The Citadel Anasazi Ruins - The Fortress in the Sky

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  • Hi,
    I'm The Off-Road Adventure Dude aka TOAD Moto. I used to ride a KLR and now I ride a GPX Moto FSE 250e.
    In this video, I hike up one of my favorite hikes I've ever done called the Citadel Ruins.
    Citadel Ruins is a 6.4 mile moderately trafficked out and back trail located near Mexican Hat, Utah that offers scenic views and is rated as moderate. The trail is primarily used for hiking, walking, nature trips, and bird watching and is best used from March until September.
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  • @ageingungracefullypushingt7135
    @ageingungracefullypushingt7135 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I have been there a number of times. One variable that has consistently presented itself is that there is no water, anywhere, reasonably nearby. It is possible that there might have been springs at one time, but at the time the Anasazi abandoned the area there had been a prolonged, decades long drought, so a spring is unlikely. Point I am making is that, in a siege situation, the lack of available water becomes a defense defeating liability. Maybe they could store enough for a few days, maybe a week, but after that, once the water has run out, you have lost the siege. Your video does a wonderful job of showing how dry the area is. Which brings me to point two, if you hike there make sure you are carrying enough water. The sun is relentless.

    • @atomicsmith
      @atomicsmith ปีที่แล้ว +4

      One thing I realized when visiting Chaco canyon and Mesa verde recently was that kivas are actually very sophisticated water tanks. The whole of mesa verde is dedicated to rain water collection. I would imagine this had a similar system. Also I don’t believe the citadel or mesa verde housed a lot of people. I think they had a greater strategic importance.

    • @ageingungracefullypushingt7135
      @ageingungracefullypushingt7135 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@atomicsmith Adam, there are no indications that the ruins in Cedar Mesa were used as cisterns. It is believed that if the water was some distance away they used their clay pots/jars to hold water/bladder bags as best they could for storage. Also, in Cedar Mesa, there is some evidence that the Anasazi made small dams along the intermittent runoff streams as well as below some low flowing streams that were replenished by snowmelt and thunderstorms. (At least that is what I was told.) They also made use of the potholes found around the area to hold water. I agree that the Citadel, year-round, did not house many people. My thinking is that it was a defensive stronghold for clans in the area. All indications are that as the drought prolonged and springs and watercourses diminished or dried up as well as the possibility of incursion from the warlike populations of northern Mexico, life became increasingly hostile. Those two defensive walls on the "plateau" near the neck are an indication of perceived threat and needed resistance fortifications. Also, cliff dwelling is not the safest place to raise children. Indications are that the Anasazi only took up cliff dwelling in the very latter part of their occupation. BTW isn't that area an incredible place to hike?

    • @terriniemeier6578
      @terriniemeier6578 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I think the grandeur of history is incredible we don't know what water was there but at one time Colorado was an ocean so it's hard to say you'd have to go there dig deep or actually dig up and see what particles and molecules are left in the dirt to tell you exactly what the area look like I personally think it's as cool as dinosaur bones found it snow Mass Colorado you know I can't imagine our country having camels on it sloths that were bigger than bears but it happened

    • @boossersgarage3239
      @boossersgarage3239 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      cisterns, he walked past lots of potholes with water in them, I bet there is a cistern inside somewhere, and top of the rock has several large depressions that could collect rainwater.

    • @davidboast9165
      @davidboast9165 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@atomicsmith the pyramids were just fog and dew collectors, gathering water out the cold night dessert air, just like the stepwells in India, the pyramids were a source of fresh water, dew collection and water storage,

  • @jirihamersky6152
    @jirihamersky6152 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely mesmerizing, overwhelming, being on the spot must be a downright sacred experience. Many thanks.

  • @schumannresonanceswithverte
    @schumannresonanceswithverte ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There's another channel on YT who talks about Navajo legend.
    He explains that the Anasazi were slave traders, and make sacrifices to dark entities through this work.
    Those buildings were not made for keeping out their enemies.
    The Anasazi WERE the enemies of most of the tribes in those days.
    The structures were made to keep the people as prisoners, basically.

    • @Toad_Moto
      @Toad_Moto  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I was a noob when I made this video. I've since learned a lot more. The more I learn, the more I feel like I don't know. From both the archeologist and more importantly the Native side.
      Super mysterious.

    • @charlesstepp2083
      @charlesstepp2083 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wally Brown on navaho (Dineh) traditions proposed that understanding

    • @latintrotter
      @latintrotter 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm not sure about that , that was Navajo told but not Hopi, " ancient enemy's for Navajo but " ancestors " for Hopi. If Anasazi was so bad then base on history we do it the same even worse.For example - no more colony and slavery ok , 95% land in Canada its own by British Crown plus another 17 country like Australia , New Zealand, it's make a deferent from Anasazi?

    • @schumannresonanceswithverte
      @schumannresonanceswithverte 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@spookygirl7761 The world speaks to you,
      if you have the patience to listen.
      Was a time when people had the patience to look at these things to see the lessons presented
      That would be the point in its entirety I was making...
      mindfullness to the teachings
      what are the Stone People, the Holy Ones teaching us from this site.
      ......those THICK-THICK walls....
      the mishmash of making-styles
      sure, those walls were secure....
      yet, the rocks came from the sky...
      what is that, if it is what it is?

    • @spookygirl7761
      @spookygirl7761 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@schumannresonanceswithverte lol

  • @jaybrodell1959
    @jaybrodell1959 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We are quick to characterize ancient structures based on our own experiences. There's no place around this pile of rocks where you could grow a single stalk of corn. The same is tru of many Anasazi structures in the Four Corners area. Meanwhile the fertle valleys are full of remains of ancient farms and similar. Were these some kind of pre-contact monastaries?

    • @lifeandliberty0172
      @lifeandliberty0172 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good observation. I've noticed in this and other videos, and the few places like this I've been, there is little soil at all ,much less fertile soil. But perhaps there was some back then?

    • @tedpreston4155
      @tedpreston4155 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At the time this site was built, the area was locked into a prolonged drought. People were dying and others migrating away. The population of the area is falling, food is running out, and the hungry went marauding looking for anything they could steal.
      To defend against these marauders, the farmers moved their homes from the canyon bottoms up into protected alcoves on the canyon walls. they sometimes hid their grain storage sites in even more hidden places on steep cliff sides to protect them from hungry thieves. They were still farming in the canyon bottoms, but living up on the the safer cliff sides after harvest.
      This location at the Citadel is simply magnificent. It is a magical setting for a homesite that had been built to be easily defensible. But this was just home and grain storage at the citadel. They were probably growing the crops in the canyon bottom, where they also carried out religious gatherings. (The Seven Kivas are in the same canyon, a short distance upstream from the Citadel. While it's hard to know how the community in and around Road Canyon worked through time, its likely that the community consisted of a group of farmers who did most of their labor and spent most of their time near the canyon bottom, at the kivas and farming, and living a short distance upstream at the Falling roof ruin location.
      It would be fascinating to know how the societal and seasonal living arrangements worked in the community. Did they retreat to the high ground at the Citadel to guard their crops after harvest? Did they have a particularly speedy route from the Fallen Roof/Seven Kivas on the canyon floor up to the Citadel if the community were attacked?

    • @SaucePussy
      @SaucePussy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It would be a seasonal camp , not a permanent residence

  • @normpaddle
    @normpaddle 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I was there about 1987, there were tons of pottery still laying around, including maybe 1/4 size pots. I'm sure looted in nearly 40 years. Cool to be back there.

    • @michaeltaylor4984
      @michaeltaylor4984 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Was there in 76. Tons of pottery and points. 3 years ago, we returned and it was depressingly sad

  • @rickdunn7585
    @rickdunn7585 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Anyone else notice the huge rock carved like a head at 7:19 minutes it’s definitely a carving if you ask me you can see chisel mark behind where the ear would be

    • @samsmom1491
      @samsmom1491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed it and backed it up and paused the video to look closer at it. It does resemble a human head and another reason this area was important to them.

    • @soulGrafitti
      @soulGrafitti ปีที่แล้ว

      Rocks in that area are sculpted into all sorts of forms. They are soft, sedimentary rock. The marks you see are caused by the layering. You see the same marks in the right part of the frame showing entirely different rocks. The Anasazi didn't make large scale carvings.

    • @standingbear998
      @standingbear998 ปีที่แล้ว

      imagination

    • @randalmorris1772
      @randalmorris1772 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well, it does look like a head. More ape like to me. I don't think this was chiseled. Those so-called "chisel marks" are the same as on the rock to the right. I believe this is just natural. I've seen many a Boulder that looks chiseled/carved, but is not.

  • @thomasdykstra100
    @thomasdykstra100 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Makes you wonder what would have posed a threat significant enough to take these kinds of measures against. Even in the desert, it was "a jungle out there"!

    • @jeannerogers7085
      @jeannerogers7085 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Other people.

    • @peroxideconan7961
      @peroxideconan7961 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      if it was used as a fortress, it would most likely be a threat from other tribes as native tribes warred with each other often.

    • @dickstryker
      @dickstryker ปีที่แล้ว

      ..."most likey"...🥶

    • @jamekrab7341
      @jamekrab7341 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Genocide was common, the green river people were totally wiped out

    • @AstraLuna-o9i
      @AstraLuna-o9i ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Archaeologists believe the fall of the Anasazi empire was during a period of extreme drought, through carbon dating and tree ring data they see that there was a 35 year period where the southwest had little to no rainfall. Warfare and starvation broke out, causing there to be a mass die off and cannibalism. People that wanted to stay in the southwest sought shelter in canyons close to water sources, to try to survive.

  • @Cobbmtngirl
    @Cobbmtngirl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So well preserved. Thanks!

  • @christopherhaak9824
    @christopherhaak9824 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There is not and never was a kiva at this site. There are multiple kiva ruins in the north canyon. Also it is much easier to get down to the shelf at the level of the peninsula on the right hand side of the mesa, not the side you show in the video. To be sure, a higher clearance vehicle is strongly desired, but you can drive to the area in a minivan, don't ask me how I know.

    • @samsmom1491
      @samsmom1491 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I didn't see a kiva either. This looks more like a fortress the people ran to when invaders came. Gives you a lasting impression on how desperate life was at that time.

    • @barbararaynsford7817
      @barbararaynsford7817 ปีที่แล้ว

      To me, it looks just like walnut canyon in Arizona- which is a peninsula type canyon wall dwelling- which protected the inhabitants from hot sun, high wind, and predators.

  • @loganburba7313
    @loganburba7313 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I seen ur post on Insta how nobody follows ur TH-cam just put it out there more this is really really awesome I know there a but load of people who enjoy the same hobbies as us that would enjoy watching.

  • @exploringtheancients7240
    @exploringtheancients7240 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is unbelievable! Amazing place.

  • @matthewmc4363
    @matthewmc4363 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow

  • @scottchase8014
    @scottchase8014 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well keep exploring I like short trips like that too but I moved out east for a while I needed a break for the western United States I found way too much over the last 27 years living out in the field I need a break

  • @helenpatterson3858
    @helenpatterson3858 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Reminds me of Zane Grey's "Riders of the Purple Sage" refuge.

  • @misha4422
    @misha4422 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the video tour. What is the faint “steam engine” sound in my right ear? Distracting.

  • @alanl4104
    @alanl4104 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Any ideas as to what they used as a mortar between the rocks in their construction , as it appears to have held up way better than just mud would have over that amount of time. Thanks great video

    • @larryfine5222
      @larryfine5222 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sand and Ash from fires which was ground to powder and mixed with water.

    • @gregoryeverson741
      @gregoryeverson741 ปีที่แล้ว

      maybe dung and dried grasses also

    • @samsmom1491
      @samsmom1491 ปีที่แล้ว

      Plenty of lava nearby too, which makes any morter stronger when added.

  • @davidkerns5413
    @davidkerns5413 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love these videos.

  • @retiredboss4831
    @retiredboss4831 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What I find amazing that the work these people did to isolate/protect themselves. But from who? A different tribe? Or from the group of people who lived in the dwelling on the other side of the mesa?

    • @fordmodelT1957
      @fordmodelT1957 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Them people were hiding from conspiracy theorists! God bless.

  • @mjade1673
    @mjade1673 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omfg that trail is right on the edge😲😄

  • @Eonwe
    @Eonwe ปีที่แล้ว

    Glorious

  • @sandramorey2529
    @sandramorey2529 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Wow. Thanks for this really lovely hike. I wish I could have seen it when I could still hike. I love the ancient Puelbloan ruins. They built tight structures.

    • @georgesheffield1580
      @georgesheffield1580 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ancient Ute's

    • @bainsworth8853
      @bainsworth8853 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thinking the same thing, and I still have a mountain to climb, One of the best views was it ringed of cloud with only the top in the sunlight. (sorry you would have had to see it yourself), triple rainbos are nice when no one thinks they don't exist

    • @Toad_Moto
      @Toad_Moto  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I can take you to places you don't have to hike to if you want.

  • @janetaysom5245
    @janetaysom5245 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hiked there over 50 years ago when the ruins were in better shape & it was a harder hike. If you have a fear of heights, this may not be the hike for you. Walking across that very narrow isthmus is nerve-wracking. 😨

  • @vondahartsock-oneil3343
    @vondahartsock-oneil3343 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just stumbled upon this, while I'm in my "I gotta see the 4 corners region and the rock art phase etc....Way back in college, my Professor told me that after I graduate. I should go to the 4 corners region, he thinks I would really love it. From what I have seen , I do love it. When you came to those "pools" of water, which were formed from WATER swirling around in them in a time much longer ago. I was wondering IF : you know about the Navajo Swimming Pool?
    It's rock like that, but the hole is bigger, deeper and almost perfectly round. The Anasazi carved out a channel/canal from higher up, in a couple or three diff. spots, that funneled the water to the hole. It was full when I saw it (online from another YT channel) with kids and adults. I'm Native American, card carrying member of two tribes. Yet I've NEVER seen anything like that, that wasn't man made. I'm sure it's gotta be a bit more common, or at least there must be others. It's a long walk up the rock mountain. The pool itself is about halfway up. Then you can follow the carved out by hand, the channels to divert the water to the pool. SO... they beat The Clampets (Ellie Mays) cement pond! lolol.
    Thanks, this is really beautiful. Who knew "unpolished rock" could be so beautiful. Not counting the Grand Canyon. I digress. Thanks for the video. I'm always looking for Anasazi, "Fremont" and old Navajo sites I've never seen before. Well, I've never seen any of them in person. I hope too, one day.
    We did go to Pecos Ntl. Monument in N. NM. Storrie Lake, up forest rd. 65 til it was closed due to being impassible. We parked and just walked to explore the cabins with 8 ft of snow on their roofs, and we were curious as to what's up the hill. Well turns out it wa sa Bat Cave,. It had bars on it, but easily passed thru if you are tiny. BUT THE SMELL of bat guano is horrific.
    We were in a College Bus! Right now tho, and it's horrible of me to think about going to see these places, but my husband is terminally ill. He's at home and I provide 24/7 care, on top of absolutely everything else. I try to take Sundays off, to recoup, eat better, catch up on sleep and of course YT VIDS.
    I hope by the time I am able to go. I can get around to those places. Seems like you have to do a lot of hiking in the heat no less, to find the best ones. I've been hiking and practicing lol. Get back in shape. Again thank you for this lovely and wonderful views, video. It may make my list of places to see and go, or may not. IDK...

  • @aaronfogelsanger2550
    @aaronfogelsanger2550 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd have been some chore to get water up there. Kivas where spiritual places but it looks like a good place to hide from your enemies

  • @nlormanstuckman7408
    @nlormanstuckman7408 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love the rocks the flood is so evident

    • @markmark2080
      @markmark2080 ปีที่แล้ว

      THE flood...??, I agree, see it everywhere...

    • @SchoolforHackers
      @SchoolforHackers 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      But floods make straight paths, while rivers make meanders (eventually).

  • @VoodooCrab
    @VoodooCrab 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I thought it looked more like in was used for food storage rather than a place to live, but I'm no expert. I would like to know more about this ruin, like the condition when it was first discovered and what sort of artifacts were found at the site.

  • @hermyelf
    @hermyelf ปีที่แล้ว

    Solid Video, Thx.

  • @leesenger3094
    @leesenger3094 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome!!!

  • @kathrynhathaway5145
    @kathrynhathaway5145 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome.

  • @teressacooks7928
    @teressacooks7928 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bring some snacks, some water, and a parachute. Oh, he didn't mention a parachute??? Well, be sure to bring one!

  • @scottchase8014
    @scottchase8014 ปีที่แล้ว

    But I'm glad you put the show up you keep going boy

  • @gairmac33
    @gairmac33 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You mentioned a Kiva, but never saw one. Am wondering if there is actually a kiva there or not...

    • @Toad_Moto
      @Toad_Moto  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There wasn't, at least from what I saw. I was mistaken.

  • @justold8348
    @justold8348 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yada Yada blaa , You need to be from that part of the country!!!

  • @beldendemecilio8219
    @beldendemecilio8219 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Solid Video 👌😀 and very interesting 👌👍

  • @Devil-pk2xo
    @Devil-pk2xo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:18 look at that huge bolder it defintiely is was once sculpted into some kind of head or skull

  • @Al-Fiallos
    @Al-Fiallos ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, I had to mute the volume. The constant 'thumping' sound totally distracting from the beauty of the hike.

  • @desert-walker
    @desert-walker 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting never been there

  • @TheAnarchitek
    @TheAnarchitek ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wish you had included directions to the site. I think I found it, but it's hard to tell, because Google Earth flattens features like those found on the "island" (it may well have been one, the waters at the top of the vertical edge that shows a sudden drop in water levels, before the striations of routine erosion begin, lower down. The "wall" may have been a stop-gap to ensure strangers and roving (preying) animals couldn't get out to their sanctuary. If the site was built when the canyons were still full of water, it is one of the older sites still remaining, dating to the time of ancient Greece, Plato and the giants of our culture, thanks entirely to the desert aridity and lack of rain. These people were desperate, but possessed of same kinds of knowledge we notice in other ancient sites. They built of stone, using wood sparingly, and created astronomical devices that hint to greater knowledge and skills than we routinely attribute to them.
    When the people who built the ruins arrived, they were probably looking for shelter from the storms and catastrophes that destroyed whatever civilization had existed previously. The Old North American Craton slammed into a "deformed craton" that had held whatever existed on the Colorado Plateau previously, and raised, in stages over the next half-dozen centuries, the Rockies and the Sierras, and the fault-blocking ranges between, the initial impact pushing upwards of 350 trillion to 500 trillion acre-feet of water across the West in a giant tsunami that wiped out nearly all life forms and severely gouged the landscape with a wonderland of canyons, synclines, basins, folds, and mountains. These quickly eroded into the fantastic shapes of hoodoos, tent rocks, fairy chimneys and canyons, as the water sought an exit, in a world gone mad. It would take two millennia for the water to fully drain away, finally disappearing with the Chaco Culture people, circa 1250 AD.
    This is not the story your father's geologists would have told, but it is the story of the American Southwest, and it is the story of the world, during the period of the near-ancient past, from Noah to Ezekiel, almost two millennia of devastation, destruction and catastrophe, leaving survivors stranded everywhere imaginable, and reshaping the Earth in the process. Our notions of God derive from the period, as do our ideas about cultures, our racism and xenophobia, and the entirety of "western culture". When it was over, some 2,750 years ago, the survivors and their descendants emerged, as in Native American origin myths, into the "glittering world", the "old" ways, and peoples, lost to the myths of time. Who knows what language the ancient Egyptians spoke? We have no records. What happened to the builders of the Pyramids, Baalbek, Skara Brae, the Mayan pyramids and civic monuments, the builders of the "Inca" palaces? Why did people carve out the Ellora, and Ajanta Caves, Puma Punku, Ingapirka, Gobekle Tepe and all the others?
    The Anasazi built "towns" around the perimeter of the "lake" formed by the waters that had been flooded across the Four Corners region. From the Uintah Mountains north of Green River, to the Mogollon Rim, from the San Francisco Peaks, to the Sierra Nacimiento in New Mexico, a 300-mile-diameter lake the Anasazi rebuilt their lives around, starting sometime circa 500BC to 700BC, until the water finally broke through the volcanic plug in the western Grand Canyon-Parashant area, and opened Black Canyon, allowing the waters to drain away to the Gulf of Baja California. The gulf shows the effects of this outflow, a process that would only end in relatively recent times. Chaco was built when water levels were starting to drop, into the arroyos and smaller canyons. It ran out completely circa 1250, after the Anasazi had constructed a 30-mile road, to bring it back to their "town". Once water failed at that location, there was little reason for people to stay, and the last drifted away, to greener pastures. People had started leaving much earlier, in the way of people everywhere, but so much time and effort had been invested, some wanted to stay, in hopes the good old days would return again.
    As the water levels dropped, around the "lake", the Anasazi peoples came out of their clifftop and -side homes, and built new homes at lower levels, but the water began flooding out faster and faster, and eventually, there was no percentage in following it into the depths of the Grand Canyon, and most of the area now under Lake Powell was too steep and difficult to get to, leaving them no alternative but to move eastward. I suspect they became the progenitors of the Kiowa, Comanche, Paiute and Arapaho tribes, more so than the Pueblo people. Not that some couldn't have traveled southeasterly, to invest the Hopi, Navajo and Zuni peoples' pueblos, but the nature of Chaco suggests people who would have struck out into the world, more than those who would have stayed put. The Anasazi were peopled by businessmen, traders and scientists, recovering from cataclysmic events that had radically changed their world.
    ©BW2022
    anarchitek™

    • @Toad_Moto
      @Toad_Moto  ปีที่แล้ว

      The directions here are online. You can pretty much drive any car until the last turn off where I'd recommend a high clearance vehicle.

    • @jamesennis4446
      @jamesennis4446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you for this. It answers a lot of questions I've had.

    • @Cwra1smith
      @Cwra1smith ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ridiculous babble. The river carved out that canyon over millions of years. That sandstone all around will weather but not in a few thousand years.

    • @carsonc4134
      @carsonc4134 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey, thanks for the write up. Got a blog or something?

    • @TheAnarchitek
      @TheAnarchitek ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Cwra1smith
      Glen Canyon is what the Colorado River dug. Period. Just like the Goosenecks, on the San Juan, both in the last 3,500 years. There probably was no such thing as the "Colorado River", at the time of the creation of the Grand Canyon. Instead, a 300-mile-diameter "lake" sat on the Four Corners region, from up in the southern foothills of the Uintah Mountains, in central Utah, to the Mogollon Rim, from the San Francisco Peaks, on the west, to the the water line is still visible. Do you think it will still be there, in a "million years"?

  • @StarDarkAshes
    @StarDarkAshes ปีที่แล้ว

    You didn’t film the inside?

  • @joseywailer7624
    @joseywailer7624 ปีที่แล้ว

    How n the hell did that rock get on top of the boulders at 9 sec.?

    • @mothafuc1incurlytim
      @mothafuc1incurlytim ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it sits where it was created. material underneath it is softer and eroded

  • @ferdrediob4982
    @ferdrediob4982 ปีที่แล้ว

    A complete kiva was in mid reaches of this canyon...in 1976.

  • @stewartthomas2642
    @stewartthomas2642 ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @bainsworth8853
    @bainsworth8853 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, tell me, Why did ancient man need to think he needed that much protection right off the bat, so to say, I'm just thinking, also to say, you would have to know his footstep to see the way down

  • @robwal3665
    @robwal3665 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice spot, bit of a stretch to call it a fortress or a citadel tho. Just looks like someone's house

    • @samsmom1491
      @samsmom1491 ปีที่แล้ว

      The way the access is severely restricted, lack of water or area to grow food, much less gather it is highly suggestive of a refuge when invaders came. Anyone raiding would find the village empty, take what they wanted and move on. This is an excellent place to hide and easy to defend if you have supplies already there for emergencies.

  • @juliearmenta4841
    @juliearmenta4841 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who where the ancient one's protecting themselves from?

    • @Toad_Moto
      @Toad_Moto  ปีที่แล้ว

      The surrounding tribes. Anasazi is Navajo for ancient enemy. They would even fight amongst their own tribes.

  • @bainsworth8853
    @bainsworth8853 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the first ones got there and had to find shelter first thing. water fuel and someplace to get out of the weather, year 1 then I would climb, year 2, next to straight up, there was no place to go. Year 3 would only show a few steps. You see from the beginning we all had to take small steps. Year four, and so the journey begins. Year 5 history repeats itself until we have it down pat. Year 6 thru like the rest of your life and many others. Year whatever and a half, we thrive on the fact we know how to kill each other. Year the next half one after that, You build the wall

  • @davidboast9165
    @davidboast9165 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 7:18 the rock right of the tree has a face on it eyes and nostrils

  • @tomcooley3778
    @tomcooley3778 ปีที่แล้ว

    Snakes ?

  • @JSees
    @JSees ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool place, bad music at the beginning

  • @peroxideconan7961
    @peroxideconan7961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    looks more like grain storage buildings than living buildings.

  • @grottybt5006
    @grottybt5006 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not really a citadel or fortress, not really a castle either. I think "fort" is sufficient

  • @ericharris197
    @ericharris197 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not remote enough to keep you from finding it. We used to keep these places a secret. Now they put up signs. 🤫

  • @nlormanstuckman7408
    @nlormanstuckman7408 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who were they suspiciously eating with

  • @thomaswilliams373
    @thomaswilliams373 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don’t perceive a fortress. I see a place where elite priests lived.

  • @debracadman4212
    @debracadman4212 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your crazy why didn't you leave your dog at home??

    • @Toad_Moto
      @Toad_Moto  ปีที่แล้ว

      Why would I? Mind your own business.

  • @maxelldenomie6131
    @maxelldenomie6131 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a member of the Kiowa Tribe/Nation...my mother told me, it had been told, handed down--long long back, there had been a large people-a nation in themselves--who took other tribeses peoples captive, _hunted them, raided!_ ate them.
    [Before Columbus]
    They become so bold, all other tribes knew...interpeters neede interpeters...alliances made, plans...those human things were rushed! Wiped out...down to their old people and babies...not even their name is remembered...
    None of u know history, none of u...

    • @Toad_Moto
      @Toad_Moto  ปีที่แล้ว

      There's evidence that the Ancestral Puebloans/Anasazi were cannibals and did similar things too.

    • @SchoolforHackers
      @SchoolforHackers 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Toad_Moto Unfortunately, you conflate two radically different peoples. The Anasazi (Aztecs) came north, took slaves, ate people, and after some 250 years the Puebloans and the Navajo teamed up and killed them all. There are no ancestors of the Anasazi.

  • @larryrobertson4099
    @larryrobertson4099 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    FYI: There are no such people in the U.S. that are Native Americans. The people to which you refer occupied these lands 1000s of years before there was America so these can be no Native Americans. The have their own names for themselves like Diné for the Navajo peoples. To be politically at least in their warped mines, they replaced one generalized term for a whole set of different peoples, Indian with another generalized term, Native American. Both were and are unacceptable. These peoples have their own languages, history, and origins.
    So, if you insist on the liberal politically correct name for these people then why stop there. Most of us are Eruopean Americans. There are Spanish Americans, Chinese Americans, and...Or drill down to get more specific. I'm Scottish American and there are English Americans, Irish Americans, French Americans. Where does it stop? Either use their name for themselves or call them what we all are, Americans. Period...

  • @lisambunnell
    @lisambunnell ปีที่แล้ว

    Your habit of leaving the trail to get a better view of the Canyon leads others to want to do the same and that is frowned upon by the Anasazi. It shows a lack of respect for the very thing you’re trying to promote in navigating an area that is warning you it is in poor condition to trek upon.

  • @dickstryker
    @dickstryker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That is one heck of a redoubt. And in a place with almost no sustainable resources to provision. I wonder what they were defending themselves against?

  • @brianaimar3124
    @brianaimar3124 ปีที่แล้ว

    To me they are not dueling look more lake silos were they stored thinks , not reason and strategy to live there if there is not an steady supply of water , good vid

  • @ruskie2suck729
    @ruskie2suck729 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you see the Dog/Monkey rock? 7:18 Seems to me with no water unless in Spring they couldn't live there year round.

  • @ruskiessuck3337
    @ruskiessuck3337 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    way to far and way too small to be anything other than a small outpost/raider site.

  • @Simonjose7258
    @Simonjose7258 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Those are grain silos. Cool, dry and safe from thieves.

  • @danielshade710
    @danielshade710 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Definitely not an Anasazi ruin.
    The complicated history of Cedar Mesa is way bigger than some 100 yr old misguided label.

    • @SchoolforHackers
      @SchoolforHackers 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yup. The proto-puebloans were NOT the Ansazi.

  • @Nitrotix1
    @Nitrotix1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This is way older than 700 years old 😯

    • @Toad_Moto
      @Toad_Moto  3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      From what I've read, these ruins come from 1150 to 1280 AD.

    • @headlessspaceman5681
      @headlessspaceman5681 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is not much older than 700 years

    • @alonzowitt5931
      @alonzowitt5931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@headlessspaceman5681 Encyclopedia states: The Anasazi ("Ancient Ones"), thought to be ancestors of the modern Pueblo Indians, inhabited the Four Corners country of southern Utah, southwestern Colorado, northwestern New Mexico, and northern Arizona from about A.D. 200 to A.D. 1300, leaving a heavy accumulation of house remains and debris.

    • @mattchristensen9424
      @mattchristensen9424 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Archaeologist are wrong about a lot

    • @micklee7018
      @micklee7018 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@mattchristensen9424 they are not wrong they lie and mislead.

  • @steviebee7036
    @steviebee7036 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is super cool love the video… my only questions are who says it was a fortress ? It looks a bit too remote to be a fortress it’s like the last strong hold to die at kind of thing? What weapons were they using the allowed them to project somethings so far that it would be affective ? Just asking is all… I really love the video and will for sure look more into it just asking some questions as it seems a bit more religious then battle fortress just my thoughts is all… any how awesome video bro

    • @Toad_Moto
      @Toad_Moto  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it's just a name more than an actuality.

  • @keithwhittington1322
    @keithwhittington1322 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    No one seems to have noticed all the streaks in the sky. Hopi prophecy spoke of spider webs in the sky during end times.

    • @airmanma
      @airmanma ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah! Better go hide under your bed, Jeebus is comin.

    • @6Haunted-Days
      @6Haunted-Days 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Christ you do know there’s 100s of different types. Of clouds RIGHT?! Wow! 🙄😂🤡 but sure it’s the end times, you also aware the native Americans aren’t xtians it’s not a sky father monotheism belief system…..THEY DO NOT BEIEVE IN END TIMES.

  • @SongOfSongsOneTwelve
    @SongOfSongsOneTwelve ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These canyons were carved out by the flood. When the water abated and dissipated, the water levels were too low to stay up high in the canyons, so this forced migration as well.

  • @MrTrecutter1
    @MrTrecutter1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Watching many of these videos and it would be appearant that along with many or most cultures talk about a great flood i could see why these places are built so high up. Just mho, if you can see the water levels as it starts moving down.

  • @alonzowitt5931
    @alonzowitt5931 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Totally fascinating to say the least! Thanks for sharing 👌👍

  • @samblethen
    @samblethen 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    According to Navajo Historian Wally Brown these structures were built by the Cliff Dwellers, not the Anasazi or the Puebloans. He said that the Anasazi were evil and enslaved the Puebloans who were ground dwellers and built in the open. The Anasazi named the Cliff Dwellers the A Na Bay Ho who later became known as the Navajo by the Spanish. The Holy people and slaves ended up destroying all of the Anasazi and they have no descendants. This structure was possibly built as a defense against the Anasazi. th-cam.com/video/kz0MPOr9jas/w-d-xo.html

  • @GwPoKo
    @GwPoKo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I know it's tempting, but thank you for not using a drone like the POV channel and others. Really shows you respect these places! Thanks for the adventure!

    • @TheKingdomof_Heaven-within_me
      @TheKingdomof_Heaven-within_me 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      How do drones disturb or disrespect this area?

    • @lbj4993
      @lbj4993 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How can a drone possibly disturb ancient ruins or nature...can somebody please explain that to me...??? It for sure beats people trambling all over the place and removing artifacts; the drone doesn't do that (yet).

  • @homesteadaquarius
    @homesteadaquarius ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This was a great trip! I have always wanted to go out there and see the cliff dwellings. Happy New Year!

  • @scottchase8014
    @scottchase8014 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah I know there's vast caves in some of those plates there used to be a walking bridge across that canyon from plate to plate where you come out of a cave and walk the bridge and go in the other side into the cave on the same level Arizona is known for more vacant spaces underground than any other state.... They probably use it as a fortress now and the old maps that show right where that walking bridge across the canyon was cable bridge probably out of rope at first cable later I'm sure they took it out after the big war

  • @amonaten13
    @amonaten13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    to call it a fortress is to apply our foreign perspective of life, war, etc onto a people who culturally were wholly different and still nowhere near fully undertstood. Thier motivations for building something there are likely defensive considering ancestral puebloans had a difficult time with their neighbors and most of their sites seem defensive however many ruins are on high ground all throughout the area from a range of cultures and it is likely due to a tradition western anthropologists have yet to realize.

  • @edward3950
    @edward3950 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow dude, this is awesome, I never knew about this place! Thanks for sharing!

  • @terriniemeier6578
    @terriniemeier6578 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Invest in a drone honey invest in a drone

  • @frankanddanasnyder3272
    @frankanddanasnyder3272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you even know what a kiva is? That is not a kiva!

  • @neverinthemoment
    @neverinthemoment 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love the soft drumbeat in the background! It gives definite ambiance to what you are seeing as if the ghosts of those from long ago are still there with you!! i lived in Cortez CO years ago and remember the cliff dwellings at Mesa Verde which are similar. It is a unique experience to visit those places!!!

  • @dustinmiranda
    @dustinmiranda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yooo, not sure how I got subscribed to your channel but stoked this video came into my world. Thanks for sharing

    • @Toad_Moto
      @Toad_Moto  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Much appreciated. Glad I finally made this journey.

  • @nickefgen9219
    @nickefgen9219 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really like the area there I’d love to visit there some time, great video thank you for posting it

  • @ninjadave1970
    @ninjadave1970 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Watching this video made me a nervous wreck

  • @Cwra1smith
    @Cwra1smith ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More than likely it was a holy man or chief's retreat. You wouldn't last two long up there if your enemies cut off your food and water.

  • @georgesheffield1580
    @georgesheffield1580 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Airhead imagination at work dreaming the reality of watching this

  • @terriniemeier6578
    @terriniemeier6578 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love it it's a great video sure saves me that long walk thanks for taking the walk for us

  • @oldogre5999
    @oldogre5999 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cannot swear to this as I am rather old now, but I seem to remember my grandfather who was of the Northern Tribes telling me that the Western Pueblo people felt that Anasazi was a pejorative term used by other tribes to reference them by, more of a slave name than anything else.

  • @AyoHues
    @AyoHues 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m wondering why all the videos and comments that I’ve seen only discuss this site as probably a remote secure fortification? It looks too small & too remote to sustain normal village life. Even if they had a solution to the water supply issue, what would they eat? You’d presumably have to walk a long way to get to suitable land for growing crops or grazing animals? For a citadel to be viable, it needs to have a good degree of self-sustainability.
    This looks to me much more like the religious shrines or retreats like monasteries or holy places for the priest castes, shamanic groups or oracles etc. A place for spiritual retreat (aided by the harshness of the living there), isolation & worship - ideal to commune with the wind and the stars etc. When you visit religious shrines in other parts of the world today, it’s common to find they involve an arduous climb to access, typically with way stations for purification rites etc. And access is strictly controlled. The geography of this site would make it ideal for this kind of purpose. Also it is common for worshippers/supplicants to bring offerings of food, water and other consumables to these places. It’s not uncommon for the religious inhabitants to be entirely sustained by votive offerings.

  • @vondahartsock-oneil3343
    @vondahartsock-oneil3343 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 last thing. You didn't say it. This is from the Dine Navajo Historian himself. The Navajo named them or just called them the Anasazi. It DOES NOT MEAN ancient enemy or enemy ancestor. For one thing, the history you read is all wrong. The Anasazi were there when the Navajo, who came from the EAST, so they can't be ancestors. The Anasazi came from the South. Thus Mayan artifacts found at Chaco.
    The reason the Navajo, Anasazi called them Navaho and they've no idea why or what that meant to the Anasazi. However they were called that by the Navajo, or the Dineh b/c they were a diff. type of people, different rituals, customs and ceremonies, diff. gods, we violent and turned to sorcery and witchcraft, were SLAVE TRADERS and used slaves. Everything about them was different than all the other tribes the Dineh encountered on their journey from the East to the West. Guided by The Holy People. Anaa:Iasazi sp? I think that's close to right..in Navajo means "different" and sazi means foreigner, people etc...The Dineh meant the 5 fingered earth being. Us. The Anasazi called themselves "The Flesh" and say they came from the south.
    The Dineh have 1k yrs of Anasazi Oral Traditions and customs, stories etc...the Anasazi were there for at least 2k yrs.OH yes, and they were cannibals. Long story to that, it has to do with Christendom and I don't have time to tell it now. Sorry. OH so much more I could tell you, but this was supposed to be a comment, not a book :)

  • @yasminenazarine1629
    @yasminenazarine1629 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nrautiful thise rocks stand ny itself above another 🤨makes you put blankets sleep there 😔

  • @yasminenazarine1629
    @yasminenazarine1629 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have been that kind of place years ago ten years ago not anymore because people disappearing

  • @davidearloxley
    @davidearloxley ปีที่แล้ว

    Whatever ‘music’ or background sound you added was incredibly annoying. We had to drop down the volume to a point that we almost couldn’t hear your narration. Otherwise the video was fine.

  • @R.Es1
    @R.Es1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome. Thanks for sharing. How much time did it take from tbe beginning of the trail to get to the silos? 20-30 mins or more?

  • @argentum530
    @argentum530 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Don't like the fake Indigenous music. Sounds like a synthesizer and has no relation to tribal people who once lived there...

  • @standingbear998
    @standingbear998 ปีที่แล้ว

    makes no sense, we all know that before columbus there was no war, violence, disease or anything bad. Just a utopian heaven. why would they need a fortress? lol

  • @TerriAnnNiemeier-dy3no
    @TerriAnnNiemeier-dy3no 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These are some of the areas, I invented drones for, boys toy planes n helicopters mounted with Cameras. The hike is often not for the weak legged

  • @Italliving
    @Italliving 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    in terms of secure it is not secure, they are in fact in their own trap as they needed to descend for food water etc.. the enemy could just waited and ... well you know the rest

  • @RSKLove
    @RSKLove ปีที่แล้ว

    Just showing all the WS where to shot next time. These videos are super wrong and inconsiderate as usual.

  • @BulletSpoung
    @BulletSpoung 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wonder if anyone ever tried to attack them. Calvary, cowboys or other tribes.

  • @jeffytanner4650
    @jeffytanner4650 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do you not show the inside of it after climbing all the way up to it?

  • @WilliamWagner-hq9ut
    @WilliamWagner-hq9ut ปีที่แล้ว

    We cannot fathom how many humans were killed and eaten here.