Just got back from the range zeroing in my B17 FV and a new scope. Using Hornady XTP 20 grain hollow points, .125 inch groups at 100 yards. One remarkable rifle. And half the cost of my Ruger Precision Rifle, which I am going to sell. Good review, by the way.
Ya got yourself a nice little tack driver I got the ruger and shoots very comparable to the savage thanks for taking time and showing use your nice firearm
Nice rifle. It may be hard with today's climate but if you can find them, give the CCI TNT green lead free a try. My 93R17GV really likes them. I would have never tried them but being in CA and required to hunt with lead free I found out they shoot very well.
Good review. I think that's a pretty good combination for plinking at the range. I like the use of the captions. I use them a lot in my videos for the same reasons.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I do it all the time. We don't necessarily have scripts and reviewing the footage while we are "on set" is not always practical. Sometimes I will shoot multiple takes and use the best one,in case I find something later during editing.
I would be miserable if I didn't, I miss a lot! Lol. It's way more ridged than the Ruger Precision Rimfire stock. I always liked the B25 Mitchell. Thanks for watching!
Im playing around with .17hmr at the moment. Because something is called precision dosnt necessarily make it so. I have come to the conclusion that the limiting factor for the .17hmr is the ammo . Obviously you cant hand load and their is not enough variety around to find a really good fit for your rifle. The problem with the HMR as a cartridge's is (my theory) is because its so small its very sensitive to variations in the manufacturing process. Although I have also got good results from the CCI ammo. Seems a bit counterintuitive but the breeze effects the .17 HMR much less than the .22 or .22magnum so maybe thats not the reason for the bigger groups
As far as match grade ammo, you are limited to what's on the shelves. I do have a .17 hornet and it is center fire so precision loads can be made for it. The nice thing about .17HMR is that people without the time and equipment to develop the ideal hand load for their rifle, are on the same playing field as those that do.
Awesome shooting! Got myself the same gun, but had bad luck with the ammo. Winchester 17gr was the worst, with ripped cases after firing and groups about the size of the whole stupid target. Hornady 17gr did a little better, but still way to big groups. The Hornady 20gr hollow point ist best yet, but still too big groups. Coould you recommend some ammo? Or is my rifle that bad? Have sent it back already and they worked on it, but I don´t trust it yet
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview well, I guess I got some bad packages and my buddy too, but he is shooting a Ruger RPR. Seems like I have to go the trial and error way, but thank you for the reply👍🏼
My bad. I was thinking the .17 BMag instead of the B17. Two different rifles one is .17HMR the BMag is .17WSM. You threw me off when you said your buddy was shooting the Ruger RPR! I have shot a few different .17HMR rounds and have also had a lot of split cases, but like my 17WSM rounds, they are older ones too. I've had a lot of luck with the Hornady. I've heard most of the splitting happened with the older ammo stock. I would still do the trial and error way, you may find your rifle likes a certain brand over another. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for watching!@@joshhuntde
@SmallCaliberArmsReview thank you very much! Didn't think through it all the way when I first bought this rimfire rifle, so now I gotta live with it😂 for the future I am going to distance myself from buying more rimfire, even won't shoot this one that much if I won't find the ammo holding up to my expectations. Hope I didn't bother you with this little rant😅
Hi Richard! I also work with this caliber, among other rimfires such as .22lr and have shot for groups off of about every kind of surface and rest that you can think of over 50+ years. Watching this video, the first thing that caught my attention is the type of rest that you're using. I'm not trying to be some kind of expert here, giving you "expert" advice, but I have struggled with similar rests myself and shooting very accurate rifles on them, they wouldn't shoot to their inherent potential on these types of rests with any consistency, in my own experience... Have you tried other more vibration absorbing types of rests? Also, I have been using the Vortex Tactical scopes on many of my rimfire rifles for field shooting and informal target shooting from the time they came out with the first Tactical model in the 3-9x version and have had nothing but great performance from all of them. The latest addition is their 4-16x44 30mm Tactical that I put on a CZ 457 MTR. It is performing extremely well! I just thought that getting your views on these scopes would be interesting. I don't use mine for competition, just staying in good shooting shape during the off season and keeping my rifle skills up to snuff. Thanks for an informative video my friend!
I think the best rest I've ever used were some home made sand bags. No vibration and extremely steady. I love Vortex scopes but the cost can add up pretty quickly when you have multiple rifles to equip. I think this one is the only "tactical" version I have. I'm not a competition shooter and don't consider myself an expert by any means. I just like shooting and on occasion, I like to attempt some precision stuff. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching too!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I have a collection of "pant leg" sand bags that I pack around in my rig! :) But recently picked up a Caldwell Rock BR to try out. Had to switch out the bag on it for a good leather model that better fits the fore end of most of my rifles though... As long as we enjoy what we are doing and passing along some good will, some good information and doing what we can for the sport, that is all that matters! Keep up the good work my friend! Thank you for the timely reply.
I have found 17HMR to be superbly accurate and devastating on small game, great round overall
Yes! It really does a number on groundhogs! If you like the .17HMR, you should take a look at the .17 Hornet. Thanks for watching!
The two bullets that I have found to be very accurate are the Hornady 20 gr XTP. And the 15.5 gr NTX shoots fantastic.
Thanks, I'll have to give those a try!
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Just got back from the range zeroing in my B17 FV and a new scope. Using Hornady XTP 20 grain hollow points, .125 inch groups at 100 yards. One remarkable rifle. And half the cost of my Ruger Precision Rifle, which I am going to sell. Good review, by the way.
That's phenomenal! I think I like it better than the Ruger precision myself. Thank you for watching!
What is the exact model B17 that shot the Hornady 20gr XTPs well?
the FV has a 21" barrel and the Precision has an 18" barrel. How does barrel length affect the outcome?
Cool video, I like the idea of a .17 hmr precision rifle for messing around at the range
I just don't have the space to do some big caliber, long distance, precision shooting. This just scales it down a bit. Thanks for watching!
Very nice, that Savage. Looks like a nail driver.
I think it is! Thanks Santee!
Ya got yourself a nice little tack driver I got the ruger and shoots very comparable to the savage thanks for taking time and showing use your nice firearm
Thank you very much for watching!
Nice rifle. It may be hard with today's climate but if you can find them, give the CCI TNT green lead free a try. My 93R17GV really likes them. I would have never tried them but being in CA and required to hunt with lead free I found out they shoot very well.
I've seen them before but never tried them, I'll pick some up the next time I find them. Thanks for watching!
Good review. I think that's a pretty good combination for plinking at the range. I like the use of the captions. I use them a lot in my videos for the same reasons.
I hate when I'm editing and realize I said something wrong, it's a last ditch effort to correct my mistakes sometimes. Thanks for watching Squib!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I do it all the time. We don't necessarily have scripts and reviewing the footage while we are "on set" is not always practical. Sometimes I will shoot multiple takes and use the best one,in case I find something later during editing.
@@Squib1911 same here!
Nice little rifle Richard & a great intro to the video ! Great work 👍
Thanks Shane, I tried to change it up a little!
Nice review!
Glad you enjoyed it
Awesome review
Glad you enjoyed it, thank you for watching!
Nice To know you have a sense of humor when ya miss , love the stock, ... B17 Famous WW2 bomber
I would be miserable if I didn't, I miss a lot! Lol. It's way more ridged than the Ruger Precision Rimfire stock. I always liked the B25 Mitchell. Thanks for watching!
Im playing around with .17hmr at the moment. Because something is called precision dosnt necessarily make it so. I have come to the conclusion that the limiting factor for the .17hmr is the ammo . Obviously you cant hand load and their is not enough variety around to find a really good fit for your rifle. The problem with the HMR as a cartridge's is (my theory) is because its so small its very sensitive to variations in the manufacturing process. Although I have also got good results from the CCI ammo.
Seems a bit counterintuitive but the breeze effects the .17 HMR much less than the .22 or .22magnum so maybe thats not the reason for the bigger groups
As far as match grade ammo, you are limited to what's on the shelves. I do have a .17 hornet and it is center fire so precision loads can be made for it. The nice thing about .17HMR is that people without the time and equipment to develop the ideal hand load for their rifle, are on the same playing field as those that do.
Awesome shooting! Got myself the same gun, but had bad luck with the ammo. Winchester 17gr was the worst, with ripped cases after firing and groups about the size of the whole stupid target. Hornady 17gr did a little better, but still way to big groups. The Hornady 20gr hollow point ist best yet, but still too big groups. Coould you recommend some ammo? Or is my rifle that bad? Have sent it back already and they worked on it, but I don´t trust it yet
The only ammo I've ever ran in it was the Winchester and the American Eagle by Federal.
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview well, I guess I got some bad packages and my buddy too, but he is shooting a Ruger RPR. Seems like I have to go the trial and error way, but thank you for the reply👍🏼
My bad. I was thinking the .17 BMag instead of the B17. Two different rifles one is .17HMR the BMag is .17WSM. You threw me off when you said your buddy was shooting the Ruger RPR! I have shot a few different .17HMR rounds and have also had a lot of split cases, but like my 17WSM rounds, they are older ones too. I've had a lot of luck with the Hornady. I've heard most of the splitting happened with the older ammo stock. I would still do the trial and error way, you may find your rifle likes a certain brand over another. Sorry for the confusion and thanks for watching!@@joshhuntde
@SmallCaliberArmsReview thank you very much! Didn't think through it all the way when I first bought this rimfire rifle, so now I gotta live with it😂 for the future I am going to distance myself from buying more rimfire, even won't shoot this one that much if I won't find the ammo holding up to my expectations. Hope I didn't bother you with this little rant😅
Nope, you're comments are welcome. I wouldn't give up on rimfire, they're a lot of fun for the money.
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Hi Richard! I also work with this caliber, among other rimfires such as .22lr and have shot for groups off of about every kind of surface and rest that you can think of over 50+ years.
Watching this video, the first thing that caught my attention is the type of rest that you're using. I'm not trying to be some kind of expert here, giving you "expert" advice, but I have struggled with similar rests myself and shooting very accurate rifles on them, they wouldn't shoot to their inherent potential on these types of rests with any consistency, in my own experience... Have you tried other more vibration absorbing types of rests?
Also, I have been using the Vortex Tactical scopes on many of my rimfire rifles for field shooting and informal target shooting from the time they came out with the first Tactical model in the 3-9x version and have had nothing but great performance from all of them. The latest addition is their 4-16x44 30mm Tactical that I put on a CZ 457 MTR. It is performing extremely well! I just thought that getting your views on these scopes would be interesting. I don't use mine for competition, just staying in good shooting shape during the off season and keeping my rifle skills up to snuff.
Thanks for an informative video my friend!
I think the best rest I've ever used were some home made sand bags. No vibration and extremely steady. I love Vortex scopes but the cost can add up pretty quickly when you have multiple rifles to equip. I think this one is the only "tactical" version I have. I'm not a competition shooter and don't consider myself an expert by any means. I just like shooting and on occasion, I like to attempt some precision stuff.
Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching too!
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview I have a collection of "pant leg" sand bags that I pack around in my rig! :) But recently picked up a Caldwell Rock BR to try out. Had to switch out the bag on it for a good leather model that better fits the fore end of most of my rifles though... As long as we enjoy what we are doing and passing along some good will, some good information and doing what we can for the sport, that is all that matters! Keep up the good work my friend! Thank you for the timely reply.
@@rt66rc86 I might have to do up a couple "pant leg" bags myself. I try my best and encourage all that I can. Thanks again!
Another good one Richard. How does it compare to the Ruger Precision Rimfire? JimE
I think I like this one better! The trigger is fantastic!
It is better and a lot lighter than my Ruger Precision Rimfire
@@SmallCaliberArmsReview Thanks for the video. How does the accuracy compare (to the Ruger Precision), or is it too close to call?
@@DeadlyLemming I'm no professional marksman but I'd say they're real similar. I think the trigger is better on the Savage though.
Mine came in today
Get out and enjoy some range time! Be safe and have fun!
I want one
You might actually be able to find these in the stores currently. Thanks for watching!
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Thanks!