Metal shmetal, Killing Joke were spawned by the punk scene, but created their own tribal, high energy, intelligent rock. They are their own genre in my opinion, just enjoy em.
A plain reasonable and realistic guy. I like his awareness. He's very good in explaining how stupid commercial liveaid actually is... the money didn't go directly to the people.
Thankfully Killing Joke don't really fit into a single pigeon hole musically, be it post-punk, metal, industrial or whatever. This is one of the things that I've always found refreshing about them. Their just a good fucking band and one of the most important ones of the last 30 years or so (and Jaz hates fucking Bono too, nice one fella).
He's SO wise. He really understands the world in SUCH a profound way. I suppose spending your entire adult life without ever doing a day's work outside of travelling, doing the soundcheck, drinking the rider and regurgitating stats you read in magazines has lead Jaz to such a heightened state of awareness. Like Bono.
Wow, he's read Carol Quigley's tragedy and hope in modern times! The 1st edition is the one to go for before everything was edited. Still, it is a great read. Carol Quigley was the librarian for the 12 banking families and they commissioned him to write a book of their history. The first 25000 copies sold out within 3 days! When Quigley asked his publisher what had happened he was told the book was a resounding failure! It was grudingly put out as a 2nd edition after the alterations. Anyway, all that aside Coleman is right this is a must read and these are the guys who are never mentioned on the internet. You can even try and search for their names but it won't come out! They are behind the Vatican, the Monarchy and all royal families and of course behind the so-called Jewish/zioniest cartel. Their history is the history you're never taught in school and the only other person to delve into them have been Dr Lana Corrine Cantrell who has been on the run ever since and wrote the greatest story never told. The other ones are jenny and Sterling Seagrave who wrote about the banking families influence in the East and the part this played in the world wars and why japan was nuked even after they surrendered.
I live in Wales and Iam not alone in realising that the authorities are cutting down whole forests and why? They give us some lame excuse that it is due to some disease affecting the trees!
Consistently doesn't mean every year,does it? I'm not sure if the reunion is cashing in. In a practical way:they lost a hell of a bassplayer and they seem to have put aside their differences with Big Paul. So what's your reason for believing they're cashing in?
Surely anyone accusing Jaz/Killing Joke of cashing in would point at them allowing their songs to be used in video games. I know "The death and resurrection show" was used on one and I believe "Turn to red" was also used for is it Grand auto theft? I would genuinely like to hear Jaz explain why he agreed to this. If he is doing it because he wants to do something positive with the money, like setting up an eco village, then fair enough. It's just that like Jaz, I have a very suspicious nature!
That's exactly the question I've been asking myself; Where did a bankrupt Nazi Germany find the resources to start a world war? Funny, but I don't ever remember seeing a single programme on the TV that attempted to answer that question. In fact, I don't even recall the question being asked! I think it might make for a very interesting and enlightening film but no, what we really need is another film about the holocaust!
He sings about them😆.... 'panopticon' lyrics: Self censorship, self policing Shaping human behaviour Computer games, low attention span Distractions for the servile brain Inside the panopticon You don't have to have your phone on All behaviour calibrated from bulk metadata Weishaupt comes alive The all seeing eye All your habits, all your movements All your sexual preferences All your colleagues, all your friendships How often you take a shit All your debts, all your bets All your hopes and fears are known Consolidation in every nation The great work is nearly done Weishaupt comes alive The all seeing eye Everything is known, health and your loans All privacy gone in the panopticon Everything is known, health and your loans All privacy gone in the panopticon Retaining bulk metadata to be held against you The elitist leanings of man appealed to by corporations Diminishing expectations can be seen in every nation Many tongues, one voice The great work of age has come Weishaupt comes alive The all seeing eye Everything is known, health and your loans All privacy gone in the panopticon
I think it's more to do with them getting older and realising they won't be able to do this for much longer. Yes, being able to play together again after so many years must be a fantastic buzz but I'm sure the paycheck doesn't hurt either.
@COwens i agree with Fancyjoke. remember this was back in 05 and Ferguson didn't come back till 08. and Youth has been back with them since 93 and he was of the main to bring them back in 02. he and Raven both contributed on their 03 album and Youth decided to let Raven do all of Hosannas, which was selfless of him. it is unfortunate that Raven died in 07 and Youth and Ferguson came back the next year in his honor.
I'd say the majority of cities pumps shit into the ocean. Way to many people treat the sea as a dump,that's the basic idea behind his statement I believe.
@sicomatt123 : It does not mean KJ are metal because they inspired certain metalbands. Agreed,they have some elements in their sound,but there are much more elements present than only metal. For instance take their debut album (1980) is that metal?No.It is so much more than just one stream or sound,that seems to be what KJ is all about : not to be pigeonholed.
Hehehehe, only Jaz could get away with calling Bob Geldof a sociopath! A lot of people decry him as a nutter and don't like what he says. However, I think he speaks an uncomfortable truth that we could all benefit from listening to, taking heed and making the very necessary changes. However, it might make your comfortable little life somewhat less so.
'Consistently doesn't mean every year,does it?' Nor does it mean seven years. 'So what's your reason for believing they're cashing in?' What sells better: Killing Joke on new album tour or original lineup playing selected classic albums in their entirity? If you read my comment, you'll see that I'm just as excited about the gigs as the next Gatherer. But when he dismisses reunions in a manner displayed in this interview, it does leave a bit of a sour taste. Remember Gems of Power?
@Fancyjoke thay are one of the calm grater creaters of metal thay have donea gental side of most subjanres of metal thay inspird a lot of metal bands so to say there nt propper metal is rong disids u carnt difin the gap
@MisAnnThorpe Hell,you have to make a living,right? I would do the same in his position I suppose. Selling out would be to play what people want to hear,they are not doing that imo. Agreeing to use a track for a game generates money,they might use that for some reason,no idea where it goes and all,stuff to do with royalties. Let's see some ecovillages then,and clue where they are? Any photos yet? I don't agree on all his speeches,but there is an element of honesty I respect.
@Fancyjoke Actually, limiting population growth will help hugely. the human population of the planet grows yearly because we deny natural selection, the ill and in-firmed dont die, those babies born premature or deformed, dont die and people are living longer and longer. It won't solve it all but it would help. the "benefits society" has seen unemployed youngsters having two or three babies just so they can reap the tax paid benefits.
@Studas2006 In all honesty it doesn't work...everyone has their own taste in music and as a lifelong gamer of the best part of thirty years I can happily state that if I don't like the music in a game I go into the options, turn it off and put my own on via other means, even in games with mixed soundtrack I will skip the stuff I simply dont like and listen to the songs I do enjoy.
"I don't believe in our system of Democracy. Its a two horse race, and both horses are run by the same stable owner" No kidding. Civilisation is about having a stable ruling regime, not revolution between extremes every 4 years. Not to say change doesn't happen, just not frequently. Americans are basically in their 3rd social contract, the New Deal one being the latest, and the quasi-libertarian original and the Lincoln era being the others.
Sadly KIlling Joke are a Tavis stock created band like the beatles and so many more. If you know what I mean you know. I really like the music but I know what it is. A way to promote Crowley
@opensourcethong Don't b so naive! Yes, there no doubt are exceptions 2 the rule, like Roger Daltrey perhaps, who craves the adulation of an audience but do u really think Keith Richards would rather b sharing a stage with Jagger, playing "Brown sugar" again, than at home listening to his favourite blues & classical records? Charlie Watts has spoken quite openly about what a chore it is for him, playing drums in a rock band. These people choose a certain lifestyle & to maintain that costs money.
All this "selling out" stuff. If you sell your music for profit, you've sold out. So why wouldn't an artist want thier music to be heard across many different platforms? If it is played on the radio that is somehow different? It's not.
There are degrees of it though and let's face it the music companies always scammed musicans left right and centre. I suspect Killing joke have more autonomy than most but I don't know the ins and outs.
@windmoveswater : I think it has got nothing to do with overpopulation,just the basic "let's get out of here".Stop having babies is not gonna solve the problem,mate. It's how the babies are going to think or behave!
@Fancyjoke Are you implying that you have doubts as to the existence of the eco village Mr Coleman claims to have set up?! Jaz really is one difficult man to pin down. Almost everything about him seems a contradiction, from his music to his political beliefs. I sometimes wonder if he isn't just taking us all for a bunch of mugs and pissing himself laughing at the killing joke he's been playing on us all!
Jaz - fantastic vocalist, lyricist and frontman for possibly the greatest band of all time. But he is full of shit: 'putting out records consistently since 79'. Does a seven year gap count as consistent? Re. bands reforming: what about the reunion with Paul and Youth. Fantastic to see and I can't wait, but it does smack of cashing in.
why does he need a reason,or to explain that reason to you in the first place? you know if he actually started to give a shit if you called him a sellout,that he's actually BE a sellout right?
Metal shmetal, Killing Joke were spawned by the punk scene, but created their own tribal, high energy, intelligent rock. They are their own genre in my opinion, just enjoy em.
facts the worst day of my life was when I saw metallica covered their song on that album. KJ is maybe one of the bands I'll still kind of respect
man that laugh,soo good.keep preaching jaz.were listening
Gotta love him!
He's so honest
great legend and he is a very smart man
Jaz seems quite down to earth about his success, and he's from my hometown! (Cheltenham)
A plain reasonable and realistic guy. I like his awareness.
He's very good in explaining how stupid commercial liveaid actually is... the money didn't go directly to the people.
jazz is awesome!!
Thankfully Killing Joke don't really fit into a single pigeon hole musically, be it post-punk, metal, industrial or whatever. This is one of the things that I've always found refreshing about them. Their just a good fucking band and one of the most important ones of the last 30 years or so (and Jaz hates fucking Bono too, nice one fella).
I love his laugh
He's SO wise. He really understands the world in SUCH a profound way. I suppose spending your entire adult life without ever doing a day's work outside of travelling, doing the soundcheck, drinking the rider and regurgitating stats you read in magazines has lead Jaz to such a heightened state of awareness. Like Bono.
You are such a good little slave bot did your master give you a cookie for this comment
Couldn't be more relevant....than now. 07232023 Thanks KJ & Jaz!
Wow, he's read Carol Quigley's tragedy and hope in modern times! The 1st edition is the one to go for before everything was edited. Still, it is a great read. Carol Quigley was the librarian for the 12 banking families and they commissioned him to write a book of their history. The first 25000 copies sold out within 3 days! When Quigley asked his publisher what had happened he was told the book was a resounding failure! It was grudingly put out as a 2nd edition after the alterations. Anyway, all that aside Coleman is right this is a must read and these are the guys who are never mentioned on the internet. You can even try and search for their names but it won't come out! They are behind the Vatican, the Monarchy and all royal families and of course behind the so-called Jewish/zioniest cartel. Their history is the history you're never taught in school and the only other person to delve into them have been Dr Lana Corrine Cantrell who has been on the run ever since and wrote the greatest story never told. The other ones are jenny and Sterling Seagrave who wrote about the banking families influence in the East and the part this played in the world wars and why japan was nuked even after they surrendered.
the most interesting and flawed enigma on youtube!..god bless Jaz!
Bono really makes my blood boil!
I love how he's wearing his band's t-shirt.
"Charity begins at home."
Nice to finally hear someone else say that.
the interviewer keeps trying to finish his sentances, all these "yea"s and "mm"s, just let the man talk :P
This tripper is Jaz, and he can smoke and say whatever he pleases.
I went to V2 3003 Jaz, with 4 others , I only went just to you lads, great gig
let's go to Iceland
I live in Wales and Iam not alone in realising that the authorities are cutting down whole forests and why? They give us some lame excuse that it is due to some disease affecting the trees!
🤘We don't inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children and our children's children!"
Native American proverb. 🎵🔑
Consistently doesn't mean every year,does it?
I'm not sure if the reunion is cashing in.
In a practical way:they lost a hell of a bassplayer and they seem to have put aside their differences with Big Paul.
So what's your reason for believing they're cashing in?
Surely anyone accusing Jaz/Killing Joke of cashing in would point at them allowing their songs to be used in video games. I know "The death and resurrection show" was used on one and I believe "Turn to red" was also used for is it Grand auto theft? I would genuinely like to hear Jaz explain why he agreed to this. If he is doing it because he wants to do something positive with the money, like setting up an eco village, then fair enough. It's just that like Jaz, I have a very suspicious nature!
That's exactly the question I've been asking myself; Where did a bankrupt Nazi Germany find the resources to start a world war? Funny, but I don't ever remember seeing a single programme on the TV that attempted to answer that question. In fact, I don't even recall the question being asked! I think it might make for a very interesting and enlightening film but no, what we really need is another film about the holocaust!
Visionary man. I'm surprised he doesn't comment on the latest obsession with illuminati conspiracy theories.
He sings about them😆.... 'panopticon' lyrics:
Self censorship, self policing
Shaping human behaviour
Computer games, low attention span
Distractions for the servile brain
Inside the panopticon
You don't have to have your phone on
All behaviour calibrated from bulk metadata
Weishaupt comes alive
The all seeing eye
All your habits, all your movements
All your sexual preferences
All your colleagues, all your friendships
How often you take a shit
All your debts, all your bets
All your hopes and fears are known
Consolidation in every nation
The great work is nearly done
Weishaupt comes alive
The all seeing eye
Everything is known, health and your loans
All privacy gone in the panopticon
Everything is known, health and your loans
All privacy gone in the panopticon
Retaining bulk metadata to be held against you
The elitist leanings of man appealed to by corporations
Diminishing expectations can be seen in every nation
Many tongues, one voice
The great work of age has come
Weishaupt comes alive
The all seeing eye
Everything is known, health and your loans
All privacy gone in the panopticon
I think it's more to do with them getting older and realising they won't be able to do this for much longer. Yes, being able to play together again after so many years must be a fantastic buzz but I'm sure the paycheck doesn't hurt either.
@COwens i agree with Fancyjoke. remember this was back in 05 and Ferguson didn't come back till 08. and Youth has been back with them since 93 and he was of the main to bring them back in 02. he and Raven both contributed on their 03 album and Youth decided to let Raven do all of Hosannas, which was selfless of him. it is unfortunate that Raven died in 07 and Youth and Ferguson came back the next year in his honor.
this interview is hilarious
unintentionally
I'd say the majority of cities pumps shit into the ocean.
Way to many people treat the sea as a dump,that's the basic idea behind his statement I believe.
@sicomatt123 : It does not mean KJ are metal because they inspired certain metalbands.
Agreed,they have some elements in their sound,but there are much more elements present than only metal.
For instance take their debut album (1980) is that metal?No.It is so much more than just one stream or sound,that seems to be what KJ is all about : not to be pigeonholed.
Hehehehe, only Jaz could get away with calling Bob Geldof a sociopath! A lot of people decry him as a nutter and don't like what he says. However, I think he speaks an uncomfortable truth that we could all benefit from listening to, taking heed and making the very necessary changes. However, it might make your comfortable little life somewhat less so.
Hey, stop fighting, LUUURVE each other instead, ok?
I'm sure Jaz wouldn't mind you fighting his battles on his behalf on this occasion. Carry on!
@Sashphoenix Very well said.
"consistently" means a few albums every decade in the music business.
@COwens Well said my friend!
'Consistently doesn't mean every year,does it?'
Nor does it mean seven years.
'So what's your reason for believing they're cashing in?'
What sells better: Killing Joke on new album tour or original lineup playing selected classic albums in their entirity?
If you read my comment, you'll see that I'm just as excited about the gigs as the next Gatherer. But when he dismisses reunions in a manner displayed in this interview, it does leave a bit of a sour taste. Remember Gems of Power?
What's Gems of Power? What happened?
@Fancyjoke thay are one of the calm grater creaters of metal thay have donea gental side of most subjanres of metal thay inspird a lot of metal bands so to say there nt propper metal is rong disids u carnt difin the gap
@MisAnnThorpe
Hell,you have to make a living,right?
I would do the same in his position I suppose.
Selling out would be to play what people want to hear,they are not doing that imo.
Agreeing to use a track for a game generates money,they might use that for some reason,no idea where it goes and all,stuff to do with royalties.
Let's see some ecovillages then,and clue where they are?
Any photos yet?
I don't agree on all his speeches,but there is an element of honesty I respect.
Jaz, will you be my new dad?
HA!
I'm surprised that Jaz never mentioned Peaches's connection with the OTO.
yes me also
I'm not surprised He doesn't. Shhhhhh!
@Fancyjoke Actually, limiting population growth will help hugely. the human population of the planet grows yearly because we deny natural selection, the ill and in-firmed dont die, those babies born premature or deformed, dont die and people are living longer and longer. It won't solve it all but it would help. the "benefits society" has seen unemployed youngsters having two or three babies just so they can reap the tax paid benefits.
@Studas2006 In all honesty it doesn't work...everyone has their own taste in music and as a lifelong gamer of the best part of thirty years I can happily state that if I don't like the music in a game I go into the options, turn it off and put my own on via other means, even in games with mixed soundtrack I will skip the stuff I simply dont like and listen to the songs I do enjoy.
Smoking gives him that voice
"I don't believe in our system of Democracy. Its a two horse race, and both horses are run by the same stable owner"
No kidding. Civilisation is about having a stable ruling regime, not revolution between extremes every 4 years.
Not to say change doesn't happen, just not frequently. Americans are basically in their 3rd social contract, the New Deal one being the latest, and the quasi-libertarian original and the Lincoln era being the others.
Sadly KIlling Joke are a Tavis stock created band like the beatles and so many more. If you know what I mean you know. I really like the music but I know what it is. A way to promote Crowley
@windmoveswater there are condoms and other contraceptives, you know. but otherwise, yeah it is how they behave, and it's also where they're born.
@opensourcethong Don't b so naive! Yes, there no doubt are exceptions 2 the rule, like Roger Daltrey perhaps, who craves the adulation of an audience but do u really think Keith Richards would rather b sharing a stage with Jagger, playing "Brown sugar" again, than at home listening to his favourite blues & classical records? Charlie Watts has spoken quite openly about what a chore it is for him, playing drums in a rock band. These people choose a certain lifestyle & to maintain that costs money.
Tell me where he's wrong. I dare you.
He likes himself a bit too much in this video, not in others.
Big business,the real crooks.
All this "selling out" stuff. If you sell your music for profit, you've sold out. So why wouldn't an artist want thier music to be heard across many different platforms? If it is played on the radio that is somehow different? It's not.
There are degrees of it though and let's face it the music companies always scammed musicans left right and centre. I suspect Killing joke have more autonomy than most but I don't know the ins and outs.
Jaz hates U2 also, YES!
I hate U2, Love Yes, and love Killing Joke. Where does that leave me?
@windmoveswater :
I think it has got nothing to do with overpopulation,just the basic "let's get out of here".Stop having babies is not gonna solve the problem,mate.
It's how the babies are going to think or behave!
|I love him and adore wht he says, but he sits there smoking a cigar, saying all that,
@Fancyjoke Are you implying that you have doubts as to the existence of the eco village Mr Coleman claims to have set up?! Jaz really is one difficult man to pin down. Almost everything about him seems a contradiction, from his music to his political beliefs. I sometimes wonder if he isn't just taking us all for a bunch of mugs and pissing himself laughing at the killing joke he's been playing on us all!
@RandyWayneFricke weed is greener hahah
stop pollution?... while smoking a cigar? who is this tripper?
Oh god, hahaha! Sociopath!
Hahaha.
What a gem Jaz is.....
Jaz - fantastic vocalist, lyricist and frontman for possibly the greatest band of all time.
But he is full of shit: 'putting out records consistently since 79'. Does a seven year gap count as consistent?
Re. bands reforming: what about the reunion with Paul and Youth. Fantastic to see and I can't wait, but it does smack of cashing in.
why does he need a reason,or to explain that reason to you in the first place? you know if he actually started to give a shit if you called him a sellout,that he's actually BE a sellout right?
I do not think they are a metalband at all,they are not to define,elements of of rock styles,sure,but not a metal band.