Why Cold Approaching Is Doomed - With No Obvious Solution
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ย. 2024
- There is more and more pressure in society to get guys to stop cold approaching women on the street - A recent article in the papers a few days ago highlights this fact.
It's clear that the long term prospects for cold approaching are doomed, but men still need to meet women, so how is this going to work?
Day game has long been really fantastic way to meet women - Once you know what you 're doing and how to effectively flirt, women generally respond really well.
Unfortunately, if every man was confident enough to approach all the cute girls he saw on the street, life would be nearly impossible for women.
So we need a dating solution that works for both men and women, what could that be?
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Women don't want to take the risk of being rejected, but somehow assume that men are loving it and should keep doing it.
Rigt. They don't care if you've been blown out a thousand times in a row, they still want you to approach them.
Mark Zaney Cope.
@@Stan3544
Yep
The problem is when women that aren't even all that attractive turn dudes down. Its a real confidence destroyer. Its like, dudes that look better than you are hitting on women that you think that you can get. Basic females have options now.
Phillip facts
It takes a LOT of courage to approach a stranger or even give them a sign, which a lot women simply don't have. Not gonna happen
@Sminto Antony IG smintoQatar wishful thinking
I have been saying similar things for years!
Does it though? Really it is about changing your perception. I understand rejection, like most guys. And yes, women will have to experience some if this idea is developed.
But I think we both can agree that women will experience a lot less of it than men. And they will always have an avenue to abate their feeling of rejection that are not open to men - finding guys who go after them. Which isn't a shortage in my experience, no matter what type of girl you are.
Also, this will help women develop their personalities, just like it does for men. I know I am in the minority, but it drains me when I find an pretty girl and jump through all the hoops to attract her, only to discover she really isn't compatible at all with me. And then I have to let her down.
I think it is actually part of a bigger societal problem and this is one of the symptoms, but this post is already too long.
Just consider what I said. This guy thought about the idea, it just needed a bit more development.
I've been saying this forever. When most or almost all men catch onto the red pill, women will be forced to do a decent amount of approaching. Or. They will just use online dating apps like they already do, but then still, they will have to put a little effort in. Which is a change because they are used to doing no work when it comes to getting men. This is going to be one day, didn't say it would be soon.
@Sminto Antony IG smintoQatar don't hope too much, even if that day comes, the won't go for you, they will go for the top 20% of men and it's even worse.
Ok ladies, we will no longer cold approach you, but be careful what you wish for ladies, because one day when you reach a certain age, ZERO men will approach you.
Will never happen. Even when they hit the fictional "wall" , there will always be guys willing to fuck them.
Mark Zaney love it
@@daved2976 Well, I happen to live in a complex with numerous older (like past 50years) unmarried women. Good gawd, they seem ridiculously unhappy, and they stop and try to converse with you every chance they get.
@@mgtowarena9636 I'm in my late 40's and have seen many marriages go to the wall, of couples a similar age to me. The majority of them are ended by the woman. Most of these newly divorced, late 40's women don't have to wait long before another guy is on the scene. Obviously, I can't comment on the quality or intentions of these guys, but from what I see is that even women at this age still have options.
@@daved2976 I dont disagree with your comment. My point is drawn out to its furthest point possible/its exaggerated (philosophical tactic) to illustrate my point. When I say this comment to women face to face, the look on their face is unbelievable, because its true.
Remember everyone...its only creepy to a woman if they don't find you attractive. Ijs.
You could say all the right things but if they dont think your good looking your a weirdo .... but if your good looking you can be a dumbass and asshole and say stupid shit and get the girl .... but you dont think it's the same for us we will talk to the super model or pornstar looking girl no matter what but if shes 500lbs we wont talk to her so I'm not defending women but we do that shit too
@Mark Zaney 99% of women will not approach because after 3 rejections they will have an mental meltdown from the reality check.
Erston Outway facts. Women will only say I don’t approach because that’s “a guy thing to do” and it’s not right. Haha sure use ancient excuses when in reality they terrified of rejection. Period. And doesn’t matter whatever gender you are. Rejection makes a human being uncomfortable. The whole “man has to learn and take rejection” is pure bullshit m. Just another fact that shows you society doesn’t give a shit about man. Emotions from man don’t mean shit
I’ve been saying this for years.
@@G3RM3X617It's stated and by definition that things what attracting women is multiples times harder to achieve than just a healthy diet and some workout routine. Men usually need much more things ON TOP on a decent appearance. Yeah there are 1% of fat people who can't be helped because it is a disease i know but then they should seek out other fat people.
BTW. A study actually revealed that women find only 20% of men above average looking.
Women don't want to approach men and expect men to approach, but love whining/bragging when they do get approached.
Bravo.
I think this guy understood the game, you cant make 'em happy folks, they just wanna get fucked and complain about it afterwards, no matter what.
lol. Pretty accurate.
Women moment
I Never cold approached as a high value man. But the thing was that I was inexperienced and I lost many hot girls that gave me choosing signals due to no experience and fear of approaching. So as a lesson I made myself cold approach the hottest of the hottest, young, blue eyes, brown hair young German girl. I didn’t want to do this and I wanted to run away but I realised to myself that I am doing the same mistake again of not approaching. I am a high value man, i can’t be scared of a girl. I went there and got rejected due to flawed cold approach but guess what, it never shook me because now I am battle tested and now I wait for the girl who gives me choosing signals and this time will approach because if I can cold approach a 15/10 girl, it’s way easy to approach this beautiful chick wanting me to come over to her as they always did in the past but I missed out. So I took a sting from this hot chick once in order to improve myself and prepare myself for the next big thing coming. I don’t regret approaching her and getting rejected but I regret not talking to 11 to 12 girls giving me choosing signals due to lack of experience and approach fear. Now it’s no problem and it’s easier for me. I’ll will never cold approach again, only warm approach but I felt good to provide myself undeniable proof that I have balls of steel and can do anything and overcome my fears and anxiety. That’s peak confidence.
This was just news for one day. Nothing will change because:
1. Hardly any guys approach even in clubs, not to mention on the street. This is what I see. So it's not even a problem
2. Women don't watch these videos
3. All attractive women get enough approaches already
4. One of the big attraction factors for the woman is the guy having the confidence to approach
5. Women in general can't handle rejection
The bottom line is: You won't get the ones who like you unless you deal with the ones who don't like you. Applies to both men and women.
But Martin...the cost and consequences of cold approaching women as a low status man with no dating marketplace value...too much. Rejection is the least of your problems. How about getting arrested and sued for sexual harassment and assault?
@@scottgurstein you sound very paranoic. Where do you live for such accusations to take place so easily?
@@scottgurstein No woman has ever called the cops on me for hitting on her, okay? Men who are scared to approach women make this lame argument all the time in order to justify their cowardice.
@ Jesus, I understand your inability to believe it if you haven't lived it. I have. I won't deny my own cowardice, you are right about that. And I won't attempt to justify it. I have no excuse for it. But it changes nothing about my many experiences I've described. On many occasions I can remember, even if I didn't say anything about being interested in someone, I've had women chew me out for it when they found out, come at me with lectures about how I should have taken the hint (when they said nothing to signal overt disinterest), called me a creeper and a pervert, a rapist, and threatened to have guys they know beat the shit out of me...all because I took steps to move the conversation from just casual to more along the lines of "hey, let's meet and grab a cup of coffee, maybe get to know each other!" And @federico, I have lived in a range of places, in the smallest towns to the largest of cities. It's the same everywhere.
@@scottgurstein no its not the same everywhere. different cultures make a lot of difference. So you're just some fragile guy who has had a trauma ever since that woman called you rapist and treated you. OK. Now I understand where your BS opinions are coming from. They are however in no way valid or of any value for the discussion here, as all you're doing is generalizing and trying very hard to convince everybody that if women don't show any actual sign of wanting to be approached, you should avoid approaching them. Just because YOU had no game in that circumstance and have been traumatized. Nope. Most women during their day won't send any signal of wanting to be approached because they have other things to think about. This doesn't mean they wouldn't be receptive to a guy who's not only good looking but also knows how to flirt, connect and ask out
My man went from red pill to black pill in sec.
I was going to a doctor's appointment and couldn't find the office amidst a row of identical doors. A girl was out front moving her car, and I said excuse me a couple of times to ask if she knew which one was the office. She was so programmed to ignore anyone trying to talk to her, that she ignored me too, even though I was only asking directions (I have a naturally loud and deep voice. She heard me just fine). Finally, i just went on with my question despite being ignored, and then she barely looked up and shook her head and mumbled that she didn't know. I couldn't imagine actually having a conversation with somebody like that. I made a point of asking the next old lady I saw in front of her and she answered, just so the girl knew I wasn't being indirect and trying to talk to her. That type is everywhere. Already in a mode of don't even think about saying hello to me.
For many guys, including myself, the only option is cold approach. We aren't the top 10 percent on Tinder etc, dont have tons of social connections or wealth, and don't have familial connections to prospective relationships. Sjw culture is trying to wipe low to mid value men entirely out of the picture.
I'm very related to your comment, usually couples are formed into social circles where the woman already knows you and your personality traces due time and acquanticement like work-place, college, church and mutual friends. Said that, guys without a large social circle would have only very few means of meet woman on thesis as cold-approach and dating apps/social media except that looks are fundamental on those contexts.
I don't even play the numbers game. The old game of talk to 100 women just to get 1. But instead in the past I've only approached women who showed me attention by giving me several of signs. Signs like sitting too close, signs like playing with her hair, signs like acting real nervous & jittery, signs like staring at me, signs like following me around, signs like posing like a model, signs like starting a conversation, and etc. And even with a woman giving me a combination of these signs & etc. they still don't hook up with me. But instead they respectfully decline. So really these women of today are not just rejecting men that they are not attracted to, but also the men they are attracted to. These women are just following anti male codes.
Women have huge advantages and confidence, why don’t they approach guys??
@Paul F they will loose control
lol no
The average women has less confidence than even most shy guys. They're very insecure deep down. Why do you think they spend all their time on social media/dating apps? Because they're desperate for validation.
Because they dont have to when men will do it for them
@@byteresistorBull💩they’re on there because they have an ego the size of Mount Everest. Mine is even bigger and I don’t approach them because they’re beneath me and I don’t want to catch a bs case.
You know, I’ve never heard this broken down quite that way. But you really hit the nail on the head. Because dating has turned into a real shitshow whether it’s face to face or online. And you’re the only person so far that I’ve heard look at the root of the problem.
To all the guys who know deep down they are willing to approach, don’t let this type of content bring you down. Learning to pick up women is better than being the creepy dude who doesn’t know sht
You just contradicted yourself in one comment. So, which is it? Become the creepy as fuck invader of women's spaces, cold approaching them unwelcome and uninvited? Or become the best version of yourself possible, maybe raising your dating marketplace value so that women will come to you? (or at least signal they are interested in having you approach them)
the volume/ quality that you want doesn’t just ‘come to you’. So many intelligent doctors, lawyers, businessmen I know in dead-end relationships or alone because of that mentality.
They are in those dead end relationships because, even though they are doctors, lawyers, and businessmen, they obviously have other traits which make them low-status men, with very low or no sexual marketplace value. As such, they do not attract the women they really want because they CAN'T. Sheesh! What the HELL is it with this modern day guru mentality of, "if you just believe in it and think it, you can have ANYTHING!!" What a Pollyanna complete crock of shit! Come off it, now! Those guys in dead end relationships have the option of trying to make their relationships better, or leave them and be alone.
Scott Gurstein In my experience (because i am an attorney and I spend most of my week stuck in my head for work) it isn’t that they have a value problem. They simply have a communication problem. The body language, hover chode behavior of being stuck in your head is death to game in day or night.
I’m not here to explain sht to anyone but here’s my realization. Learning pick up the right way doesn’t look like pick up. It’s not about doing tricks, it’s about realizing you’re enough. Your ancestors didn’t even had access to internet, and they fk some pssyy( thus why you here.) without learning “pick up.”
I've been telling my female friends forever that they are too passive and should approach guys but they say they'd be too scared. But I totally agree with you. Women are wayyyy too passive.
Well if this happens then how do women expect to meet someone, fall in love and start a family just like their parents and ancestors once did?
I also hate how it seems as if people are being conditioned to rely on online dating, computers have no emotions.
You know something I don't want to interact with some profile pic on the Internet, I want to approach women in person and nobody and no law is gonna stop me doing what my parents and their ancestors did.
FUCK ONLINE DATING!!!!.
Online dating is soul destroying
Online dating sites should have a moto on their front page saying: "Abandon hope all ye whom enter here" 😄
Cold approaching is not how anyone's ancestors met women, lmao. For the vast majority of humanity, people had arranged marriages. When arranged marriage ended, people would usually meet in high school and marry their high school sweethearts. For the people that were not lucky enough to have a high school sweetheart, they would meet someone in college or they would meet someone in their community (i.e. church, a neighbor, etc). Women are afraid of strangers. It's never been considered normal for men to approach women on the street. Relationships in the past always happened between people who were in the same community and already knew each other and trusted each other. The problem today is that we are becoming more antisocial as a species. People don't really have communities anymore. People don't take to their neighbors anymore or even know who they are. People are going to church less and less. People are socializing less and less. People today have less friends than our parents' generation did. Don't blame women when SOCIETY itself is fucked up. We live in a low-trust society where people don't care about each other and fear each other. We need to find a way to create communities again and make our society high-trust like it once was.
@@Ana-ls8rh
None of us are blaming women and what you say about people of today being anti social is unfortunately true and the media doesn't help plus people are also more interested in what A, B and C is doing on Twitter etc, so in a way we've made our own bed and we all have to lay in it.
@@Ana-ls8rh hahaha what a joke.
Spend decades "creating communities with trust again"
Or just approach women regularly wherever you go for a couple years until you find what you are looking for and move on with your life .
Men wanting to find a partner arnt interested in rebuilding fucking society to do so 😂
Women break their rules if the guy is hot enough. Just improve yourself and don't worry about women.
@shredded guy That's a fact! Theres good looking dudes out like me who's never even had a girlfriend before.
@@sasha1551 No offense bro but are you sure then you're good looking? Like if you get on Tinder, is your match list full?
@@agoogleuseranonymous2658 nah I’ve been shadow banned on all dating apps for swiping right too many times. And I can’t reset it because they use facial recognition.
It’s a power game, woman will never approach and loose the power they have
@Scorchy thank you!
sickening, and practically all tinder is. Nearly every woman on there is a self important narcissist, I get so grossed out when swiping
Its bad because all they want is validation, theyre not taking you or your time and effort seriously
I agree 100% and that is why I wish every man in this planet just stop using any tipe of dating site because women just have all this guys coming to them seeking their validation and getting all the attention they want to the point that it grows them out... if we man stoped using this app / dating site women will miss that and would start seeking for attention in the real world
The1986Julian gay and lesbian is gonna become the new straight at this rate.
@@The1986Julian well men can start by use the app but send no messages. then it cause thing to change because women have start send messages.
People dont know this but there are articles where women are complaining that men no longer approach them. After watching videos of women complaining about men talking or flirting with them at public places, men have simply walked away from the dating field.
not true. what girls mean by that is that they dont get approached by the guys they want. They still approached by hundreds of guys on social media.
If anything with the feminization of men, video games, porn, online dating, tendency for all of us to be buried in our phones, etc. I would think that on the whole women today are cold approached less today then they were say back in the 70s and 80s.
maxstone9999 yeah 💯 nobody cold approaches anymore-it used it be normal. I’ve never seen it in my life.
@@Lazymath007_ People get girlfriends from school/college/work social circles. But to be a player (to fuck multiple hot women) you have to cold approach, there is no other way, I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. Yh you can get a girl from online or social circle, but how hot are they gonna be and how will that get you a consistent flow of hot chicks? What happens once you've exhausted all of the girls from the social circle? How do you add new girls to the social circle? cold approach. So either way, you have to cold approach.
@@Lazymath007_ By not stopping some random person in public and demanding their attention like a social retard?
What will happen is women will approach, or make their interest known, in the top 20% of men.
Nah women basically never approach. I'm tall, good looking and make six figures at 25 years old. I've only been approached once. And I turned her down cuz I knew she just wanted to finesse me for free drinks.
This too. I heard from very good looking dudes that women will jump in their lives out of the blue(like randomly friend them on Facebook to start chatting). Wonder if it's true. I'm talking about the TOP of the TOP model guys. Doesn't seem to revolve around biceps and abs ... or even height but EYES! I think this is the most physical attractive feature for them in a man.
@@sasha1551 You're obviously not that good-looking if you've only been hit on once by a woman. Cope harder.
For some of us, cold approaching is all we have. Like for me, I'm not a bar/club guy at all so doing something like that in a public place like at university or at the park is pretty much my only avenue which I can control, as opposed to a luck-based situation where I find someone via a mutual friend or a similar crapshoot like Tinder.
amen
It's not worth it
@@SuperMurray2009 how so what would you rather do?
@@stiangam8258 warm approach
@@SuperMurray2009 so your limiting ur potensional because ur afraid
What guy is going to be against that, however, you are ignoring science from every perspective. Evolution and biology cannot be overridden. It's analogous to hoping that women change their preference for masculine men. And your anecdotal data of your partner's friend is a sample size of 1. I have multiple female friends that NEVER get approached and they keep telling me they WISH guys would.
ACtually Daniel, do a bit more research on human sexual behaviour and its history - There are actually many examples of matriarchal tribes where women are the approaches. We just live in a particularly patriarchal society with Christian/Muslim leanings. btw I don't just the word Patriarchal in the feminst sense, just in the sense that it's set up around males being the bosses. But that's more a result of those 'Jaweh' religions and less a definitive part of our 100s of thousands of years of evolution.
I'll take a look. That being said, cold approach works even better now because most people rely on apps. I'm not a fan of clickbait videos like this that aren't grounded by any real statistics.
This notion that too many men are doing cold approach isn't by any tangible data. I've never ever heard a girl tell me that too many men are hitting on her throughout the day. If anything, they have only expressed the opposite.
@@DanielSmilansky me, I'm the opposite. But I've also been told I don't present myself well so there's that, too.
@@DanielSmilansky I don't necessarily think women should approach,but these should use obvious choosing signals,alot of women have poor social skills and lack charisma.
Daniel Smilansky actually face to face is the worst it’s ever been
There are two issues I have with women who think men should stop cold-approaching:
1. Most men do not, in fact, cold approach, which dispels the myth that women can't walk around without getting hit on. The vast majority of men are too afraid to approach. Even at a college campus I RARELY see a guy approach a girl. It just doesn't happen.
2. Online dating is no better, because women on dating apps are a nightmare to deal with and hard to get out on dates. It's not their fault--it's the dating apps fault for allowing them to accrue so many matches at one time.
The bottom line is that cold-approaching is extremely healthy if done the proper way and much better than online dating. I should also add that I approached two girls today--both gave me their numbers and both texted back right away. And one of them actually thanked me for approaching her and said it made her day. So...there you go.
You my friend have a healthy realistic approach and opinion to life.
Thanks for this comment. At least some of us have some common sense 👍
so what the fuck should i do then? im gonna be attending a community college soon and im planning atleast to ask a girl out there, i can’t cold approach anywhere cause im too chicken and i don’t go to bars (due to religious reasons) or gyms for that matter.
women are being ovey dramatic and overly sensitive about being approach. they should be happy tha a stranger took their time of day to go talk to them. these women who complain deserve to be turn into the old cat lady thas single
Lol yes i agree.
I Never cold approached as a high value man. But the thing was that I was inexperienced and I lost many hot girls that gave me choosing signals due to no experience and fear of approaching. So as a lesson I made myself cold approach the hottest of the hottest, young, blue eyes, brown hair young German girl. I didn’t want to do this and I wanted to run away but I realised to myself that I am doing the same mistake again of not approaching. I am a high value man, i can’t be scared of a girl. I went there and got rejected due to flawed cold approach but guess what, it never shook me because now I am battle tested and now I wait for the girl who gives me choosing signals and this time will approach because if I can cold approach a 15/10 girl, it’s way easy to approach this beautiful chick wanting me to come over to her as they always did in the past but I missed out. So I took a sting from this hot chick once in order to improve myself and prepare myself for the next big thing coming. I don’t regret approaching her and getting rejected but I regret not talking to 11 to 12 girls giving me choosing signals due to lack of experience and approach fear. Now it’s no problem and it’s easier for me. I’ll will never cold approach again, only warm approach but I felt good to provide myself undeniable proof that I have balls of steel and can do anything and overcome my fears and anxiety. That’s peak confidence.
Moral of the story: Netherlands is the place to be
Let women do the choosing. They always WILL. But it's up to the man if he wants to deal with her or not. Every time I have let women fold their cards first it has ALWAYS worked for me. Every time I have folded mine first it has ended in rejection. Cold approaches don't work for me..maybe for you. But over time and what I have seen women are the initiators of interest 90% of the time
I’ve dated my share of women and am now married and over the years I’ve seen many people approach women. From what I saw and observed (And i can only speak from that), the rate of success with that always appeared to be very low. Perhaps the guys were doing it wrong. 🤷♂️I’ve seen a select few successfully get a number but I can’t say that it was high.
You're both right and wrong here. You're right that most men aren't good at it. The truth is that some men are very good at it.
@@Canadian_Eh_I no amount of "game" will help out of the man is not attractive
@ Armando Ramirez no amount of "game" will help out of the man is not attractive
It's been a while, but getting numbers isn't hard at all.....getting solid non flake numbers is a bit tougher.
Then how tf do people even get girlfriends in this world???
5:00 the categorical imperative by Kant..
situation won't change. women will remain passive as long as app like Tinder exist.
not saying that women won't go talk to a guy in real life, it's just this guy would be a 9 or a 10. not a normie. women start feeling that visual attraction for guys who are above 8, regardless of their own SMV. while men are attracted to women from a wide range of value (even 5).
I think that's mostly in Australia tho dude,I've lived in Greece and Sweden and it's nothing like that there. Its funny how Sweden has arguably the most beautiful women in the world yet they're not so up themselves like aussie girls are. Even the ones that don't wanna sleep with you or are interested in you in that way are friendly.
The most beautiful women are swarthy European women
Women that approach me gain my respect and have such a huge advantage over the women that play hard to get. At least in my opinion.
How many women approach you dumbass ?
@@versatileduplicity9313 Well... 'All' of them XD since I don't approach.
Jolly123123123 Yea not many, you fucking idiot ! Go out there and stop being a bitch, cold approach, get rejected, go out and cold approach until you stop getting rejected as much and begin to get some numbers !! Practice makes perfect, but nah, y’all scared of bitches !!
Jolly123123123 you’re pussy
@@versatileduplicity9313 I'm not interested in women that aren't willing to approach me. They have a different mindset from the women that I prefer.
You nailed it! Ive always said this. The reason women get bombarded is because there is no balance. Men feel desperate so they approach every woman they find attractive in hopes one will say yes. If women would start putting themselves out there it would be much more balanced and men wouldn't feel this pressure to approach everyone he sees. Of course...women arent going to do that. Why would they? Its easier to just complain about it rather than try to fix the problem. The solution is scary to them.
"That doesn't seem fair" - well, dating isn't fair to begin with.
that is why I think men should pursue other things, hobbies, career goals, retirement plan.
@@rickV-zy6eh thats cope though
rick4777 V Yeah but how does one remove an intense desire such as dating women?
All my girls the last 15 years exclusively came from approaching during the day. Ive never had more leverage and impact as during the last 3-4 years. Why? Basically all my competition is disappearing.. So please: continue scaring the shit out of young men with videos as this and continue (unintentionally) supporting the cultural consensus that "approaching is not done". Thank you.
Is this dating coach wrong? I think not!
@@scottgurstein Yes! So please stay inside! Thanks.
Who said anything about "staying inside?" Exaggerate and lob hyperbole, much? HUGE difference between respecting women's personal space and sexual privacy vs. shutting yourself inside a cave like a hermit. How about just respecting women, and going about your business doing things in life you want to do WITHOUT violating the rights of others? Is that OK?
@@scottgurstein Here ladies and gentlemen we have a prime example of the 2019 male mindset. Walking up to a cute girl and flirting with her is "MUH VIOLATION OF THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS". lol
@@scottgurstein Serious question for you though: how you meet women?
Two book recommendations: As A Man Thinketh by James Allen and What Do Women Want? by Daniel Bergner
First book recommendation focuses on the power of thoughts and the second book recommendation talks about how women’s sexual desires are similar to men. More importantly fellas, self actualization/self improvement will go a long, long way in life. Don’t go chasing every woman you see on the street. Work on your self first!
I like to be proactive with a man whom I find attractive and attracted to me , but seems it’s aggressive when i initiate the communication and even more , maybe not at first stage but in later stage ... it’s hard to understand what men really like that women do about them .. when you play shy it’s not enough, when the game is intense , man is scared. Damn it , now I wonder who is more complicated, Man or Woman
I must mention in Germany it’s hard to meet a man even though I am around of half population of single men :)
Nati, if you have made it VERY clear to a man with whom you are having a conversation that you find him attractive, at that point the ball IS in his court. At that point, it IS his fault if he does not get the hint and suggest taking things to the next level. What we are talking about here is how inadvisable and unwise it is for men to just cold approach any woman they find attractive, whether he has body language invitation from her or not. No non-verbal welcome mat = no interest = the guy needs to leave her the hell alone and move along.
You just have to be direct. Even if you were to go to into the street and tell a random dude you like him, you have a 98% success rate. Damn what is so hard about this?? 😭😭
I do not care what the matrix or society thinks and says, I approach women every day and more often than not I get a receptive response. Women love getting approached, one of the times where women do not like getting approached is when guys they ARE NOT attracted to hits on them. Stop caring, be fearless and BE MEN gentlemen!
Pence Rules - I have no inclination to talk to a girl on the street / club / bar at all. And in the #MeToo era - I simply have no need to have a false allegation leveled my way for a 'Hello'.
Let them have cats - a whole box of them.
Invest in cat food brother. That is a stock that is going up and in all honesty I don't think you could go wrong. They wanted this shit now they can rot in it.
Just 2 weeks ago I saw a girl in a barista bar and smiled. She smiled back and I walked by. Turned around, our eyes met again and I kept on walking. So 5 mins later I just went back and asked her if she wants to drink another coffee with me and we had a very connective and nice conversation.
Got her number and texted her like 6 hours later at 9pm.
She was very responsive, asked if i still went to the gym that day, asked for my IG name...
So next day I texted her again. Took her super long to respond. I was in bed sleeping already so I saw it on Monday but there was nothing to respond to.
Was waiting for 2 days then to see if shes interested but she never messaged me.
So I wanted to try a last time on wednesday. She read it like 2 mins later but never responded.
Idk she seemed very interested in the beginning
Chad on Insta or Tinder got in, you go down the list
She probably saw your IG and felt it wasn’t up to scratch because she sounds like she was interested.
John Doe irrelevant
Interesting video. I am from Asia and I can say that only 3-5% men here approach or are in daygame after about 6 years in it. I doubt all or most men will ever do it. Also a guy does not stay in approach mode forever, the game improves, they learn, get better...at a point a lot of women love the fact when we can approach and talk, it makes their day. Helping men read body language or signs would be a big plus. A guy can always go and talk to people or girls in public, might appear creepy but to stop that we have to put an end to human interactions.
Its nice if a girl takes the initiative but its rare plus leading is on the men, as part of the masculine side. I think this issue is being made too big here.
Human interaction is already dead. Girls wear headphones, on phone, ignores, "I have bf" ...
Am I the only one who can't believe that there are places where women talk/approach you first 😂 Mad, I thought those places didn't exist 😂
It really depends on the culture I guess, in Norway where I live it's not uncommon that women approach men when going out. That's happened to me a lot, even on the dance floor sometimes.
Yes, it's the same in the Netherlands. :)
The female currency is ATTENTION why do you think they workout, wear makeup and wear stylish clothes.
True and the best punishment is to withdraw your attention!
its for themselves.
@@mathiasnitz9280 thats false most women would rather not workout eat fatty foods and wear no makeup. Do you really believe they starve themselves for their self?@
@@d.radford273 it was sarcastic.
A lot of them do it for themselves, just like you do
Excellent video. I agree with with everything. Living in Adelaide where women stand with their backs to guys to avoid all male contact then complain tinder is full of creeps. There is no solution. Other than move to freakin Holland.
Women don’t usually approach men NOT because they fear rejection but rather they don’t know they can. The gender role of men approaching women is not questioned enough on a greater scale for a woman to then try and approach a man when society contradicts that. Most women believe that approaching a man is unattractive and gives up “the chase” for the men.
Social media can work in your favor, especially if you want to break away from the norm. Recently, I gave this girl I was interested in my facebook username and told her she can add me if she wanted to. I had it already written down on a card when I handed it to her. She added me right away. I could've just asked her for a her number, but I decided to give her the option with no pressure.
Of course, I screwed up the whole thing a few weeks later, but that's another story. :)
This is a really fair perspective I think, it's clear the current way of things isn't really easy for either party, but there really is no obvious practical solution, if people in general just were more open minded and honest about what they want, that's one utopia
You Sir, are a true visionary
the problem is women. They dont want to approach but they also dont want the wrong guy to approach. They want the guy to be the mind reader. Brad Pitt can approach and they are ok with that. but the fat ugly guy? "Eww, stop harrassing me! why do all these guys think they can hit on women?"
Your solution is, in fact, probably the only actual solution. But do I see women actually stepping up? Hell no!
And so, the only other possibility is men stop approaching and women get over themselves and allow men to start approaching again without turning it into a federal case. Or, I see a lot of people of both sexes simply going their own way and accepting a life of loneliness. Those who do approach and dont get rejected will get the girl, and those that dont wont. And women who want the guy but never say what they want will be alone with their cats.
4:34 got my subscrption. Good to know that, although this channel is about date only, this man is really inteligent. Keep studying, guys.
What he's talking about after that is basically Kant's categorical imperative if Im not mistaken, not Greek Phylosophy tho
Yes I believe you're right actually - my mistake
This is a complicated problem. I’m a normal looking guy, have decent friends and a 30+ lay count (not bragging but I’m not incompetent around women). But just starting out doing cold approach there is so much margin to accidentally appear needy or creepy, even though im just a normal man with a healthy life and positive intentions.
This makes me want to learn it even more because I clearly convey myself in an odd manner or have some nerves that need to be blunted.
This is a very interesting dilemma because yea of course I don’t want to be harassing women.
A 30+lay count ? LOL
30 Plus lay count? But not bragging? A real player don't need to throw numbers out .
dcosb09 it isn’t even high tho 😂
ok it’s 90.
100% I get super frustrated feeling like I always have to approach and put myself out there and make the first move and also deal with rejection and women being freaked out and upset etc. and then even when I can tell a girl is interested in me she will NEVER come up and talk to me (except on rare occasions I have been picked up by girls lol) usually the most they will do is stare at me intermittently or maybe grab my ass in a club. And then even when I can tell a girl likes me and we have hung out a bit they often play this game of disinterest so I’ll pull away and then they’ll get upset and start chasing me but as soon as I come towards them or pursue them they become disinterested or dismissive again. It’s really an insane dynamic and makes me want to give up on dating altogether I just don’t know how to win honestly.
they love the attention. women are attentions validation seeking monsters. you see it in tinder, social media etc etc. taking pictures like their lives depend on it.
I think the dynamic is less to do with men/women and more the fundamental problem of large concentrations of people in cities. Take your use of the idea that a moral question can be settled by asking about the downstream consequences of everyone engaging in the same behaviour...
In the modern world, having everyone decide they want to eat avocado on toast for breakfast creates enormous downstream problems. Fads of anything just aren't sustainable in the modern world with our massive population, especially in large cities, e.g New York.
A woman flirted with me and then told me she was married via text. I have had a lot of going through a divorce type of chicks give me sex or offer it to me. I haven't had very many single women do such a thing. The game is all messed up.
I do agree that there are guys out there who can absolutely creep girls out by approaching them. Mostly because they are socially and emotionally uncalibrated in their actions - i.e. too pushy , too needy , maybe chasing the girl even after she clearly indicated that she is not willing to interact etc.
But apart from that scenario which will probably occur once out of every 100 times I couldn’t see why it will be untenable for women to be approached by men - in the end girls are not made from sugar - they will not melt from it. Just like you don’t give a flying f*ck about how many promoters or beggars have approached you during the day, the same way cold approach should be something that girls just accept as a reality.
But the most funny thing is that the absolute majority of men wouldn’t even consider approaching girls they find attractive sober during the day - it’s beyond their reality.
So I guess the problem of girls being fed up with guys approaching them is far less prominent in comparison with the problem of guys being way too passive in meeting girls.
Women don’t like guys trying to game the system. Guys are expected to just inherently know how to pick up women
Nor would men like women learning to game the system ;)
Ya the cold approach isnt going anywhere soon. Not many guys have the courage to go up to a women and say hi. Not only that the idea that women are just getting hit on non stop is not likely happening, most of these are from women don't like the men that approach them and say they got harrased.
I think Zan Perrion adressed this. Women actually often "approach" first by indirect means. They will give you plenty of signals that they're interested before you even approach them. The problem is most men (myself included in the past) are completely oblivious to those signs, which leads to frustrated women (either those who want to be approached and are not approached, and those who dont want to be approached that are being approached). Another argument would be the dychotomy between the feminine and the masculine. The feminine is more subtle, indirect, flow. The masculine is more direct, penetrative energy. If the woman actually has to step up and do the approach, she has to step into her masculine, which turns her off in that 1) she has to step into her masculine 2) HE is not stepping into his masculine, which is something that would turn her on. Just food for thought.
Well it’s clear to me now, I need to move to the Netherlands.
For real though I definitely have compassion for women. You just have to imagine it from their perspective, how annoying, awkward and downright scary it might be to constantly get bothered by guys, who’s intentions are unknown. There does need to be a solution though because if men aren’t allowed to approach women and women never approach men we have a problem. The two girls I had my first relationships with back in high school both approached me and if they hadn’t those relationships never would have happened. I wish more women would do this. On the other hand I don’t like being approached by women I don’t find attractive (which has happened on a few occasions as well) but that just comes with the territory.
Ok but why do you want to move to Netherlands?
the solution :
1- be handsome.
2- avoid being unattractive
ok incel
You don't have to be a model but do followe rule 2 and avoid being unattractive by working out, dressing well, hygiene, and being a decent person
@@shodak9445 may be in 2003 not anymore. Everything is fast now and accessible for women. Why bother with a hygienic clean "decent guy" when you can have hot dudes (face, hair, height) within the reach of few clicks ?
I'm not saying those type of relationships are healthy, women become addicted to hot guys who cheat on them, they become bitter and cynical, they wake up at 35 without any long term relationship or kid... by they just can't help. It's deep in their instincts to look for the best genetics.. since society, moral values and laws has changed, now with the apps providing the hit dudes stream, there's nothing stopping or refraining their instincts.
Imagine having access to 8 and 9 when you click on a button. You think your behaviour won't change ? You think you will still bother with that smart but average looking girl ? Probably not.
honeslty fuck the media, cold approach shouldnt be shamed, most women want men to “have the balls” to talk to them. ever since i got into game it just something i do. i care less if going up to and talking to a girl i find attractive is seen as “creepy” or predator like.
I fully agree that women should start being more direct when they like a man. They should stop playing games or sending mixed signals. Way easier for both parts. Less work for men, more power and initiative to women.
There is a major difference between a PUA and a dating coach. the goal of the PUA is to get you laid where a dating coach the goal is your own personal goal with women. There are some PUAs that are good but I've been watching dating coaches and PUAs to know the difference.
Absolutely!
Women aren’t going to change and approach men. Even if they do, it won’t be for several generations. The only thing we as men can do is have good approach etiquette such as appropriate settings, reading the “room” (does she have headphones, talking on the phone, in a hurry, etc), and most importantly, taking rejection with grace. If you’re going to be in the game, you need to embrace rejection and take it as a learning experience. In the social media age, now we run the risk of having our reputations destroyed. We as men are at a crossroads of sorts. We need to decide if the game is worth it, or to pursue fulfillment through other avenues.
the netherlands sounds like a nice place.
Something that has occurred to me. Yes most women have had negative experiences with men yet apparently most men are not predators? There seems to be a disconnect there.
So I didn't reply to your other message as it was just antaganistic - but I'll reply to this one - For each individual man who predates on women, he will predate on far more than just one woman. This is probably somethign we can agree on so far...
So if each predatory man impacts the lives of more than two woman, then every woman can experience predatory men with less than half the male population being predatory. In truth each predatory man impacts the lives of many women in his life, far more than 2, 3, or 4.
So most men aren't predators or aholes.
Then you also need to add to this the fact that the majority of women are dating a small mintority of the same men.. it's somethign of a parety distribution with roughly 80% of women dating the same 20% of men. In that bunch of guys is a far higher percentage of narcissits, players and the l ike - men who are fine tuned to manipulate and deceive to get what they want.
This is easily seen in the actual numbers when we look at the research.
So yes - here's your disconnection - it's that you aren't accounting for the statistics making it perfectly viable that most men aren't predatory while most women experience predatory men.
@@SchoolOfAttraction that makes sense but still not great news as im guessing the decent ones get snapped up quickly.
I just got my first complaint for approaching. And it sucks.
Yeah I'd say people are especially paranoid now with the virus going around too - it sucks
An extreme Feminist has written it ...!
Right. Whenever I come across an article like this even dating coaches. It just seems the advice they give is to just be a different person entirely. Comes off as being a fake person for the sole reason of getting laid or getting a relationship. Which won't last long. Basically don't go anywhere that you're not interested in.
It does feel like a numbers game. Women do need to be a little more blatant. I've seen this. Mindset goes like this, "Let's just assume no body finds me attractive or talk to everyone cause there MIGHT be one that is attracted."
Meanwhile, if there was an indication. Yea. It would work.
· in most important ways, i lived the life of a hot chick for many years
· i'm straight
· but i was a famous male model in gay societies
· i worked gay night clubs
· and i couldn't walk 2 blocks in gayborhoods without being flirted with by males
· and, on average, flirtation by gay males is way more sexually explicit and direct than flirtation by straight males
· i don't have much empathy for the sexual struggles of females
. their sexual suffering isn't anywhere close to the average straight male's sexual suffering
· this is like comparing a pinch to a lashing
I get very little attention from women but I tried Grinder and I became chad. Pretty scary. I'm cute but not masculine looking, small frame, only 5'10" etc.
Its very uncommon that women approach guys. I only know one person who had his now girlfriend approach him. Now their together.
So maybe I zoned out or something but this guy didn’t give a solution at all. All he did was fantasize about a situation that isn’t reality. A world where women approach men as much as men approach women instead of being shy? Yeah how do men make that happen? What are men supposed to do in the meantime while we wait for this fictional world to become real? You’d like to know what we think? How about you stop saying you have a solution when you all you have is a dream. I wish I could downvote you.
I think you did zone out bud - The title LITERALLY SAYS "WITH NO OBVIOUS SOLUTION" so um... yeah...
@School Of Attraction ugh…I think my brain skimmed over the word “no”. Sorry about that. I’m gonna leave my comment up so everyone can laugh and call me stupid.
The solution in the mean time is propinquity. Look it up
The only way I can get a woman is if I approach them and they are cool with it. I have officially given up after years of using dating apps and being ghosted. Women get hundreds of matches per day on dating apps so the odds of actually meeting a woman off of an app is incredible low. The best chance is if I approach them. But the problem is i'm too scared and I don't know what to say. " Hey I just wanted to let you know I think you're really cute and was wondering if I can take you out to dinner some time?" would that be a good opener?
Well I wouldn't use that line - To walk up and say - "hey, I saw you over here and thought you looked really cute so I wanted to come say hello" that is a good start (during the day at least) - from there you want to have a bit of a chat /banter before suggesting you have a coffee sometime. That of course is the very quick explanation of the best way to go about it ;)
bro if you wanna approach a female you find attractive just casually walk up, say hi, and talk to her in the same respectful manner as you would a friend. and for the love of god don’t use a cornball ass pickup line unless it’s a somewhat funny lame joke. hell you could start a conversation by complementing an article of clothing she’s wearing as long as it’s appropriate( heyy miss, I really do like your shoes. where did you get them from).
but if they think you are just some short skinny or fat unattractive guy, then they will cut the conversation and say "oh anyway, I gotta get going, see ya" and walk off real quick
They are being childish, they'll latch onto anything to hate men.
Your best video yet. Great job providing a balanced outlook
Cheers Yasin, glad you enjoyed it!
I appreciate this perspective, but highly disagree with cold approach being doomed. If you're cold approaching by going in with good intentions (appreciating her beauty, curiosity of her, being present without an agenda) then rarely will you run into issues. Most women love being approached this way. It is the masculine's role to approach and take the lead. If you consider yourself a masculine male, and you like feminine women, it's your job to vulnerably take a chance and put yourself out there in the face of rejection.
100% agree man. I have had girls thank me for approaching them. Sure i have days when it never goes well, but thats normal. Either way woman love it. Dont listen to this feminist bullshit about cold approach being dead. Cold approach by retarded autistic men..well thats a whole different subject
if you are ugly, girls will NOT appreciate you approaching her. facts they will say whatever to end the conversation "I have bf, sorry, see ya"
@@lyfeisfun I Never cold approached as a high value man. But the thing was that I was inexperienced and I lost many hot girls that gave me choosing signals due to no experience and fear of approaching. So as a lesson I made myself cold approach the hottest of the hottest, young, blue eyes, brown hair young German girl. I didn’t want to do this and I wanted to run away but I realised to myself that I am doing the same mistake again of not approaching. I am a high value man, i can’t be scared of a girl. I went there and got rejected due to flawed cold approach but guess what, it never shook me because now I am battle tested and now I wait for the girl who gives me choosing signals and this time will approach because if I can cold approach a 15/10 girl, it’s way easy to approach this beautiful chick wanting me to come over to her as they always did in the past but I missed out. So I took a sting from this hot chick once in order to improve myself and prepare myself for the next big thing coming. I don’t regret approaching her and getting rejected but I regret not talking to 11 to 12 girls giving me choosing signals due to lack of experience and approach fear. Now it’s no problem and it’s easier for me. I’ll will never cold approach again, only warm approach but I felt good to provide myself undeniable proof that I have balls of steel and can do anything and overcome my fears and anxiety. That’s peak confidence.
i agree. women need to start doing pick up too to start leveling out the playing field. i‘m very shy and i‘m really having trouble to act „alpha“ (eventhough i’m getting there) because it is just not who i am. they want men to be more „feminine“ but they don‘t even bother adapting too. i’m a progressive, so feminism imo is okay, but it is also needs to be debated just as any other topic that impacts our daily lifes... but unfortunately that‘s not happening. it‘s a religion nowadays and progressives start becoming priests instead of reasonable people which is a shame because that is the reason the conversative mgtow movement (which is now a sort of male feminism) is gaining momentum.
True. Girls are like being more feminine is good for guys, but when u are they act like u are asexual. Im fashion designer and i wear wide spectrum of clothes every day. When i wear masculine outfit, girls wanna have sex with me and when i wear more feminine outfit they dont. Easy like that. And i must say my "more feminine" outfits are not extreme at all.
Society will tell you to go on Tinder like normal people. Sad, but that's the way the world is going -- online dating as the only socially acceptable way to meet people.
But Online dating is becoming less and less efficient - It's not working for either gender very well so there will still need to be other options made available... It is quite sad.
I refuse to use Tinder for those used up Thots... might as well pay for a hooker. Tinder is the same in my eyes, just instead of paying her directly you pay by taking on a date and shit. If all you’re looking for is a hookup and all she wants is attention and money then it’s practically prostitution.
amen
Dude I super like your logic especially on the fact that women expect us men to be sort of mind readers !! This is crazy ...at the same time they get made if you fail to mind read. From where I am women will clearly flirt with u but then when u make the move u only end up being frustrated.... Its crazy
women complain that men approach them and then when they come home at night they wonder why they are alone smh....i just dont get them
This will never go mainstream man. Guys have AA very few will do the personal development work. Its great approach anxiety exists that's why guys can't approach. Your overthinking a bit too much. From Todd V: The very existence of Approach Anxiety is GREAT news for you.
Let me explain:
The majority of men don’t have the balls to cold approach women, and will never take the time to learn how to do it properly.
(The majority of men also barely get laid and have next to zero choice when it comes to quality women).
So if you know how to deal with approach anxiety and can actually approach in ways that women find attractive and enticing, you will have a tremendous advantage over the majority of men.
Which leads me to my next point…
I think the whole majority of men don't approach or barely get laid is way overplayed in the industry.
Seen some coaches claim that if you approach a woman, you're doing something that 99% of men will never do. Once again, an un realistic figure.
@@daved2976 Hey Dave maybe not 99% but atleast 95% or 90% I would say. Most men suck with women. Most don't do the work
I did a cold aproach and got a date and kissed. Seriously don't overthink just ask. I had the luck she was interest too but you can't controll everything.
The whole "PUA" phenomenon is very stupid, when the so called PUAs are taking pride of how many women they have slept with and do cold approaches because they want to hit their numbers. The PUAs ruin it for men who genuinely just want to find a gf/wife
I don't think we have to change the rules. Men being the pursuers and women being the pursuees but I've definitely gotten frustrated with women's expectations in the whole back and forth. Particularly with texting. I fair pretty well in person when it comes to the interaction. Getting acquainted. Making her laugh. Getting the number. But texting after? Doesn't matter how, colorful, funny, smooth, or well timed my messages are. Follow all the tips. It fails. The most frustrating are when you strike a great convo and then it ends. Out of nowhere. I remember when women chased me. I've been with 10's. I've had playboy models. Dead serious. I'm not bragging. I'm nothing special but the change has been dramatic and it happened over night. I'm fucking lost. Any input would be great.
Leave texting to only setting up next date meetings. Nothing else.
Telling women to start taking a more active dating role won't work.
You can't really change biology and dating roles, women WANT men to be the active ones, the leaders, that's one of the many things that women like in men.
That's why men are the ones approaching, inviting to a date, propose...etc
Actually that's a common misperception - There's absolutely no solid agreement what he biologocical record tells us about female sexual behaviour. The old story about 'women needing protection' is totally fake-science. Hunter-Gatherer humans lived in tribes where almost all members were distantly related. Children were likely raised by the tribe as well as the direct parents, if a father wasn't around/known, the child/mother weren't at any added risk. Plenty of current hunter-gatherer tribes that still exist prove that point. So it's definitely not necessarily a biology thing
@@SchoolOfAttraction I'm not talking about the protection, and even if you talk about the tribes raising and protecting children, who were the ones protecting ? - Men, even if the father was not around.
Besidea, men love with their eyes, so as a man you can you approach the one you find attractive, a woman needs to get to know you and her attraction towards the guy either raises, or lowers as the interaction goes.
So the "burden" of getting to know each other lies on the men.
There is a solution and its much better than cold approach. Rather than walking up and practicing lines or routines casually talk to women like your already friends. (Girl walking by, waitress, delivery driver) Then create chemistry (flirt). Literally starting casual makes everything else
spontaneous and authentic.
if ur ugly, she will NOT flirt back
Citing Kant's categorical imperative and saying it's Greek philosophy... Smh
You could be right, I was sure it was ancient Greek - I consume a book a week, I retain the concepts more than the details that have no impact on the concept - a good idea isn't more or less good because it came up in Kant's era or in Ancient times. So if I'm wrong, I'm sorry, but the concept remains.
They're angry, but this is the type of complex stuff men have to do to even come close to a woman. If left up to us men, it'd all be MUCH simpler 🤷🏾♂️
Haha yes, just look at gay man dating - you have grindr to get easy sex! But then you know, I get contacted regularly by gay men saying that "yeah it's easy to get sex, but super difficult to find a guy who wants to just love you and be in a relationship - especially becuase it's so superficial" there's a dark side to either strategy.
I definitely agree.. Last weekend I took my 20 year old cousin to the Beach hotel in Byron, as he was up from Canberra, then discovered he is a well trained pickup artist and an incredible wingman. Within 5 mins of entering the bar a group of women from the Gold Coast invited us to their table, one of the girls that was chasing me, practically put her number into my phone and wants to catch up again.
Haha, yeah, Gold Coast women are really fun to pick up, and Byron Bay often as more single women than single men, it's like a magnet for them.
It's like a magician being upset at someone exposing their secrets. Not many women will jump on board with being the one approaching.
If approaching women on streets are going to get ban , it can increase the depression among men and women.
?? online dating and social media where all guys LIKE the girls photos??
BS - Day/Street game rules!
Smile at a girl, she smiles back.
Then say "hi" and she says "hi" back...
The problem is that not all women that like you will smile back and many women who smile back are doing so for your attention and have no intention of getting with you. I have heard many stories from dudes confirming this.
Yep
@@elevatingjack5281 You shouldn't go in expecting to get with someone on cold approach based on the entry.
Go in with the intention of making hot girls laugh and talk to you and you'll know if you can close by the end of it.
@@fvkijay There are women who will do all of that and still refuse to date you so that is not the most sound strategy. There are alot of manipulative time wasters.
Elevating Jack My point is you should never expect a date through cold approach.
Crazy girls be quoting so much about relationships goals or standards but are one who are nervous and clueless when starting a relationship.
Hahah - they're working on 'manifesting the right man' like some kind of rain dance - rather than working on themselves first.
This was a very pleasantly balanced dissemination of a pretty thorny topic. It’s certainly true that no one benefits from a societal scenario where both sexes are afraid to engage each other.
I can’t count the number of times I’ve had my headphones in and been otherwise occupied/not at all receptive to interaction with anyone beyond passing politeness, let alone having to talk to a man I don’t know. As a person who struggles with shyness, inventing excuses or trying to gently decline advances is a distressing exercise even if you don’t know the other person and will likely never see them again. That being said, I very much prefer a scenario where the onus is on me to initiate - and if I end up alone, it is because *I* am not trying hard enough to find someone. And when it comes to rejection, my dad has always referred to it as a ‘character-building exercise’; we could all stand to develop a thicker skin.
It’s very uncommon to find someone who appears to be sympathetic to both men and women and their respective struggles - I’m going to have to go watch the rest of your videos now.
What's your point? Man waits to women get initiative?
The solution... Build and maximize your SMV, spot choosing/attraction signals from women while you're out in the world, then approach, and continue the interaction as you would after any cold approach. This is no longer cold approach. It's warm approach.
Solution is simple... just use "Fractionation"... it's a non- threatening way of approaching women..
sorry disagree if you have value know how to carry yourself you can do it
dude in Scandinavia, women pay drinks to guys if they are interested! Equal opportunities also means equal obligations. As Uncle Ben once said: "with more power comes more responsibility" .
Absolutely! I've noticed this to be a more common thing in northern european countries - and thath's how it should be.
another problem, female stares at u. u look back and smile. she is still looking at you but no facial expresion
I'm not with this video. But I do like most your stuff