Whether or not REH wrote the first shared universe, he was so incredibly far ahead of his time and left us way too soon. It's incredible how long his legacy has lasted and will continue to last 💪
@@Mr.Cheese113 there was a story I read by Stephen King about a professor who got an iPad and could connect into a another universe where famous authors lived and produced more works than here. A pink iPad I think. He was classified literature like Faulkner, Stephenson, so I always wondered what if Howard hadn't died but lived another 30 or so years. He was working on an original out space novel Almuric. What other kinds of things could he have done? Has anyone read the teel James Glenn Bob Howard adventures. In them Bob is still alive with the money from writing he meets vampire family, Hitler as a good guy and Lawrence of Arabia as a bad guy and even goes to the fairy court for a boxing match and poetry contest.
@@dennisthornton4434I remember this one, the story is "Ur". King wrote this for the release of the new kindle. All yuz yanks are blessed to have such literary giants.
Never heard of Bran Mak Morn till 3 weeks ago when I listened to audiobooks on YT. He is now my fave over Conan .Also started getting into Conrad and the other guy 😂
This is my first time watching a channel and it's great thank you for talking about dark Agnes she's one of those mysterious characters I don't know about but thank you I hope they're developer more at Titan comics keep up the great work
*Hot Topicky!* LMAO! Awwwwwwww, the guest appearance of your pup was worth watching the video! He needs his own back story.. I am sure he is linked to many doggos way back to Atlantis! 😉 Love how you connected all the REH characters in his universe. Also enjoyed how the Serpent Coiled Ring traveled throughout REH's yarns. Thanks again for another great video!!!
As much as i hate multi verse crap im loving battle of the black stone and am excited to see whats bext. I was looking into these characters and I see that Solomon Kane and the chick had appeared before in the Savage Avengers
So cool to see the kind of in-depth, insider info that hardcore Howard-heads would have written up in fanzines thirty or forty years ago show up in a well-made You Tube video reaching a wide audience. Good work, Shawn and company.
@@conanthebarbarianofficial Damn, I was three-quarters asleep when that was typed. I meant Kull is my favorite Non-Conan character. Thanks for catching that bugger.
Hey Sean, just a quick question. Remember when I broached the subject of a Conan/Vampirella cross over, let's just say for arguments sake I wrote the damn thing myself, who would I send to?
Edgar Rice Burroughs shared universe started with the moon maid 1923 or even earlier with his first book a Princess of Mars, where Edgar Rice Burroughs would use himself in the prologue as a framing device to tell the story. Another example is the 1914 The Outlaw of Torn, set in 13th century England where there is a Lord Greystoke... (Tarzan's name is John Clayton, Lord Greystoke)
Technically, Lovecraft and Howard's works were in the same world. But honestly, that strengthens the video's claim even more. I mean, A shared world where Conan, Solomon Kane, Kull, and Cthluhu are all in the same universe? Sign me up!
Can you do an interview with James Lovegrove? I loved his Sherlock Holmes Cthulhu Casebooks, I read them before I discovered REH and now I can see at least one clear influence in the first book. I'm excited for his Conan novel, I've preordered that and all of the Titan trade paperback Conan comics
Howard's shared universe is now technically part of the Marvel expanded universe. Marvel has been publishing comics featuring Solomon Kane, Kull, and Conan for over 50 years. Red Sonja was a Marvel creation, and there was an issue of What If? that teamed Conan with Thor by way of a rip in time created by Odin.✌️
Well all the stores of Robert E Howard in the Howerverse are still part of the Cthulhu Mythos so yes they predated all the shared universes from fictional franchises.
Was it just me or did the physical description of the "Last Atlantean" from Moon of Skulls sound like the Thulsa Doom James Earl Jones portrayed in the 80s Conan film.
don't forget death stalcker its highly hinted in death stalcker 2 that they share same universe with conan and conan was a legendary hero in the far past in the world of death stalcker.
I never knew in til now , that Solomon Kane and Conan were living in the same universe till now. Since the stories are so different, and in different time periods . But I have always been a fan of Conan going to the Marvel years.But that’s a sweet fact on the Howard Universe dude . And you do on the Conan tv 📺 show from the late nineties. 👍
Could Greek mythology be considered a shared universe? Absolutely-but remember, we're talking about a modern shared universe, where fictional stories are created for entertainment, not religious belief. In the 1930s, hardly anyone was worshipping Conan, Tarzan, or Gandalf! Only the COOL ones. 😎
@@conanthebarbarianofficial Fair point. Taking that into account, I'd say the Cuthulu mythos predates Conan as a shared universe as they are both part of the same universe and Lovecraft was first. (Hyborea is the pre-historic version of the more modern Cuthulu mythology, they share a few elder gods. And Lovecraft and Howard were penpals.)
@@AngelusNielson Yes! The Lovecraft circle - they are mentioned. I encourage you to revisit the conclusion of our video. Jules Verne and the often-unmentioned Alexandre Dumas were among the earliest modern authors in the 1800s to connect characters across stories. We also touch on Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith, but the central point is that Robert E. Howard set a new standard for shared universes. He crafted an entire history spanning nearly a millennium, with deeper connections between stories and characters than had ever been seen before. One could argue that Tolkien expanded on this idea by developing languages and a more detailed secondary world, but Howard beat him to it!
Hate to quibble, but I don't think the Atlanteans of Moon of Skulls is any way related to Kulls Atlantis. They were brown skinned and totally unlike the proto-Gael Kull and his kin. Also the Picts weren't related to the Gaels/Irish. The Cimmerians were their ancestors,not the Picts. There is some shared universe in REH, but I think you took it a little too far. Still did a fine job.
I hear you, but considering that Kull’s Atlanteans existed tens of thousands of years earlier, and the ones Solomon Kane encounters are an offshoot from much later, it stands to reason they would have appeared quite different by Kane’s time. Keep in mind, Atlantis was uncivilized and consisted of many tribes, potentially with varying appearances and agendas. Also, we’re fully aware that the Cimmerians are ancestors of the Irish. We never stated that the Picts were related to either the Cimmerians or the Irish in the video. If this confusion stems from the music choice, we selected Scottish music because Bran's adventures take place around what is now the Scottish Highlands. Thanks, for the kind words!
@@conanthebarbarianofficialI'm sorry but you did say the Picts were related to the Irish in the El Borak section. Listen again. I appreciate your enthusiasm for REH but I'm right here.
@@brenthatcher5748"Gordon describes himself as being of Highland Scotch and Black Irish ancestry, ethnic groups generally considered to be descendants of the Picts." The Picts interbred and eventually faded from history. The Picts of that time inhabited a vast region, stretching from the Scottish Highlands to the British Isles and parts of Ireland. Hope this clears the confusion!
The Atlantean in the "Moon of Skulls" says that they worshiped "Valka and Hotah", gods that Kull regularly swore by. The "brown" Atlanteans appear in two other stories, "Skull-Face" and the "Gods of Bal-Sagoth." The latter is a Turlogh O'Brien story. Turlogh also appeared in "The Dark Man" which references Bran Mak Morn. So there is no question the "brown" Atlanteans are part of the Howardverse. But you're absolutely right and that they seem very different then the prehistoric Atlanteans of Kull's time. They are more technologically advanced and have established a maritime empire with colonies on the mainland. But given the time of Kull was 80 or 90,000 years before the hyborian age, that's plenty of time for the Atlanteans two have become more advanced before the great cataclysm. And even in Kull's time, the seven kingdoms were in decline and the barbarians were on the rise. I talked about this some in my chapter in Conan Meets the Academy. I suspect that Howard was getting some of the idea of different atlantean races from the theosophist William Scott Elliott. Howard's "brown" Atlanteans have a lot of similarity with Elliott's Toltec atlanteans.
We mention the Lovecraft circle in the video! That said - Howard's work on his own - to connect his characters and build his secondary world is worthy of celebration!
OK this was a super annoying video to watch with way too many "more on that later" and "stick around to find out". There are better ways to write videos like this that don't require so many of those teasers.
![เปิดใจ "อาจารย์เบียร์ คนตื่นธรรม" อดีตเคยสุดทุกทาง ถ้าใช้หนี้หมดไปบวชแน่ l [Nickynachat]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/IxeE0xVhy08/mqdefault.jpg)
Whether or not REH wrote the first shared universe, he was so incredibly far ahead of his time and left us way too soon. It's incredible how long his legacy has lasted and will continue to last 💪
Very hard to argue with that!
@@Mr.Cheese113 there was a story I read by Stephen King about a professor who got an iPad and could connect into a another universe where famous authors lived and produced more works than here. A pink iPad I think. He was classified literature like Faulkner, Stephenson, so I always wondered what if Howard hadn't died but lived another 30 or so years. He was working on an original out space novel Almuric. What other kinds of things could he have done? Has anyone read the teel James Glenn Bob Howard adventures. In them Bob is still alive with the money from writing he meets vampire family, Hitler as a good guy and Lawrence of Arabia as a bad guy and even goes to the fairy court for a boxing match and poetry contest.
@@dennisthornton4434I remember this one, the story is "Ur". King wrote this for the release of the new kindle. All yuz yanks are blessed to have such literary giants.
I wish Howard could've lived to 80-90!!Man...imagine the stories!!!Thanks!
We got so many in his short life, hard to imagine how much more he would have written!
Never heard of Bran Mak Morn till 3 weeks ago when I listened to audiobooks on YT. He is now my fave over Conan .Also started getting into Conrad and the other guy 😂
That's awesome to hear!
Little do you know that fur baby would rule ALL AGES
Aye! He has lived countless lives - perhaps the reincarnation of Slasher from Beyond the Black River!
Big fan of the father of the Sword and Sorcery. Robert E. Howard is the G.O.A.T! I ♡ your videos
We appreciate the kind words!
This is my first time watching a channel and it's great thank you for talking about dark Agnes she's one of those mysterious characters I don't know about but thank you I hope they're developer more at Titan comics keep up the great work
We would LOVE more Dark Agnes!
You know I wish you could make a video about Conan's crossover with Elric.
definitely something to explore in the future! This video is focused on Howard canon only.
*Hot Topicky!* LMAO!
Awwwwwwww, the guest appearance of your pup was worth watching the video! He needs his own back story.. I am sure he is linked to many doggos way back to Atlantis! 😉
Love how you connected all the REH characters in his universe. Also enjoyed how the Serpent Coiled Ring traveled throughout REH's yarns.
Thanks again for another great video!!!
Perhaps a Savage Sword tale of his adventures surviving in the Hyborian age?!
@@conanthebarbarianofficial That would be perfect! Have Zub get right on that! 😆
As much as i hate multi verse crap im loving battle of the black stone and am excited to see whats bext. I was looking into these characters and I see that Solomon Kane and the chick had appeared before in the Savage Avengers
Yes! I am vindicated!
Were there those who doubted you?!
Robert E Howard and his friend HP Lovecraft wrote shared universes long before Marvel and DC got credited for popularizing the concept.
Indeed, we hope to do a Howard and Lovecraft video in the future!
So cool to see the kind of in-depth, insider info that hardcore Howard-heads would have written up in fanzines thirty or forty years ago show up in a well-made You Tube video reaching a wide audience. Good work, Shawn and company.
Thanks, Peter!
Love these connections in his shared world
Very interesting video!
Edgar Rice Burrows also had a shared Universe.
Yes - we mention him in the video! Absolute LEGEND.
This a fucking cool video. My favorite Non-Howard character is Kull of Atlantis the King of Valusia.
But Kull IS a Howard character!
@@conanthebarbarianofficial Damn, I was three-quarters asleep when that was typed. I meant Kull is my favorite Non-Conan character. Thanks for catching that bugger.
Kull is just my favorite. We need more merch.
We will see what we can do 😉
Nice one, mate. Many thanks 👍
Appreciate it!
Hey Sean, just a quick question. Remember when I broached the subject of a Conan/Vampirella cross over, let's just say for arguments sake I wrote the damn thing myself, who would I send to?
Great video Sean. The best one yet. I really learned a lot.
Thank you, so much! I had fun making it. - Shawn
Edgar Rice Burroughs shared universe started with the moon maid 1923 or even earlier with his first book a Princess of Mars, where Edgar Rice Burroughs would use himself in the prologue as a framing device to tell the story.
Another example is the 1914 The Outlaw of Torn, set in 13th century England where there is a Lord Greystoke... (Tarzan's name is John Clayton, Lord Greystoke)
Edgar Rice Burroughs is LEGEND. That said, one can't deny that Howard raised the bar on the concept of a shared universe!
As a Christan I love tha Robert E Howards heroes figth against sorcery.
Kane might be the fashion inspiration for Vampire Hunter D, who in turn inspired the look of Hugh Jackman's Van Helsing...
All the witch hunters are copying Kane's style!
Technically, Lovecraft and Howard's works were in the same world. But honestly, that strengthens the video's claim even more. I mean, A shared world where Conan, Solomon Kane, Kull, and Cthluhu are all in the same universe? Sign me up!
Yes we mention that briefly, we are planning to do a Howard and Lovecraft video in the future!
@@conanthebarbarianofficial and it makes Howard’s claim more legitimate.
And some of clark Ashton smiths works as well. I believe the Hyperborian Cycle
Incredible video as usual!!!
Thanks, Tommy!
I’ve really been enjoying the Black Stone saga. :)
We hope this video gives you some more context for the characters in that series!
Excellent 👌 More of this please
That's the plan 💪
Well done sir
So freaking cool. 😮
First Comment - Cheers! 🍻
Can you do an interview with James Lovegrove? I loved his Sherlock Holmes Cthulhu Casebooks, I read them before I discovered REH and now I can see at least one clear influence in the first book. I'm excited for his Conan novel, I've preordered that and all of the Titan trade paperback Conan comics
Stay tuned 😉
We need a live action shared robert e Lee conan the barbarian universe
Give us more dog!
Cormac Mac Art was one of my favorites. Now I'm looking forward to getting to know Conrad and Kirowan, thanks! 🙂 *Liked and Subscribed!
Howard's shared universe is now technically part of the Marvel expanded universe. Marvel has been publishing comics featuring Solomon Kane, Kull, and Conan for over 50 years. Red Sonja was a Marvel creation, and there was an issue of What If? that teamed Conan with Thor by way of a rip in time created by Odin.✌️
wow! great vid! wow!
Cool
thanks!
Well all the stores of Robert E Howard in the Howerverse are still part of the Cthulhu Mythos so yes they predated all the shared universes from fictional franchises.
You're right! We are planning on doing a video on Howard and HP lovecraft in the future diving into exactly this.
No Red Sonya of Rogatino but I get why.
We may do a sequel exploring other characters in the future.
@@conanthebarbarianofficial it makes sense I re-read the story and she was not a main character also.
Was it just me or did the physical description of the "Last Atlantean" from Moon of Skulls sound like the Thulsa Doom James Earl Jones portrayed in the 80s Conan film.
It's possible!
don't forget death stalcker its highly hinted in death stalcker 2 that they share same universe with conan and conan was a legendary hero in the far past in the world of death stalcker.
This video is focused on Robert E Howard canon only - the Death Stalker movies were paying tribute but it's nothing official.
A segunda guerra mundial e a guerra fria influenciariam profundamente Howard e sua escrita se ele tivesse vivido até a velhice
I never knew in til now , that Solomon Kane and Conan were living in the same universe till now. Since the stories are so different, and in different time periods . But I have always been a fan of Conan going to the Marvel years.But that’s a sweet fact on the Howard Universe dude . And you do on the Conan tv 📺 show from the late nineties. 👍
I love REH.
That was king.
👑
No Red Sonja?
She's an original creation of Roy Thomas & Marvel. Only loosely based on the Howard character Red Sonya of Rogatino
🗡🏹🪓⚔️👍🏿
👑
Good video! ( Grew up, READ EVERYTHING - yet never heard of dark Agnes )
Thanks!
A new adventure for you to explore!
Red Sonja
Where does Kelly the conjur man fit in?
I'd argue that mythology is the first shared universe...
Could Greek mythology be considered a shared universe? Absolutely-but remember, we're talking about a modern shared universe, where fictional stories are created for entertainment, not religious belief. In the 1930s, hardly anyone was worshipping Conan, Tarzan, or Gandalf! Only the COOL ones. 😎
@@conanthebarbarianofficial Fair point. Taking that into account, I'd say the Cuthulu mythos predates Conan as a shared universe as they are both part of the same universe and Lovecraft was first. (Hyborea is the pre-historic version of the more modern Cuthulu mythology, they share a few elder gods. And Lovecraft and Howard were penpals.)
@@AngelusNielson Yes! The Lovecraft circle - they are mentioned. I encourage you to revisit the conclusion of our video. Jules Verne and the often-unmentioned Alexandre Dumas were among the earliest modern authors in the 1800s to connect characters across stories. We also touch on Lovecraft and Clark Ashton Smith, but the central point is that Robert E. Howard set a new standard for shared universes. He crafted an entire history spanning nearly a millennium, with deeper connections between stories and characters than had ever been seen before. One could argue that Tolkien expanded on this idea by developing languages and a more detailed secondary world, but Howard beat him to it!
Hate to quibble, but I don't think the Atlanteans of Moon of Skulls is any way related to Kulls Atlantis. They were brown skinned and totally unlike the proto-Gael Kull and his kin. Also the Picts weren't related to the Gaels/Irish. The Cimmerians were their ancestors,not the Picts. There is some shared universe in REH, but I think you took it a little too far. Still did a fine job.
I hear you, but considering that Kull’s Atlanteans existed tens of thousands of years earlier, and the ones Solomon Kane encounters are an offshoot from much later, it stands to reason they would have appeared quite different by Kane’s time. Keep in mind, Atlantis was uncivilized and consisted of many tribes, potentially with varying appearances and agendas. Also, we’re fully aware that the Cimmerians are ancestors of the Irish. We never stated that the Picts were related to either the Cimmerians or the Irish in the video. If this confusion stems from the music choice, we selected Scottish music because Bran's adventures take place around what is now the Scottish Highlands. Thanks, for the kind words!
@@conanthebarbarianofficialI'm sorry but you did say the Picts were related to the Irish in the El Borak section. Listen again. I appreciate your enthusiasm for REH but I'm right here.
@@brenthatcher5748"Gordon describes himself as being of Highland Scotch and Black Irish ancestry, ethnic groups generally considered to be descendants of the Picts." The Picts interbred and eventually faded from history. The Picts of that time inhabited a vast region, stretching from the Scottish Highlands to the British Isles and parts of Ireland. Hope this clears the confusion!
The Atlantean in the "Moon of Skulls" says that they worshiped "Valka and Hotah", gods that Kull regularly swore by. The "brown" Atlanteans appear in two other stories, "Skull-Face" and the "Gods of Bal-Sagoth." The latter is a Turlogh O'Brien story. Turlogh also appeared in "The Dark Man" which references Bran Mak Morn. So there is no question the "brown" Atlanteans are part of the Howardverse. But you're absolutely right and that they seem very different then the prehistoric Atlanteans of Kull's time. They are more technologically advanced and have established a maritime empire with colonies on the mainland. But given the time of Kull was 80 or 90,000 years before the hyborian age, that's plenty of time for the Atlanteans two have become more advanced before the great cataclysm. And even in Kull's time, the seven kingdoms were in decline and the barbarians were on the rise. I talked about this some in my chapter in Conan Meets the Academy. I suspect that Howard was getting some of the idea of different atlantean races from the theosophist William Scott Elliott. Howard's "brown" Atlanteans have a lot of similarity with Elliott's Toltec atlanteans.
@@AnAgeUndreamedOf I forgot about the reference to Kulls gods. So REH must have meant some connection. I was wrong on this point and I apologize.
Um the lovecraft circle wants to have a word with whom ever made this title
We mention the Lovecraft circle in the video! That said - Howard's work on his own - to connect his characters and build his secondary world is worthy of celebration!
They are all in earth. Only Almuric is an another universe. Bring on earth is not a shared universe.
There are plenty of stories from authors that all take place on earth that are not connected
@@conanthebarbarianofficial true
OK this was a super annoying video to watch with way too many "more on that later" and "stick around to find out". There are better ways to write videos like this that don't require so many of those teasers.