Nice review! I think the Pappy 15yr has a strong butterscotch flavor and it’s very easy to drink. The Weller 107 is a really nice pour and I would love to have a store pick! I can’t color my roots, I’m bald ;) Cheers
Great content - some of the best advice I can give is to find stores that offer samples of their store picks. Some, like the OWA here, can absolutely smoke more rare and much more expensive bottles…
Cherry Cola is one of my favorite notes in Whiskey. When it is balanced with a bit of tartness like in a wheated bourbon it can be pretty close to ideal. Hope these start becoming more available as I have also preferred high quality Weller to Pappy when I have tried them side to side. Great video.
I have a Weller Full Proof pick, and the descriptions of the Antique 107 pick in this video are close to my experience with this Full Proof. The bar where I got the Full Proof also has an Antique 107 pick. I've tried it, and it is very good too. Maybe I should go there and revisit it, as it might be worth picking up that bottle. Their prices are a bit high, but it can be worth paying extra for a top quality store pick, especially when you get to try it first. When I've had standard Antique 107 at the local bars, it seems like it hasn't been up to the standard of the store picks. It's good, but I wouldn't pay extra for it. I like Old Rip when I can find it at a bar that isn't charging way too much, but I strongly doubt I will ever see a bottle for a reasonable price. I think these Weller store picks are the way to go.
I got 1 more Antique 107 single barrel Liquor Barn store pick. I'm saving it for a special occasion or until I can find more. If you haven't tried one, it's worth every penny. I got mine for $64 a bottle. I never pay secondary or way above MSRP for anything. I've drank Bourbon for 30 years and tried it all. I've drank the Stitzle-Weller Pappy's. I've even drank the Old Boone Pappy's. The Pappy's put put today don't taste anything like those. Today's Pappy's are good, but they aren't worth the hunt. They definitely aren't worth the insane secondary prices. Get that 107, you won't be disappointed.
Great blind! I've been meaning to set up something like this with my friends, but haven't been willing to open all these bottles yet. Obviously my store pick will be different. I hear the PA state picks aren't always so great. I've enjoyed the Weller 12 and 107 that I have opened and I'm not mad the Special Reserve either. I would be interested if you guys have ever tried Poor Man's Pappy or Prudent Pappy blends yet and how they would compare in this blind. Cheers!
The idea of tasting one bourbon a few different ways is a fun one. We're not whiskey stone fans at all so that would be out, but the others are pretty doable.
I have a somewhat skewed view of the Van Winkle line, because I first tried them all at a transitional time: the 23 year old was some of the last genuine Stitzel-Weller distillate and I wish I could afford a bottle; the 15 and 20 had been produced at the Bernheim Distillery and I didn't really like either of them; the 12 year Lot B and the Old Rip 10 were from Buffalo Trace and I have bought bottles of both of them (luckily the Lot B was retail price and the ORVW not too bad secondary). I'd love to see you do a blind comparison of Lot B and Weller 12 (if you haven't already).
“Car-mel” is a place. A small town south of Monterey, CA , where the golf course Pebble Beach is located. Clint Eastwood was the mayor of “Carmel by the Sea” in the late 1980s. He ran for mayor because the town council made him mad over changes he wanted to do to the restaurant he used to own there.
There is a local shop that does OWA and Weller Full Proof store picks fairly often, and always gets non-chill filtered versions of them (not sure if this is common), and I keep missing the drops! Le sigh. Some day!
Erin - we would never make fun of you Josh - Roll Damn Tide. Big one this weekend. P.S. posted before The Wheel quote at the very end so had to come back 👌🏼
This one wasn’t even labeled NCF surprisingly. It was just that good (or it was NCF and simply not listed on the pick sticker). Either way we need more of these in our life for sure!
Knowing those other pours pretty well, Sweet Wheat wouldn’t stand a chance (we’re not fans) and Maker’s 46 CS would be a good addition but would likely fall pretty short of these honestly. And we’re Maker’s fans at least regarding the 46CS and good Maker’s picks.
Appreciate the feedback. We try to leave them up for around a minute or more. It’s intrusive to leave them up for too long though. Definitely a balancing act. Appreciate you watching!
@@damjr40 no shipping to TN unfortunately, at least not directly. We have to proxy our own picks to an out of state friend. We have a ton of folks in our Patreon and Discord who help others who deal with shipping restrictions as well.
Sort of a novice asking questions but what the heck. I don't know about store picks but you let me know you would have to know the palette of the one doing the pick. OK - got it. The other thing is "secondary markets". Would you say what your go-to secondary markets are, or you wouldn't want to say? It's okay if that is not something to give. Thanks.
Yep, it’s definitely very helpful to know the palate picking the single barrels you’re buying. That’s very important to us personally. As for secondary markets, we use that as a bit of an all-inclusive term for peer-to-peer transactions. Most are local but some are online, and they’re often an invite-only thing where you have to know someone to get plugged in.
Everything has the potential to vary. Different years of Pappy batches vary. Weller Antique 107 varies. Nothing in whiskey is constant or repeatable, and therein lies the art.
We all have our preferences for sure. We’ve had 107 enough in blinds that it’s kind of lost its luster, and in this lineup it was last by a pretty wide margin. Still enjoy it on its own for generally enjoyable easy sipping. Would love to get back to the days of it sitting on shelves for $30 before all the hype.
Haven't watched the video yet but I'll say my opinion - Weller. Weller is just far more enjoyable. Now your results may vary because Weller lacks the same oak profile that Pappy tends to carry... but if you know dusty whiskey, and good whiskey maker's, then you know that oak is really a flaw. Modern drinker's have been scammed by TH-camrs into thinking Oak = Good. You don't want oak over taking the profile of a whiskey. Drink some good scotch, dusty whiskey, or good whiskey made by people using better wood. You'll see a common thread, there is good oak and there is bad oak. Good oak adds another layer of sweetness and viscosity to the whiskey. Bad oak is drying, tannic, and crowds out other flavors. One reason current whiskey is so heavily oaked is the desire to build bigger and bigger rickhouses (taller = more heat = more oak influence), a desire to make older TASTING whiskey quicker, and use of cheaper barrel staves. Barrels are expensive and the average age of the wood used is younger and the dry aging is shorter. If you go back 20 years more whiskey used staves aged 24-36 months whereas now they use 12-24. There are also fewer large oaks to harvest. I know a distiller who has tested the impact of barrels on whiskey by using the same tree but different heights of the tree to make staves. The oldest wood in a tree is the best for making whiskey - it adds less tannin and more sweetness. Anyway - Sazerac selects the heavily oaked profiles to become Pappy and the barrels that aren't heading that way tend to be barreled for other labels. Pappy has some of the Sazerac cherry/sweet profile but is assaulted with oak. Weller 107 and FP are just slightly less oaked and better balanced. That's my problem with the oak component in most modern aged whiskey, it's completely imbalanced.
Protect her at all costs! “I can’t go through a flight so slow”, “I could drink this … a lot” 😂
Erin, the fact that you are so honest about what you smell and taste is what makes your videos stand out.
Josh officially a hooligan! 😂😂😂
This video makes me happy! JOSHUA!!!! 😂😂😂
Love how you left the tail end of the video in 👌
Man I’d love to find a 107 pick. Please, for those of us pedestrians that will probably never find one. FINISH WHAT’S IN THE BOTTLE!!!! Cheers.
You two are my favorite whiskey tasters. That includes couples and the male pairs that taste on you tube. Thanks for all you tastings.
That’s high praise with so many great channels out there. Thank you so much!
This was an enjoyable watch. Y’all were in rare form! Cheers!
I wear either Danner or Carolina Boots try them the danners are fantastic
Nice review! I think the Pappy 15yr has a strong butterscotch flavor and it’s very easy to drink. The Weller 107 is a really nice pour and I would love to have a store pick! I can’t color my roots, I’m bald ;) Cheers
Great content - some of the best advice I can give is to find stores that offer samples of their store picks. Some, like the OWA here, can absolutely smoke more rare and much more expensive bottles…
Great job guys. Love when i see a new video pop up. Cheers y'all!! 🎉
Cherry Cola is one of my favorite notes in Whiskey. When it is balanced with a bit of tartness like in a wheated bourbon it can be pretty close to ideal. Hope these start becoming more available as I have also preferred high quality Weller to Pappy when I have tried them side to side. Great video.
Agree, but think this true for all store picks. So far, never had a bad one.
😂😂😂 man she was is final form today 😂😂😂
I have a Weller Full Proof pick, and the descriptions of the Antique 107 pick in this video are close to my experience with this Full Proof. The bar where I got the Full Proof also has an Antique 107 pick. I've tried it, and it is very good too. Maybe I should go there and revisit it, as it might be worth picking up that bottle. Their prices are a bit high, but it can be worth paying extra for a top quality store pick, especially when you get to try it first. When I've had standard Antique 107 at the local bars, it seems like it hasn't been up to the standard of the store picks. It's good, but I wouldn't pay extra for it. I like Old Rip when I can find it at a bar that isn't charging way too much, but I strongly doubt I will ever see a bottle for a reasonable price. I think these Weller store picks are the way to go.
Weller 107 standard on the shelf?! 😬 I never see that allocated bottle sitting on a shelf. I’m always waiting in line for it. lol
I got 1 more Antique 107 single barrel Liquor Barn store pick. I'm saving it for a special occasion or until I can find more. If you haven't tried one, it's worth every penny. I got mine for $64 a bottle. I never pay secondary or way above MSRP for anything. I've drank Bourbon for 30 years and tried it all. I've drank the Stitzle-Weller Pappy's. I've even drank the Old Boone Pappy's. The Pappy's put put today don't taste anything like those. Today's Pappy's are good, but they aren't worth the hunt. They definitely aren't worth the insane secondary prices. Get that 107, you won't be disappointed.
This was super fun to watch. I enjoy wheated bourbon, and have found that I’d not buy Pappy unless I could get it for retail.
Love it, “Dang Gina!!!”
I am very lucky to have a 107 pick and it's amazing!
8:51 LOLOLOLOL! Kind of amazing that happened.
Couple months ago I landed a 107 SP and it's so ridiculously good that I almost never touch it for fear of it running out.
We’ve got some bottles like that for sure!
Great blind! I've been meaning to set up something like this with my friends, but haven't been willing to open all these bottles yet. Obviously my store pick will be different. I hear the PA state picks aren't always so great. I've enjoyed the Weller 12 and 107 that I have opened and I'm not mad the Special Reserve either. I would be interested if you guys have ever tried Poor Man's Pappy or Prudent Pappy blends yet and how they would compare in this blind. Cheers!
We’ve tried a few of the blends and aren’t fans personally.
I would love to see you guys do a tasting of 1 bourbon in different styles of sipping. Neat, on ice, watered down, and a whiskey stone.
The idea of tasting one bourbon a few different ways is a fun one. We're not whiskey stone fans at all so that would be out, but the others are pretty doable.
Great video guys! 🍻
I have a somewhat skewed view of the Van Winkle line, because I first tried them all at a transitional time: the 23 year old was some of the last genuine Stitzel-Weller distillate and I wish I could afford a bottle; the 15 and 20 had been produced at the Bernheim Distillery and I didn't really like either of them; the 12 year Lot B and the Old Rip 10 were from Buffalo Trace and I have bought bottles of both of them (luckily the Lot B was retail price and the ORVW not too bad secondary). I'd love to see you do a blind comparison of Lot B and Weller 12 (if you haven't already).
Y'all had a good buzz during this one. lol
Funnily enough, this was the only video we recorded that day and we weren’t feeling it at all. This is just us hanging out and having fun.
WHISKEY CHEERS 😎
“Car-mel” is a place. A small town south of Monterey, CA , where the golf course Pebble Beach is located. Clint Eastwood was the mayor of “Carmel by the Sea” in the late 1980s. He ran for mayor because the town council made him mad over changes he wanted to do to the restaurant he used to own there.
Dropping knowledge!
Monterey is one of my favorite places, 3 hr drive south of me.
car-MEL is the town, CAR-mel is how some people say the flavor, and CARE-a-mel is the correct way to say the flavor. 😁
SP’s from BT have been some of my favorite bourbons.
Love the video. If you’re into boots, don’t sleep on Grant Stone. A bit pricy but their Diesel line is really nice.
They make some great stuff for sure!
where I am in NY, Antique 107: 199 Old Rip:800 Pappy 15: 1,800
Sounds about right for price gouging stores
There is a local shop that does OWA and Weller Full Proof store picks fairly often, and always gets non-chill filtered versions of them (not sure if this is common), and I keep missing the drops! Le sigh. Some day!
Here’s to you snagging one soon!
Erin - we would never make fun of you
Josh - Roll Damn Tide. Big one this weekend.
P.S. posted before The Wheel quote at the very end so had to come back 👌🏼
RTR!!!
I thought she was in her mid 30s 😮😊
Love the video and your content! Keep up the great work! Question for you; where did you get the flight boards? Thanks in advance.
A dear friend and Patreon member made them for us and some of the other members of our Patreon community. They’re awesome for sure!
@@stuffandwhiskey That's awesome! Thanks for the response.
Great video. Will try to get w107 storepick
My wife trained me to help touch up her roots. She’s so cheap! 😂
Or frugal and brilliant!
Ahaha I'm in the same club😂
@@stuffandwhiskey can’t argue that!
@@kamahhl I’m not alone!!
My mom taught me as a child in the 70s. Lol
Those NCF OWA picks are hitters!
This one wasn’t even labeled NCF surprisingly. It was just that good (or it was NCF and simply not listed on the pick sticker). Either way we need more of these in our life for sure!
@@stuffandwhiskey always ISO for these. Great flight idea 👊🏻
Fun comparo, I would love to see a Pappy/Weller 107 single barrel/1792 Sweet Wheat/Maker's 46 Cask Strength blind comparison.
Knowing those other pours pretty well, Sweet Wheat wouldn’t stand a chance (we’re not fans) and Maker’s 46
CS would be a good addition but would likely fall pretty short of these honestly. And we’re Maker’s fans at least regarding the 46CS and good Maker’s picks.
I wish there was more graphics, maybe keep the label up throughout the taste
Appreciate the feedback. We try to leave them up for around a minute or more. It’s intrusive to leave them up for too long though. Definitely a balancing act. Appreciate you watching!
Is that boot brown or black?
It’s a chocolate brown. So good!
I would have never guessed Erin is it in her forties I would have guessed very early thirties
"Are we Hooligans".....To answer your question...Yes....Yes we are...most of us anyway we just know how to act when we are out in public. LOL
😮 But lovable buffoons and hooligans 😂
Same mashbill curated differently
too bad the Saz barrel pick is Weller FP and not 107. I'd love to get a barrel of 107!!!
Same! I need to know who to call!
Do you have a local store for your Barrel Picks?
The picks we do go through online retailers so they can be shipped all over the the country. We use Shared Pour, Keg n Bottle, and Seelbachs.
I live here in Nashville so I'm assuming I can't get them here?
@@damjr40 no shipping to TN unfortunately, at least not directly. We have to proxy our own picks to an out of state friend. We have a ton of folks in our Patreon and Discord who help others who deal with shipping restrictions as well.
Good to know thanks!
"Carmel" 👍😂
In the english language? No. In American? Yes 😂
Finally had a pour of winkle 10. I did feel like it was weller’s good looking cousin lol.
😂😂 best description of Old Rip ever!
Sort of a novice asking questions but what the heck. I don't know about store picks but you let me know you would have to know the palette of the one doing the pick. OK - got it. The other thing is "secondary markets". Would you say what your go-to secondary markets are, or you wouldn't want to say?
It's okay if that is not something to give. Thanks.
Yep, it’s definitely very helpful to know the palate picking the single barrels you’re buying. That’s very important to us personally. As for secondary markets, we use that as a bit of an all-inclusive term for peer-to-peer transactions. Most are local but some are online, and they’re often an invite-only thing where you have to know someone to get plugged in.
It's caramel, not caramel 😆 Hi from Cross Plains, TN! Enjoy the videos!
Cross Plains!? Hey neighbor!
It's not soda, it's pop :)
Embrace the gray Erin. You would wear it well.
Wow
Store picks shouldn't count in blinds because they have the potential to vary.
Everything has the potential to vary. Different years of Pappy batches vary. Weller Antique 107 varies. Nothing in whiskey is constant or repeatable, and therein lies the art.
"on the shelf" LOL WHERE???
Fair. 😂
Antique 107 pedestrian? I beg to differ y'all.
We all have our preferences for sure. We’ve had 107 enough in blinds that it’s kind of lost its luster, and in this lineup it was last by a pretty wide margin. Still enjoy it on its own for generally enjoyable easy sipping. Would love to get back to the days of it sitting on shelves for $30 before all the hype.
Wrong! It’s “Carmel”! 😅
First!
Haven't watched the video yet but I'll say my opinion - Weller. Weller is just far more enjoyable. Now your results may vary because Weller lacks the same oak profile that Pappy tends to carry... but if you know dusty whiskey, and good whiskey maker's, then you know that oak is really a flaw. Modern drinker's have been scammed by TH-camrs into thinking Oak = Good. You don't want oak over taking the profile of a whiskey. Drink some good scotch, dusty whiskey, or good whiskey made by people using better wood. You'll see a common thread, there is good oak and there is bad oak. Good oak adds another layer of sweetness and viscosity to the whiskey. Bad oak is drying, tannic, and crowds out other flavors.
One reason current whiskey is so heavily oaked is the desire to build bigger and bigger rickhouses (taller = more heat = more oak influence), a desire to make older TASTING whiskey quicker, and use of cheaper barrel staves. Barrels are expensive and the average age of the wood used is younger and the dry aging is shorter. If you go back 20 years more whiskey used staves aged 24-36 months whereas now they use 12-24. There are also fewer large oaks to harvest. I know a distiller who has tested the impact of barrels on whiskey by using the same tree but different heights of the tree to make staves. The oldest wood in a tree is the best for making whiskey - it adds less tannin and more sweetness.
Anyway - Sazerac selects the heavily oaked profiles to become Pappy and the barrels that aren't heading that way tend to be barreled for other labels. Pappy has some of the Sazerac cherry/sweet profile but is assaulted with oak. Weller 107 and FP are just slightly less oaked and better balanced. That's my problem with the oak component in most modern aged whiskey, it's completely imbalanced.