ion even blame humzh that much with this one i also lost track abt 40m~ into the debate ngl p/s: there are now more comments than likes on this video. it might be ggs o7
be it christianity or islam or whatever you're following a fairy tail made by sub 50 iq people to control the 35 iq population imo , we could all collectively come together as humanity and say harry potter is based on a true story , it's the same thing . thoughts ?
humzh's right but my god, listening to him try to articulate himself, i could feel my IQ going down like DING DING DING-DING, like a Yu-Gi-Oh health bar
@@iab3569 looking at things logically, it’s better to follow a religion for your whole life and have the chance to go to heaven (or whatever), than to be athiest and go to hell IF religions are false
releigion aside, humzhs argument about not knowing anything is completetly regarded. just beacuase he doesnt know shit about anything doesnt mean no-one else does. did he forget science exists
Well the problem with most religious types is logically its more of a form of brainwashing/ignorance and a lack of higher education theres a reason most well read/philosopher types dont believe in a religious god it makes no logical sense and has 2 many contradictions
@@SalihBabey it's true you can search the verses in google that talks about how the fetus is formed for example, or pangea (how continents got separated), or the number of planets. There were muslim scholars that invented something we have now, flying for example (abbas bin firnas), or surgical instruments (al-zahrawis), or the camera obscura (ibn al haytham )
@@hobonruh also the fact that the book is better then ur own knowledge as a human because its the words of god… the book was written by human too bro cmon thats so obvious
@@levarestudio doesn’t have to be abrahamic god, but if you don’t believe and follow a Dharmic path you ain’t escaping the cycle of Samsara and attaining Nirvana etc etc. same shit, there’s always a punishment of some sort
people believing in religion an shit like jesus getting reborn walking on water splitting fish n shit but when i say dragons and lepicons are real they laugh at me
myths and religions are very similar but very different lol, you will be looked at like one of the bigfoot people. thats a good way to make you understand lol
Spear shot tried to explain the infinite regression through consciousness which made it confusing, its a simple argument that goes like this; looking at the universe logically from a scientific and modern standpoint, we know that something must have created the universe, whether it be the big bang or whatever, then something created that, then something created that, and so on.... If you argue there was no god, or no first "action", this would carry on infinitely. But logically it cannot, because the first action would never be made, it'd regress infinitely. Which is why logically there HAS to be a first action, and it has to be eternal, it was there before nothingness was even a concept and was already there when everything started, which would be outside what we can fathom. This is what is referred to as god in Islam.
What spear is trying to say is that siance answer HOW like how the universe was born like the bigbang things.. but siance never answer WHY. We know how we are here but not why so this is religion role. And if someone of yall want to learn more about God. Check ibnsina's argument it's so good he is a Muslim philosopher..
u think gambling drinking alcohol and commiting adultery is the pinnacle of freedom and if a book is limiting you from doing that then ur getting opressed 😂,then why dont you look at your own book of law you are paying 35% of your income to someone to stay out of jail...
One book is 100% flawed but still has actual uses to society, the other book is a fairy tail used to con people massive difference also that fairy tail book is very well known for oppressing huge quantities of people through slaughter and torture
The companions of prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said that if the prohibition of alcohol was sent down as soon as they became Muslim, they would have never became Muslim. God knew that, hence why he prohibited it years later. Eating pork doesn't make you a non-Muslim, even the prophets companions had to take their time with implementing Islam. My point is if you're considering Islam, only worry about the belief first and not the practices.
Pork argument is dumb… only reason people didn’t used to eat pork is we didn’t have refrigerators or freezers… and people liked to eat very very red meat prior to where we are now probably cooking and bringing meat to the right temp 😂
Pig is gross and eats poop (not true) cats consume the dirt grime and fecal matter off their body with their tongue (mega clean super healthy not gross) humz for ya
the reason pork is even haram is bc back then they didnt fully understand , digestion is a CONVERTING process that they didnt comprehend back then, the nasty shit they eat , the good parts are put back into the pig, and the shitty parts are shit back out, but since they made it haram way back before that was understood it kinda became one of the "bad" things, even tho yes all the other haram stuff is just straight up bad for you/ your head
religion was originally created to enforce community. since hammurabi shit. it was an easier way to have people live decently, religious people back then wouldnt steal from eachother, cause harm etc etc, but since it encompassed so many people there were a few intellectuals who had the forethough of there being ages before them, and questioning how those times occured, if they were never there to see it, which then melded into having godly figures becomming the reason for things. but the continued basis across all religions was to "be a decent human" islam being one that was not just being decent in a community/to those around you, but to be decent to yourself and not jeopardize personal being for short term enjoyment. kinda why its my favorite of the religions as an atheist, besides the women stuff which i genuinely do not care about, kinda helps the horndog nature of guys toned down.
Muslims disagree, we can prove the existence of God through logic. Since we can prove that God exists, we then claim that we must obey God's commands because he is all-knowing and we are not.
@@agp4580 theres a difference between assuming something through logic and proving something, proving requires irrefutable evidence that can be seen by an outside viewer, someone might not believe in gravity existing because they cant see gravity, but you can toss something and make it fall, or go to another planet and watch it fall faster or slower (in a few more decades) everyones life is based on proved or assumed scenarios, majority proven, you can prove his existance through assumed logic, not provable logic, works the same with every religion, and every religion has their own versions of assumed logical "truths" that can be explained by a being good way to look at it (esp as a humzh viewer) is to use a reverse racists lens, a good portion of african americans believe the country/institutions are against them but cant physically prove it a single time, there are assumable "truths" like the police stuff, or being treated poorly by others, but that was years ago and in modern day its more explained by the fact humans are never 100% friendly, and there is a larger portion of certain groups that tend to be hostile or outwardly negative to others, which makes the other groups more apprehensive to them and less likely to give them trust until proven they arent from one of the bad subgroups of those people , shorter example is go to a ghetto then go 20 minutes away from the ghetto, youll have very similar race demographics but a much lower concentration of the negatives from those groups, same with trailer parks and shit like that
@@N2ptunei mean, we know god in a sense didn't create humans since we come from a morbillion year lineage of evolution, but we don't know what created the universe, the most accepted theory, the big bang, says that matter in the void of non creation gathered and then explode, but as far as we know the void contains nothing, that's why we call it the void, but matter appeared out of nowhere, and as far as I know the void by itself can't create nothing (that's why a black hole needs to suck matter in to implode in a supernova) so who put the matter in, you can either say the void created the matter (and by saying that you are just believing in faith as much as the religious folk) or god truly exist and he was the creator of the universe, there exists other theories like an ancient race created our universe and then dipped but personally I find this one restared
Pork is haram because it eats anything... "Pigs are omnivores and are typically not picky about their food. They will eat pretty much anything they find in front of them, including meat. But just because they will eat meat doesn't necessarily mean it's the best thing for them to consume" ... And it is known in islam that it is haram to consume carnivores ... + Pigs also don't sweat at all ... "The hot days of summer can be a drag, especially for pigs because they do not have functional sweat glands. This means that they feel the heat just like we do, only they can't sweat it off! This inability to cool themselves can very quickly lead to heat stress." So all the bacteria in the sweat stays in the meat
@@reddd76-g9f Pig meat is harder to clean because of their feed iirc, its more similar to humans and pigs tend to pick up more diseases iirc but aside from that, Pig is haram because as the comment above said, Allah made it haram and its not our place to question it, there are wisdoms to it, some we might know and some we might know but above all else, it's haram because it was said so and that's that.
ion even blame humzh that much with this one i also lost track abt 40m~ into the debate ngl
p/s: there are now more comments than likes on this video. it might be ggs o7
one hour of religion debating, yeah the comments are not gonna get racist for sure 🔥
be it christianity or islam or whatever you're following a fairy tail made by sub 50 iq people to control the 35 iq population imo , we could all collectively come together as humanity and say harry potter is based on a true story , it's the same thing . thoughts ?
religion and race are not related
@@NomTheDom you are one to speak bro
Racist against whom? Muslims? They aren't a race
@NomTheDom true both the blacks and the westerners can be muslim
humzh's right but my god, listening to him try to articulate himself, i could feel my IQ going down like DING DING DING-DING, like a Yu-Gi-Oh health bar
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I felt like a 2hp Pokémon weee wooo weee wooooo weee woooo
how exactly is humzh right tho
@@iab3569 looking at things logically, it’s better to follow a religion for your whole life and have the chance to go to heaven (or whatever), than to be athiest and go to hell IF religions are false
@@Rootzi logically it would make sense not to believe in things that make no sense scientifically and were invented by schizos thousands of years ago
Yasin gotta be the dumbest dude in that call and Humzh is in it
humzh just being spearshot’s adlib the whole time 😭
2:26 "i hate ignorant people" - humzh
watching 3 dudes who have basically no clue about anything related to theology and religion argue will never not be funny
if i speak im in big trouble
releigion aside, humzhs argument about not knowing anything is completetly regarded. just beacuase he doesnt know shit about anything doesnt mean no-one else does. did he forget science exists
Well the problem with most religious types is logically its more of a form of brainwashing/ignorance and a lack of higher education theres a reason most well read/philosopher types dont believe in a religious god it makes no logical sense and has 2 many contradictions
science existed because quran existed
@@mrbard8827 Stop the cap xd
@@SalihBabey it's true you can search the verses in google that talks about how the fetus is formed for example, or pangea (how continents got separated), or the number of planets. There were muslim scholars that invented something we have now, flying for example (abbas bin firnas), or surgical instruments (al-zahrawis), or the camera obscura (ibn al haytham )
@@hobonruh also the fact that the book is better then ur own knowledge as a human because its the words of god… the book was written by human too bro cmon thats so obvious
Me when I choose the wrong religion over the 100 available and end up in hell: 🤯
He literally said ibrahamic religions
Lazy argument, how many religions actually claim they're from God, and that if you don't follow them you'll end up in hell?
@@lolrinz and those Ibrahimic religions claim that if you follow a different god you'd be sent to hell
@@levarestudio doesn’t have to be abrahamic god, but if you don’t believe and follow a Dharmic path you ain’t escaping the cycle of Samsara and attaining Nirvana etc etc. same shit, there’s always a punishment of some sort
@@mdrago2098 so investigate them, the truth stands out clearly from falsehood.
people believing in religion an shit like jesus getting reborn walking on water splitting fish n shit but when i say dragons and lepicons are real they laugh at me
Technically speaking we know Jesus was real, if he did all the magics the new testament says about him is still unknown territory
on point 😂
myths and religions are very similar but very different lol, you will be looked at like one of the bigfoot people. thats a good way to make you understand lol
The "humans dont know anything" argument made sense 700 years ago
It has never been nothing; it’s just so minimal that it's almost nothing.
@@molantic1327 yeah but my point is that now we have the technology to prove some of the "facts" from the religious books wrong
@@N2ptune what facts?
@@dementedmanatee1298 the bible says the world is 6000 years old for example
you cant be saying humans know much, there is lot of things science cant explain plus science is basically observation it cant explain any further
one of ur best videos fam
Man the amount of inaccuracies said in this video is crazy
humzh debating about religion this gonna be crazy
Humzh rlly gotta study more on these topics bruh 😭 it was painful listening to him try to explain
Spear shot tried to explain the infinite regression through consciousness which made it confusing, its a simple argument that goes like this; looking at the universe logically from a scientific and modern standpoint, we know that something must have created the universe, whether it be the big bang or whatever, then something created that, then something created that, and so on.... If you argue there was no god, or no first "action", this would carry on infinitely. But logically it cannot, because the first action would never be made, it'd regress infinitely. Which is why logically there HAS to be a first action, and it has to be eternal, it was there before nothingness was even a concept and was already there when everything started, which would be outside what we can fathom. This is what is referred to as god in Islam.
League streamers speaking about anything other than video games 💀
chicken legit eats its own shit too, pigs are smart af, people just mistreat them and keep them in bad conditions and then say they are dirty
What spear is trying to say is that siance answer HOW like how the universe was born like the bigbang things.. but siance never answer WHY.
We know how we are here but not why so this is religion role. And if someone of yall want to learn more about God. Check ibnsina's argument it's so good he is a Muslim philosopher..
spearshot big brain
humzh cheerleader
Does humzh know the historical reason on why pork was probably outlawed and not chicken? Both meats are equally as deadly if the animal is misstreated
pork tastes like human meat .
@@musashi542 u speak from experience?
@@musashi542 how u know
@@musashi542 how do you know lmao
@@musashi542you better explain yourself buddy
by humzh's logic of humans not knowing better then being agnostic is the best bet
Or gnosticism, per Pascal's wager.
Na education is quite something...
Listening to that actually made me dumber, thank you
wtf is a wormhole 🤣
Humzh: "Do your research" 🗣🗣🗣
who is we humzh
humzha saying jins jins is type of demons in islam that live in this world and there is good once called jins and bad once called devils
who tf is yassin
brb ordering a double pepperoni pizza before i watch
if anyone wants to discuss religion, feel free (I'm a Muslim)
i watched 2 minutes of this and my brain is eroding
bro humzh needs to learn more about his religion and how to speak with atheist and that stuff he was struggling to explain what hes talking about
I love this kind of video. Keep it up, brother. 💪
12:15 bruh was cooking🔥🔥🔥 absolutely nothing🤣
he is legitimately on the spectrum... I'm starting to feel bad when I laugh
My father and uncle after the 17th shot of vodka:
u think gambling drinking alcohol and commiting adultery is the pinnacle of freedom and if a book is limiting you from doing that then ur getting opressed 😂,then why dont you look at your own book of law you are paying 35% of your income to someone to stay out of jail...
One book is 100% flawed but still has actual uses to society, the other book is a fairy tail used to con people massive difference also that fairy tail book is very well known for oppressing huge quantities of people through slaughter and torture
just play your league bro
Im one minute in and cant listen anymore.
idc what the animal eats because I know heat = no bacteria, this boy not educated
Okaaay mrhumzhraw with the 500 ads in a vid cheeeers 🇮🇱
I don't understand why eating pigs is haram cows and chickens are just as dirty so there has to be a different reason surely
so muslims are scared of jhin from league I cant joke religion
If everything bad for you is haram then why isn t lol haram?
it is, if you play it for long periods of time to the point that you cannot meet your religious obligations.
We are living in the Matrix
your amumu supp is god awful
Islam is amazing but ong I could never not eat pork
The companions of prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said that if the prohibition of alcohol was sent down as soon as they became Muslim, they would have never became Muslim. God knew that, hence why he prohibited it years later.
Eating pork doesn't make you a non-Muslim, even the prophets companions had to take their time with implementing Islam.
My point is if you're considering Islam, only worry about the belief first and not the practices.
The Humzh brainrot 🙏
keep ur opinions video game related pls bro
please prove me god exist PLEASE xdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxd slow mfs
By normal logic , there has to be a starting eternal point that created everything that exists now
Also there is a study done by oxford athiest researchers found that kids with no outer influence believe in higher power
@@abdelfatahalhusini7692yea but religious people think whatever book they believe in appeared at that moment with all the answers within lmao
avicenna proof of god, or how pulsar stars were mentioned in the quran at a time were it was impossible to discover.
@@Volterr logical fallacy ad ignorantiam
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Pork argument is dumb… only reason people didn’t used to eat pork is we didn’t have refrigerators or freezers… and people liked to eat very very red meat prior to where we are now probably cooking and bringing meat to the right temp 😂
Pig is gross and eats poop (not true) cats consume the dirt grime and fecal matter off their body with their tongue (mega clean super healthy not gross) humz for ya
@@werwefsefsefsef we don't eat cats bro lmao
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the reason pork is even haram is bc back then they didnt fully understand , digestion is a CONVERTING process that they didnt comprehend back then, the nasty shit they eat , the good parts are put back into the pig, and the shitty parts are shit back out, but since they made it haram way back before that was understood it kinda became one of the "bad" things, even tho yes all the other haram stuff is just straight up bad for you/ your head
religion was originally created to enforce community. since hammurabi shit. it was an easier way to have people live decently, religious people back then wouldnt steal from eachother, cause harm etc etc, but since it encompassed so many people there were a few intellectuals who had the forethough of there being ages before them, and questioning how those times occured, if they were never there to see it, which then melded into having godly figures becomming the reason for things. but the continued basis across all religions was to "be a decent human" islam being one that was not just being decent in a community/to those around you, but to be decent to yourself and not jeopardize personal being for short term enjoyment. kinda why its my favorite of the religions as an atheist, besides the women stuff which i genuinely do not care about, kinda helps the horndog nature of guys toned down.
Muslims disagree, we can prove the existence of God through logic.
Since we can prove that God exists, we then claim that we must obey God's commands because he is all-knowing and we are not.
@@agp4580 theres a difference between assuming something through logic and proving something, proving requires irrefutable evidence that can be seen by an outside viewer, someone might not believe in gravity existing because they cant see gravity, but you can toss something and make it fall, or go to another planet and watch it fall faster or slower (in a few more decades) everyones life is based on proved or assumed scenarios, majority proven, you can prove his existance through assumed logic, not provable logic, works the same with every religion, and every religion has their own versions of assumed logical "truths" that can be explained by a being
good way to look at it (esp as a humzh viewer) is to use a reverse racists lens, a good portion of african americans believe the country/institutions are against them but cant physically prove it a single time, there are assumable "truths" like the police stuff, or being treated poorly by others, but that was years ago and in modern day its more explained by the fact humans are never 100% friendly, and there is a larger portion of certain groups that tend to be hostile or outwardly negative to others, which makes the other groups more apprehensive to them and less likely to give them trust until proven they arent from one of the bad subgroups of those people , shorter example is go to a ghetto then go 20 minutes away from the ghetto, youll have very similar race demographics but a much lower concentration of the negatives from those groups, same with trailer parks and shit like that
God gave us brain. Man made book.
God gave us a brain, God sent us guidance in the form of a book
and we can prove it
If you read it you will change your mind . But you are hardstuck lmao keep yapping
@@agp4580u think god wrote the book?😂😂😂
can you prove god actually gave us our brain?
@@N2ptunei mean, we know god in a sense didn't create humans since we come from a morbillion year lineage of evolution, but we don't know what created the universe, the most accepted theory, the big bang, says that matter in the void of non creation gathered and then explode, but as far as we know the void contains nothing, that's why we call it the void, but matter appeared out of nowhere, and as far as I know the void by itself can't create nothing (that's why a black hole needs to suck matter in to implode in a supernova) so who put the matter in, you can either say the void created the matter (and by saying that you are just believing in faith as much as the religious folk) or god truly exist and he was the creator of the universe, there exists other theories like an ancient race created our universe and then dipped but personally I find this one restared
Pork is haram because it eats anything... "Pigs are omnivores and are typically not picky about their food. They will eat pretty much anything they find in front of them, including meat. But just because they will eat meat doesn't necessarily mean it's the best thing for them to consume" ... And it is known in islam that it is haram to consume carnivores ... + Pigs also don't sweat at all ... "The hot days of summer can be a drag, especially for pigs because they do not have functional sweat glands. This means that they feel the heat just like we do, only they can't sweat it off! This inability to cool themselves can very quickly lead to heat stress." So all the bacteria in the sweat stays in the meat
doesnt bacteria die when u cook the meat
@@tabletennisstars1227 shhh dont tell em
pork is haram because Allah made it haram not because it eats anything.
@@reddd76-g9f Pig meat is harder to clean because of their feed iirc, its more similar to humans and pigs tend to pick up more diseases iirc but aside from that, Pig is haram because as the comment above said, Allah made it haram and its not our place to question it, there are wisdoms to it, some we might know and some we might know but above all else, it's haram because it was said so and that's that.
@@UnknownServant why
spear cooking tho