Except, you don’t know better. Just because some chick in a wig doing some pbs ted talk for rich white academia university types so she can get her speaking engagements booked the current school year doesn’t mean anything more than that. Country and bluegrass are both primarily sourced from the celts of the British isles . Period. Musicologist here. Teacher at the college level since 1987. The banjo is one instrument not THE sound . It’s A sound. The blue notes were added to an existing musical form. They did not invent that musical form .
@@saucyjk6453 I have no idea why you feel the need to engage intellectually by spewing this level of vitriol (nothing an actual musicologist would do, btw -- whether they teach at a college level or not) instead of having what could have been an interesting discourse that allows all of us to learn from each other. I have no idea who hurt you. All I know for sure from your comment is that you are awash in a world of pain. Your condescension -- amongst other things, apparently -- reveals you. I sincerely hope you get the professional help that you so desperately need. God bless you.
@@QueenEsther You can’t imagine someone getting fired up when you don a wig and try to falsely claim their culture as your own invention? Truth matters in the internet age, and calling out garbage like this is vital.
This is constructed history. It's trying to ignore the Celtic and English folk tradition that is at the CORE of country music. You're pushing false narratives while we know what actually took place.
I had this argument with my French teacher on how black ppl were the original influencers of country music and she basically called me a hypocrite and said I was appropriating her culture🤷🏾♀️
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Anonymous Dolphin of course she will say that, I was raised in France , all they do us steal from their African colonies.
It goes back to what Albert Murray (primarily a jazz and blues critic) wrote in his classic book Omni-Americans. We've always been polyglot, and a big part of white supremacy is the myth that we have always been separate with white being the prime mover. If you think your white life doesn't contain significant black elements, look harder.
What you state is absolutely true. The problem here is that she is asserting that black people invented country music unilaterally...exactly the same thing you warn of, but she does it without being questioned. Yes, the banjo was invented by black people and played by black people first, but the banjo is not the birth of country music.
This is because you don’t know history. Country music would not exist without Africans/African Americans. We are the originators. There is very little European influence. You keep telling people “they are wrong” but you can’t back anything up 😂. Look up Arnold Schultz and his impact on Bill Monroe and his crew, from fiddling and guitar playing, many others. Look up the impact of the Banjo and African playing styles, singing, vocal patterns and how they came to be in White Appalachia. Early bluegrass folk singers like Roscoe Holcomb (old timey music)whose playing style and singing had heavy African influence. Look up Africans and their impact on the Appalachian region after their arrival in 18th century. Look up how Whites didn’t get their hands on the Banjo until nearly 140 years in the 19th century after Africans had already been in the Appalachian region since the 18th century. An instrument that we’ve been playing since we arrived in America. Look up how minstrelsy, radio, blacks touring, black churches, and black street playing impacted White Appalachia. Look up Akonting, the closest ancestor to the Banjo, but one of many related. You will find the claw hammer in Akonting that exists in bluegrass. You will quickly find that Africans were and are the progenitors of bluegrass and country, which Whites took from. There is very little European influence in bluegrass or country.
Wrong, it’s primarily from the British isles. Black Americans use of the blue notes and the banjo were add one to an already existing musical form so you don’t know what u are talking about . If I put Cajun spice in the chicken I can’t pretend the Cajun spice us the main ingredient
So would your position be that the blue note and blues scale are not pretty key ingredients to what became known as country music? If "no" is your answer, I'd urge you to listen again, because you aren't hearing what I'm hearing. And assuming your response was to me, my point was not that country was a black invention. It was that, per Murray, country is polyglot - a mix of many influences, black musics being some of them.
The banjoist is Ayodele Maakheru. He's performed in several Broadway shows including Shuffle Along, Lackawanna Blues and most recently, Sheridan Square.
Please stop the buffoonery - the African instrument that eventually became the banjo was ALREADY in North America since the FORCED ARRIVAL of Africans at Jamestown, Virginia...and that date starts at 1619 in North America. 1619 is noted as the start point for African ENSLAVEMENT on the North American continent…of which a large land area later became the United States. North America was settled by the ENGLISH - peoples of Celtic heritage arrived much later to the continent. The Celts get credit for ADDING to the sound after the fact, but NOT before...as it was Africans who first created the original instrument and its sounds. You can't claim original credit for a group that arrived AFTER the fact...but you get co-credit for adding to the banjo's influence and sounds, and that's something you can take with you.
@@Sean-jc6cu Please stop the buffoonery - the African instrument that eventually became the banjo was ALREADY in North America since the FORCED ARRIVAL of Africans at Jamestown, Virginia...and that date starts at 1619 in North America. 1619 is noted as the start point for African ENSLAVEMENT on the North American continent…of which a large land area later became the United States. North America was settled by the ENGLISH - peoples of Celtic, Irish, and Scottish heritage arrived much later to the continent. The Celts and everyone else get credit for ADDING to the sound after the fact, but NOT before...as it was Africans who first created the original instrument and its sounds. You can't claim original credit for a group that arrived AFTER the fact...but you get co-credit for adding to the banjo's influence and sounds, and that's something you can take with you.
@@Sean-jc6cu You're the idiot - the ENTIRE video is African influence on the banjo. If you want to discuss "Celtic influences," you're on the wrong YT video. Perhaps there is confusion on your part, but my comment stands firm.
Smh the deflection is strong with this one. This is not a show, it is an educational presentation with historical context and the purpose to educate.Your obtuse willfulness is showing, you may want to go handle that before you become embarrassed 😳 😔 Fun fact: a person's nationality does not dictact their ethnicity. Also Persia is most know for creating the first postal system with communications to African and Asian countries which mean culture regarding music could easily be recieved. Smh how about you go and do a big bit of research. Edit: Rolling Stone - Country music r*cist history The Boot - Black country music history Ken Burns - Country Music
@@onigiri2136 I love how you started off with Star Wars and backed everything up with facts. All of the popular forms of music created in the United States comes from black people. Spirituals, folk, blues, country, jazz , rock n roll, r&b , soul, techno , house , hip hop, and some would say jimi Hendrix invented metal. The sista even states that the banjo comes from Africa, depictions of lutes can also be seen in ancient Africa art.
When some see a title like the “Black origins of country music” or the “black influence on country music “they think that this is somehow saying that it was invented by them. It’s two main add-ons to an already existing musical form …..which came out of Ireland England and Scotland ….are the use of Bluenotes , and the banjo . The banjo is one instrument , and many other instruments are used in both bluegrass and country music OK so basically the banjo …..the idea of even fretting notes which the banjo borrowed from the guitar is different than the actual instrument that was brought over from Africa which is a basic string instrument that could be made very basic and quickly with a gourd but it was not a fretted instrument it was just a very cheap and inexpensive instrument that they basically added the banjo to all the others which all came from Europe the mandolin the upright bass violin the guitar so those two additions while they definitely added to the form we know as country and bluegrass are more like flavorings they are not the main ingredients the song structure the idea of a song itself is European the chord sequence idea even using chords is European , the language was from Europe , the whole idea of a ballad ….the storytelling arc and narrative of a ballad …are all from European tradition …..it would be a good idea before you go shooting your mouth off like you know what you’re talking about to do your homework learn a little bit and stop trying to put other people down just so you can feel better about yourself
That last sentence is a textbook example of projection -- a psychological phenomenon where feelings directed towards the self are directed towards others. I have to ask: Did your attempt to put me down make you feel better about yourself? The fact that you're convinced that condescension is in play at all in this talk is revealing, laughable and very disturbing. All of which begs the question -- Who hurt you?
Black people created ALL American music genres. Which musical art form did we NOT create?? The one that makes suspected white supremacists the most mad is Rock and Roll. If music is American culture...then BLACK PEOPLE ARE THE CULTURE.
@@QueenEsther in other words, every point I made is irrefutable so you play vending machine psychologist to try and score a point. Your entire presentation is exactly what you are trying to stick on me, projection. You are the one projecting and who has a severe inferiority complex.
@@QueenEsther when you completely ignore the massive input of European Americans on American music and you are trying , but failing, to condescend. Cheat is a better word however, not your interpretation of what I said.
Although the popular notion currently is that one group of people literally created all the music, food, etc. in America while all other seemingly brought nothing from their own shores, most know this is ridiculous. All people brought their ways with them and they show up all over this amazing country. Music, food...all mixed up and fused together. Maybe that isn't enough. Maybe this prevents people from feeling special. I don't want to live in England, Africa, or anywhere else. I am an American. For me, that is enough.
@@rickywagner6990 ...as if making a minstrel song is a point of honor....but OK. Not only that, the narrator noted that by the mid-1840s the banjo was a part of minstrel shows. Blackface performers STOLE the idea of the banjo from Africans as the instrument was ALREADY in North America since the FORCED ARRIVAL of Africans at Jamestown, Virginia...and that date starts at 1619 in North America. 1619 is noted as the start point for African ENSLAVEMENT on the North American continent…of which a large land area later became the United States. North America was settled by the ENGLISH and they did NOT bring any instrument that had the sounds of anything that resembled the AFRICAN instrument. Everyone else gets credit for ADDING to the sound after the fact, but NOT before...as it was Africans who first created the original instrument and its sounds. You can't claim original credit for a concept AFTER the fact...but you get co-credit for adding to the banjo's influence and sounds, and that's something you can take with you.
I don't deny the truth of some of what she is saying but I don't get how white southerners took on black culture and black food. How exactly did they do this? Please someone explain this because I don't see this. I think country music is derived from various influences. So if the banjo is African, did the Spanish guitar, which was influenced by the Moors, not help shape country music. I think it's wrong to preach total creation comes from Africans because that's not entirely true. A contribution yes!!!
This will clear up your confusion. Enslaved people were from various African countries. They brought their knowledge of instruments. The Moors are African. That is what Moor means, “The Black”. As for the food., look at traditional European foods. Then look at Traditional African foods. Now when you think about Southern white food which is it closest too? European or African? Enslaved Blacks cooked and created most southern cuisine. Black peoples throughout the world have shared so many wonderful cultural, artistic, technological talents alongside the talents of Asians, and Europeans. To acknowledge black contributions should not diminish the talents and contributions of others.
I don't know if you knew this, but the Moors were African. Sooooo...if Spanish guitar DID help shape country music, then it's an African influenced source as well. But as for your original question about food, there are American food staples and spices that we use all the time that are African/Asian in origin. i dont know them all, but rice, millet, yams, coffee, sorghum, some strains of kale and cabbage. 2021 Americans may not know or care about these foods, and some of them arent exclusive to Africa. there are similar counterparts in Europe. But historically, during the foundation of this country, these foods were a really big deal! This wasn't just stuff that Africans ate, all people here at this stuff. Additionally, there are significant cooking styles and methods from Africa that either did not exist in Europe or were very similar. Either way, things kind of fused together and folks either downplayed, denied or didn't know of the African contribution. But that's not an American phenomenon, that happens all over the world. That's life. We still owe it to ourselves to know the truth. Think about Chinese food and how it's crept into American culture and identity. There are so many ways that they traditionally cook food that (although not exclusive to China) were pretty new or not mainstream in the US but now they are. In fact, we eat totally NON Chinese foods from America that are totally spin offs of how Chinese dishes are commonly made. But we don't think about that, it tastes good, we eat it and are none the wiser. That's especially true if some of these cultural traits are similar to something we already do on our own.
@@whisper2284 Thanks for your reply but Queen Esther is talking about the banjo here. Slaves weren't playing guitars. The guitars are Spanish. Later taken into Mexico then up north into what would later become the US southwest. Country music is mostly centered around guitars. As a matter of fact her talk should be retitled as The Origins of Blue Grass Music because that is where the banjo is played. Johnny Cash, Garth Brooks, George Strait, Alan Jackson all carried with them guitars on stage not banjos. My argument is that the guitar comes from white American interaction with the Spanish/Mexicans of the southwest namely Texas where they got the influence of the guitar. The guitar is the instrument that country music is shaped around. That bit of history should also be acknowledged. She's trying to claim that the true origins of country music is from slaves while denying others their influence that also has been overlooked. If all country music artists played banjos then Queen Esther's talk would have more relevancy but that is not the case. You said it yourself: "To acknowledge black contributions should not diminish the talents and contributions of others." but that is what she is doing. I get the food part now but the culture I don't see that still.
@@chrisdufor-pulliam4901 I get the food part now but I don't get the culture part. As for the Spanish guitar, true influenced by the moors but as in most cases when other people take on a creation by others it gets improved upon. Today's modern guitar is not the same as what was being played by the moors. Like the man playing the banjo in the video, that's a modern variation of what slaves were playing in the south. (I think it would have been more impressive if he was playing an actual banjo similar to the one slaves would have played.) The banjo got improved upon. So the guitar was introduced to Americans by the Spanish/Mexicans not the Moors. To say guitars are only Moorish is denying the contributions of the Spanish to the instrument. Queen Esther is talking about the banjo here. Slaves weren't playing guitars. The guitars are Spanish. Later taken into Mexico then up north into what would later become the US southwest. Country music is mostly centered around guitars. As a matter of fact her talk should be retitled as The Origins of Blue Grass Music because that is the musical genre where the banjo is played. Johnny Cash, Garth Brooks, George Strait, Alan Jackson all carried with them guitars on stage surrounded by others playing guitars not banjos. My argument is that the guitar comes from white American interaction with the Spanish/Mexicans of the southwest namely Texas where they got the influence of the guitar. The guitar is the instrument that country music is shaped around. That bit of history should also be acknowledged. She's trying to claim that the true origins of country music is from slaves while denying others their influence that also has been overlooked. If all country music artists played banjos then Queen Esther's talk would have more relevancy but that is not the case. Again a great influence came from black slaves but to claim total creation is not true.
@@newvibes789 I am an American and it is curious to see how resistant this country is to learning its true cultural heritage. African American cultural influences abound but they are rarely acknowledged. For some reason non-Black people have a very difficult time accepting this fact. Look at how quickly you indicated Spain created the guitar without acknowledging the Black moors’ (African people) influence on the Spaniard. Also, there was absolutely ZERO mention of a guitar in my post. What our young, baby America fails to recognize is the African American hails from Africa via the transatlantic economic exploitation of labor by White Europeans and White Americans. The enslaved African brought with them a civilization that is the oldest on earth. Africans existed over 150,000 years before the European existed. They brought a plethora of skills from the motherland that melded with American soil and needs. You can not take a people as old as the African and not learn from them. It is a beautiful thing. The young learning from the old.
Great legends of Country Music are passing from Johnny Cash to George Jones to Kenny Rogers and Glen Campbell and here we are in the Cordillera Region of the Philippines was and is been waiting for the Country Music Industry's recognition of us the fans and Cordilleran Country Artist!! My father died in 2015 hoping for a Country Music Artist's tour here in the Philippines in his lifetime. Why does the mainstreem Country Music Industry neglect us the Country Music loving people here in the Philippines for like forever?
STFU with your whiny bullsh*t! HOW DARE YOU! How dare you come on a video discussing and highlighting the impactful influence of the Black true founders of country music who have been atrociously mistreated, erased, and stolen from to uplift your white so called "Great legends of Country Music"! Are you dumb??! Seriously, delete this stupid af comment then go watch Yellow Rose and STFU! Without Black people there would be no country music, but instead of honoring their plight and acknowledging their influence, talent, and impact, you idiotically deflect from the real message of the TedTalk to highlight your dead father's ignored pipe dream???!! Internationally acclaimed and recognized American artist do not frequently perform in Asian countries yet you're butt hurt that discriminatory white theiving country artists have not performed in the Phillipines??! Smh, ridiculous 🤬😡😤 but unfortunately not suprised 🙄😒
@@whitepouch0904 We are very relevant like any other countries in the world because 98% of great singers are from the Philippines. Music does not only revolve in America but universal. It is the main reason why other countries' music and other relevant issues are not recognized because of the me attitude in America.
God has blessed our people with so many gifts and a strength from beyond our black women is the foundation Those on the mayflower all would have died if they had to endure the conditions we came over as slaves. That’s why I know I come from a strong people and those who hate me are weak. Thats why you teach your kids the real history because the other side is scared to know how evil and wicked their grandparents were they have to live with that.
So white people should live in perpetual guilt because some white forefathers did your forefathers harm? Additionally, are black people forever condemned to live a life of oppression and victimhood? What about white abolitionists that eventually ended the slavery? What about the fact that about 5% of American families in the 1860s had slaves? Slavery has been a world-wide thing for thousands of years. And most of it was not a racial thing. Africans enslaved other Africans. Today there is more African slavery on that continent than ever. Do you know that the word slave came from the word Slav? Yes, white Europeans were slaves to Arab chiefs. Your whole narrative is filled with holes.
@@declanstewart5690They did. You should probably do some research. They brought the banjo. They taught Maybelle Carter of the Carter family to play the slide guitar. Rufus Payne was the mentor of Hank Williams. Bill Monroe's tutor was a black man and he taught Monroe Bluegrass music. Ray Charles had one of the highest selling County albums of all time. So yes they did invent it,
@@visionquest7870 none of the individuals you mentioned invented it. The banjo isn't even that important to country music, especially today. The guitar and fiddle is way more important and those come from Europe. But if you want to say it's black because of one instrument, the case could be made that jazz is a white genre because all the instruments used come from Europe.
@@declanstewart5690 LOL. The guitar doesn't come from Europe. The guitar earliest origins are in Egypt or possibly Mesopotamia. The banjo was instrumental in early country music development and now it is featured in bluegrass.
@@visionquest7870 what we know as a guitar today comes from Spain. Even the modern banjo, not the African one made of like sticks and mud, comes from a white american. The fiddle, which comes from Celtic migrants, is way more important to country music than the banjo. Do you even listen to it?
So much victim hood. She keeps referring herself as”us” when talking about slavery. She was never a slave nor was even her great grandpa parents. This is like me making a presentation about my grandparents being farmer and me taking credit by saying “us.” Stop taking credit for things didn’t happen to you. Just tell the history with out hurt hurt and collective victimhood of things mente happen to you.
There has been many and continued research efforts across numerous fields that delve into the genetic impact of trauma especially via ADOS. Take a minute to gain some knowledge and do some research and stop being a victim, deflector, and blame shifter. There are many scientific articles, but I thought these would be easier for you to understand. Have fun. 😉 Teen Vogue - Trauma from slavery can be passed down through genes Rolling Stone - Country music r*cist history The Boot - Black country music history Ken Burns - Country Music
The birth of America was through victimhood and remains celebrated to this day with reenactments of the revolutionary war. People alive today haven't paid taxes to the crown but they still talk about it for educational purposes.
First of all, there is absolutely not one shred of victimhood in any of what I've said in my TED Talk. I simply tell what took place -- not some shiny sanitized convoluted feel-good version of American history. Secondly, I am an ADOS -- an American descendant of slavery, two generations removed and raised by my maternal great-grandparents and grandparents. I have every right to say we and us when referring to my ancestors, for obvious reasons. Last but not least: IMHO as a nation, we still experience constant aftershocks of The Civil War, in part because it has never ended, the trauma of the enslaved has been passed down through generations and the American public has been woefully miseducated about basic American history. Apparently, your cognitive bias is a testimony to this, and how easily anyone can be misled if they don't know how to think critically -- especially when they think they know. For more -- "It didn't start with Trump: how America came to undervalue teachers" www.theguardian.com/education/2018/oct/05/reagan-nation-at-risk-education-policy-trump-bush "How the Reagan Administration Used "A Nation at Risk" to Push for School Privatization" historynewsnetwork.org/article/185518 Oh, and this one is just for you -- The Dunning-Kruger Effect Explained www.healthline.com/health/dunning-kruger-effect
Nope guess again...cite your sources a few of mine are below: Rolling Stone - Country music r*cist history The Boot - Black country music history Ken Burns - Country Music
@@onigiri2136 You rely on "sources" like Rolling Stone. Ken Burns pathetic "history of country music" and "The Boot Black country music history" for your information? Whatever floats your boat I suppose, those 'histories are pretty inaccurate and incomplete But I would suggest you try doing some research yourself and actually listening to some early country music - the stuff recorded in the 1920's and '30's. No doubt Blacks made many contributions to popular music and some old verses from blues and spirituals made their way into country music songs because nobody tried to make music into a racial thing until recently; music used to be like, universal. Mainly Blacks always seemed to prefer blues, jazz, 'rhythm and blues' and later rock 'n' roll to country music Country music is one genre of music with several sub-genres that originally came from folk songs, mostly from the British isles and Europe and popular composed songs of the 19th and early 20th century.. Interestingly, there have been very few Black country music performers over the decades. the only "stars" I know of were DeFord Bailey (an original member of the Grand Old Opry and a member of the Country Music Hall of Fame) and Charlie Pride.
@@William1939 No…just no 😂. That isn’t to say it doesn’t have some Euro influence but it’s minimal. It cannot exist without African Americans because that’s the foundation.
North American colonisers came from Europe. They were heavily influenced by Roman Catholicism, the protestant movement, hymns, and folk music of their cultural traditions as well as classical music composers - baroque, gregorian chant, choral choirs. Inventiveness wasn't so much an issue as was assimilation and the merging of various influences. Also, if you really stop and listen to the musical intonation of country music and the banjo, it doesn't seem to have European intonations.
@@deanjones2525 Then you aren't listening enough. Listen to Appalachian music. Listen to Clarence Ashley's recording of "Coo Coo Bird", which is a direct adaptation of the English folk song "The Cuckoo". Celtic and English folk music is the ROOT of Country music. Settlers brought the fiddle and all its tradition, the dulcimer, mandolin, harmonica, string bass... I could go on.
Remember irish ppl were mixed ppl they only considered white in the 1940s black history is a must for white ppl this is why we so divided and its on purpose
@@mikebobson2768 yea theyare white now and yea they always have been treated bad bc of the mixed heritage look at some old Italian ppl 1800's and later and tell me what you see
Anybody who know anything knows this is bs. 1. The banjo was based off the African instrument but was not the same. The African instrument was a stick and a gord with 2 strings. 2. The rest of the instruments and playing styles were European folk music. 3. Country music is based off of American folk music bluegrass and European folk which is all white music. 4. If blacks having created the banjo means they created county music, then whites created jazz considering every single instrument in jazz was made by whites. ( the first jazz player was white Nick larocca and the first jazz band was all whites odjb.)
Country music orginated with the white fiddlers , fidlin by John Carson is considered thr first country song with vocals , there were Africans that came later with the banjjo and their influences but whites started the genre
@@trapontap4609 wow....... a inferiority complex see what has happened you guys have been lie to also not just blk ppl john carson was born right after slavery ENDED but the enslave africans brought the banjjo during slavery the african had this style of music way before john carson was born they classified blk music as race music this in included Rock jazz and all the other music that black people were making at that time as white ppl startes putting different instruments infused with the african type of music then they started categorizing the music as far as country rock and other thing but if you look at some music by blk ppl it sounds just like country and it pre dates john carson learn african and native blk american history it will blow your mine and see how every race of ppl was lied too.
@@truehistory261 my people from Appalachia (Tennessee, northern Georgia and Alabama, and kentucky) have been listening to the same music for the past 250 years.
Do some research instead of speaking nonsense...js Rolling Stone - Country music r*cist history The Boot - Black country music history Ken Burns - Country Music
The banjo is based on Persian and Asian instruments. No one speaks about the influence white music had on blues, like blues just appeared out of nothing. Pathetic
@MSILBB You are only correct about the banjo not being Asian. The rest of your statement is based on your feelings. Get that chip off of your shoulder.
@@OriginalKingRichTv yup! Death was the first punk rock band. They started out as a funk band then started using music to release trauma and tension and created punk rock. All punk rock bands acknowledge them yet the industry doesn't smh another example of the erasure Queen Ester spoke of...smh 😩😔
I specifically discuss Sweeney and his contribution to the banjo at length in my TED Talk. Moreover, I stand by my initial statement: Up until the 1840s, the banjo was synonymous with Black enslaved people. What's your point?
@@QueenEstheryour wrong and bitter and jealous. The modern banjo was inspired by the African stick on a gord w 2 strings. But keep the same energy w jazz all European instruments
@@Luminous_Figures Apparently, you're projecting because I'm definitely none of those things, which means you're the one that's wrong and bitter and jealous. Please feel free to say more about who you think I am, so you can continue to tell me who you really are. Like your name calling, your ignorance reveals you. Historians have had this argument about the banjo and settled it a long time ago. When you make statements like this, you're telling the whole world that you're dumb. And why would I ever want to stop you from doing that? So I guess what I'm saying is -- keep this same energy.
@@Luminous_Figures Apparently you're projecting, because I'm none of those things -- which means you're the one that's wrong and bitter and jealous. Please keep telling me who I am so you can continue to reveal who you really are. This argument about the origins of the banjo has been settled a long time ago, with facts -- not tender, delicate feelings like yours. The fact that you're spewing your diarrhetic ignorance here proves nothing and reveals you (see first paragraph). I'm gonna need you to keep this same energy, though. Everyone needs to know what you think.
Also according to these people below and historians: Rolling Stone - Country music r*cist history The Boot - Black country music history Ken Burns - Country Music
@@onigiri2136 rubbish. without the emancipation and education of africans by europeans, they'd still be living in huts. do you see how africans live in africa...
@@MSILBB According to your fake revisionist history. Your same "history" that claims the Chinese were black and white people came from space. We know you're full of it, and we know there's nothing on earth you won't try to steal.
This is patently untrue. Other cultures came to America and became a part of what African captives had already created and established sonically -- not the other way around.
@@QueenEsther That's some insane revisionist history. Scotts-Irish settlers defined the culture of Appalachia. They brought the fiddle, string bass, mandolin, guitar, dobro, dulcimer, harmonica, and more. And they brought their folk songs. These are the ROOT of country. You will never steal it. I'm disappointed you felt the need to put this divisive, hateful, false, biased garbage into the world.
Except, you are not accurate on this Esther. Just because some chick in a wig doing some pbs ted talk for rich white academia university types so she can get her speaking engagements booked the current school year doesn’t mean anything more than that. What you have is an opinion , one meant to deflate something seen as white, and frankly I question your motives. Country and bluegrass are both primarily sourced from the celts of the British isles . Period. Musicologist here. Teacher at the college level since 1987. The banjo is one instrument , not THE sound . It’s A sound. The blue notes were added to an existing musical form. They did not invent that musical form . The use of chords , the seven note scale, the ballad, the lyric song of a story, almost all of the instruments , the language, the dancing which became tap dancing in America, the jig and the reel were all brought here by Gaelic speaking Irish, Protestant Scottish and English , primarily. But obviously German snd french brought over much of the classical instruments including horns .as an aside Saying where the horn originated is not the point but to be specific it was india w the conch shell. The banjo as Africans brought it was a very basic version which didn’t include frets. It was primitive. It mixed with other influences to grtbb by the modern banjo. So u present the banjo as THE representation of country music which is amateur and juvenile. No one denies the massive impact of African Americans on American music so why do you need to dismiss the massive influence that white Europeans and specifically those from the British Isles and even more specifically the Irish who were the oppressed people of Europe who endured 900 years of slavery genocide oppression
Ah yes, I've also heard black people claim Mozart and Beethoven were black and that Europeans stole physics and aircraft technology from them. This is the most incorrect load of bullshit propaganda. Bluegrass' and Country's roots come almost entirely from the Scotch Irish that moved to the Appalachians and Ozarks. All you have to do is listen to Irish or Scottish trad and you are hearing bluegrass + bagpipes - banjo. "Black" music like Jazz started as imitation of white music, in this case classical music. Blues has origins in White gospel and European musical structure mixed with African call response style. Black people were playing jigs and reels on banjo, which was nothing like the primitive African banjo btw. Blacks played songs like "Briggs Corn Shucking Jig" and "Camptown Hornpipe." Sorry, your lies won't fly with people that are actually knowledgeable on this subject.
Oh please cite where BLUES originates from white gospel. That's not stated anywhere. "blues, secular folk music created by African Americans in the early 20th century, originally in the South. The simple but expressive forms of the blues became by the 1960s one of the most important influences on the development of popular music-namely, jazz, rhythm and blues, rock, and country music-throughout the United States." And "Among many African Americans there was a desire to move away from musical forms such as spirituals, which were identified with slavery days, and yet they also wanted musical styles of their own. A new sound arose in street and community music of African Americans in the late 19th century. It was usually one singer accompanied by a guitar and characterized by “bent” or “blue” notes, not on the standard scale. These notes likely had earlier origins, as they are found in rural African American work songs. Examples are found in field recordings of African American work songs made as the genre was disappearing" Courtesy of blogs . loc . gov and Britannica.
@@Glassessss The blues came from European harmony and African rhythm. Anglo/Celtic Christian hymns and folk songs formed a strong foundation for Blues. The incorporation of the pentatonic scale derives from European musical traditions, not African. It seems as if something is partially influenced by Black Americans, they claim it completely, like "soul food" which is almost entirely Anglo/German American food(fried chicken, pies, biscuits, cornbread, barbecue [Mexican/German/Czech], macaroni and cheese, etc). And if someone doesn't toe the line "activists" will force it into curriculum.
@@AlexP-jz9sg Cite your claims like I did. Origins of soul food. Courtesy of aaregistry which is reputable, just look it up since youtube doesn't allow outside links. "This dates Registry from 1492, offers a brief article on the origins of Soul food. Soul Food is a term used for an ethnic cuisine, food traditionally prepared and eaten by African Americans of the Southern United States. Many of the various dishes and ingredients included in "soul food" are also regional meals and comprise a part of other Southern US cooking, as well. The style of cooking originated during American slavery. African slaves were given only the "leftover" and "undesirable" cuts of meat from their masters (while the white slave owners got the meatiest cuts of ham, roasts, etc.)." Also: "Soul food is an ethnic cuisine traditionally prepared and eaten by African Americans, originating in the Southern United States cuisine originated with the foods that were given to enslaved black people by their white owners on Southern plantations during the Antebellum period; however, it was strongly influenced by the traditional practices of West Africans and Native Americans from its inception. Due to the historical presence of African Americans in the region, soul food is closely associated with cuisine of the American South although today it has become an easily identifiable and celebrated aspect of mainstream American food culture" th-cam.com/video/ebEesYUXxTI/w-d-xo.html It literally takes under 10 seconds to disprove your bs rhetoric. But that's typical. Any time another group creates something and you guys just happen to be standing in the same room at the time, you try to claim ownership of said creation. And when disproven all of a sudden it's some sort of higher scheme 'cooked up by the mainstream media and leftist liberals'
@@Glassessss You didn't provide examples. Provide examples of soul food and where they came from. I provided examples and their origins. I can look up a random website that states Swedes invented pizza, but they didn't. According to your source, soul food is essentially chitlins, which aren't even desirable by most modern palates and were eaten everywhere.
How in the world did Northerners eat or entertain themselves without having it invented for them? Stop this crap! Love each other. Rediscover your humanity. You are not a slave...except in your own mind!
Country music originated by the Scot Irish. the fiddle as well as Bluegrass (calling) singing came directly from the Irish existed thousands of years before American continents were colonized.. The African Slaves introduced the Banjo. This speaker rewrote history without actual evidence.
@@alexwestconsulting me putting a rubber band on a shoe box isnt a guitar. Blacks have no innovation they didn’t create anything. They think one instrument means they made country but disregard jazz which every instrument is form Europe
No the european white people brought there heritage music to america,bluegrass irish music and others not all of americaßs music is black influence.......
If you actually believe what this lady is telling you then I don't know what to say. Her revised version of the history of country music goes against what most historians believe: it originated in the Appalachian mountains with Scottish and Irish immigrants, then grew from there.
It’s amazing how divisive this presentation is. The mandolin is a key part of country music, as is the upright bass. It seems that lately African Americans want to take all the credit for every kind of music solely for themselves, rather than being co-creators as human beings. Everyone has a hand in sculpting and creating musical trends, whether it be country, rock, rap, or metal. Ice-T has a metal band. Ice Cube performed with Korn. Merle Haggard mixed jazz and ragtime in his country tunes. Jimmie Rodgers did as well, before Robert Johnson became the face of the blues. Country and blues are the benchmarks of all music that came after it. Its roots come from waltz music. From Wagner to Vivaldi to back and Beethoven, all music we enjoy now owes its roots to waltz. However, every performer has their own flavor, and there is no doubt that African Americans have had the most spicy and flavorful sounds the last hundred or so years. The fact that African Americans and so called “white people” can share a stage and enjoy playing music with each other and collaborating proves that we influence each other, and that our culture isn’t black or white. It’s human, and it’s American. No matter our tone, we’re American. Instead of griping about who did what first, let’s recognize that music can have roots all over the world, but the best comes from us, from America. While the country has a very pugnacious and despicable past, we’ve risen above it by seeking out each others music. Rap is huge, and has been over 30 years. R&B is still huge over 60 years later. Blues is still loved all over the world, and its creation spawned rock, metal music. In the comments everyone thinks they have some sort of phd or masters degree in music, the reality is that suffering is in all music, we can all relate to it. Joy is in all music. We benefit from the stories and heritage in spite of the hard times. It’s a shame that people are always groping about who is “appropriating” whose culture when we all have to share a very small planet for a very short time. We’re all human beings. Some of us have more talent for making music, many more have the talent for listening and enjoying it, regardless of who records and performs it. Who cares at this point who invented music? It’s about how it moves you. Does it make you feel good? Are you enjoying it? Do you want to make your own music and make people dance and feel what you want to convey? If so that makes you human. Not any color or creed, it simply makes you a normal emotional human being. Stop bickering about who invented what. We’re all in this together
While I can agree with you on certain humanitarian parts of your statement. That doesn't negate origins of music and source material. I am becoming a historian on a lot of things pertaining to my so called African American culture and it leaves me perplexed. 1st historically African American is a misnomer. Black is a misnomer. Majority of us were already here in 1492! Proper terminology describing a Majority of So called blacks/African Americans is American Indians. By way of Documents of Discovery, A large number of historical Documentation, memoirs, treaties, historically accurate books on the America's c.(1500's-1600)(1700-1890's) the American Indians they describe are: "Darkskin Negroes, stout build ,Curly ,wooly and smooth hair! They look like Afrikans but are yet different! "These are from Documents in the library of congress and the National Archives building. So that right there is problem #1. We are ommitted and constantly reclassified away from the truth of who we are, accomplishments,E.T.C. So it is Hard to believe we have done anything. We are written out of History constantly. Re-written as a false subservient people to fit a racist/classist narrative. Our contributions are constantly being taken by whites as their own. To many to name in categories from science, economic, to but not limited to music. We are tired of it for over 400 yrs!. There is so much Information, Documentation ,that is coming out that verifies we have been lied to purposefully to give others a economic floor. The Music industry no different! Sister Rosetta tharpe for Rock n Roll, which had her roots in county music style that comes from the so called black church. Little Richard the Architect of Rock and Roll. Yes we did not create every style of music. And we are talking about country music. There is a lot of music we did create and country has Major roots in our struggle and way of life as well! There is a lot we did.... we are beyond tired of not getting credit for, paid for , said music. We Are the Only group this happens to in this country! We just want to be Acknowledged for our contributions . Not have them stolen with false origin stories!
Love this post. It’s so annoying to keep hearing African American, I have nothing against Africans, but like you said we were already here and this government committed paper genocide. We are the copper colored aborigines of America, I believe they brought a few Africans here, but the labeling of African American is also giving our creations, culture and concepts to a different group of people. Much love and respect, our people need to wake up.
In the middle of a 7 minute TED Talk? How would that work -- interrupt me over a button and derail my entire delivery? It's not like I'm naked from the waist up.
@@Sean-jc6cu We invented u in the lab as well, duhhhhh read about Yakub grafting u in patimos mordern Turkey.. Yakub is Jacob in the Bible, enlil, zeus, Jesus and he goes by many names.. Oh yeah we invented u as an experiment and our brother aka satan now called Jacob did that shit..
The banjo was a musical instrument from Africa, the guitar came from Spain, the steel pedel guitar came from Germany, the mandolin came from Italy, the fiddle came from Ireland and Scotland and songwriting came from England!
If Africa is the origins of humans, civilization, culture and art then all of those instruments that you listed were built from an African instrument. The Spaniards were conquered by the Moors (African Black people). For 800 years the Moors ruled Spain. Look at the influence of Moorish or African people on Spanish culture. Africans were in India millennia ago as witnessed by the extremely dark skin of Indians.
@@nicholashernandez9804 of course that is part of it. Culture can have strong impact on a group. Just look at American cuisine. There is some European or White cuisine that we all can readily identify like Italian, Greek and German. We don’t think about British, Scottish, French or Irish cuisines. Most American cuisine is a combination of varying cultures. Black American culture has permeated every aspect of American culture from art, music, food, protest,extended family, and mental and emotional resilience, etc. White American culture has major impact on other Americans by upholding security via developing weaponry, war tactics, computer technology and sports. Every group impacts another upon contact.
@@whisper2284 the Moors were Middle Eastern and they were Muslim they enslaved black people and then they became Moors much later, a small percentage of Moors for black. The Moors went all over Europe and 95% of them wasn't Black.
@@HeathsHobbyLobby You’re incorrect. The Moors were referred to as “Black-a-moors for the color of their skin. The Moors originated as East and Northern Africans. Even Shakespeare wrote Othello describing the Moor as a Dark skinned man or Blackamoor. The Moor’s technology and advanced culture originated from their Eastern and Northern African origins. At the end of the day, Moors were of African descent. The Moors Intermarried and mixed with the cultures they conquered. They ruled Spain for 800 years and completely influenced and developed the country. Anyway that you slice it the Moors were considered of African descent with dark skin.
Unfortunately no. They created and influenced nothing. Whites created every population genre made every instrument in jazz rock n roll country etc. cope. Even the banjo which may be based of the African gord and stick with 2 strings was made by whits
😅 please, that is like claiming that white people invented early jazz because we invented the horns the trumpet that King Oliver and Louis Armstrong played, the trombone, the saxophone the Piccolo, the tuba… white people invented classical instrumentation which was modified to be able to play early jazz so I guess that means according to her logic whites invented jazz and invented big band music because of course, every instrument on there was invented by a white person… piano et all…and whites invented rock roll because electricity was invented by white people as was guitars, electric basses, microphones, and Beatle haircuts… all joking aside😂 all you have to do is listen to Irish music, early Irish traditional music and you’ll hear where the Appalachian music sound came from the lyrics, the stanzas, etc. of early country music… does everything have to be about race…. “can’t we all just get along“… “The only way to stop obsessing about race is to stop talking about it”… Morgan Freeman……..and lastly…”There are only 2 races, the decent and the indecent” Viktor Frankl….nuff said😏…just be decent and be done with it.
@@AlexP-jz9sg I will say that Classical music has also had influence from African American music (African based), Dvorak being one person. Others being: Ravel, Shostakovich, Gershwin, Bernstein and others.
@@AlexP-jz9sg I'm just going to leave this right here for anyone else that would like to read it. The Influence of African Musicians On Classical Music: "Although close to Queen Marie Antoinette, Saint-Georges was refused the prestigious post of director of the Paris Opéra, for which he was considered in 1775, because two of the company’s leading sopranos objected and successfully petitioned the Queen against his appointment on the ground of his race. Even so, he was a major star in Paris in the 1770s, nicknamed “Le Mozart Noir” on concert posters, often sharing equal billing with Mozart.The later part of Saint-Georges’ life was disrupted by the French Revolution. Although he had been active in campaigning against slavery and sympathised with the democratic aims of the revolution, his aristocratic background meant he was not trusted. Commemorative editions of his music were published, but within a short time, new restrictions on blacks came into force across France and its empire. Slavery had been abolished in 1794, but was re-imposed by Napoleon Bonaparte. Under Bonaparte’s regime, Saint-George and his music were removed from orchestra repertoires, wiping him from the history books for nearly 200 years." www.music-workshop.co.uk/resources/blog/the-influence-of-african-musicians-on-classical-music/#:~:text=Modern%20classical%20music%20has%20been%20more%20influenced%20by,only%20room%20on%20stage%20for%20a%20grand%20piano.
That's a total lie. There's really nothing on this planet you won't try to steal. The European classical tradition evolved in Europe. Nothing like it existed in Africa.
@@carbinfootprint159 It's the the truth when she's only telling half the story lol...bluegrass began way before blacks were prominent in the Appalachian mountains....Irish and Scottish people in the mountains created bluegrass and Africans added to it
@@cappriment the problem is .. he DID HIS OWN research. It apparently has gotten him nowhere… so instead of doing YOUR RESEARCH.. that benefits YOUR agenda/narrative.. And study ACTUAL RESEARCHING of material of facts that YOU WILL CHOOSE to ignore bc YOU disagree.
Here because of Beyonce country music fiasco. Lol. A lot of people don't know this history.
Me too girl😂😂
Me too need this education
all popular music was invented by black people, rock, jazz, blues, r&b, reggae, afrobeats, country.
@@lillystew also the internet, rockets, brain surgery...the question mark lol.
@@brucesmith1544 we’re talking about music and culture here. love how you didn’t disagree but diverted lol
Most peforming artist in the country music genre dont know the history behind the music & most importantly the instruments used in creating the sounds
I'm here because one of my college classes credited Bill Monroe with bluegrass music, but I knew better.
British folk music is the ROOT of bluegrass. Appalachian music from Celtic settlers. Stop stealing my history. Stop stealing my culture.
Except, you don’t know better. Just because some chick in a wig doing some pbs ted talk for rich white academia university types so she can get her speaking engagements booked the current school year doesn’t mean anything more than that.
Country and bluegrass are both primarily sourced from the celts of the British isles . Period. Musicologist here. Teacher at the college level since 1987. The banjo is one instrument not THE sound . It’s A sound. The blue notes were added to an existing musical form. They did not invent that musical form .
@@saucyjk6453 I have no idea why you feel the need to engage intellectually by spewing this level of vitriol (nothing an actual musicologist would do, btw -- whether they teach at a college level or not) instead of having what could have been an interesting discourse that allows all of us to learn from each other. I have no idea who hurt you. All I know for sure from your comment is that you are awash in a world of pain.
Your condescension -- amongst other things, apparently -- reveals you. I sincerely hope you get the professional help that you so desperately need. God bless you.
@@QueenEsther You can’t imagine someone getting fired up when you don a wig and try to falsely claim their culture as your own invention? Truth matters in the internet age, and calling out garbage like this is vital.
@@stoogel I wasn't wearing a wig. See how full of garbage you are?
This is a fight between constructed history vs what actually took place. Thank you queen esther for this.
This is constructed history. It's trying to ignore the Celtic and English folk tradition that is at the CORE of country music. You're pushing false narratives while we know what actually took place.
@@stoogel seriously? You really thought you had something to say? Black folks didn't get it from Europeans. Please stop the nonsense.
Because "Banjo" sounds so Celtic...
@@andreprim5417 Because fiddle, guitar, dulcimer, ballads, the singing style, and everything else ARE Celtic. Muh banjo
I had this argument with my French teacher on how black ppl were the original influencers of country music and she basically called me a hypocrite and said I was appropriating her culture🤷🏾♀️
Anonymous Dolphin of course she will say that, I was raised in France , all they do us steal from their African colonies.
That was so much of the truth for her to handle.
Anonymous Dolphin that’s because it isn’t from only black people
@Holey Moley no
@@niallhumphreys6918 every form of American music has black influence
It goes back to what Albert Murray (primarily a jazz and blues critic) wrote in his classic book Omni-Americans. We've always been polyglot, and a big part of white supremacy is the myth that we have always been separate with white being the prime mover. If you think your white life doesn't contain significant black elements, look harder.
What you state is absolutely true. The problem here is that she is asserting that black people invented country music unilaterally...exactly the same thing you warn of, but she does it without being questioned. Yes, the banjo was invented by black people and played by black people first, but the banjo is not the birth of country music.
This is because you don’t know history. Country music would not exist without Africans/African Americans. We are the originators. There is very little European influence. You keep telling people “they are wrong” but you can’t back anything up 😂. Look up Arnold Schultz and his impact on Bill Monroe and his crew, from fiddling and guitar playing, many others. Look up the impact of the Banjo and African playing styles, singing, vocal patterns and how they came to be in White Appalachia. Early bluegrass folk singers like Roscoe Holcomb (old timey music)whose playing style and singing had heavy African influence. Look up Africans and their impact on the Appalachian region after their arrival in 18th century. Look up how Whites didn’t get their hands on the Banjo until nearly 140 years in the 19th century after Africans had already been in the Appalachian region since the 18th century.
An instrument that we’ve been playing since we arrived in America. Look up how minstrelsy, radio, blacks touring, black churches, and black street playing impacted White Appalachia. Look up Akonting, the closest ancestor to the Banjo, but one of many related. You will find the claw hammer in Akonting that exists in bluegrass. You will quickly find that Africans were and are the progenitors of bluegrass and country, which Whites took from. There is very little European influence in bluegrass or country.
So we forgetting Jimmie Rodgers
Wrong, it’s primarily from the British isles. Black Americans use of the blue notes and the banjo were add one to an already existing musical form so you don’t know what u are talking about .
If I put Cajun spice in the chicken I can’t pretend the Cajun spice us the main ingredient
So would your position be that the blue note and blues scale are not pretty key ingredients to what became known as country music? If "no" is your answer, I'd urge you to listen again, because you aren't hearing what I'm hearing.
And assuming your response was to me, my point was not that country was a black invention. It was that, per Murray, country is polyglot - a mix of many influences, black musics being some of them.
Here after lil nas x reclaimed the throne. Snatched his birthright of bango music back#blackboyjoy
Y'all niggas wack
@@nunyabeeswax8688 why so but hurt though? ☺
@@k6sm9sgg40that song is retarded and it's only one song
@@nunyabeeswax8688 stfu dumbass
You act like you invented country when it’s really a mixture of African/Celtic/Irish
She is so beautiful!!!
That lil song put tears in my eyes
The truth shall set us free and give us back our true Identity... thanks for da Insight and Enlightenment.
The truth shall MAKE us free!
You’re obsessed with stealing the identity, history, and culture of other people, hence revisionist lies like this video.
And here we are! Black country artists are all in the news nowadays
Who is the banjo player?
The banjoist is Ayodele Maakheru. He's performed in several Broadway shows including Shuffle Along, Lackawanna Blues and most recently, Sheridan Square.
What a woman, what a message 🙌🏼
What a load of PC bullshit
@@saucyjk6453 Your heart needs a band-aid.
her intonation is sometimes like Wanda Coleman's, the black LA poet
this needs more views wth
*The truth can not be seen, it can only discovered.
The song Texas Hold Em has this vid getting play now.
NOW "OLD TOWN ROAD" THAT!
Lame buster ass song
lil nas x invented country
powerful wonderful moving funny truthful informative piece...bravo..thanks!
Thank you too!! ❤ Mic'2024 😊!!
What about the Celtic Influences???
Of course she won't talk about the Irish and Scottish influence. The music in Ireland is still the same today and it sounds just like early bluegrass
Please stop the buffoonery - the African instrument that eventually became the banjo was ALREADY in North America since the FORCED ARRIVAL of Africans at Jamestown, Virginia...and that date starts at 1619 in North America. 1619 is noted as the start point for African ENSLAVEMENT on the North American continent…of which a large land area later became the United States. North America was settled by the ENGLISH - peoples of Celtic heritage arrived much later to the continent. The Celts get credit for ADDING to the sound after the fact, but NOT before...as it was Africans who first created the original instrument and its sounds. You can't claim original credit for a group that arrived AFTER the fact...but you get co-credit for adding to the banjo's influence and sounds, and that's something you can take with you.
@@Sean-jc6cu Please stop the buffoonery - the African instrument that eventually became the banjo was ALREADY in North America since the FORCED ARRIVAL of Africans at Jamestown, Virginia...and that date starts at 1619 in North America. 1619 is noted as the start point for African ENSLAVEMENT on the North American continent…of which a large land area later became the United States. North America was settled by the ENGLISH - peoples of Celtic, Irish, and Scottish heritage arrived much later to the continent. The Celts and everyone else get credit for ADDING to the sound after the fact, but NOT before...as it was Africans who first created the original instrument and its sounds. You can't claim original credit for a group that arrived AFTER the fact...but you get co-credit for adding to the banjo's influence and sounds, and that's something you can take with you.
@@kevinc3342 No one is talking about the banjo you fucking idiot
@@Sean-jc6cu You're the idiot - the ENTIRE video is African influence on the banjo. If you want to discuss "Celtic influences," you're on the wrong YT video. Perhaps there is confusion on your part, but my comment stands firm.
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Great show!! Love it! Very entertaining. A wee bit of research shows history as about 1500 BC from ancient Persia.. Still great!
Smh the deflection is strong with this one. This is not a show, it is an educational presentation with historical context and the purpose to educate.Your obtuse willfulness is showing, you may want to go handle that before you become embarrassed 😳 😔
Fun fact: a person's nationality does not dictact their ethnicity.
Also Persia is most know for creating the first postal system with communications to African and Asian countries which mean culture regarding music could easily be recieved.
Smh how about you go and do a big bit of research.
Edit:
Rolling Stone - Country music r*cist history
The Boot - Black country music history
Ken Burns - Country Music
You really typed this foolishness?
@@onigiri2136 I love how you started off with Star Wars and backed everything up with facts.
All of the popular forms of music created in the United States comes from black people. Spirituals, folk, blues, country, jazz , rock n roll, r&b , soul, techno , house , hip hop, and some would say jimi Hendrix invented metal.
The sista even states that the banjo comes from Africa, depictions of lutes can also be seen in ancient Africa art.
Could watch them Forever!!!!
Standing Ovation!!!
I think of Beyoncé "Texas Hold Em". (Cowboy Carter).
They did a very lovely job!!!! I like this presentation!!!
When some see a title like the “Black origins of country music” or the “black influence on country music “they think that this is somehow saying that it was invented by them.
It’s two main add-ons to an already existing musical form …..which came out of Ireland England and Scotland ….are the use of Bluenotes , and the banjo . The banjo is one instrument , and many other instruments are used in both bluegrass and country music OK so basically the banjo …..the idea of even fretting notes which the banjo borrowed from the guitar is different than the actual instrument that was brought over from Africa which is a basic string instrument that could be made very basic and quickly with a gourd but it was not a fretted instrument it was just a very cheap and inexpensive instrument that they basically added the banjo to all the others which all came from Europe the mandolin the upright bass violin the guitar so those two additions while they definitely added to the form we know as country and bluegrass are more like flavorings they are not the main ingredients
the song structure the idea of a song itself is European the chord sequence idea even using chords is European , the language was from Europe , the whole idea of a ballad ….the storytelling arc and narrative of a ballad …are all from European tradition …..it would be a good idea before you go shooting your mouth off like you know what you’re talking about to do your homework learn a little bit and stop trying to put other people down just so you can feel better about yourself
That last sentence is a textbook example of projection -- a psychological phenomenon where feelings directed towards the self are directed towards others. I have to ask: Did your attempt to put me down make you feel better about yourself?
The fact that you're convinced that condescension is in play at all in this talk is revealing, laughable and very disturbing.
All of which begs the question -- Who hurt you?
Black people created ALL American music genres. Which musical art form did we NOT create?? The one that makes suspected white supremacists the most mad is Rock and Roll. If music is American culture...then BLACK PEOPLE ARE THE CULTURE.
@@QueenEsther in other words, every point I made is irrefutable so you play vending machine psychologist to try and score a point. Your entire presentation is exactly what you are trying to stick on me, projection. You are the one projecting and who has a severe inferiority complex.
@@QueenEsther when you completely ignore the massive input of European Americans on American music and you are trying , but failing, to condescend. Cheat is a better word however, not your interpretation of what I said.
The guitar as we know it as a child of the Arabian oud.
Although the popular notion currently is that one group of people literally created all the music, food, etc. in America while all other seemingly brought nothing from their own shores, most know this is ridiculous. All people brought their ways with them and they show up all over this amazing country. Music, food...all mixed up and fused together. Maybe that isn't enough. Maybe this prevents people from feeling special. I don't want to live in England, Africa, or anywhere else. I am an American. For me, that is enough.
Good point. All the talk about not being recognized while in the same breath trying to take all the credit
🌟this girl is on 🔥 with truth in speech and song #queenesther
@@rickywagner6990 you need to watch the video again. You clearly heard nothing of what she talked about.
@@rickywagner6990 ...as if making a minstrel song is a point of honor....but OK. Not only that, the narrator noted that by the mid-1840s the banjo was a part of minstrel shows. Blackface performers STOLE the idea of the banjo from Africans as the instrument was ALREADY in North America since the FORCED ARRIVAL of Africans at Jamestown, Virginia...and that date starts at 1619 in North America. 1619 is noted as the start point for African ENSLAVEMENT on the North American continent…of which a large land area later became the United States. North America was settled by the ENGLISH and they did NOT bring any instrument that had the sounds of anything that resembled the AFRICAN instrument. Everyone else gets credit for ADDING to the sound after the fact, but NOT before...as it was Africans who first created the original instrument and its sounds. You can't claim original credit for a concept AFTER the fact...but you get co-credit for adding to the banjo's influence and sounds, and that's something you can take with you.
Great talk. Thank you, Queen Esther.
I don't deny the truth of some of what she is saying but I don't get how white southerners took on black culture and black food. How exactly did they do this? Please someone explain this because I don't see this. I think country music is derived from various influences. So if the banjo is African, did the Spanish guitar, which was influenced by the Moors, not help shape country music. I think it's wrong to preach total creation comes from Africans because that's not entirely true. A contribution yes!!!
This will clear up your confusion. Enslaved people were from various African countries. They brought their knowledge of instruments. The Moors are African. That is what Moor means, “The Black”. As for the food., look at traditional European foods. Then look at Traditional African foods. Now when you think about Southern white food which is it closest too? European or African? Enslaved Blacks cooked and created most southern cuisine. Black peoples throughout the world have shared so many wonderful cultural, artistic, technological talents alongside the talents of Asians, and Europeans. To acknowledge black contributions should not diminish the talents and contributions of others.
I don't know if you knew this, but the Moors were African. Sooooo...if Spanish guitar DID help shape country music, then it's an African influenced source as well. But as for your original question about food, there are American food staples and spices that we use all the time that are African/Asian in origin. i dont know them all, but rice, millet, yams, coffee, sorghum, some strains of kale and cabbage. 2021 Americans may not know or care about these foods, and some of them arent exclusive to Africa. there are similar counterparts in Europe. But historically, during the foundation of this country, these foods were a really big deal! This wasn't just stuff that Africans ate, all people here at this stuff. Additionally, there are significant cooking styles and methods from Africa that either did not exist in Europe or were very similar. Either way, things kind of fused together and folks either downplayed, denied or didn't know of the African contribution. But that's not an American phenomenon, that happens all over the world. That's life. We still owe it to ourselves to know the truth. Think about Chinese food and how it's crept into American culture and identity. There are so many ways that they traditionally cook food that (although not exclusive to China) were pretty new or not mainstream in the US but now they are. In fact, we eat totally NON Chinese foods from America that are totally spin offs of how Chinese dishes are commonly made. But we don't think about that, it tastes good, we eat it and are none the wiser. That's especially true if some of these cultural traits are similar to something we already do on our own.
@@whisper2284 Thanks for your reply but Queen Esther is talking about the banjo here. Slaves weren't playing guitars. The guitars are Spanish. Later taken into Mexico then up north into what would later become the US southwest. Country music is mostly centered around guitars. As a matter of fact her talk should be retitled as The Origins of Blue Grass Music because that is where the banjo is played. Johnny Cash, Garth Brooks, George Strait, Alan Jackson all carried with them guitars on stage not banjos. My argument is that the guitar comes from white American interaction with the Spanish/Mexicans of the southwest namely Texas where they got the influence of the guitar. The guitar is the instrument that country music is shaped around. That bit of history should also be acknowledged. She's trying to claim that the true origins of country music is from slaves while denying others their influence that also has been overlooked. If all country music artists played banjos then Queen Esther's talk would have more relevancy but that is not the case. You said it yourself: "To acknowledge black contributions should not diminish the talents and contributions of others." but that is what she is doing.
I get the food part now but the culture I don't see that still.
@@chrisdufor-pulliam4901 I get the food part now but I don't get the culture part.
As for the Spanish guitar, true influenced by the moors but as in most cases when other people take on a creation by others it gets improved upon. Today's modern guitar is not the same as what was being played by the moors. Like the man playing the banjo in the video, that's a modern variation of what slaves were playing in the south. (I think it would have been more impressive if he was playing an actual banjo similar to the one slaves would have played.) The banjo got improved upon. So the guitar was introduced to Americans by the Spanish/Mexicans not the Moors. To say guitars are only Moorish is denying the contributions of the Spanish to the instrument.
Queen Esther is talking about the banjo here. Slaves weren't playing guitars. The guitars are Spanish. Later taken into Mexico then up north into what would later become the US southwest. Country music is mostly centered around guitars. As a matter of fact her talk should be retitled as The Origins of Blue Grass Music because that is the musical genre where the banjo is played. Johnny Cash, Garth Brooks, George Strait, Alan Jackson all carried with them guitars on stage surrounded by others playing guitars not banjos. My argument is that the guitar comes from white American interaction with the Spanish/Mexicans of the southwest namely Texas where they got the influence of the guitar. The guitar is the instrument that country music is shaped around. That bit of history should also be acknowledged. She's trying to claim that the true origins of country music is from slaves while denying others their influence that also has been overlooked. If all country music artists played banjos then Queen Esther's talk would have more relevancy but that is not the case. Again a great influence came from black slaves but to claim total creation is not true.
@@newvibes789 I am an American and it is curious to see how resistant this country is to learning its true cultural heritage. African American cultural influences abound but they are rarely acknowledged. For some reason non-Black people have a very difficult time accepting this fact. Look at how quickly you indicated Spain created the guitar without acknowledging the Black moors’ (African people) influence on the Spaniard. Also, there was absolutely ZERO mention of a guitar in my post. What our young, baby America fails to recognize is the African American hails from Africa via the transatlantic economic exploitation of labor by White Europeans and White Americans. The enslaved African brought with them a civilization that is the oldest on earth. Africans existed over 150,000 years before the European existed. They brought a plethora of skills from the motherland that melded with American soil and needs. You can not take a people as old as the African and not learn from them. It is a beautiful thing. The young learning from the old.
Great legends of Country Music are passing from Johnny Cash to George Jones to Kenny Rogers and Glen Campbell and here we are in the Cordillera Region of the Philippines was and is been waiting for the Country Music Industry's recognition of us the fans and Cordilleran Country Artist!! My father died in 2015 hoping for a Country Music Artist's tour here in the Philippines in his lifetime. Why does the mainstreem Country Music Industry neglect us the Country Music loving people here in the Philippines for like forever?
STFU with your whiny bullsh*t! HOW DARE YOU!
How dare you come on a video discussing and highlighting the impactful influence of the Black true founders of country music who have been atrociously mistreated, erased, and stolen from to uplift your white so called "Great legends of Country Music"! Are you dumb??!
Seriously, delete this stupid af comment then go watch Yellow Rose and STFU!
Without Black people there would be no country music, but instead of honoring their plight and acknowledging their influence, talent, and impact, you idiotically deflect from the real message of the TedTalk to highlight your dead father's ignored pipe dream???!!
Internationally acclaimed and recognized American artist do not frequently perform in Asian countries yet you're butt hurt that discriminatory white theiving country artists have not performed in the Phillipines??!
Smh, ridiculous 🤬😡😤 but unfortunately not suprised 🙄😒
Lol Philippines isn’t that relevant in the music world
@@whitepouch0904 We are very relevant like any other countries in the world because 98% of great singers are from the Philippines. Music does not only revolve in America but universal. It is the main reason why other countries' music and other relevant issues are not recognized because of the me attitude in America.
God has blessed our people with so many gifts and a strength from beyond our black women is the foundation Those on the mayflower all would have died if they had to endure the conditions we came over as slaves. That’s why I know I come from a strong people and those who hate me are weak. Thats why you teach your kids the real history because the other side is scared to know how evil and wicked their grandparents were they have to live with that.
So white people should live in perpetual guilt because some white forefathers did your forefathers harm? Additionally, are black people forever condemned to live a life of oppression and victimhood?
What about white abolitionists that eventually ended the slavery? What about the fact that about 5% of American families in the 1860s had slaves?
Slavery has been a world-wide thing for thousands of years. And most of it was not a racial thing. Africans enslaved other Africans. Today there is more African slavery on that continent than ever. Do you know that the word slave came from the word Slav? Yes, white Europeans were slaves to Arab chiefs.
Your whole narrative is filled with holes.
Absolutely AMAZING she lives up to her name!
I'm here to confirm that I was right when I told my friends that black people created county music
They didn't. Do more research, rather than just watching a TED talk with only 13k views.
@@declanstewart5690They did. You should probably do some research. They brought the banjo. They taught Maybelle Carter of the Carter family to play the slide guitar. Rufus Payne was the mentor of Hank Williams. Bill Monroe's tutor was a black man and he taught Monroe Bluegrass music. Ray Charles had one of the highest selling County albums of all time. So yes they did invent it,
@@visionquest7870 none of the individuals you mentioned invented it. The banjo isn't even that important to country music, especially today. The guitar and fiddle is way more important and those come from Europe. But if you want to say it's black because of one instrument, the case could be made that jazz is a white genre because all the instruments used come from Europe.
@@declanstewart5690 LOL. The guitar doesn't come from Europe. The guitar earliest origins are in Egypt or possibly Mesopotamia. The banjo was instrumental in early country music development and now it is featured in bluegrass.
@@visionquest7870 what we know as a guitar today comes from Spain. Even the modern banjo, not the African one made of like sticks and mud, comes from a white american. The fiddle, which comes from Celtic migrants, is way more important to country music than the banjo. Do you even listen to it?
So much victim hood. She keeps referring herself as”us” when talking about slavery. She was never a slave nor was even her great grandpa parents.
This is like me making a presentation about my grandparents being farmer and me taking credit by saying “us.”
Stop taking credit for things didn’t happen to you. Just tell the history with out hurt hurt and collective victimhood of things mente happen to you.
it's called stage acting idiot
There has been many and continued research efforts across numerous fields that delve into the genetic impact of trauma especially via ADOS.
Take a minute to gain some knowledge and do some research and stop being a victim, deflector, and blame shifter. There are many scientific articles, but I thought these would be easier for you to understand. Have fun. 😉
Teen Vogue - Trauma from slavery can be passed down through genes
Rolling Stone - Country music r*cist history
The Boot - Black country music history
Ken Burns - Country Music
@@onigiri2136 They don’t care, they just don’t want to own up to their deeds. Now if you talk about the Jews, well then that’s a different story.
The birth of America was through victimhood and remains celebrated to this day with reenactments of the revolutionary war. People alive today haven't paid taxes to the crown but they still talk about it for educational purposes.
First of all, there is absolutely not one shred of victimhood in any of what I've said in my TED Talk. I simply tell what took place -- not some shiny sanitized convoluted feel-good version of American history. Secondly, I am an ADOS -- an American descendant of slavery, two generations removed and raised by my maternal great-grandparents and grandparents. I have every right to say we and us when referring to my ancestors, for obvious reasons.
Last but not least: IMHO as a nation, we still experience constant aftershocks of The Civil War, in part because it has never ended, the trauma of the enslaved has been passed down through generations and the American public has been woefully miseducated about basic American history. Apparently, your cognitive bias is a testimony to this, and how easily anyone can be misled if they don't know how to think critically -- especially when they think they know.
For more --
"It didn't start with Trump: how America came to undervalue teachers" www.theguardian.com/education/2018/oct/05/reagan-nation-at-risk-education-policy-trump-bush
"How the Reagan Administration Used "A Nation at Risk" to Push for School Privatization" historynewsnetwork.org/article/185518
Oh, and this one is just for you -- The Dunning-Kruger Effect Explained www.healthline.com/health/dunning-kruger-effect
What a load of tripe. The origin of country music comes from the folk songs of the British Isles,
And the original Britons, right before recessive gene people were grafted on planet Nirn
Nope guess again...cite your sources a few of mine are below:
Rolling Stone - Country music r*cist history
The Boot - Black country music history
Ken Burns - Country Music
@@psionicpowers132 lol 😆 😂 🤣 you're crazy 🤪
@@onigiri2136 You rely on "sources" like Rolling Stone. Ken Burns pathetic "history of country music" and "The Boot Black country music history" for your information? Whatever floats your boat I suppose, those 'histories are pretty inaccurate and incomplete But I would suggest you try doing some research yourself and actually listening to some early country music - the stuff recorded in the 1920's and '30's. No doubt Blacks made many contributions to popular music and some old verses from blues and spirituals made their way into country music songs because nobody tried to make music into a racial thing until recently; music used to be like, universal. Mainly Blacks always seemed to prefer blues, jazz, 'rhythm and blues' and later rock 'n' roll to country music Country music is one genre of music with several sub-genres that originally came from folk songs, mostly from the British isles and Europe and popular composed songs of the 19th and early 20th century.. Interestingly, there have been very few Black country music performers over the decades. the only "stars" I know of were DeFord Bailey (an original member of the Grand Old Opry and a member of the Country Music Hall of Fame) and Charlie Pride.
@@William1939 No…just no 😂. That isn’t to say it doesn’t have some Euro influence but it’s minimal. It cannot exist without African Americans because that’s the foundation.
Happy Resurrection Day, y'all! No one should be hating on anyone today...or any day.
So your saying the slavers didnt sing or play instruments? I doubt they lived that boring of a life.
North American colonisers came from Europe. They were heavily influenced by Roman Catholicism, the protestant movement, hymns, and folk music of their cultural traditions as well as classical music composers - baroque, gregorian chant, choral choirs. Inventiveness wasn't so much an issue as was assimilation and the merging of various influences. Also, if you really stop and listen to the musical intonation of country music and the banjo, it doesn't seem to have European intonations.
@@deanjones2525 Then you aren't listening enough. Listen to Appalachian music. Listen to Clarence Ashley's recording of "Coo Coo Bird", which is a direct adaptation of the English folk song "The Cuckoo". Celtic and English folk music is the ROOT of Country music. Settlers brought the fiddle and all its tradition, the dulcimer, mandolin, harmonica, string bass... I could go on.
I see no lies here , very informative video
No lies. Just a metric sh*t ton of omissions.
Bluegrass actually comes from Irish people but okay go ahead lol
Remember irish ppl were mixed ppl they only considered white in the 1940s black history is a must for white ppl this is why we so divided and its on purpose
@@truehistory261 no, Irish weren’t mixed people. They were overwhelmingly poor and used as labor in the British empire.
@@goforbroke4428 oh you dont know you history i see......smh
@@truehistory261 Irish people are white and have always been treated as such.
@@mikebobson2768 yea theyare white now and yea they always have been treated bad bc of the mixed heritage look at some old Italian ppl 1800's and later and tell me what you see
Anybody who know anything knows this is bs.
1. The banjo was based off the African instrument but was not the same. The African instrument was a stick and a gord with 2 strings.
2. The rest of the instruments and playing styles were European folk music.
3. Country music is based off of American folk music bluegrass and European folk which is all white music.
4. If blacks having created the banjo means they created county music, then whites created jazz considering every single instrument in jazz was made by whites. ( the first jazz player was white Nick larocca and the first jazz band was all whites odjb.)
The Banjo came from the Black Europeans that were expelled from Europe by Oliver Cromwell.
That's complete nonsense. There were no black Europeans. Stop stealing what is not yours and EDUCATE YOURSELF.
Brilliant text, performance and music!
Country music orginated with the white fiddlers , fidlin by John Carson is considered thr first country song with vocals , there were Africans that came later with the banjjo and their influences but whites started the genre
No no no brother
@@truehistory261 uh yes yes yes smooth brain. This woman above has an inferiority complex and is discrediting everything.
@@trapontap4609 wow....... a inferiority complex see what has happened you guys have been lie to also not just blk ppl john carson was born right after slavery ENDED but the enslave africans brought the banjjo during slavery the african had this style of music way before john carson was born they classified blk music as race music this in included Rock jazz and all the other music that black people were making at that time as white ppl startes putting different instruments infused with the african type of music then they started categorizing the music as far as country rock and other thing but if you look at some music by blk ppl it sounds just like country and it pre dates john carson learn african and native blk american history it will blow your mine and see how every race of ppl was lied too.
@@truehistory261 my people from Appalachia (Tennessee, northern Georgia and Alabama, and kentucky) have been listening to the same music for the past 250 years.
No yall stole it and called it something else the name we know today country music . Damn except the truth .
The banjo is african influence...the narrative story songs came from Irish people
Do some research instead of speaking nonsense...js
Rolling Stone - Country music r*cist history
The Boot - Black country music history
Ken Burns - Country Music
The banjo is based on Persian and Asian instruments. No one speaks about the influence white music had on blues, like blues just appeared out of nothing. Pathetic
Lies, the banjo has nothing to do with Asia. Whites had no influence on the Blues. It is a direct import from Africa. Y’all are sad.
@MSILBB You are only correct about the banjo not being Asian. The rest of your statement is based on your feelings. Get that chip off of your shoulder.
@@onigiri2136 pathetic
Wow racisim has gone that far . God forgave us .
Where do you think metal came from? Once you slow it down it’s all blues
@@OriginalKingRichTv yup! Death was the first punk rock band. They started out as a funk band then started using music to release trauma and tension and created punk rock. All punk rock bands acknowledge them yet the industry doesn't smh another example of the erasure Queen Ester spoke of...smh 😩😔
Up until the 1840's? Um...Joel Walker Sweeney would like to have a word.
I specifically discuss Sweeney and his contribution to the banjo at length in my TED Talk. Moreover, I stand by my initial statement: Up until the 1840s, the banjo was synonymous with Black enslaved people.
What's your point?
What about Joel Sweeney? Another racist thief.
@@QueenEstheryour wrong and bitter and jealous. The modern banjo was inspired by the African stick on a gord w 2 strings. But keep the same energy w jazz all European instruments
@@Luminous_Figures Apparently, you're projecting because I'm definitely none of those things, which means you're the one that's wrong and bitter and jealous. Please feel free to say more about who you think I am, so you can continue to tell me who you really are.
Like your name calling, your ignorance reveals you. Historians have had this argument about the banjo and settled it a long time ago. When you make statements like this, you're telling the whole world that you're dumb. And why would I ever want to stop you from doing that?
So I guess what I'm saying is -- keep this same energy.
@@Luminous_Figures Apparently you're projecting, because I'm none of those things -- which means you're the one that's wrong and bitter and jealous. Please keep telling me who I am so you can continue to reveal who you really are.
This argument about the origins of the banjo has been settled a long time ago, with facts -- not tender, delicate feelings like yours. The fact that you're spewing your diarrhetic ignorance here proves nothing and reveals you (see first paragraph).
I'm gonna need you to keep this same energy, though. Everyone needs to know what you think.
Speak truth. America would be nothing without us.
Now that's funny.
This is completely wrong lol. Laughable. We wuz😂.
First there where Ninja.. (japan)
soon later we had American Ninja..
according to her...
Also according to these people below and historians:
Rolling Stone - Country music r*cist history
The Boot - Black country music history
Ken Burns - Country Music
@@onigiri2136 rubbish. without the emancipation and education of africans by europeans, they'd still be living in huts. do you see how africans live in africa...
No according to history 😂
How to say you are a hater if the truth without saying it. That's white privileged right there😂😂😂😂😂
@@MSILBB According to your fake revisionist history. Your same "history" that claims the Chinese were black and white people came from space. We know you're full of it, and we know there's nothing on earth you won't try to steal.
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The blacks did make a sizeable impact but the origins was actually celtic
Go educate yourself...
Rolling Stone - Country music r*cist history
The Boot - Black country music history
Ken Burns - Country Music
This is patently untrue. Other cultures came to America and became a part of what African captives had already created and established sonically -- not the other way around.
I see mixture of both African and Ireland
@@QueenEsther That's some insane revisionist history. Scotts-Irish settlers defined the culture of Appalachia. They brought the fiddle, string bass, mandolin, guitar, dobro, dulcimer, harmonica, and more. And they brought their folk songs. These are the ROOT of country. You will never steal it. I'm disappointed you felt the need to put this divisive, hateful, false, biased garbage into the world.
Except, you are not accurate on this Esther. Just because some chick in a wig doing some pbs ted talk for rich white academia university types so she can get her speaking engagements booked the current school year doesn’t mean anything more than that. What you have is an opinion , one meant to deflate something seen as white, and frankly I question your motives.
Country and bluegrass are both primarily sourced from the celts of the British isles . Period. Musicologist here. Teacher at the college level since 1987. The banjo is one instrument , not THE sound . It’s A sound. The blue notes were added to an existing musical form. They did not invent that musical form .
The use of chords , the seven note scale, the ballad, the lyric song of a story, almost all of the instruments , the language, the dancing which became tap dancing in America, the jig and the reel were all brought here by Gaelic speaking Irish, Protestant Scottish and English , primarily. But obviously German snd french brought over much of the classical instruments including horns .as an aside Saying where the horn originated is not the point but to be specific it was india w the conch shell. The banjo as Africans brought it was a very basic version which didn’t include frets. It was primitive. It mixed with other influences to grtbb by the modern banjo.
So u present the banjo as THE representation of country music which is amateur and juvenile.
No one denies the massive impact of African Americans on American music so why do you need to dismiss the massive influence that white Europeans and specifically those from the British Isles and even more specifically the Irish who were the oppressed people of Europe who endured 900 years of slavery genocide oppression
THE PIANO ALL SO FROM AFRICA; AND MORE; EVEN THE THUMB PIANO
Ah yes, I've also heard black people claim Mozart and Beethoven were black and that Europeans stole physics and aircraft technology from them. This is the most incorrect load of bullshit propaganda. Bluegrass' and Country's roots come almost entirely from the Scotch Irish that moved to the Appalachians and Ozarks. All you have to do is listen to Irish or Scottish trad and you are hearing bluegrass + bagpipes - banjo. "Black" music like Jazz started as imitation of white music, in this case classical music. Blues has origins in White gospel and European musical structure mixed with African call response style. Black people were playing jigs and reels on banjo, which was nothing like the primitive African banjo btw. Blacks played songs like "Briggs Corn Shucking Jig" and "Camptown Hornpipe." Sorry, your lies won't fly with people that are actually knowledgeable on this subject.
@Gingerbreadman GanjaFarmer You don’t know what gospel means, therefore stick to what you know, like smoking moldy weed.
Oh please cite where BLUES originates from white gospel. That's not stated anywhere.
"blues, secular folk music created by African Americans in the early 20th century, originally in the South. The simple but expressive forms of the blues became by the 1960s one of the most important influences on the development of popular music-namely, jazz, rhythm and blues, rock, and country music-throughout the United States."
And
"Among many African Americans there was a desire to move away from musical forms such as spirituals, which were identified with slavery days, and yet they also wanted musical styles of their own. A new sound arose in street and community music of African Americans in the late 19th century. It was usually one singer accompanied by a guitar and characterized by “bent” or “blue” notes, not on the standard scale. These notes likely had earlier origins, as they are found in rural African American work songs. Examples are found in field recordings of African American work songs made as the genre was disappearing"
Courtesy of blogs . loc . gov and Britannica.
@@Glassessss The blues came from European harmony and African rhythm. Anglo/Celtic Christian hymns and folk songs formed a strong foundation for Blues. The incorporation of the pentatonic scale derives from European musical traditions, not African. It seems as if something is partially influenced by Black Americans, they claim it completely, like "soul food" which is almost entirely Anglo/German American food(fried chicken, pies, biscuits, cornbread, barbecue [Mexican/German/Czech], macaroni and cheese, etc). And if someone doesn't toe the line "activists" will force it into curriculum.
@@AlexP-jz9sg
Cite your claims like I did.
Origins of soul food. Courtesy of aaregistry which is reputable, just look it up since youtube doesn't allow outside links.
"This dates Registry from 1492, offers a brief article on the origins of Soul food.
Soul Food is a term used for an ethnic cuisine, food traditionally prepared and eaten by African Americans of the Southern United States. Many of the various dishes and ingredients included in "soul food" are also regional meals and comprise a part of other Southern US cooking, as well. The style of cooking originated during American slavery. African slaves were given only the "leftover" and "undesirable" cuts of meat from their masters (while the white slave owners got the meatiest cuts of ham, roasts, etc.)."
Also:
"Soul food is an ethnic cuisine traditionally prepared and eaten by African Americans, originating in the Southern United States cuisine originated with the foods that were given to enslaved black people by their white owners on Southern plantations during the Antebellum period; however, it was strongly influenced by the traditional practices of West Africans and Native Americans from its inception. Due to the historical presence of African Americans in the region, soul food is closely associated with cuisine of the American South although today it has become an easily identifiable and celebrated aspect of mainstream American food culture"
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It literally takes under 10 seconds to disprove your bs rhetoric. But that's typical. Any time another group creates something and you guys just happen to be standing in the same room at the time, you try to claim ownership of said creation. And when disproven all of a sudden it's some sort of higher scheme 'cooked up by the mainstream media and leftist liberals'
@@Glassessss You didn't provide examples. Provide examples of soul food and where they came from. I provided examples and their origins. I can look up a random website that states Swedes invented pizza, but they didn't. According to your source, soul food is essentially chitlins, which aren't even desirable by most modern palates and were eaten everywhere.
Basically, white people just showed up after every single thing was already made.
Wtf are we aliens? Lolol
U are the grays aka Yakub children
@@psionicpowers132 yakub were black
Technology and more inventions. Shut up it’s called mixing.
She's lying and stealing the folk traditions of Europe. Do your own research and ignore this crap.
ihad to do this for school (1/10)
How in the world did Northerners eat or entertain themselves without having it invented for them? Stop this crap! Love each other. Rediscover your humanity. You are not a slave...except in your own mind!
She says “we” a lot, who is she talking about?
Country music originated by the Scot Irish. the fiddle as well as Bluegrass (calling) singing came directly from the Irish existed thousands of years before American continents were colonized.. The African Slaves introduced the Banjo. This speaker rewrote history without actual evidence.
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Yes, the banjo was invented by black people. No, the banjo is not the birth of country music.
Is wasnt invented by blacks though😅they made a stick on a gord with two strings. The banjo was made by a white guy
@@Luminous_Figures what “they” invented is effectively the banjo. The gord devices predate the banjo.
@@alexwestconsulting me putting a rubber band on a shoe box isnt a guitar. Blacks have no innovation they didn’t create anything. They think one instrument means they made country but disregard jazz which every instrument is form Europe
Damn so the only white genre out there is classical music lol 😆
No the european white people brought there heritage music to america,bluegrass irish music and others not all of americaßs music is black influence.......
@@guitarman1inwd Go educate yourself...
Rolling Stone - Country music r*cist history
The Boot - Black country music history
Ken Burns - Country Music
Classicfm has a great article detailing 9 Black composers who changed classical music. Look it up when you have a chance
If you actually believe what this lady is telling you then I don't know what to say. Her revised version of the history of country music goes against what most historians believe: it originated in the Appalachian mountains with Scottish and Irish immigrants, then grew from there.
Please don't listen to this awful revisionist video. They're trying to erase our culture. There is NO country music without British folk music.
As an African all I can say is 'Oh boy'.
Why
It's some awful revisionist history, and her lies are still spread today.
It’s amazing how divisive this presentation is. The mandolin is a key part of country music, as is the upright bass. It seems that lately African Americans want to take all the credit for every kind of music solely for themselves, rather than being co-creators as human beings. Everyone has a hand in sculpting and creating musical trends, whether it be country, rock, rap, or metal. Ice-T has a metal band. Ice Cube performed with Korn. Merle Haggard mixed jazz and ragtime in his country tunes. Jimmie Rodgers did as well, before Robert Johnson became the face of the blues. Country and blues are the benchmarks of all music that came after it. Its roots come from waltz music. From Wagner to Vivaldi to back and Beethoven, all music we enjoy now owes its roots to waltz. However, every performer has their own flavor, and there is no doubt that African Americans have had the most spicy and flavorful sounds the last hundred or so years. The fact that African Americans and so called “white people” can share a stage and enjoy playing music with each other and collaborating proves that we influence each other, and that our culture isn’t black or white. It’s human, and it’s American. No matter our tone, we’re American. Instead of griping about who did what first, let’s recognize that music can have roots all over the world, but the best comes from us, from America. While the country has a very pugnacious and despicable past, we’ve risen above it by seeking out each others music. Rap is huge, and has been over 30 years. R&B is still huge over 60 years later. Blues is still loved all over the world, and its creation spawned rock, metal music.
In the comments everyone thinks they have some sort of phd or masters degree in music, the reality is that suffering is in all music, we can all relate to it. Joy is in all music. We benefit from the stories and heritage in spite of the hard times.
It’s a shame that people are always groping about who is “appropriating” whose culture when we all have to share a very small planet for a very short time.
We’re all human beings. Some of us have more talent for making music, many more have the talent for listening and enjoying it, regardless of who records and performs it.
Who cares at this point who invented music? It’s about how it moves you. Does it make you feel good? Are you enjoying it? Do you want to make your own music and make people dance and feel what you want to convey? If so that makes you human. Not any color or creed, it simply makes you a normal emotional human being.
Stop bickering about who invented what. We’re all in this together
Ahhh shut up!!!
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While I can agree with you on certain humanitarian parts of your statement. That doesn't negate origins of music and source material. I am becoming a historian on a lot of things pertaining to my so called African American culture and it leaves me perplexed. 1st historically African American is a misnomer. Black is a misnomer. Majority of us were already here in 1492! Proper terminology describing a Majority of So called blacks/African Americans is American Indians. By way of Documents of Discovery, A large number of historical Documentation, memoirs, treaties, historically accurate books on the America's c.(1500's-1600)(1700-1890's) the American Indians they describe are: "Darkskin Negroes, stout build ,Curly ,wooly and smooth hair! They look like Afrikans but are yet different! "These are from Documents in the library of congress and the National Archives building. So that right there is problem #1. We are ommitted and constantly reclassified away from the truth of who we are, accomplishments,E.T.C. So it is Hard to believe we have done anything. We are written out of History constantly. Re-written as a false subservient people to fit a racist/classist narrative. Our contributions are constantly being taken by whites as their own. To many to name in categories from science, economic, to but not limited to music. We are tired of it for over 400 yrs!. There is so much Information, Documentation ,that is coming out that verifies we have been lied to purposefully to give others a economic floor. The Music industry no different! Sister Rosetta tharpe for Rock n Roll, which had her roots in county music style that comes from the so called black church. Little Richard the Architect of Rock and Roll. Yes we did not create every style of music. And we are talking about country music. There is a lot of music we did create and country has Major roots in our struggle and way of life as well! There is a lot we did.... we are beyond tired of not getting credit for, paid for , said music. We Are the Only group this happens to in this country! We just want to be Acknowledged for our contributions . Not have them stolen with false origin stories!
Love this post. It’s so annoying to keep hearing African American, I have nothing against Africans, but like you said we were already here and this government committed paper genocide. We are the copper colored aborigines of America, I believe they brought a few Africans here, but the labeling of African American is also giving our creations, culture and concepts to a different group of people. Much love and respect, our people need to wake up.
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Some one please could have told her to fix her top
In the middle of a 7 minute TED Talk? How would that work -- interrupt me over a button and derail my entire delivery? It's not like I'm naked from the waist up.
….Er……...There was NO Confederate flag in 1841...…...Guess again.
We created everything..
Lmao no
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We invented u in the lab as well, duhhhhh read about Yakub grafting u in patimos mordern Turkey.. Yakub is Jacob in the Bible, enlil, zeus, Jesus and he goes by many names.. Oh yeah we invented u as an experiment and our brother aka satan now called Jacob did that shit..
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Now come again and I will tell u what ingredients we used in your DNA
@@psionicpowers132 lmaooooo
Did you create the light bulb or computers? No you didn’t
Country music is from celtic folk music.
The banjo was a musical instrument from Africa, the guitar came from Spain, the steel pedel guitar came from Germany, the mandolin came from Italy, the fiddle came from Ireland and Scotland and songwriting came from England!
If Africa is the origins of humans, civilization, culture and art then all of those instruments that you listed were built from an African instrument. The Spaniards were conquered by the Moors (African Black people). For 800 years the Moors ruled Spain. Look at the influence of Moorish or African people on Spanish culture. Africans were in India millennia ago as witnessed by the extremely dark skin of Indians.
@@nicholashernandez9804 of course that is part of it. Culture can have strong impact on a group. Just look at American cuisine. There is some European or White cuisine that we all can readily identify like Italian, Greek and German. We don’t think about British, Scottish, French or Irish cuisines. Most American cuisine is a combination of varying cultures. Black American culture has permeated every aspect of American culture from art, music, food, protest,extended family, and mental and emotional resilience, etc. White American culture has major impact on other Americans by upholding security via developing weaponry, war tactics, computer technology and sports. Every group impacts another upon contact.
@@nicholashernandez9804 bro you trolling
@@whisper2284 the Moors were Middle Eastern and they were Muslim they enslaved black people and then they became Moors much later, a small percentage of Moors for black. The Moors went all over Europe and 95% of them wasn't Black.
@@HeathsHobbyLobby You’re incorrect. The Moors were referred to as “Black-a-moors for the color of their skin. The Moors originated as East and Northern Africans. Even Shakespeare wrote Othello describing the Moor as a Dark skinned man or Blackamoor. The Moor’s technology and advanced culture originated from their Eastern and Northern African origins. At the end of the day, Moors were of African descent. The Moors Intermarried and mixed with the cultures they conquered. They ruled Spain for 800 years and completely influenced and developed the country. Anyway that you slice it the Moors were considered of African descent with dark skin.
Le rythme appartient au monde entier, l'arythmie entre autres
Blk ppl created every form of popular American music.
Unfortunately no. They created and influenced nothing. Whites created every population genre made every instrument in jazz rock n roll country etc. cope. Even the banjo which may be based of the African gord and stick with 2 strings was made by whits
Now that's funny!
😅 please, that is like claiming that white people invented early jazz because we invented the horns the trumpet that King Oliver and Louis Armstrong played, the trombone, the saxophone the Piccolo, the tuba… white people invented classical instrumentation which was modified to be able to play early jazz so I guess that means according to her logic whites invented jazz and invented big band music because of course, every instrument on there was invented by a white person… piano et all…and whites invented rock roll because electricity was invented by white people as was guitars, electric basses, microphones, and Beatle haircuts… all joking aside😂 all you have to do is listen to Irish music, early Irish traditional music and you’ll hear where the Appalachian music sound came from the lyrics, the stanzas, etc. of early country music… does everything have to be about race…. “can’t we all just get along“… “The only way to stop obsessing about race is to stop talking about it”… Morgan Freeman……..and lastly…”There are only 2 races, the decent and the indecent” Viktor Frankl….nuff said😏…just be decent and be done with it.
Mozart and Bach were also influenced by African music. White people haven't acknowledged that yet.
Do explain. Tell me how Africans influenced the fugue. :)
@@AlexP-jz9sg I will say that Classical music has also had influence from African American music (African based), Dvorak being one person. Others being: Ravel, Shostakovich, Gershwin, Bernstein and others.
@@AlexP-jz9sg I'm just going to leave this right here for anyone else that would like to read it.
The Influence of African Musicians On Classical Music: "Although close to Queen Marie Antoinette, Saint-Georges was refused the prestigious post of director of the Paris Opéra, for which he was considered in 1775, because two of the company’s leading sopranos objected and successfully petitioned the Queen against his appointment on the ground of his race. Even so, he was a major star in Paris in the 1770s, nicknamed “Le Mozart Noir” on concert posters, often sharing equal billing with Mozart.The later part of Saint-Georges’ life was disrupted by the French Revolution. Although he had been active in campaigning against slavery and sympathised with the democratic aims of the revolution, his aristocratic background meant he was not trusted.
Commemorative editions of his music were published, but within a short time, new restrictions on blacks came into force across France and its empire. Slavery had been abolished in 1794, but was re-imposed by Napoleon Bonaparte. Under Bonaparte’s regime, Saint-George and his music were removed from orchestra repertoires, wiping him from the history books for nearly 200 years."
www.music-workshop.co.uk/resources/blog/the-influence-of-african-musicians-on-classical-music/#:~:text=Modern%20classical%20music%20has%20been%20more%20influenced%20by,only%20room%20on%20stage%20for%20a%20grand%20piano.
@@QueenEsther He was a black man writing white European music. Some of Chevalier's compositions survive today. They're not on the level of Mozart.
That's a total lie. There's really nothing on this planet you won't try to steal. The European classical tradition evolved in Europe. Nothing like it existed in Africa.
Something fishy about this
No truth just hurts😁
@@carbinfootprint159 It's the the truth when she's only telling half the story lol...bluegrass began way before blacks were prominent in the Appalachian mountains....Irish and Scottish people in the mountains created bluegrass and Africans added to it
@Black American Could it have been proto-bluegrass?
Black American country music came from Celtic and African genres
It's not it's truth .
Who cares?
You obviously.
I never seen any Africans playing a banjo on National Geographic.
That's why you shouldn't info you get from the media. Do your own research and you will find the truth!
@@cappriment the problem is .. he DID HIS OWN research. It apparently has gotten him nowhere… so instead of doing YOUR RESEARCH.. that benefits YOUR agenda/narrative..
And study ACTUAL RESEARCHING of material of facts that YOU WILL CHOOSE to ignore bc YOU disagree.