Thank you very much for your work. This is very important for me and for lots of people I'm sure. A unique and vital source of Vivaldi content! Beautiful scans. The violin ornamentation in the second movement is marvellous by the way!
Si, ma come fanno gli Istromenti a dialogare allegramente alla velocità della luce...mi chiedo? Perché non avviene appunto con Mozart...? Sono due domande che mi faccio spesso e..😮😊!
Ci si potrebbe anche in ventare nelle esecuzioni di tanti "Temi musicali" vivaldini una "Tempistica trattenuta? La sento e sogno immaginativamente come a riempire un vuoto inesplorato..come in questo concerto con molti" Istromenti" Mi riferisco in particolare all'Allegro iniziale, attraverso il quale vorrei immergermi nel 1700, ed esservi contemporaneo ed ascoltare la musica di Vivaldi... magari seduto in una carrozza traballante, tirata da cavalli di buona razza, docili e attenti agli ordini del Vetturino, ma meno docili al "Direttore d'orchestra" nel nostro contemplato "Caso musicale" In astronomia si fa accenno alla velocità della Luce per misurare la distanza nel tempo...ecc ecc ❤😊!
Well that sentence is kinda true since it doesn't have quite the changes like for example the sonatas from classical period. In baroque music it has one "affect" as they called it per mvt. At least generally.
Rastrography. Talbot states that the paper type is the same as the manuscripts of "Le Quattro Stagioni" in Manchester, and that those are dateable to c.1726. The Manchester collection went to Cardinal Ottoboni in 1726 when he visited Venice. Or so it is believed. There may be other evidence of which I am not aware.
Yo tengo entendido que existen dos versiones, una con trompetas y otra sin trompetas en el último movimiento, no se si por idea del propio Vivaldi 🤷🏻♂️
In fact there is uncertainty as to whether "Trombe" in the score means trumpets or "Violini in tromba marina" or something else. Because the "Trombe" parts go beyond the register of a natural trumpet.
@@DelVivaldi It's strange. First time I've seen this score and I've not combed through it, plus my baroque trumpet knowledge is lacking. So I'm not sure where they are out of normal range. Generally, the parts follow writing for trumpets or like wind instruments, such as horns, oboes or clarinets in trumpet style more that Vivaldi's 'Violin in in tromba marina' parts. Those are more violin leaning idiom, and usually include double stopping. The long trill to open the 3rd mvt is typical of horns, oboes or trumpets more than Violins in Tromba Marina, in Vivaldi's hands. Vivaldi very rarely had instruments appear only in 1 outer mvt of a concerto. It happens in some of the F major 'molto instrument' concerti with a cello in the 3rd. But the cello would always be there and simply step out for a solo. Hard to know what Vivaldi would be more likely to include for only one mvt, the Violins in tromba or actual trumpets (of something else imitating trumpets?). Aesthetically, it seems more effective to withhold the trumpets, as apposed to fairly spare 'violin in tromba' writing, until the final mvt. Not sure what Talbot's most recent opinion on the topic is.
One of my favorite Vivaldi's concertos, two harpsichords, my goodness!
Es un concierto absolutamente maravilloso, es como un resplandeciente y perfecto jardín en la plenitud de su barroco florecer.
Amazing! I also really like these harpsichords-how elegant!
MARAVILHOSO; os instrumentos parecem conversar entre si, em fraterno diálogo! GRATA.
Thank you very much for your work. This is very important for me and for lots of people I'm sure. A unique and vital source of Vivaldi content! Beautiful scans.
The violin ornamentation in the second movement is marvellous by the way!
VIVALDI, e non Mozart è.il primo compositore che fa dialogare gli strumenti fra di loro!
Si, ma come fanno gli Istromenti a dialogare allegramente alla velocità della luce...mi chiedo? Perché non avviene appunto con Mozart...? Sono due domande che mi faccio spesso e..😮😊!
Thanks, Del Vivaldi! This is the BEST C major piece ever!
What about the Vivaldi’s RV 558 in C?
LOL
Ci si potrebbe anche in ventare nelle esecuzioni di tanti "Temi musicali" vivaldini una "Tempistica trattenuta? La sento e sogno immaginativamente come a riempire un vuoto inesplorato..come in questo concerto con molti" Istromenti" Mi riferisco in particolare all'Allegro iniziale, attraverso il quale vorrei immergermi nel 1700, ed esservi contemporaneo ed ascoltare la musica di Vivaldi... magari seduto in una carrozza traballante, tirata da cavalli di buona razza, docili e attenti agli ordini del Vetturino, ma meno docili al "Direttore d'orchestra" nel nostro contemplato "Caso musicale" In astronomia si fa accenno alla velocità della Luce per misurare la distanza nel tempo...ecc ecc ❤😊!
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"Baroque music music only have one feeling per movement"
Absolutely not, I hear all kinds of emotions in this piece
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Well that sentence is kinda true since it doesn't have quite the changes like for example the sonatas from classical period. In baroque music it has one "affect" as they called it per mvt. At least generally.
Such a varied sound in one concerto! Its incredible! Vivaldi was SUCH a madman in the best way :)
Major music, fun music
Thank you very much @Del Vivaldi for this wonderful upload. May I ask what is the basis for the 1726 as composition date?
Rastrography. Talbot states that the paper type is the same as the manuscripts of "Le Quattro Stagioni" in Manchester, and that those are dateable to c.1726. The Manchester collection went to Cardinal Ottoboni in 1726 when he visited Venice. Or so it is believed. There may be other evidence of which I am not aware.
English viola = viol da gamba :D
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Yo tengo entendido que existen dos versiones, una con trompetas y otra sin trompetas en el último movimiento, no se si por idea del propio Vivaldi 🤷🏻♂️
In fact there is uncertainty as to whether "Trombe" in the score means trumpets or "Violini in tromba marina" or something else. Because the "Trombe" parts go beyond the register of a natural trumpet.
@@DelVivaldi It's strange. First time I've seen this score and I've not combed through it, plus my baroque trumpet knowledge is lacking. So I'm not sure where they are out of normal range.
Generally, the parts follow writing for trumpets or like wind instruments, such as horns, oboes or clarinets in trumpet style more that Vivaldi's 'Violin in in tromba marina' parts. Those are more violin leaning idiom, and usually include double stopping. The long trill to open the 3rd mvt is typical of horns, oboes or trumpets more than Violins in Tromba Marina, in Vivaldi's hands. Vivaldi very rarely had instruments appear only in 1 outer mvt of a concerto. It happens in some of the F major 'molto instrument' concerti with a cello in the 3rd. But the cello would always be there and simply step out for a solo. Hard to know what Vivaldi would be more likely to include for only one mvt, the Violins in tromba or actual trumpets (of something else imitating trumpets?). Aesthetically, it seems more effective to withhold the trumpets, as apposed to fairly spare 'violin in tromba' writing, until the final mvt. Not sure what Talbot's most recent opinion on the topic is.
el típico colorido tímbrico de Vivaldi.