Again, I can't tell you enough how valuable it is to see a fellow left handed player give advice where i dont need to mirror it in my head. Watching you demonstrate and explain in detail is so helpful
@@tanner.pickleball Kali plays in her second tournament this weekend in Orlando. I will update the post with results! She is doing women’s 3.0 doubles and singles
Amazing. I am a "weak" 4.6 primarily b/c my BH Flick forever has been always below avg (but has low errors and I can still keep 'em back and deep). But this vid has changed my game - u cite so many strong technical points that it has literally changed my game over nite after not being able to consistently solve my BH Flick issue for almost a year now! It's now slightly above Avg and will soon be an elite weapon - 5.0 here i come - well done...thank you Tanner!
Thanks and great question! I would have to make a separate video since it’s a long winded answer. In short.. the roll is for when the ball is low and your opponent is far back. You wouldn’t attack with a roll for the most part. You attack with a flick and roll to keep them back!
I would intuitively agree with this but in BJ’s signature cross court dink -> backhand roll down the line, he uses it as an attack against the player across from him standing at the kitchen line. In fact, he has a video about this on his channel. What are your thoughts given that?
A strong backhand flick(and roll) make me feel like a superhero against intermediate players, almost none of them can do it and its steep downward trajectory(and topspin) makes it hard for them to defend without a popup
Such great teaching vids Tanner ! I would save my pennies to take part ( coming from Canada) in a week long course with you. Any chance you are holding such clinics in the future?
Good question!! I personally have no had any elbow injuries, but it is good to never over train anything. I would say a MAX of 20 serves before taking a break.
Great video dude! Will be hopping on the news letter soon. Love the self promotion mid video and keeping things quick and snappy! You're going to blow up as pickleball continues to become a larger and larger sport. ❤
Tanner, bankhand roll and handhand flick are different shots but the situations that you hit them are similar. Does your brain default to back hand flick and you do that shot a high percentage of the time vs the roll?
Only roll when the ball is super low and the opponent is not a threat, you're doing this to keep them back. I prefer the flick as often as possible since it is more brute force :)
Hey man! Amazing video as always thank you. Question tho: I take lessons from a top player and he had some contradicting advice. He said that he doesnt like to flick when the opponent is at the baseline, only when they are at the net. Instead he recommended what he called a "roll", which he demonstrated as extending your arm out all the way, keeping the paddle head parallel to the ground, locking the wrist and making an upwards motion hinging from the shoulder. He said this is better because its more consistent and accurate. Have you heard of this strategy and what are your thoughts on it? Thanks again!
Hey, yes I see what he's saying! I use the flick if the ball if "flickable" meaning its high enough. If it is super low, I will roll it back when the opponent are back near the baseline!
@@tanner.pickleball I practice in rec play but all my flicks are just going straight up and then it’s too high so they are going out. I don’t understand the concept of you can take balls low to the net
@@simthai173 The backhand roll is even more challenging. You can find Ben Johns' demonstration of it. He has a video on the difference as well. A roll uses the same grip (eastern), but will start from your shins or knees. You will essentially lift your arm from closer to the body and go diagonally outward and upward finishing around shoulder height or higher brushing up against the back of the ball. It uses no wrist (as compared to a flick). When performed correctly, it will arch from below the net and over it with heavy top-spin. It's used far less as it requires exceptional timing. While you can flick without top-spin, when flicking with an eastern grip and making sure that you're behind the ball, a flick can have some pretty heavy top-spin as well as demonstrated by some of Tanner's instances here.
No it’s not! Upside down forces you to cock your wrist the exact same way for the flick. Right side up, there is no wrist tension. I promise, I know what I’m talking about 🤣🤣
@@tanner.pickleball I also know what I’m talking about, I’m an ultimate frisbee player. And the motion you’re showing is just a regular frisbee throw. If you’re not cocking your wrist exactly as you show for a right side up frisbee throw, there’s no way you’re getting the whip you need. And curling your fingers under the lip of the disc is what gets your wrist cocked in the way you’re showing. I have a suspicion we’re describing the same thing but you’re seeing it as “upside down” for some reason from your perspective. Do you mean the disc is actually inverted? The curled lip is facing the sky and the top of the disc is facing the ground? There’s not a lot of reasons to throw a disc like that in the first place.
@@douglasmurdoch7247 Ok fair enough, if you play frisbee, you have me beat. I suppose my form is wrong! I will grab as frisbee and check out exactly what I mean!
@@tanner.pickleball frisbee aside, I recommend your channel to everyone I play with. I can’t wait to keep telling people that I’ve been following you since the beginning 💪😎
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So good!! I love how you demonstrate a comparison of both what you’re teaching vs. what it looks like without the flick.
Thanks so much!
Again, I can't tell you enough how valuable it is to see a fellow left handed player give advice where i dont need to mirror it in my head. Watching you demonstrate and explain in detail is so helpful
So glad I can help! Left-handed pickleball players have to stick together :)
This video covered every question I had about the back hand flick! Excellent tutorial Tanner!
Glad it was helpful!
Always love opening up my TH-cam to a new Tanner video! Keep it up and we will see you on the MLP tour in no time!
WOW! Thanks Mike, so nice of you! I appreciate that, and you will see me sooner rather than later :)
@@tanner.pickleball Kali plays in her second tournament this weekend in Orlando. I will update the post with results! She is doing women’s 3.0 doubles and singles
Amazing. I am a "weak" 4.6 primarily b/c my BH Flick forever has been always below avg (but has low errors and I can still keep 'em back and deep).
But this vid has changed my game - u cite so many strong technical points that it has literally changed my game over nite after not being able to consistently solve my BH Flick issue for almost a year now!
It's now slightly above Avg and will soon be an elite weapon - 5.0 here i come - well done...thank you Tanner!
Lets go Corey, love that!!
Brooo this is toooooo good! Thanks!! Can’t wait to work on this 🔥
Any time!
Can't wait to drill on this and use it in my next rec play! Thanks Tanner. Every single one of your releases (videos, shorts, newsletter) is gold
Awesome! Thank you, so kind of you :)
You're such a talented teacher, in addition to being a talented pickleball player. Thanks Tanner! I love all your videos and newsletters.
Appreciate that!! 😊
Well done Tanner! Great content for Advanced and higher!
Thanks man!
Thank you! You're an excellent instructor.
Appreciate it!
Great explanation! Thank you for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
I always look forward to you’re videos everyday 😄👍
Happy to hear that!
Great video. Interested in your feedback on any differences in mechanics for flicks vs rolls.
Thanks and great question! I would have to make a separate video since it’s a long winded answer. In short.. the roll is for when the ball is low and your opponent is far back. You wouldn’t attack with a roll for the most part. You attack with a flick and roll to keep them back!
I would intuitively agree with this but in BJ’s signature cross court dink -> backhand roll down the line, he uses it as an attack against the player across from him standing at the kitchen line. In fact, he has a video about this on his channel. What are your thoughts given that?
Just what I was looking for!
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This was an amazing video!!!! Wow!!! Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent vid...thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Love your videos, good stuff!
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Glad you like them! Love the emoji!
A strong backhand flick(and roll) make me feel like a superhero against intermediate players, almost none of them can do it and its steep downward trajectory(and topspin) makes it hard for them to defend without a popup
Exactly it!
Excellent, excellent. 👍👍
Thanks K!
great coaching
I'm glad you liked it!
Damn, this has unlocked something for me!
lets go Brian!!
Brilliant.
Thanks!
Thanks
Welcome!
Such great teaching vids Tanner ! I would save my pennies to take part ( coming from Canada) in a week long course with you. Any chance you are holding such clinics in the future?
Thanks Jill!! Currently, not. If anything changes I'll let you know!!
Love it
Thanks for the comment Sam!
Great video! Question: When first starting to train this, do you recommend a limit to avoid elbow or other injuries? Thank you!
Good question!! I personally have no had any elbow injuries, but it is good to never over train anything. I would say a MAX of 20 serves before taking a break.
Great video dude! Will be hopping on the news letter soon. Love the self promotion mid video and keeping things quick and snappy! You're going to blow up as pickleball continues to become a larger and larger sport. ❤
Thanks you are the man!!
legend !!!!
Thanks for watching!
Wow! Love it!!! I will be hated at the courts even more so.
hahaha
What's your paddle grip when hitting a backhand flick versus a backhand block?
I have an entire video on this called ‘all pros do this’ on my page!
Tanner, bankhand roll and handhand flick are different shots but the situations that you hit them are similar. Does your brain default to back hand flick and you do that shot a high percentage of the time vs the roll?
Only roll when the ball is super low and the opponent is not a threat, you're doing this to keep them back. I prefer the flick as often as possible since it is more brute force :)
@tanner what grip do you recommend?
I recommend an eastern grip for this!
what is your grip when you do this?
Slight Eastern!
Great video.
You didn't mention what grip to use. Are you sliding to an eastern backhand grip? Or maintaining a continental or eastern forehand grip.
Good question! You can do both. I personally go opposite of my forehand grip. However, you can do continental!
Hey man! Amazing video as always thank you.
Question tho: I take lessons from a top player and he had some contradicting advice. He said that he doesnt like to flick when the opponent is at the baseline, only when they are at the net. Instead he recommended what he called a "roll", which he demonstrated as extending your arm out all the way, keeping the paddle head parallel to the ground, locking the wrist and making an upwards motion hinging from the shoulder. He said this is better because its more consistent and accurate. Have you heard of this strategy and what are your thoughts on it? Thanks again!
Hey, yes I see what he's saying! I use the flick if the ball if "flickable" meaning its high enough. If it is super low, I will roll it back when the opponent are back near the baseline!
@@tanner.pickleball cool, thanks for the help dude!
All this grade-A content, however I need to see you doing it with the TF Genesis 😉
Hahahaha it’s so sweet!!
Small stroke. Frisbee tip is great.
Yesssir!
you would also use the Flick to attack the opponents in front of you correct?
Always to the guy in front!
@@tanner.pickleball I practice in rec play but all my flicks are just going straight up and then it’s too high so they are going out. I don’t understand the concept of you can take balls low to the net
What is the difference between the flick and the roll?
Flick is an attack when the opponents are up. A roll is more used when the opponents are back trying to get to the net, and you're keeping them back!
@@tanner.pickleball But it's the same mouvement when you hit the ball?
@@simthai173 The backhand roll is even more challenging. You can find Ben Johns' demonstration of it. He has a video on the difference as well. A roll uses the same grip (eastern), but will start from your shins or knees. You will essentially lift your arm from closer to the body and go diagonally outward and upward finishing around shoulder height or higher brushing up against the back of the ball. It uses no wrist (as compared to a flick). When performed correctly, it will arch from below the net and over it with heavy top-spin. It's used far less as it requires exceptional timing.
While you can flick without top-spin, when flicking with an eastern grip and making sure that you're behind the ball, a flick can have some pretty heavy top-spin as well as demonstrated by some of Tanner's instances here.
What’s a reset?
I’ll make a video on it!
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Thanks B!
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Amazing!!
You need a blower for that court before you fall down - lol.
True stuff lol !!
@@tanner.pickleball I say that because I've fallen twice on outdoor courts, not much on indoor ones. I blamed the dust! LOL.
It’s actually like throwing a frisbee right side up. Not upside down.
No it’s not! Upside down forces you to cock your wrist the exact same way for the flick. Right side up, there is no wrist tension. I promise, I know what I’m talking about 🤣🤣
@@tanner.pickleball I also know what I’m talking about, I’m an ultimate frisbee player. And the motion you’re showing is just a regular frisbee throw. If you’re not cocking your wrist exactly as you show for a right side up frisbee throw, there’s no way you’re getting the whip you need. And curling your fingers under the lip of the disc is what gets your wrist cocked in the way you’re showing. I have a suspicion we’re describing the same thing but you’re seeing it as “upside down” for some reason from your perspective. Do you mean the disc is actually inverted? The curled lip is facing the sky and the top of the disc is facing the ground? There’s not a lot of reasons to throw a disc like that in the first place.
@@douglasmurdoch7247 Ok fair enough, if you play frisbee, you have me beat. I suppose my form is wrong! I will grab as frisbee and check out exactly what I mean!
@@tanner.pickleball frisbee aside, I recommend your channel to everyone I play with. I can’t wait to keep telling people that I’ve been following you since the beginning 💪😎
@@douglasmurdoch7247 Thanks Doug!! I appreciate you doing that :)
Ben Johns does not have his elbow up in the air...
Yes he does. It’s not as literal. Just like mine in action is not literal. It’s the thought process hit the shot properly.
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Thanks H!
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Sweet!!