It was nice to see him settle down after 2004. Too bad he was never quite this good again, on paper, though post-2005 Pedro generally had advanced Maddux-like technique as a pitcher. The problem is that he was on a tightrope… he made batters look ridiculous almost every game… but when he missed his spots you’d be looking at more home runs.
Was just thinking this too listening to some of their interviews, especially ones where they absolutely grill the guest. Always respectful but did not pull any punches whatsoever. We will never see a show like this again.
Pedro brought excitement and swagger. With the addition of Beltran and Delgado, Omar built and team that got to Gm 7 of the NLCS in 2006....and we all know what happened there. 12-6
He had a great 1st year with the mets (like Johan later did in 2008), 2006 he got hurt and 2007 and 2008 he was a non factor on the team (again like Santana) Pedro did help the team a lot in 2005 and early 2006 though
Only players that should get big contracts in all of sports are players that perform at a high level AND they have to sell as well (meaning, people buy their jerseys, pay tickets to see them play, turn on the TV/internet to see them play). In today's world, I see players across all sports getting insane huge contracts, players that I have never even heard of, players that are role players
Mike and the Mad Dog….Oh how we miss this show so badly. Carton is crude and unfunny. I’ve actually programmed ESPN in to my cars radios and listen to them instead. Carton crudeness is just ridiculous. There’s nothing he won’t say or do to get more money.
I mean, if I had to make the prediction here before the start of the 2005 season, I would have guessed Pavano as well. But Pavano just had tons of injuries for a non-strikeout-pitcher
Beltran wanted to go to the Yankees, since he grew up a Bernie Williams fan and he was gonna replace Bernie in Centerfield, AND if Beltran signed with the Yankees, then Beltran was gonna get paid alot without the responsibility of being the main guy in the lineup since he wont be making the most of all the players of the Yankees
I agree. Icons like that NEED to stay and retire with the team that they peaked with. As a Mets fan (and Yankee hater) I loved when he came to the Mets bc it was almost like he was taunting their fans. Minor stuff but the drama within the drama in sports is what makes it so entertaining.
Agreed. Die hard Yankee fan here, one of the best pitchers of all time. Dude was lights out for over a decade. I hated him til he tossed Don Zimmer by his bald head!
He was done as an ace, in 2003 and 2004 every time he threw his 100th pitch of the night he would instantly lose his effectiveness, especially against the Yankees. It wasn’t just game 7 in 2003 (where most people put the blame on Grady Little) but also game 2 in 2004 (gave up a line drive homer to John Olerud that proved the difference) and game 5 in 2004 (gave up a 3 RBI double to Jeter that blew the lead, forcing the Red Sox to rely on Ortiz extra-inning heroics for a second straight night). With the ongoing “war” against the Yankees at the time, there was no place for a no-longer-ace Pedro (although I’m not sure Wade Miller, Matt Clement, or an ancient David Wells were the answers).
Well, technically, the Mets didnt get Delgado (he went to the Marlins). Delgado was interested in going to the Mets, but he didnt like the way the Mets pursued him. Then the Marlins did the fire sale after the 2005 season and he got traded to the Mets
To be fair, both Pavano and Wright were coming off nice seasons in 2004 with the Marlins and Braves, and they had nice stuff. I dont blame the Yankees for signing them after the 2004 season. But they just had horrible luck with injuries. With that said, I loved the Pavano signing, since I liked his stuff. But I was suspect when they signed Wright, since I wonder how he would do in the pitcher-friendly stadiums of the AL East Pavano is a pitcher that could have given you 7 innings with 2-3 runs per game all games in the AL East, but he just got injured
@@hmhm856 I thought Pavano was a more sure thing as well since he had been a good young pitcher up until that point. However, despite having a good rookie campaign in 1997 which included some great playoff starts, Jaret Wright spent the next FIVE seasons either being mediocre or just flat out bad. Even after the good year he had in 2004, there were still serious doubts about his consistency and ability to stay on the field which both ended up biting the Yanks in the ass.
Pavano was coming off a 2003 WS title with the Marlins, and a very nice 2004 season. Pavano was a nice signing for the Yankees on paper, but it just didnt work out due to all those injuries.
Wow Delgado and Pedro on the horizon for the Mets. I'm getting old.
Injuries caught up to Pedro but 2005 with the Mets was another great year for him.
he should have won 20+ plus games and the cy young in 2005. But that bullpen in 2005 for the Mets was HORRIBLE.
1st year .. 15 wins 2.82 ERA
Should have won 20 if Braden Looper as a closer and bullpen wasn't terrible
@@eli2times423 great point, agree with you on that. Bullpen was horrendous.
@@peterhilaire875 100 %
It was nice to see him settle down after 2004. Too bad he was never quite this good again, on paper, though post-2005 Pedro generally had advanced Maddux-like technique as a pitcher. The problem is that he was on a tightrope… he made batters look ridiculous almost every game… but when he missed his spots you’d be looking at more home runs.
They were SPOT on with Pedro’s Mets career analysis
These guys are legends, crazy we will never have people like them again the new age of media is a disaster
Was just thinking this too listening to some of their interviews, especially ones where they absolutely grill the guest. Always respectful but did not pull any punches whatsoever. We will never see a show like this again.
it's not a disaster, times change.
@@sillygoose635 folks aren't a fan of change
What a great interview. No bullshit from Pedro.
This was such a great intro to New York
Pedro brought excitement and swagger. With the addition of Beltran and Delgado, Omar built and team that got to Gm 7 of the NLCS in 2006....and we all know what happened there. 12-6
Uncle charlie
No, he brought nigga behavior to the game. Something we don't need.
Beltran struck out looking my heart sank
The Yes into and then the Mike and the Maddog into just gave me goosebumps - great memories.
Francessa at his peak weight.
We Need Mike and the Dog back
Mike: "He was spunky"
Me: " I hate spunky! "
He had a great 1st year with the mets (like Johan later did in 2008), 2006 he got hurt and 2007 and 2008 he was a non factor on the team (again like Santana) Pedro did help the team a lot in 2005 and early 2006 though
Thanks bro
When these guys pass away they’ll leave a hole in the history of New York sports they’re that important
Can’t believe that was 18 years ago
You just dont see this type of interviewing these days
He wasn’t so great for the team, but he put the Mets back on the map.
It's weird in retrospect. You are on the money because past 05 (early in the year) he was not the same Pedro. But that perception totally changed.
Crazy how contracts have changed. Bad pitchers get this contract today
Only players that should get big contracts in all of sports are players that perform at a high level AND they have to sell as well (meaning, people buy their jerseys, pay tickets to see them play, turn on the TV/internet to see them play).
In today's world, I see players across all sports getting insane huge contracts, players that I have never even heard of, players that are role players
Beating Pedro twice in the 2009 World Series offered some measure of atonement for Yankee fans.
When was this?
This was right after Pedro signed with the Mets in 2005.
@@DiamondConversations8 2004!
@@travelingman5146 Pedro signed with the Mets in mid-December 2004, so this was December 2004 or January 2005
Did we get him in the trade for max scherzer?
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnnd!!!!!!!!!!
Add Pedro and Koufax career totals and what do you get? Roger Clemens career totals
Steroids are a hell of a drug
It is insane just how good Roger Clemens career stats are.. his best season was in his 40’s
@@jah2827 I think his best was in his mid to late 20s but he was definitely excellent in his 40s too
Roid monster 🤣🤣
koufax postseason ERA: 0.95. clemens postseason ERA: 3.75. and koufax did it without steroids.
Look at Sweeny!
12:40 man thats the worst lead in music I ever forgot they had
My goodness! I missed this type of radio. Excellent, excellent, interview with Pedro.
Mike and the Mad Dog….Oh how we miss this show so badly. Carton is crude and unfunny. I’ve actually programmed ESPN in to my cars radios and listen to them instead.
Carton crudeness is just ridiculous.
There’s nothing he won’t say or do to get more money.
Chris predicting that the Pavano contract will be better than Pedros, long term!!! 🤣🤣🤣
I mean, if I had to make the prediction here before the start of the 2005 season, I would have guessed Pavano as well. But Pavano just had tons of injuries for a non-strikeout-pitcher
Pavano was the worst
I love that the Phillies started him against the Yankees in 2009
"are they gonna a sign beltran ?" ...."no"... 30:25
Beltran wanted to go to the Yankees, since he grew up a Bernie Williams fan and he was gonna replace Bernie in Centerfield, AND if Beltran signed with the Yankees, then Beltran was gonna get paid alot without the responsibility of being the main guy in the lineup since he wont be making the most of all the players of the Yankees
@@hmhm856and he eventually ended up being a Yankee too
It was a crime this man didn't finish his career in Boston.
I agree. Icons like that NEED to stay and retire with the team that they peaked with. As a Mets fan (and Yankee hater) I loved when he came to the Mets bc it was almost like he was taunting their fans. Minor stuff but the drama within the drama in sports is what makes it so entertaining.
Agreed. Die hard Yankee fan here, one of the best pitchers of all time. Dude was lights out for over a decade. I hated him til he tossed Don Zimmer by his bald head!
@@topspot4834 no one asked for your opinion lol
He was done as an ace, in 2003 and 2004 every time he threw his 100th pitch of the night he would instantly lose his effectiveness, especially against the Yankees. It wasn’t just game 7 in 2003 (where most people put the blame on Grady Little) but also game 2 in 2004 (gave up a line drive homer to John Olerud that proved the difference) and game 5 in 2004 (gave up a 3 RBI double to Jeter that blew the lead, forcing the Red Sox to rely on Ortiz extra-inning heroics for a second straight night). With the ongoing “war” against the Yankees at the time, there was no place for a no-longer-ace Pedro (although I’m not sure Wade Miller, Matt Clement, or an ancient David Wells were the answers).
mike was exactly right, he was a success in the first year
How has his english gotten worse as he got older?
This is what the WFAN should be.
Now we are reduced ..yo bro...yo bro ..
Agreed! The ESPN model doesn’t and never will work in New York.
Benigno will be missed just like mike
What?! Joe beningo is/was great
Now we are stuck with Maggie gray and moose
@@plushieuploads5747 sexism
My favorite show ever no show will ever parallel to this great sports talk show
18:50 Seems like Schilling likes attention 😄
and then they got delgado and beltran
Yeah didn't Beltran lose the NLCS looking at strike 3?
Well, technically, the Mets didnt get Delgado (he went to the Marlins). Delgado was interested in going to the Mets, but he didnt like the way the Mets pursued him. Then the Marlins did the fire sale after the 2005 season and he got traded to the Mets
Miss these guys on 660😢
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 thanks for posting
I was kind of enjoying the nostalgia trip here until I heard "Carl Pavano and Jaret Wright." 🤢
To be fair, both Pavano and Wright were coming off nice seasons in 2004 with the Marlins and Braves, and they had nice stuff. I dont blame the Yankees for signing them after the 2004 season. But they just had horrible luck with injuries.
With that said, I loved the Pavano signing, since I liked his stuff. But I was suspect when they signed Wright, since I wonder how he would do in the pitcher-friendly stadiums of the AL East
Pavano is a pitcher that could have given you 7 innings with 2-3 runs per game all games in the AL East, but he just got injured
@@hmhm856 I thought Pavano was a more sure thing as well since he had been a good young pitcher up until that point. However, despite having a good rookie campaign in 1997 which included some great playoff starts, Jaret Wright spent the next FIVE seasons either being mediocre or just flat out bad. Even after the good year he had in 2004, there were still serious doubts about his consistency and ability to stay on the field which both ended up biting the Yanks in the ass.
I’m glad Pedro was a met
He was fun. He brought life to Shea after their disappointing and dull 2002-2003-2004 seasons
Really dog? Pavano?
Pavano was coming off a 2003 WS title with the Marlins, and a very nice 2004 season. Pavano was a nice signing for the Yankees on paper, but it just didnt work out due to all those injuries.