING INTERVIEWS, INCLUDING WITH VINCE McMAHON, WERE FILMED BEFORE THE SEXUAL MISCONDUCT ALLEGATIONS WERE MADE PUBLIC."
Austin not believing in CTE is crazy. And Vince not believing takers concussion vs Brock at mania. Vince is such a pos
When Vince said it was the shock of undertaker losing even though he went to the hospital with him. Really?!
I took it that Austin didn't believe CTE caused Benoit to do that
That was such random and needless gaslighting. 😂
I am in complete agreement with the host's comments on the territory era (around the 29 minute mark). I could not have expressed it better myself. To my point, this was the Saturday TV schedule that I enjoyed as a teen in the early to mid 1980s:
9 am - 10 am Mid Atlantic
10 am - 11 am World Class
11 am - 12:30 pm Memphis
12:30 pm - 1:30 pm Mid South
4 pm - 5 pm Florida
5:05 pm - 7:05 pm World Championship Wrestling
What a fascinating combination viewed on a TV with rabbit ears, fledgling UHF channels and was connected to a satellite dish :)
The “3Brains” portion of the Doc was the most interesting to me. They even teach you that in film school, so it’s not alarming. What’s paramount, is what a person decides to do with those “3Brains”. As a G.O.D or Generator Operator Destroyer, those decisions are crucial!
On the 83wks podcast the Blue Meanie” states the blood wasn’t from Owen Hart
I'm truly convinced he was playing the character on this Documentary. He just turned it up in certain segments.
The Mr McMahon documentary completely missed his endeavors with Evel Knievel that nearly put him out of business most of the documentary was a rehash of the Monday night Wars that you can watch on peacock
For people curious about Vince’s childhood he goes deep into it in his 2002 playboy interview
What a phenomenal conversation between two awesome gents talking shop. You guys have great chemistry and cant wait for more conversations between you two.
Vince was a creep and an absolute weirdo with women who worked with him. That’s not a conspiracy
I was really hoping for more of the personal life of Vince instead of wrestling/WWF/E history with a light Vince's role story. I'd have loved to have heard more about his life before the wrestling industry. His marriage, his schooling, his feelings on his kids and their feelings growing up with him as a father, etc. More stories about stuff he did outside of events- stuff to expand on anecdotes others have shared like Bruce Prichard talking about his fart stories or his fascination with vocabulary. His relationships with some of his confidants like Pat Patterson. What involvement he has at all as a grandfather. His brother. His friends outside of the business.
Even the stuff they touched on, Vince's personal story is basically glossed over. The Wendy Richter stuff for example- it's just glossed over in a way that they all look petty. I'd have loved to have heard instead more in depth on Vince's relationship with Moolah and how it shaped WWF women's wrestling behind the scenes than just that one title incident. They didn't even mention that it was Moolah as The Spider.
Overall, this sucked. It didn't accomplish anything. Outsiders will gain a confusing and incomplete picture of wrestling and Vince, and long time fans will learn little to nothing new.
It didnt suck….. this is an insane take. He told you about his life before in the first episode lol. He clearly says his entire life is about the business of wrestling . It had a lot of backstory with his dad and childhood and gave you a great summary of the wwe and vince role in orchestrating it. I watched it with my wife who only knew a little and she loved it
Vince's life IS the WWE. That's what the doc was trying to show. There is no life outside of WWE for Vince. Could they of gone in more on his younger years sure but once he buys wwf his life is part and parcel with wwe.
@spoogtastic That's Vince's control of the narrative. He's a person behind closed doors. He owns multiple homes, an estranged marriage, has kids and grandkids, has had time for several affairs- WWE is just the part of Vince he's comfortable with the world knowing. If business was all he was, there would be no scandals to report. There wouldn't be stories about him taking the Hart Foundation's finisher on the floor of a strip club and getting kicked out. His ongoing interest in outside sports ventures- they briefly touched, and I mean less than a minute, on the WBF, but it and the XFL happening twice as well as the failed movie studio show that Vince has other interests.
He has quirks that people have shared over the years in interviews and padcasts- stuff like not knowing what a burrito is, pooping his pants while attempting a fart prank, his violent reaction to sneezing... There's a person there that is just well-guarded, and painting himself as synonymous with his biggest success is just another wall.
DID you watch the same documentary as the rest of the world? They touched upon his personal life with his father and his children and it was a continous web throughout the documentary. This was a documentary around Vince and his misdeeds. This man is a monster and like all megalomaniacs he denied any wrongdoing. Look at the all the lives this man has ruined. How does the show go on when a wrestler dies in the ring? The sexual assaults, the awful treatment of women, having employees work everyday of the year and not caring about addiction and pain, the denial of wrongdoing and the million other crimes committed. ALSO, I lost all respect for STEVE AUSTIN denying that CTE DOES NOT EXIST. SCSA basically does not believe in science with undeniable evidence is mind-blowing. Knowing how this company was built I am shocked how people get behind this disgusting company. I can not support WWE any longer, not that I really did anyway, due to all this evidence on how this company was built
@chrispetrelis5013 They touched on Vince's childhood, but never really explored it other than to acknowledge that it existed and wasn't happy. I was disappointed, because the whole selling point of this was the unprecedented access to Vince and his life, and they didn't get much outside of the business. It was the lack of new information that I found so disappointing. Everything else was already very available.
Watched the first three episodes. It’s very well done.
it was very well done, however as a fan of WWE and wrestling for the past 40 years there wasn't much said or shown that I hadn't already heard from other documentaries, including WWE's own produced documentaries.
@@TechguyericdI hate Vince
Adding to the subject of unresolved childhood trauma, I found it interesting that he just mentions incest playing into a part of his childhood without elaborating. Then later explaining a story pitch where Stephanie would have been impregnated by him.
He talks a lot about moving forward, but unfortunately for him, he's always moved forward while still being stuck as a teen in this hamster wheel of his own business. It's really sad when you look at the root of it all.
I didn't know Tony atlas knew vince McMahon more than austin,rock,hhh,undertaker and cena combined. It was a WASTE of time,we already knew mostly about everything
That wasn't Owen's blood. In fact, it's not blood at all. Watch the PPV from the very beginning and you'll see the stain is there in the first match. It was from a fake blood bath on Sunday Night Heat.
Continue to push this until Dave LeGrecca issues an on air/ on video correction.
yep ... on the 83 WEEKS podcast Conrad said the Blue Meanie told him about it after the Netflix doc. came out ... they showed photos on the same podcast of the fake blood happening and/or the aftermath
3:10 - That was the intention 🤔 they wanted to show how much Vince blurred the lines between reality and kayfabe. How much he blurred the lines between Vince McMahon and Mr. McMahon 🤔
You nailed it. How did they not understand this was intentional. The whole point is his legacy is complex and complicated
I haven't watched this reaction video yet, but I wanted to post an immediate take.
I know a lot about autism. I have long suspected Vince is autistic. So when I went in watching this, what I was really hoping for is Vince to peel back the curtain of the Wizard of Vince. And he did. I thought it was revealing, and fascinating. Vince, without saying autism, does have some self awareness that he's different, that his brain works differently, and that he's in a world where most people are not like him. He talked about it often. He, like a lot of autistic people, built a world in which he could live in, and isolate himself from the world that he couldn't live in and would never accept and understand him otherwise (for example, the New York Post columnist). He often talked about how nobody really knows him. Autistic people call that masking. Vince's "genius", is the Oz that he built, and that he understood allistic people well enough to draw them into his Oz and be able to live a full life that most autistic people don't get to have. Autistic people have a deficiency in the part of the brain that is responsible for dopamine, and autistic people often have to go to extremes for it to fire, be it drugs, or gambling, or in Vince's case, sex. Things that allistic people get dopamine hits from, like getting a hug from their child, Vince couldn't get. I feel a lot of sympathy for Shane after watching this. I know how he feels, and I give him a ton of credit and admire greatly how well adjusted he is, because it could have been completely the other way with him, where his life would have been one of despair, sadness, and filled with addiction. It's really remarkable.
Anyway, I don't know if this will resonate, and maybe I shouldn't even be posting this, but that's how I see it. Vince's legacy is that he built his Oz, which brought so much joy to millions of wrestling fans around the world, but tragically couldn't enjoy it himself, and hurt so many people in the process. It's a Shakespearean tale that reminds us that the world isn't black and white, babyface and heel, and that the world is grey, and good people are capable of being really bad, and bad people are capable of being really good, and we should be careful about how much power we give to people who gives us an escape from the difficult, complex and nuanced world we live in. The wrestling is real, but the Oz of wrestling is not. Vince liked his family, but loved his wrestling. It should be the opposite. Love your family, and like your wrestling.
Having Dave Meltzer being one of the main people being interviewed and talking in this documentary makes no sense, there is clear bias and he doesnt have good track record about being fair or honest about WWE
Agreed
…but as a journalist, he lived through the whole saga and reported on it from the 80s, there’s footage of him on Donahue sat right next to VKM, who else is a better source.
ps. I hate Meltzers AEW star ratings in 2024, but who better than Meltzer to give his account on Vince?
Dave has become a crappy journalist and critic, but he is one the guys the covered Vince's career for the longest time. In this case he is not citing unreliable sources, he is citing history.
@@adamloughran910 all we really need to do is look at what a bunch of wrestlers have said in the past or have come out about Vince, cause the wrestlers are around or were around Vince throughout his career, definitely more than meltzer.
What about ppl like cena taker brock foley Austin and others who don’t think he’s the evil prick. Do they not matter? But the bitter wrestlers who couldn’t get over, they do?
This Documentary was Vince Mcmahons reaction to half of Dark Side of the Ring episode guide.
The Rita Chatterton piece was damning. Sure, most fans now knew about it...but folks need to consider how this doc looks to NEW eyes, casual Netflix viewers and long lapsed fans who will see this cold with fresh eyes... that is where this hits. Shane comes out really well, and Mushnick & Meltzer came out as fairly straight.
Kinda surprising since Netflix hates Rs with the passion of a thousand burning suns.
The “Vince doesn’t like pro wrestling” comment is a misunderstanding by wrestling fans. Vince was saying that in order to be as big and popular as he wanted to be it has to be more than pro wrestling. The old school AWA want going to last whether Vince raided them or not. That stuff was niche and too carny. Vince made wrestling popular because he figured out how to entertain the masses and not just a niche market
It makes no sense judging Vince for the attitude era when the late 90s and early 00s were different time. People are acting like there was not other shows and movies that portrayed women a certain way.
People judge all of that too, actually... I promise lol.
Hindsight is 20\20. I have 2 daughters who are 7 and 2, now the 2 year old is way to young to be getting into wrestling (she will watch it when i'm watching it but doesn't understand anything that is going on, she just sees bright colors and fast action on the TV) but the 7 year old I wouldn't stop her from watching wrestling even Attitude era shows, however being objective it was 20% amazing stuff, and 80% god awful stuff, but at the time it was just the coolest because it was more edgy and realistic, which was a complete 180 from the New Generation shit we had.
I was 16\17 in 1997 and as such beginning in 1996 i remember going to school and doodling the nWo logo on all of my school papers because they were cool. I didn't have access to ECW outside of the Apter mags, but 1991-1995 WCW was lame I still watched it but it wasn't good especially when Hogan got there. Then 96 happened and everything changed. If Bishoff would have stayed focused on producing the best show he could have I think he would have put Vince out of business, if he would have used Bret Hart the way that Vince had used Bret (Babyface technician helping WCW to destroy the nWo (Bret could have been the missing piece WCW needed to finally put away the nWo, but he was a pseudo member didn't make sense).
I don't think the Attitude era would be so fondly remembered if it had came out right after the Golden Era\ Rock n wrestling era. We were being force fed shit and told to like it, that when we got something different it was bologna sandwich on white bread but it tasted so much better than the shit we were eating for the past 5-6 years.
Most were not quite to the degree that WWE did that stuff, but yah, there was a lot of “edgy” content around then. It’s hard to judge fully since if you were a teenage boy at the time, it was targeted at you so there could be bias at play. I didn’t mind back then, because I was a teenage boy, but reflecting on it nowadays, they didn’t HAVE to go as far as they did, some of it is flat out embarrassing. It also makes it incredibly hard to show some of that stuff to anyone nowadays. “It was of the time” doesn’t really make it good viewing now, and it’s not like it was peachy keen back then either, they got tons of pressure to dial it back.
This is just the world we live in now, Vince said it best in the documentary you can’t judge the past with todays current values of course people would get offended
Believe me, it was uncomfortable at the time too. Maybe not if you were a teenage boy.
I covered my face in second hand embarrassment when Double J cut that promo right after Owen died.
No bubba or mark for this topic 😂😂
Just finished. This is about 80% of the McMahon dvd that came out like 8 years ago with the updated content
Keep in mind that some of the people interviewed said no to the doc, so the pulled footage from other sit downs the had clipped answers that would line up with the question asked and edited it together.
always delivering! GOOD SHIT GUYS
BS! I watched with my Mother who is not a wrestling fan and she followed the show just fine. Stop thinking people are dumb.
Ya his wife didnt even watch it “she came in and out” if you only watch parts of it randomly you will be confused, but my wife (who knew a little but if the history ) LOVED IT. And it made sense to her and she was never confused. They explain everything clearly and the verbiage. That was an odd take
Yeah it's very easy to follow. This is why i actually recommended my friend who is casually watching wrestling to watch this. I think it explains the wrestling timeline pretty well
I was a bit disappointed because almost all of the content on the documentary was things I’ve always seen before on other WWE Documentaries or on Darkside of the Ring. It was watching a rerun of it all for 5 episodes outside of Shane’s portion of the documentary. I’ve always wondered about that relationship! Episode 6, the final episode was the only part of what I hoped the entire documentary would be about.
I was surprised and disheartened to hear Austin basically be a CTE-denier in this day and age. I mean even Taker came around on banning chair shots being a good thing.
I think what he was trying to say, was that professional wrestling in and of itself doesn’t necessarily cause CTE. He mentioned the only concussion he had wrestling was when he got piledriven by Owen so he maybe thinks that when done right there’s very little chance of doing long term damage to their brain. Still an insane take.
Just like Steve McNair doc, Netflix left a lot more questions than answers
Vince gaslighting Taker’s concussion is wild!!!
I personally do not believe in stepping on other people to get on top and stay on top.
Wow caught this the minute you posted. Immaculate lol
Shane McMahon should be running WWE
If that happens, wwe will be more hardcore like aew. I wont be surprised if shane o mac is coming to aew because he loves hardcore wrestling
@@pinroshan020 👀 hmmmm
Shane is a good guy, but they're not wrong that he's too soft. HHH is doing a good job and he has much more experience in the business.
@@vanyadolly True, which hurts my soul lol
I really enjoyed watching the Vince McMahon Documentary Series . There was some stuff in the Documentary that i didn't know about.
1:15 I felt like episode three could have been cut in half on old info for wrestling nerds. I also regret finishing it at noon cst.
I love how vince was so open about it being business. You may think vince is an anomaly, but this is corporate america. Tabaco companies have been killing people for decades. How many vince mcmahon are in those companies?? Pharmaceutical companies. If it's not illegal, it's free game. Stop for a second and put your emotions and morality aside, and you will understand business and vince
He wants to indict America and business/capitalism by his persona though, and that's like saying an arsonist defines the nature of fire.
The Attitude era was the greatest era of all time
bad ecw
The Attitude Era was a rip off of ECW
When it comes to lying, Vince McMahon has the same philosophy as George Costanza: "It's not a lie, if you believe it"...
just like the Traitor Trump 👌
i finished last night. it was good but def could've been better and maybe a 10 episode series, some episodes felt clustered/rushed into one when it could've been its own episode separately. its basically 90% of what we already knew, saw, heard ourselves from other documentaries/interviews, youtube podcasts "not scam related, all this was filmed prior to that and i already knew it wasn't going to be included".. i felt like some of the people they brought in to speak didn't really say much i was really looking forward to hearing heyman, taker, austin, hhh, steph/shane speaking the most considering they all been with him for decades and are family but didn't see much in my opinion... id give it a 7.5 "again most was what we saw, read, and knew already with him" if it was 90% new stuff id give a 8.5/9.... i do believe his childhood and other things played into what made vince, vince "almost like he was re living and acting it out through others so he could be on the viewing end of it this time" im 50/50 with him and have been the whole time but after this and seeing some other things i didn't know to much about back than "sexual cover up's ect" idk it is kind of hard to not believe grant but same time i do see a $ scam ONLY because of the timing of how this all went down it was just odd timing in my opinion
like it or not this man was part of our childhoods, teenage years, and now adult hood.. if it wasn't for him who knows what our childhoods would've looked like or if wcw won the war we don't have what we have today so for him i will forever be grateful but same time im still waiting for that 1 key piece of info to get leaked to make me truly throw the towel in on him
Vince didn’t steal anything, he gave opportunities and people took it.
I binged it, overall 7.5/10, I thought it was going to be much different than what it ended up being
More of a softball documentary but it makes sense considering the Netflix/WWE deal.
Hulk being a hell in WWE wouldn't have worked. And it would've been a failure in WCW without Hall and Nash.
23:03 The irony of him buying the company from his dad and him being adamantly against Shane owning/running WWE.
This is exactly why Martha Hart won't let Owen be inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame
love dave's red filter
There’s a Gorilla Monsoon documentary coming out and in the works actually
the steroid trial was blown, of course Vince didn't force his performers to use them, nor did he tell them they had to use them. However if you didn't use them your chances of getting a substantial push were going to be slim to none. So Vince didn't force you to take steroids, but he in a round about way highly encouraged them to take them.
True. And because it's not exactly, direct competition it's not so important, but he doesnt get their health is ethical matter for corporation of their strata.
I honestly did and also didn’t like the Documentary, I felt like there wasn’t enough clarity on some subjects or it was rushed at times.i also thought it wasn’t honest. I really thought it was gonna be more around what Vince did recently 😂😂😂. Worst part was the last 2 episodes where he literally disappeared because of the allegations😂😂😂. It kinda really puts everything in perspective about everything that’s being put out there… I also thought that the worst part of this, was the people that where put in this documentary because I get the feeling as most do , that most of these people/persons are in McMahon back pocket.
This documentary was a lot to unpack I think the major stuff was:
McMahon's point of view that we never heard about different issues and allegations
Vince not giving the keys to Shane and Stephanie easily
Benoit and Owen were discussed
Bruce Pritchard staying loyal to Vince and didn't agree to the documentary's viewpoint
And Vince's childhood
Most of these stuff were mostly revisited
I watched it too it was wild and he was a piece of shit for telling his folk to work after Bret heart brothers death in the ring that was heartless 🤬🤬🤬😡🤬
It’s business. Did the Yankees not play the die Thurman died? They played right after his funeral.
Yes, you hope Owen's death was faked because on surface level, that was truly sick. They walk passed Gangrel's prop blood but they think it's Owen's and do promos out of his death news update.
Those people would have been MORE TRAUMATIZED had he did that. Me watching at home would have been more traumatic
Solid breakdown, but no way he listed creatine as problem with steroids haha
Super sensitive thoughts by both Dave and the former employee
Man y'all are quick. Only had time for episode one. Will watch some more later
It's their job
38:15 That was pre-internet, pre-social media times so you could control the narrative. Yes, they were lying but it makes sense if that’s story they wanted to tell. We don’t call it lying any other time in pro wrestling even when we know the winners are pre determined.
The 10 minutes with Roman and Cody was handled better than the six episode docuseries
Thanks for this .. Netflix got lot of content.. there be more they own the footage .. hope vince gets to see the next lot in a coronatioal facility 😊🎉
I think Steph might be like 5-10% less of a psycho than Vince. She’s got a lot of difficult questions to answer.
Nah attitude era RAW is lit 🔥 and this dude Dave is talking to comes across sounding like a bit of a hypocrite to me.
But maybe I’m misunderstanding….
I thought it was less about McMahon and more about the WWE
I love y'all first and foremost... but bro why no closed captions or 1080p? Jw.
Thats youtube. Not them.
@@ConfuzedMind it's not youtube, it's a couple boxes needed to be checked by the content creator in settings
@TunzoFun They can click every box on the internet, won’t matter if they have crappy cameras and low bandwidth.
@@jool5941 well that is true if that's the case
Just started episode 3
How come no one ever asks the question of how come Linda has stayed with him this whole time? Haha she must love that money
It’s so painfully obvious that no one even considers asking it.
I would have preferred to see another guest, someone more intelligent, as the documentary was very interesting.
Why have we ever cared about steroids to begin with? They’re not illegal to take but we act like it’s some morally bankrupt thing to do.
Steroids gives people the illusion that the guy taking them is "healthy and in shape" - when in reality alot of them were alcoholics and pill poppers and were a long way from being "healthy and in shape".. 👌
This just felt like a Dark side of the Ring show or Who Killed WCW. This is all stuff that has been out there in a dozen other documentaries. Yes this has vince himself in it speaking on his point of view but basically everything that was covered has been covered a dozen times over. Id be curious though how wrestlers feel about Pat Patterson seems like between DOTR and this Doc bringing light to allegations towards him considering Pat is viewed among the Wrestlers as a Huge impact on Professional Wrestling as a whole.
Vince Mcmahon, an amazing promoter, great in ring personality....gold medal mental gymnast
not on those 'ambush' interviews wow
Pray for Vince #prayforvince
How come they didn't interview Kevin Dunn?
Vince flat out DIDDY-ED HIMSELF!
All this docu-series did...was solidify for me WHY the ONLY McMahon I have ANY respect for.......is Shane!
Shane McMahon is the definition of a sympathetic victim based on this documentary
Dave I told my home boy that earlier he was playing victim
The part where the journalist from the New York post stated the fans don’t care when pro wrestlers die and just move on to the next really pissed me off. As a kid Owen hart and Bret were my favorites and when Owen died I cried like I lost a family member. The same over for Eddie and several other wrestlers I idolized as a child. It was such a bs statement.
Sorry bro but it’s true and it relates to everyone. You’ll be forgotten 2 years after you die.
The journalist is saying Vince Mcmahon has been able to avoid answering for those incidents due to audience giving him pass and lot of validity to that take
Mushnick was always a bit sketchy himself so I wouldn't worry about his opinions.
@@ShadowNextGenn If he's calling out predatorial actions on minors I would. Discrediting is tactic from woody allen playbook when used against child abuse whistleblowers.
I can remember writing end of year high school exams at the time when Eddie passed away and feeling emotional about it in the exam room with pen in hand.
For a few weeks thereafter I would often rematch the tribute video to Eddie that WWE produced and aired during the Eddie Guerrero Tribute show.
Vince SCREWED Vince
I thought they would cover the first black Sunday when Vince took over gcw tv
You have to take "documentaries" with a grain of salt. 100 hrs worth of footage condensed down to 6. There's no telling what was left out and what responses was actually what and not just edited together.
10:00 I agree, the bottom line is he’s a bad guy.
Am I the only one who thinks this Matt guy comes off like a bitter ex-employee someone who thinks he knew everything when he was working there and I feel like they just gave him a job and he ran his mouth about it and people were tired of him and that's how he got fired
What about when Pillman died he put his wife on live tv to interview her
26:45 Agreed.
What about what he did to Ashley Massero?
The reckoning will come & Vince will pass
Matt Camp is great on this show! I always knew he was legit, but I like this version of him much better.
You got this wrong
It was very tame and un eventful , nothing explosive and over hyped I feel .
It sucks that this upstages the last episode on NXT, but it is understandable. At least the first episode on CW won't be upstaged by a documentary.
They didn't bury vince and they had him help with the documentary...sad shit
It sucks has a few good things but most of it was already know episode 3 and the last one is the was the good stuff 😊
Dave big fan. I think Netflix is going to promote this for a little while. Then they are going to push it way under the rug when raw shows up.
Nothing new on the doc that we didn’t know
You guys are spending WAY too much time on this topic. You're repeating yourselves and blathering on about nothing over and over just like the doc itself.
Wait who is this other guy lol
And you lost me at Vince created Pro wrestling v