The Special Edition is an entirely OTHER film. The TRUE masterpiece, it's not just some "extended" version. And the only way to truly appreciate what the "Abyss" actually is!
I agree. It's the only Special Edition that I actually see as mandatory. Also important to consider: The Special Edition was released to cinemas in 1993, so it is an official theatrical release. When I recently watched the theatrical cut I was surprised that it also kind of works however. But the actual emotional impact comes with the Special Edition.
Yes , it adds so much to the film. When I saw it back the 80's I did like it but also felt that something was missing and unresolved. When the SE came out then there it was all answered and complete.
Ken, you watched the wrong version dude! We tried to tell ya brother😉... This isn't just some regular extended version. The Special Edition cut IS the version that Cameron intended for audiences to see... not the theatrical cut (which was all hacked up just to allow for more screenings). You missed out on some pretty crucial context/storyline points that completely change the nature of the film's ending (and flesh out the characters more). As so many of us have said, the special edition really is the only version to watch. I wouldn't even watch the theatrical cut when it was available in HD on streaming... that's how significant the difference between the two cuts is. That said, I'm glad to hear you liked it. But I think you would've liked the film much more if you had gone with the special edition cut (which is about 2 hours and 43 minutes before the credits roll).
@@Mr._AV_Nerd The disc will start playing in the Theatrical version by default; when it starts hit the Top Menu button on your remote to get the main menu and from there select 1993 Special Edition (its at the bottom).
The longer version was cut down so there could be more showings daily in theater. Cameron removed an entire storyline. The director's cut is the one to watch. Mary was also In Scarface.
I’m so glad to see someone review this who has never seen it. I thought I was the only person left on the planet who hadn’t seen it based on the hype this disc was getting. If it wasn’t for this 4K release I would have gone my entire life without seeing it. Anyway thanks for your honesty and great review as always.
@@simscollectables i was in the same boat, blown away by how good this 4K looks - a movie from 1989 looking like it was filmed yesterday! The movie has it's issues though...
I also watched this for the first time on 4k but I watched the extended edition. I went straight to that version, due to the advice of tons of comments and other YT channels. I liked it a lot, btw. I did listen to the commentary on Aliens and James Cameron himself stated that the Special Edition for Aliens and Ext edition of the Abyss is the version that James Cameron wanted to be released but the studio made him cut it down to 2 hours 10 min, so that it could be run in theatres the maximum amount of showings. Some of those character gaps you mentioned may have been resolved by watching the longer full edition of 2:50.
I saw The Abyss on the big screen and it looked fantastic! I need to watch it again to see about the smoothing faces issue! I will say I suspect they did go back to the camera negative for this movie and it's easily the best of the 4K's but yes not perfect!
Ken, I took a date to see The Abyss in the theater! I did not see the "Director's extended version" until it came to the DVD version. THAT is the BEST. Getting Aliens and True Lies on Sunday, finally.
Hey Ken, glad you enjoyed it. Without a doubt this is the movie to show how bad a studio can ruin a movie by forcing the film to be shortened for theatrical release. I saw this in the theater and yes it was absolutely incredible to see on the big screen. I loved it right up until the end and it didn’t make any sense and I was actually upset and I would tell people go see it, but walk out five minutes before it ends. When the special edition cut was released on DVD and I think that’s the only way it was released on DVD the movie was instantly transformed from a 6.5 to an 8.5. I guarantee its love over the years is only because of the special edition cut, I think you did the right thing by watching the theatrical cut first although I did recommend in a prior comment to only watch the special edition but listen to me now and watch it right away as you’ll definitely want to comment on how much better the movie is than the theatrical release it’s almost a crime and I also guarantee that you’ll never watch the theatrical cut again. have a great one as always👍
Actually it wasn’t the studio that ruin the movie James Cameron had finally cut on The Abyss for the theatrical release. The studio wanted a 2 hr 15min but he delivered a 2hr 25min cut. He cut the wave scene cause ILM didn’t have time to finish the effects and also his cut that included the original ending tested poorly when showing pictures of what the wave scene could potentially look like. It wasn’t till after the success of T2 his company Lightstorm had a $500m deal with 20th Century Fox and in that deal he was allowed to complete The Abyss Special Edition for Laserdisc in 1993. The original crew for ILM came back to recreate the tidal wave scene.
The Director's cut was supposed to be the Theatrical Cut. It is the REAL version. The reason it was not the theatrical version: 1) ILM could not finish the sfx for the finale scene in time for release 2) The Studio wanted a shorter version for more screeinings per day.
Watched it on a 120” laser tv with an ALR screen… what a slap in the face! Fantastic work from JC, the colors are amazing eapxialy with the aliens, but the sound, OMG! Inside the cargo under water where the action takes place. You can hear each droplets all over you on a Dolby atmos sound system as if you were on set. It’s really bluffing. 10/10 and I really don’t even care about faces too perfect or whatever. That version is giving the movie an eternal life!
It's not being released here in the UK because of the a holes at the BBFC. That's why the price is so high at the moment. People are scalping them like crazy.
I picked this up on sunday. Have connections to a culture and music association that runs a local movie theatre, we're gonna have a private screening there 🤩😎
Do watch the Special Edition! It's not just a couple of additional extended scenes, it's a totally different experience. The theatrical cut didn't make much sense, especially as far as the aliens and their true intentions are concerned. The ending is mind blowing and gives the whole movie a deep meaning. I originally saw the theatrical cut in a movie theater and when the end credits started to roll I really asked myself what this was all about. The Special Edition is the one to see. Afterwards, you won't waste any time rewatching the theatrical cut again!
I'm looking forward to seeing it. However in spite of pre ordering it before it came out Amazon tells me my copy could be here anytime between April and May. They really messed up the release. Did they think only 5 people would be interested in a film that really hasn't seen a proper release for 30 years? Crazy. The special edition is quite different. I saw the original when it came out in theaters and it was good. When I picked up the special laserdisc box set back in 93',which I still have,it raised the film in my eyes quite a bit. The ending alone really changes the mood of the film and there are too many character bits put back in the film to count. The DVD from 2001 was simply a transfer of the laserdisc. So seeing this now should be interesting in spite of Cameron using some wonky AI program for the master when they should be doing step by step with people to really make sure it's great.
I also think this is a great 4K. When I used to watch my DVD and dreamed about watching the movie in a higher resolution I couldn't have dreamed of a better picture. It also helps that we never saw the movie in high resolution in its grittier form. This way this version just feels right, even if the picture probably was altered quite a bit. But it's not the kind of restauration that takes you out of it constantly with ugly filters and such but instead it's very inoffensive and, most importantly, consistent.
Typically, I recommend watching theatrical cuts first, so I won't say you screwed up watching it first. I can't remember if I've watched the theatrical cut since my family rented it on VHS back in 1990, but I thought that was merely *pretty good*. I finally got to watch the Special Edition last week, and it is soooo much better than the theatrical cut! (ETA: I watched the 1080p blu-ray. The "newness" took some getting used to, but I thought it looked great. Most of the above water scenes didn't bother me, it could be a case like what I've heard about the True Lies blu-ray, that those scenes might translate better to 1080p than 4K.) Fun fact: Leo Burmester, who played "Catfish" De Vries, was from Louisville!
I saw the digital version and really enjoyed it. I have the Special Edition DVD. But it's been more than 10 years that I saw this movie. The atmos is better than some recent productions and I really appreciate the restoration. I'm getting the disc 100% (as well as Aliens and Titanic)
Just a note, Ken, but descriptive audio is far from a commentary. It’s an audio track meant for the blind and those with vision challenges. It simply describes what is happening on screen when there isn’t dialogue. It’s much needed for the visually challenged, but again has nothing to do with a commentary.
I can’t EVER imagine watching on DVD again. I do have that DVD and it’s on my “to do” list to get that comparison vid up. Will be “soon….” But yeah - as so many are saying, watch the special edition. So much more there and you won’t find that “weird middle point” that you found in the theatrical. Always appreciate your thoughts my brother - glad you finally got this in to experience but be sure to go back one day and watch the way Cameron intended it to be.
I also watch theatrical cuts prior to directors cuts. After watching the special edition version of ‘The Abyss’ I had a much greater appreciation for the film. The docs on my old 2000 DVD also give weight to the sh!t-show the crew went thru to complete the movie. The deeper into the Abyss you go the more appreciation you have for it.
I watched The Abyss on DVD back in the day. Remembered I liked it but didn't realise how great it was I watched the digital a few months back and was very impressed. Received 4k a few days ago, and omfg. Transfer was phenomenal. I like some grain but if Cameron did not think it needed it.. I mean it's Cameron .Dolby Atmos was the best out there. I watched special edition and seen theatre version Watch Special edition. You will never watch theatre version again A bit like LOTR. The Abyss is a masterpiece. Owning 4K disc a must
Can't wait to get this on 4k, this was the movie that got me excited about movie sound and eventually home theater! The bass when I first saw it was awesome and truly immersive!!!
Extended version of The Abyss is the one to watch to fully understand everything going on from the beginning sequence through to the end credits. The story is very relevant to today.
the shorter version was original distributed to cinemas as it could take more screenings, Cameron had to cut a lot of plot out, but he went back and produced the extended version as he wanted to fill out the film to the version he had intended. A shame you didnt watch it you might have had some more favourable comments. I suggest watch the longer version and do an update to this review. I personally can't go back and watch the theatrical release now I've seen the extended version.
I saw The Abyss in the cinema on release and the 1993 SE is the ONLY way to watch it since it was uodated. The Theatrical cut is vastly inferior. The new 4k disc is great and it's so good to once agin have it on my shelf.
Picture quality is amazing! What is not, is the menu that does not go away when paused and stays on screen for 4 seconds after pressing play. I cannot be the only one who LOATHES discs that they do this to! WHY?????
You are so right. The Abyss is James Cameron's Close Encounters of The Third Kind. The Special Edition is the best way to watch this underrated masterpiece
This is a fantastic movie! You should really check out the Special Edition Mid Level. It really fleshes out the characters and the story itself. One of Cameron's best. Perfect mix of drama, action and romance! I thought the transfer and Atmos track was very well done.
I also ordered it the day it came out and am still waiting for my order to ship. I just got True Lies last week. I can't wait to watch this in 4K. Love this movie.
It's not limited, it will restock. It was cancelled in the UK due to the ratings board wanting a scene removed and somehow they didn't expect this to sell as well as it has. Lots of people trying to scalp it on ebay ATM to over charge us in the UK. If you're in the US just be patient and it'll go back up.
As many have said the extended version is actually the original theatrical version but was too thought to be to long so was cut down The theatrical version has vast chunks of character development and story line missing. Regarding the delivery problems. I have a theory. With it being not available in the UK all those who would have ordered locally switched to US sellers causing shortages. I ordered mine as soon as I found out and got mine within 3 days of US release.Qualitywise it's not the best 4k but is a lot better than the DVD The blu rays are region free nice bonus
I loved the movie. I got my copy on eBay got 40 dollars. Cheaper on eBay than other sites! The special features are fun to watch!! Including how they made the movie!
I’ll chime in on that the special edition is a much better version of the film, it just feel like the movie it was supposed to be and it explains a lot of the things you mentioned… oh and watch the “under pressure” documentary, it explains why no actors on the movie really wants to talk about it.
The theatrical cut was a travesty! It had no resemblance whatsoever to the book and ruined it for me when seen at cinema. Watch the extended cut to get the full story you won’t regret it! Take if from an old Brit movie fan who has this in my top 5 movies of all time! I’m jealous you’ve got it in the US as the woke idiots over here have banned it! Enjoy and keep up the good work.
The Abyss is my second favorite movie of all time just a little bit behind Heat. You definitely watched the wrong version as others say. You should watch it sooner rather than later and tell us your impressions. As for the Michael Biehn's character and his motivations I really don't understand at all why you are having problems with it. Even in the theatrical edition it's one of the most interesting things of this movie. Your taste in movies is very stange in my opinion Ken lol! It still blows my mind that you seem to like Eraser a little bit more than True Lies but to each his own. The Abyss is the best underwater movie of all time period. I am just glad you didn't say that you prefer Leviathan, Deep Star Six etc over it lol!
So disappointed with Amazon. My pre order Abyss has been pushed back twice and now it's saying end of April. My pre order of Wednesday has been pushed back to almost end of April. I think I'm going to try Walmart now for pre orders.
I’ve seen both cuts. I was in one of the first audiences to see the Director’s Cut. I prefer it. Even though it is 40 minutes longer, it actually seems shorter. Generally, “extended editions” and “director’s cuts” are inferior…but that rule does not apply to Cameron’s films.
I'm probably going to go ahead and order True lies off of Amazon in the next few weeks but I feel like I'll be lucky if I can buy the Abyss in the next month or two. I think you should do a second video with a Director's Cut review. I actually saw the DC for the first time in theaters last December.
It’s a lot better. I prefer the extended cut. Eventually you must see it. when I first saw the extended cut in the theater, my mind was blown. He is he’s also in Dominic and Eugene in a smaller role.
my 4k of all 3 Cameron movies was ordered on Disney Movie Club the week it came outing it arrived the following week, however they sent me a damaged slip covers for Aliens
Ooh yeah I got a small tear on the back right upper corner of my Aliens slipcover, I thought about replacing it but it’s a relatively small tear so opted not do deal with the hassle, besides the front was pristine and didn’t even have a sticker on it. What happened to yours?
This is the last movie of the new Cameron releases that I’m waiting for Amazon to ship. I really hope my copy is without scratches. I ordered the Ghostbusters 1&2 steelbook which had stacked discs. I sent it back twice because of scratches with playback issues and I just ended up getting 1&2 separately in regular cases. I don’t know why in the hell anyone would ship discs this way! Stop being so damn cheap! I’m just crossing my fingers. Thanks for the review. I loved this movie back in the day and I can’t wait to see it on 4k. 👍🏻
I notice that both Sony and Disney have been putting their triple & quad discs in stacked versions now where in the past they've used multi-disc cases with middle disc holders on swivel. I believe the latter that swivel are very prone to damage in shipping and they don't hold the discs very well either. The middle disc tend not to be very secure and bounce around getting scratches all over. I would think the steelbook is better but your experience seems to suggest otherwise.
Ok... you NEED to watch the directors cut and ONLY the directors cut. No, REALLY. The theatrical edition is a completely r*ped version of the movie. The special edition is almost entirely different film, with an actual theme that is completely missing from the blasphemous theatrical edition. I'm sorry but if you're only reviewing the theatrical cut then you really aren't reviewing this movie at all. You'll see what everyone is talking about when you see it.
I think it’s pretty safe to say that you won’t need to wait for Ken’s review to know it’s a worthy sequel. It’s regarded by most as one of the strongest sequels of all time.
I always watch the theatrical version of a movie if it's my first time as well. However, when you get around to watching director's cut of The Abyss, don't be surprised if you find yourself liking it more. But to be honest, The Abyss is not one of my favorite films either way. Maybe a 6 out of 10.
Ken mentioned the 3 disc Abyss coming in a 2 disc case, leading to scratched discs. Would people care if the blu ray copy of the movie was not included? 4K players are cheap enough
You did it wrong. Extended version is the only way to watch The Abyss. Don't watch theatrical version. Extended directors cut is recommended by James Cameron himself. His true vision.
I watched Aliens and didnt think it was bad at all. I am no expert on how its suppost to look but to me it looked good. There were a couple scenes where the skin looks a little off but the space scenes looked amazing. I got Abyss but have not watched it yet.
I think you really haven't seen the film just watched it. Anyway, as someone who read the novelization as well the science is spot on. Bien is suffering from HPNS high pressure nervous syndrome. It's explained as they start the in the compression chamber but he's slowly losing his mind. It makes him more of a tragic villain, not a purely evil one. Again, watch the directors cut and try to watch it for real.
Yea my Aliens 4K disc was scratched and skips. Can’t even copy it. These companies are going downhill fast. Amazon, target, walmart, fed up with all of them
Unfortunately the 4k version is scrubbed of all grain. It doesn't even look like film. And I suspect they did some 60fps on 24fps timeline motion smoothing.
Too bad. The Abyss Special Edition is the only way it all makes sense to me. It doesn’t just expand some characters. It is a completely different film and far superior.
The Special Edition is an entirely OTHER film. The TRUE masterpiece, it's not just some "extended" version. And the only way to truly appreciate what the "Abyss" actually is!
I agree. It's the only Special Edition that I actually see as mandatory. Also important to consider: The Special Edition was released to cinemas in 1993, so it is an official theatrical release.
When I recently watched the theatrical cut I was surprised that it also kind of works however. But the actual emotional impact comes with the Special Edition.
Yes , it adds so much to the film. When I saw it back the 80's I did like it but also felt that something was missing and unresolved. When the SE came out then there it was all answered and complete.
@@mataiguana5 Does the special edition just add stuff? or does it cut out that idiotic demolition derby between the submarines?
Ken, you watched the wrong version dude! We tried to tell ya brother😉... This isn't just some regular extended version. The Special Edition cut IS the version that Cameron intended for audiences to see... not the theatrical cut (which was all hacked up just to allow for more screenings). You missed out on some pretty crucial context/storyline points that completely change the nature of the film's ending (and flesh out the characters more). As so many of us have said, the special edition really is the only version to watch. I wouldn't even watch the theatrical cut when it was available in HD on streaming... that's how significant the difference between the two cuts is. That said, I'm glad to hear you liked it. But I think you would've liked the film much more if you had gone with the special edition cut (which is about 2 hours and 43 minutes before the credits roll).
Agreed. Watch the SE NOW! 😀
Where can you find the extended cut?
@@Mr._AV_Nerd You have to go to the setup in the main menu on the new 4K and then select the "special edition version."
@@Mr._AV_Nerd The disc will start playing in the Theatrical version by default; when it starts hit the Top Menu button on your remote to get the main menu and from there select 1993 Special Edition (its at the bottom).
@@TheOriginalFuzz Does the special edition just add stuff? or does it cut out that idiotic demolition derby between the submarines?
The longer version was cut down so there could be more showings daily in theater. Cameron removed an entire storyline. The director's cut is the one to watch. Mary was also In Scarface.
Think about the fact that the theatrical release is actually missing the big finale !!
I’m so glad to see someone review this who has never seen it. I thought I was the only person left on the planet who hadn’t seen it based on the hype this disc was getting. If it wasn’t for this 4K release I would have gone my entire life without seeing it. Anyway thanks for your honesty and great review as always.
You know you can always count on me to not have seen something. 😂
@@midlevelmedia That’s not true! You’ve seen a shit load more than I have! hahaha
@@simscollectables i was in the same boat, blown away by how good this 4K looks - a movie from 1989 looking like it was filmed yesterday! The movie has it's issues though...
I also watched this for the first time on 4k but I watched the extended edition. I went straight to that version, due to the advice of tons of comments and other YT channels.
I liked it a lot, btw.
I did listen to the commentary on Aliens and James Cameron himself stated that the Special Edition for Aliens and Ext edition of the Abyss is the version that James Cameron wanted to be released but the studio made him cut it down to 2 hours 10 min, so that it could be run in theatres the maximum amount of showings.
Some of those character gaps you mentioned may have been resolved by watching the longer full edition of 2:50.
You should've gone straight for the extended version...
So funny, I have friends coming over to watch The Abyss this very night! Glad to see you loved it!
I saw The Abyss on the big screen and it looked fantastic! I need to watch it again to see about the smoothing faces issue! I will say I suspect they did go back to the camera negative for this movie and it's easily the best of the 4K's but yes not perfect!
Ken, I took a date to see The Abyss in the theater! I did not see the "Director's extended version" until it came to the DVD version. THAT is the BEST.
Getting Aliens and True Lies on Sunday, finally.
Hey Ken, glad you enjoyed it. Without a doubt this is the movie to show how bad a studio can ruin a movie by forcing the film to be shortened for theatrical release. I saw this in the theater and yes it was absolutely incredible to see on the big screen. I loved it right up until the end and it didn’t make any sense and I was actually upset and I would tell people go see it, but walk out five minutes before it ends. When the special edition cut was released on DVD and I think that’s the only way it was released on DVD the movie was instantly transformed from a 6.5 to an 8.5. I guarantee its love over the years is only because of the special edition cut, I think you did the right thing by watching the theatrical cut first although I did recommend in a prior comment to only watch the special edition but listen to me now and watch it right away as you’ll definitely want to comment on how much better the movie is than the theatrical release it’s almost a crime and I also guarantee that you’ll never watch the theatrical cut again. have a great one as always👍
Actually it wasn’t the studio that ruin the movie James Cameron had finally cut on The Abyss for the theatrical release. The studio wanted a 2 hr 15min but he delivered a 2hr 25min cut.
He cut the wave scene cause ILM didn’t have time to finish the effects and also his cut that included the original ending tested poorly when showing pictures of what the wave scene could potentially look like.
It wasn’t till after the success of T2 his company Lightstorm had a $500m deal with 20th Century Fox and in that deal he was allowed to complete The Abyss Special Edition for Laserdisc in 1993. The original crew for ILM came back to recreate the tidal wave scene.
The Director's cut was supposed to be the Theatrical Cut. It is the REAL version. The reason it was not the theatrical version: 1) ILM could not finish the sfx for the finale scene in time for release 2) The Studio wanted a shorter version for more screeinings per day.
Please try and watch the extended to. Makes the film even better and the extra effects are awsome.
I LOVE The Abyss! It's my favorite Cameron movie and I hope I'll eventually be able to get this new version!
You need to see the extended version. It's a better version.
Thankfully, the 4K and the Blu-ray have both versions of the film.
Since seeing the extended cut on dvd, I've never watched the theatrical cut again.
Watched it on a 120” laser tv with an ALR screen… what a slap in the face! Fantastic work from JC, the colors are amazing eapxialy with the aliens, but the sound, OMG! Inside the cargo under water where the action takes place. You can hear each droplets all over you on a Dolby atmos sound system as if you were on set. It’s really bluffing. 10/10 and I really don’t even care about faces too perfect or whatever. That version is giving the movie an eternal life!
It's not being released here in the UK because of the a holes at the BBFC. That's why the price is so high at the moment. People are scalping them like crazy.
I ordered my copy from Amazon US. It's on its way to the UK as i type this. 😊
The Arrival!!!! I would like to see it done in 4k
you sold!!!!!
I picked this up on sunday. Have connections to a culture and music association that runs a local movie theatre, we're gonna have a private screening there 🤩😎
Do watch the Special Edition! It's not just a couple of additional extended scenes, it's a totally different experience. The theatrical cut didn't make much sense, especially as far as the aliens and their true intentions are concerned. The ending is mind blowing and gives the whole movie a deep meaning. I originally saw the theatrical cut in a movie theater and when the end credits started to roll I really asked myself what this was all about. The Special Edition is the one to see. Afterwards, you won't waste any time rewatching the theatrical cut again!
You need to see directors cut for Michael's character
I'm looking forward to seeing it. However in spite of pre ordering it before it came out Amazon tells me my copy could be here anytime between April and May. They really messed up the release. Did they think only 5 people would be interested in a film that really hasn't seen a proper release for 30 years? Crazy.
The special edition is quite different. I saw the original when it came out in theaters and it was good. When I picked up the special laserdisc box set back in 93',which I still have,it raised the film in my eyes quite a bit. The ending alone really changes the mood of the film and there are too many character bits put back in the film to count. The DVD from 2001 was simply a transfer of the laserdisc. So seeing this now should be interesting in spite of Cameron using some wonky AI program for the master when they should be doing step by step with people to really make sure it's great.
Just watched it finally. Other than the disc stopping fairly often, the transfer looks stunning!!
tapped out at 3:20
Watch the extended cut!! The entire point of the movie is missing from the theatrical cut. Seriously, it’s a whole other movie.
I also think this is a great 4K. When I used to watch my DVD and dreamed about watching the movie in a higher resolution I couldn't have dreamed of a better picture. It also helps that we never saw the movie in high resolution in its grittier form. This way this version just feels right, even if the picture probably was altered quite a bit. But it's not the kind of restauration that takes you out of it constantly with ugly filters and such but instead it's very inoffensive and, most importantly, consistent.
Typically, I recommend watching theatrical cuts first, so I won't say you screwed up watching it first. I can't remember if I've watched the theatrical cut since my family rented it on VHS back in 1990, but I thought that was merely *pretty good*. I finally got to watch the Special Edition last week, and it is soooo much better than the theatrical cut! (ETA: I watched the 1080p blu-ray. The "newness" took some getting used to, but I thought it looked great. Most of the above water scenes didn't bother me, it could be a case like what I've heard about the True Lies blu-ray, that those scenes might translate better to 1080p than 4K.)
Fun fact: Leo Burmester, who played "Catfish" De Vries, was from Louisville!
Great review Ken, thanks for sharing your view 👍
I saw the digital version and really enjoyed it. I have the Special Edition DVD. But it's been more than 10 years that I saw this movie.
The atmos is better than some recent productions and I really appreciate the restoration.
I'm getting the disc 100% (as well as Aliens and Titanic)
Hallo The Abyss fans. Just a question. In USA or Europe. Preferably in EU - what languages are there on the discs. 4K and BR.
Thank you for being honest with story . I feel the same way . Visually it’s great but for me overall the movie is enjoyable / average.
Just a note, Ken, but descriptive audio is far from a commentary. It’s an audio track meant for the blind and those with vision challenges. It simply describes what is happening on screen when there isn’t dialogue. It’s much needed for the visually challenged, but again has nothing to do with a commentary.
My only real complaint with The Abyss are the military extras on the boat appear like cartoonish caricatures of what real soldiers would look like.
I can’t EVER imagine watching on DVD again. I do have that DVD and it’s on my “to do” list to get that comparison vid up. Will be “soon….”
But yeah - as so many are saying, watch the special edition. So much more there and you won’t find that “weird middle point” that you found in the theatrical.
Always appreciate your thoughts my brother - glad you finally got this in to experience but be sure to go back one day and watch the way Cameron intended it to be.
I also watch theatrical cuts prior to directors cuts. After watching the special edition version of ‘The Abyss’ I had a much greater appreciation for the film. The docs on my old 2000 DVD also give weight to the sh!t-show the crew went thru to complete the movie. The deeper into the Abyss you go the more appreciation you have for it.
I watched The Abyss on DVD back in the day. Remembered I liked it but didn't realise how great it was
I watched the digital a few months back and was very impressed.
Received 4k a few days ago, and omfg.
Transfer was phenomenal. I like some grain but if Cameron did not think it needed it.. I mean it's Cameron
.Dolby Atmos was the best out there.
I watched special edition and seen theatre version
Watch Special edition. You will never watch theatre version again
A bit like LOTR.
The Abyss is a masterpiece.
Owning 4K disc a must
Directors Cut is the way to go with this story makes more sense and the ending is better
Can't wait to get this on 4k, this was the movie that got me excited about movie sound and eventually home theater! The bass when I first saw it was awesome and truly immersive!!!
Extended version of The Abyss is the one to watch to fully understand everything going on from the beginning sequence through to the end credits. The story is very relevant to today.
It looks great above and below water. This and aliens look amazing.
What’s the word on terminator and part 2?
Terminator is on the way this year. T2 no word.
the shorter version was original distributed to cinemas as it could take more screenings, Cameron had to cut a lot of plot out, but he went back and produced the extended version as he wanted to fill out the film to the version he had intended. A shame you didnt watch it you might have had some more favourable comments. I suggest watch the longer version and do an update to this review. I personally can't go back and watch the theatrical release now I've seen the extended version.
I saw The Abyss in the cinema on release and the 1993 SE is the ONLY way to watch it since it was uodated. The Theatrical cut is vastly inferior. The new 4k disc is great and it's so good to once agin have it on my shelf.
I've pre-ordered The Abyss and it arrives at my doorstep on Thursday next week 👊👊📽
Picture quality is amazing! What is not, is the menu that does not go away when paused and stays on screen for 4 seconds after pressing play. I cannot be the only one who LOATHES discs that they do this to! WHY?????
You are so right. The Abyss is James Cameron's Close Encounters of The Third Kind. The Special Edition is the best way to watch this underrated masterpiece
This is a fantastic movie! You should really check out the Special Edition Mid Level. It really fleshes out the characters and the story itself. One of Cameron's best. Perfect mix of drama, action and romance! I thought the transfer and Atmos track was very well done.
I also ordered it the day it came out and am still waiting for my order to ship. I just got True Lies last week.
I can't wait to watch this in 4K. Love this movie.
Great review buddy. Gotta pick all 3 up. Also, continue to love the monitor image in the background
I wonder if it will go back in stock. The prices are high on eBay
Explain to me why this is suddenly out of print? I had no idea it was a limited edition.
It's not limited, it will restock. It was cancelled in the UK due to the ratings board wanting a scene removed and somehow they didn't expect this to sell as well as it has. Lots of people trying to scalp it on ebay ATM to over charge us in the UK. If you're in the US just be patient and it'll go back up.
@@Skullcandy5282Thanks for that info!
Ken I'm with you completely. Abyss is just waiting for more copies. Only a fool would buy a joke price edition
Pretty much.
As many have said the extended version is actually the original theatrical version but was too thought to be to long so was cut down
The theatrical version has vast chunks of character development and story line missing. Regarding the delivery problems. I have a theory. With it being not available in the UK all those who would have ordered locally switched to US sellers causing shortages. I ordered mine as soon as I found out and got mine within 3 days of US release.Qualitywise it's not the best 4k but is a lot better than the DVD
The blu rays are region free nice bonus
I loved the movie. I got my copy on eBay got 40 dollars. Cheaper on eBay than other sites! The special features are fun to watch!! Including how they made the movie!
You've got ripped off because Orbit DVD have The Abyss, True Lies, and Aliens for $ 25.00.
My copy is scheduled for the first week of April. True Lies arrived last Saturday and Aliens is scheduled to arrive next Monday.
I’ll chime in on that the special edition is a much better version of the film, it just feel like the movie it was supposed to be and it explains a lot of the things you mentioned… oh and watch the “under pressure” documentary, it explains why no actors on the movie really wants to talk about it.
Love The Abyss, in its Special Edition. Preachy as it is, we need to have this message of peace preached to us. I don't have the 4K yet, but I will.
I hope 🤞 that Sanctum gets a 4K release! Kenny bro 😎
The theatrical cut was a travesty! It had no resemblance whatsoever to the book and ruined it for me when seen at cinema. Watch the extended cut to get the full story you won’t regret it! Take if from an old Brit movie fan who has this in my top 5 movies of all time! I’m jealous you’ve got it in the US as the woke idiots over here have banned it! Enjoy and keep up the good work.
The Abyss is my second favorite movie of all time just a little bit behind Heat. You definitely watched the wrong version as others say. You should watch it sooner rather than later and tell us your impressions. As for the Michael Biehn's character and his motivations I really don't understand at all why you are having problems with it. Even in the theatrical edition it's one of the most interesting things of this movie. Your taste in movies is very stange in my opinion Ken lol! It still blows my mind that you seem to like Eraser a little bit more than True Lies but to each his own. The Abyss is the best underwater movie of all time period. I am just glad you didn't say that you prefer Leviathan, Deep Star Six etc over it lol!
So disappointed with Amazon. My pre order Abyss has been pushed back twice and now it's saying end of April. My pre order of Wednesday has been pushed back to almost end of April. I think I'm going to try Walmart now for pre orders.
I’ve seen both cuts. I was in one of the first audiences to see the Director’s Cut. I prefer it. Even though it is 40 minutes longer, it actually seems shorter. Generally, “extended editions” and “director’s cuts” are inferior…but that rule does not apply to Cameron’s films.
Someday my copy will show up hopefully. Amazon now says between Apr 2 - Apr 10.
Yap. For me it will be ultra Epic. I had never saw abyss on DVD only on VHS
I'm still waiting for mine
I'm probably going to go ahead and order True lies off of Amazon in the next few weeks but I feel like I'll be lucky if I can buy the Abyss in the next month or two. I think you should do a second video with a Director's Cut review. I actually saw the DC for the first time in theaters last December.
All four with Titanic are stunning to me. Hope James Cameron doesn’t screw up The Terminator like he did with T-2.
The Super High Definition looks awesome. Can you believe James Cameron will turn age 70 this Summer ?
When considering that he got into professional filmmaking at around 30 I can believe it.
It’s a lot better. I prefer the extended cut. Eventually you must see it. when I first saw the extended cut in the theater, my mind was blown. He is he’s also in Dominic and Eugene in a smaller role.
Abyss and Aliens are stunning.
I prefer Aliens than The Abyss lol 😂 but that’s just me though bro 😎
my 4k of all 3 Cameron movies was ordered on Disney Movie Club the week it came outing it arrived the following week, however they sent me a damaged slip covers for Aliens
Ooh yeah I got a small tear on the back right upper corner of my Aliens slipcover, I thought about replacing it but it’s a relatively small tear so opted not do deal with the hassle, besides the front was pristine and didn’t even have a sticker on it. What happened to yours?
@@JosephReviewsFilm the upper part of the slip with Jim's name looks like it was bent
@@Obenn1 oh that's a bummer
Alan Silvestri (BTTF, Predator) did the music.
Madman 4k collector's set on pre order arrow 🏹 films 🎥 😊
Sucks this isn't coming to the uk.
Red Planet- 4K- Tombstone- 4k
This is the last movie of the new Cameron releases that I’m waiting for Amazon to ship. I really hope my copy is without scratches. I ordered the Ghostbusters 1&2 steelbook which had stacked discs. I sent it back twice because of scratches with playback issues and I just ended up getting 1&2 separately in regular cases. I don’t know why in the hell anyone would ship discs this way! Stop being so damn cheap! I’m just crossing my fingers. Thanks for the review. I loved this movie back in the day and I can’t wait to see it on 4k. 👍🏻
I notice that both Sony and Disney have been putting their triple & quad discs in stacked versions now where in the past they've used multi-disc cases with middle disc holders on swivel. I believe the latter that swivel are very prone to damage in shipping and they don't hold the discs very well either. The middle disc tend not to be very secure and bounce around getting scratches all over. I would think the steelbook is better but your experience seems to suggest otherwise.
Will there be a disk replacement program? My 4K disk was scratched and skipped twice on my player. Other than that, excellent movie
Would love to see this. Amazon Pre-order no where to be found and ebay copies cheapest going for $70. Got to be kidding me
Ken I'm with yopu completely. Abyss is just waiting for more copies. Only a fool would buy a joke price edition
This is the best 4k of the 3. Shame the others don't look the same
Ok... you NEED to watch the directors cut and ONLY the directors cut. No, REALLY. The theatrical edition is a completely r*ped version of the movie. The special edition is almost entirely different film, with an actual theme that is completely missing from the blasphemous theatrical edition. I'm sorry but if you're only reviewing the theatrical cut then you really aren't reviewing this movie at all. You'll see what everyone is talking about when you see it.
I pre-ordered this on Amazon and still haven't gotten it yet.
Us in Uk have to import from america or central europe ...but for me its the special edition all day long!
Euro release has a nicer slipcover, and doesn't stack the discs
I'm a fan of Alien, but I've never seen Aliens. I'm looking forward to your review to see if that is a worthy sequel. Thank you. Happy Easter!
I think it’s pretty safe to say that you won’t need to wait for Ken’s review to know it’s a worthy sequel. It’s regarded by most as one of the strongest sequels of all time.
Jan 2025
hows the shadows ??? too dark too dark in dark areas ???
why not any bluray only seperately from
4k
I always watch the theatrical version of a movie if it's my first time as well. However, when you get around to watching director's cut of The Abyss, don't be surprised if you find yourself liking it more.
But to be honest, The Abyss is not one of my favorite films either way. Maybe a 6 out of 10.
Ken mentioned the 3 disc Abyss coming in a 2 disc case, leading to scratched discs. Would people care if the blu ray copy of the movie was not included? 4K players are cheap enough
You did it wrong. Extended version is the only way to watch The Abyss. Don't watch theatrical version. Extended directors cut is recommended by James Cameron himself. His true vision.
Man you didn’t recognize Mary from Scarface? Lol she was Gina, Tony’s sister, I always remember her from that first
I didn’t till yall brought it up. Guess cause she was a lot younger there where as Robin Hood she was closer in age to The Abyss.
@@midlevelmedia true true
I’m glad this is the one I pre ordered.
Not the theatrical cut :(
I watched Aliens and didnt think it was bad at all. I am no expert on how its suppost to look but to me it looked good. There were a couple scenes where the skin looks a little off but the space scenes looked amazing. I got Abyss but have not watched it yet.
Ken fucked up. But we still love him.
I think you really haven't seen the film just watched it. Anyway, as someone who read the novelization as well the science is spot on. Bien is suffering from HPNS high pressure nervous syndrome. It's explained as they start the in the compression chamber but he's slowly losing his mind. It makes him more of a tragic villain, not a purely evil one. Again, watch the directors cut and try to watch it for real.
Yea my Aliens 4K disc was scratched and skips. Can’t even copy it. These companies are going downhill fast. Amazon, target, walmart, fed up with all of them
Unfortunately the 4k version is scrubbed of all grain. It doesn't even look like film. And I suspect they did some 60fps on 24fps timeline motion smoothing.
Too bad. The Abyss Special Edition is the only way it all makes sense to me. It doesn’t just expand some characters. It is a completely different film and far superior.
The underwater scenes in my opinion are some of the best looking scenes in 4K history. Great Review.
Stocks are being received in a timely basis, don't be scammed guys, just be patient.
that why there is a directors cut duh