The Neil Knot from Shoulder Pin Guard System (No-Gi)

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  • "The Shoulder Pin" is a trapping system used from the guard to tie up and control your opponent. The 3 essential finger grips causes extreme discomfort to your opponent and the framing pressure creates angles and opportunities to set up submission finishes.
    In this video learn how "The Shoulder Pin" is used to set up "The Neil Knot" submission. This choking submission threads under the chin of your opponent, when locked up leaves them open with no choice but to tap out.
    Test out this unique no-gi finish derived from the brilliant mind of The Ground Marshal, Neil Melanson!
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  • @davecronce3127
    @davecronce3127 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You can hit this from bottom half when you are swimming for the under hook. Your opponent will pummel and then you can lock this in. Love it.

  • @mohamedbensalem9185
    @mohamedbensalem9185 6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Neil Melanson techniques got me out of too many troubles during rolls, unexpected details and submissions.

  • @tenshunn
    @tenshunn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    I just want somebody who looks at me, like that dude looks at Neil.
    that's true love

    • @splashman2235
      @splashman2235 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      U simp lol

    • @wulfrache
      @wulfrache 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@splashman2235 The way he delicatly removed the hair from his wrist...
      "This is true love-you think this happens every day?" -Wesley

  • @reyg7028
    @reyg7028 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Hey Neil . I just wanted to take a moment to say thank you . I cannot begin to tell you how valuable all the information that you have been relating has been to me . I have been very fortunate to find your videos on TH-cam and have been studying them and sharing the information with my students . It helps that you and I are built the same so everything that you do works perfectly into my game .

    • @whateveritwasitis
      @whateveritwasitis 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ive left replies and questions on many videos, nobody monitors this stuff

  • @dalion82
    @dalion82 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Learned this shoulder pin a few years ago and it made my guard dramatically more dangerous. Started with a sit up sweep and now i got yet another option... appreciate it...

  • @andrewkim6037
    @andrewkim6037 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That half-guard entry is slick.

  • @RTSurf5000
    @RTSurf5000 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for such clear instructions and finer details. You make this look effortless. I can't wait to practice this!!!!

  • @iMPACTt43w0r1d
    @iMPACTt43w0r1d 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wish I could like this video more than once. Great instructional. Thank you so much!

  • @willisratcliff2285
    @willisratcliff2285 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's a sneaky and fantastic move.

  • @GiacintoMarcellino
    @GiacintoMarcellino 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good stuff!I'm going to try this. Thank you Neil!

  • @Boriskbjj
    @Boriskbjj ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so good! And nice to see it getting a bit of attention with the recent comp highlight

  • @Cornbreadddd
    @Cornbreadddd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an unusual strategy, I've never seen anyone do this. I'm going to try this today.

  • @edwarddykstra1
    @edwarddykstra1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome positional pin/submission!

  • @pierreturtle9574
    @pierreturtle9574 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the details the Neil Knot is great thanks for sharing always the realistic way this is hi level knowledge for sure🤙🏼

  • @Wagmacker191
    @Wagmacker191 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the best channel of all youtube. Hi from Brazil.

  • @DoM-dd6rb
    @DoM-dd6rb 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You Sir, are an awesome Instructor.
    Thanks for sharing this

  • @f_alves
    @f_alves 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Neil is f****ing awesome teacher!!! He make those techniques looks too easy....Danmmmmm!!!!!!!!

  • @DIOGOCOHEA
    @DIOGOCOHEA ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your work Neil.

  • @juntjoonunya9216
    @juntjoonunya9216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great tips! Will be trying this out..

  • @eskrima1
    @eskrima1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent. Thank you for sharing.

  • @kdb560
    @kdb560 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Slick and very practical since breaking down a stronger opponent can be difficult. Can you elaborate on the half guard application please?

  • @sdzachar
    @sdzachar 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely great got to love this

  • @nathanvazquez99
    @nathanvazquez99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quick tip that helped me, getting the ovehook then posting with the other hand on the collar bone or shoulder really helps with creating the space you need for your hips and legs. Especially if you get a reverse kimura grip like Neil does here

  • @askBOSCO
    @askBOSCO 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ABSOLUTE KILLER MOVE. THANKS

  • @efficiencyjiujitsu417bjj2
    @efficiencyjiujitsu417bjj2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome stuff!

  • @moefinesse9878
    @moefinesse9878 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's sick! Thanks for this

  • @fitepitsnbonfires
    @fitepitsnbonfires ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very interesting stuff neil keep it up !

  • @Leitefsj
    @Leitefsj 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is great!

  • @veritas30001ify
    @veritas30001ify 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome video

  • @needham_b
    @needham_b 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    awesome technique

  • @andrewmcgivney7606
    @andrewmcgivney7606 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    this is fantastic

  • @michaelcorcoran3942
    @michaelcorcoran3942 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It works soooooooo gooooood!!!

  • @gregory57481
    @gregory57481 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very nice!

  • @GoldSmith-um2mc
    @GoldSmith-um2mc 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank You for translation!

  • @andresplattini2974
    @andresplattini2974 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent move

  • @peteramarillo8952
    @peteramarillo8952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    bad ass guard. Im gonna start practicing it

  • @stallion5868
    @stallion5868 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it

  • @MastersmokeABUSE
    @MastersmokeABUSE 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    IN 10th Planet this position was called "London." However, the opponent can stack & pass if enough pressure is applied to the bottom person's thigh. You might as well transition to chilldog to stop the cartwheel escape to side control

    • @karimsayed6292
      @karimsayed6292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't know what you talking about but This is pure catch wrestling

    • @karimsayed6292
      @karimsayed6292 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was a second level shooter under billy robinson before he pass away and i 100% confirm that 90 % of bjj 10th pjj is pure Catch wrestling.

    • @karimsayed6292
      @karimsayed6292 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Simply we're the origin and the others are freaks

    • @MrVsteel
      @MrVsteel 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I Lack the landmarks to which you refer, and yet still relate to what you are saying

  • @bjjbrawler1
    @bjjbrawler1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great video!
    Looks like a Williams guard type thing. Same angles. With a rubber guard lockdown..
    Good stuff!!!

    • @IAintUrBuddyMan
      @IAintUrBuddyMan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A very nasty submisson from Williams guard for sure

  • @briankleaver6296
    @briankleaver6296 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Does anyone know where Neil is coaching these days? Would love to see him coach in person.

  • @slavicvolk
    @slavicvolk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    2:41 start
    6:12 going other side
    7:28 from z guard w Robson hook

  • @josephmargaryan
    @josephmargaryan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:22 I go TWO!!

  • @dr1052
    @dr1052 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice stuff here's a sub and like 😀👍

  • @tamegomait
    @tamegomait 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy is awesome

  • @kallepikku4991
    @kallepikku4991 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Most effective guard system.
    Less energy, most gains.

  • @abelcardenas2091
    @abelcardenas2091 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your a so knowledgeable, thank you. do you have a gym where is it located

  • @vitamax3777
    @vitamax3777 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    crazy stuff i give something a go

  • @thos1618
    @thos1618 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Any chance of putting Mastering the Triangle Choke back into print? Copies are listed for over $300 on Amazon.
    Maybe it's time to re-release it as an e-book.

    • @oldrichstibor2845
      @oldrichstibor2845 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      yessssss! PLEASE!

    • @agharta42
      @agharta42 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      lol thats funny i got a pristine copy just chillin right here its so fuckin dope i barely read it tho no ill never sell it to you hahaha such a sick book tho lmao

    • @oldrichstibor2845
      @oldrichstibor2845 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      agharta42 you dont have to be a tool your whole life bro. theres time to grow still.

    • @agharta42
      @agharta42 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i.imgur.com/earXs48.jpg may be a tool but im a tool with a sweet book lmao

    • @oldrichstibor2845
      @oldrichstibor2845 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      agharta42 lol exactly. it doesnt change the fact.

  • @but457
    @but457 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guy is scary good.

  • @MightyYoungSir
    @MightyYoungSir 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this dude on the right got other things in mind lol

  • @kjuarez29
    @kjuarez29 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Me likey. Thanks Neil!

  • @JohnDoe-gd1zj
    @JohnDoe-gd1zj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks like you can transition to the omaplata there as well. Nice technique. Thank you

  • @305tactical
    @305tactical 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great submission

    • @mongolchiuud8931
      @mongolchiuud8931 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Notice the black man picking lent of the white mans hand then staring at his crouch right after.....wtf

  • @coffeedollsvp
    @coffeedollsvp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This guys is good.

  • @rationalthinker9612
    @rationalthinker9612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a question, at the 3:40 part of the video where you are sitting on his legs and your right arm is basing and your left hand is grabbing his left wrist, what is stopping him from just yanking his left arm out of your grip? Is that typically a strong position for a grip or is the whole sequence of moves so fast that he doesn't have time to respond? Or is there a follow counter move if he break his wrist out of that grip? It seems like when he forces you back to the mat that you let go of that grip as part of the next move, what would you suggest if he doesn't force you back to the mat and breaks the grip without going to the mat..
    Sorry for the thousand questions, I was just curious just in case it happens to me....thanks for the awesome videos...OSS!!

  • @BooLee01
    @BooLee01 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you please explain the squeeze? I got in that position in my class and had a good triangle shape around my partner's neck, but I could not squeeze tight enough to make a choke. I tried pushing and pulling in every direction, but I just could not make it work.

  • @kazuya2200
    @kazuya2200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    William's guard ?

    • @az8039
      @az8039 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes but no. Williams guard is the shoulder pin but the Neil know is the finish or choke in this video

  • @strictlybangers
    @strictlybangers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    surprising to not have seen this finish in the ufc?

  • @Noname-ul4xp
    @Noname-ul4xp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve been trying to work this but that bottom leg just gets pinned an they pass an then the shoulder pin doesn’t feel strong. Could you go over that in a video?

  • @terickson26
    @terickson26 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is awesome. If Ricky Lindell and you say it's a good grip it must be. Ricky is a beast.
    I use your K control guard all the time and it works really well. I've had a few people posture up really tall and push the foot that's on their hip down off their hip (the foot of the knee shield leg) if that makes sense. I was curious if you had a solution to that?

    • @thos1618
      @thos1618 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've tried K Control a few times. I liked the idea of the position but couldn't make it work.
      Do you push with the shin and try to pull-out the leg, or more hang-back and work the head-control?

  • @petermelb123
    @petermelb123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video but I tried the technique and I didn't have the strength to put the shoulder crank hold on heavier rolling opponents they just stack me 🤔anybody else feeling me?

  • @guam58
    @guam58 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am getting good at getting the Neil knot, but can only finish with triangles. I just can't seem to finish the initial choke. My arm is not long enough to grab my forearm of the arm grabbing the leg. Are their details that can help me close up the initial choke? This position is awesome as a pitstop and great way to set up triangle easily. Thanks for the awesome teachings.

    • @MalikMosley
      @MalikMosley ปีที่แล้ว

      3 years too late? 😂 increase flexibility and create a deeper angle if possible.

  • @damirnikic2560
    @damirnikic2560 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi,
    Extra 💪👍👍👍

  • @ThatFailedartist
    @ThatFailedartist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow

  • @FatesHandler
    @FatesHandler 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh I am so trying this next time we free train in class.

  • @user-ed8eu2vm8p
    @user-ed8eu2vm8p 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍

  • @danwhite192
    @danwhite192 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🔥 I have found

  • @trampley
    @trampley 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I wonder how at all this is different than Shawn Williams guard.

    • @ovonisamja8024
      @ovonisamja8024 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's the finish. Same guard can be found under "Lister Grip". Guard is the same but I think he's referring to the finish as a knot. That's why he's calling the guard shoulder pin guard and not Neil guard I think.

    • @thos1618
      @thos1618 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Shoulder Pin Guard, Leg-Hook Guard, 'Russian' Guard, London Guard, Lister Grip Guard, Shawn Williams Guard; all the same position.

    • @counterhit121
      @counterhit121 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure who came up with it, but I learned Neil's version first so the Shawn Williams guard to me is just Neil's 0 degree shoulder pin.

  • @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA
    @Nenad-ICXC-Shuput-GFAMMA 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is fucking gold :)

  • @Ricocase
    @Ricocase 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    whoa, 6:54, what kind of triangle was that?

  • @jeegunugger1871
    @jeegunugger1871 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5:25

  • @ThatFailedartist
    @ThatFailedartist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm back, wow again

  • @sunshine0satellite
    @sunshine0satellite ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Williams Guard

  • @kallepikku4991
    @kallepikku4991 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Neil, be careful mate, people stealing techniques from your videos and naming them after themselves. Hahaha.

  • @NarcJ
    @NarcJ 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    wow! added.

  • @thiago57602
    @thiago57602 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oss

  • @thos1618
    @thos1618 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this video new, or was it like Sherdog Tech of the Week or something?

    • @brentluder795
      @brentluder795 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      ollhashedfetish. it was his newest video just recently on his shoulder pin setups yes..

  • @YinYangAK47
    @YinYangAK47 7 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    0:24 dafuq

    • @chaos_omega
      @chaos_omega 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      lulz

    • @saroeungsrey6315
      @saroeungsrey6315 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      looks like hes checking out his slave master....

    • @mongolchiuud8931
      @mongolchiuud8931 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have only seen girls pick lent off a boy as a way of flirting....that was weird af...right after that he was literally staring at the dudes crouch...

    • @bobbyatkinson7930
      @bobbyatkinson7930 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i think his OCD was kicking up

    • @juntjoonunya9216
      @juntjoonunya9216 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's just some love. Happens now and again in jiu-jitsu

  • @janicelivingston9644
    @janicelivingston9644 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Geez, this lock is awesome , getting to it is controversial though ...because your opponent can move to and more than likely will , while you are setting it up, but once again wow! brilliant lock, whew ! Your partner looks at you a little too much lol even picks lint off ...

  • @triedtrue2951
    @triedtrue2951 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That's called the Williams guard

  • @wulfrache
    @wulfrache 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:25 Bruh...

  • @lordapophis5723
    @lordapophis5723 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This looks like it could been a great move to do in a street fight, problem is what the guy on top gonna be doing with his free hand?

    • @Presence_o_Mind
      @Presence_o_Mind 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you crank down on his shoulder, he'll have no leverage to reach over and tag you. He'll just be using it for base to hold his face from eating the asphalt.

    • @juntjoonunya9216
      @juntjoonunya9216 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Picking your butt

  • @LightlessDimension
    @LightlessDimension 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    My coach showed me the omaplata while doing this

  • @armandberkut6021
    @armandberkut6021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is called "Williams Guard " Dude ! Shoulder Pin Guard ? The shoulder is trapped but Not Pinned ,the word pinning is used when you pin the shoulder or Shoulders to the ground .PS : there is no GUARD in Catch wrestling .

  • @andrewr4908
    @andrewr4908 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    this dude is missing a toe?