Beach Boys' Mike Love on Crossing Paths with Charles Manson

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  • Beach Boys co-founder Mike Love, author of the new memoir “Good Vibrations,” tells a WSJ+ audience about mass murderer Charles Manson’s attempts to infiltrate the band.
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  • @sampsonsimpson1040
    @sampsonsimpson1040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Mike “never taken LSD” love

  • @Mylo12321
    @Mylo12321 5 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    It seems to me after seeing this that Charlie didn’t like the fact that Mike wasn’t mesmerized by him like everyone else was and felt as though if he was leaving the dinner he couldn’t have anymore control.

    • @jeffreysorrells8897
      @jeffreysorrells8897 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yah because Mike Love is already memorized by Mike Love.

    • @robertjohnson1681
      @robertjohnson1681 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@jeffreysorrells8897 LOL

    • @HonkeyKong54
      @HonkeyKong54 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He was mesmerized though by manson. Just in a different way by mansons girls.

  • @kalebstuckey570
    @kalebstuckey570 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I can imagine what it would have been for him to meet that kind of evil. I wonder if Manson meeting Love was what turn him crazy.

  • @Jennifer_J_D
    @Jennifer_J_D 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Invited for dinner, the only one with clothes on but hey I know I just got here but I’m going to go take a shower… smh

  • @faffaflunkie
    @faffaflunkie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The _Wall Street Journal_ should have entitled this video "a _Beach Boy_ says _ugh_ to _drugs._"

    • @PossumMedic
      @PossumMedic 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I wasn't doing drugs... I wasn't naked.... ya I decided to have a shower half way through a party....

  • @gotohoward
    @gotohoward 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    an interesting point was how he witnessed Charlie's "you can't leave the group" bit. Manson must have been a very imposing figure. I've met a few in my lifetime, these crazy lifetime jail guys. They could stab you or worse at any minute. I completely understand people being afraid of him-and how he got his ragtags to commit horrific crimes. He also played the 'save the earth" card which was his passive-aggressive method of control for the masses he was dealing with.

  • @Mylo12321
    @Mylo12321 5 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Sounds like he didn’t like the fact that he wasn’t mesmerized by him like everyone else was.

  • @rphillip1086
    @rphillip1086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Strange part of the story is that he "took a shower" at the house where he was a guest of the dinner party. Who does that. It's like Paul taking off his shoes because he had to walk on the street and it was so hot outside. Odd details that don't make sense.

    • @adrian72300
      @adrian72300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, that makes no sense at all, Manson was pimpin these girls, especially to celebrities, sounds like he was trying to "shower" off the evidence before he went home, and sneak out without paying, that's probably why Manson confronted him and told him you're not leaving without paying, and he conveniently left that part out...

    • @rphillip1086
      @rphillip1086 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adrian72300 Okay. All you know is what you've been told, my good man.

    • @adrian72300
      @adrian72300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@rphillip1086 That's all you know too, my good man, that's what theories are, opinions from what you've researched, so don't act like you were there, you don't know what happened no more than anybody else that wasn't there

    • @rphillip1086
      @rphillip1086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@adrian72300 Right and the difference between you and I is that you believe what you've been told, and repeat it like a parrot. While I am using discernment and seeing reason in the dissonance to not believe the cultural narrative pop stories from the alleged "good sources" of Big Entertainment, old chum.

    • @adrian72300
      @adrian72300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@rphillip1086 You want to sound smart, but your comments say you're not, my first comment was actually in agreement with yours, but you're not discerning enough to understand that, you don't know what sources my opinions come from, so you sound ignorant thinking your sources are better, if you don't think Charlie was pimpin those girls, you need better sources

  • @jasonsmith8300
    @jasonsmith8300 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Charles manson wrote the beach boys song never learn not to love

  • @MrFiveeasypieces
    @MrFiveeasypieces 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    I wonder if Tarantino is going to use this little episode as part of his upcoming Manson film storyline? As a pop culture afficionado he just might!

    • @andrewmudgett5715
      @andrewmudgett5715 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I’m sure the endless parties at Dennis’ house will be at least referenced but I highly doubt that Mike Love will be included since he (wisely) didn’t partake in any of those shenanigans. If he had known what the deal was on Manson before he went over there I would bet dollars to doughnuts he would’ve passed on it.

    • @johnniem4386
      @johnniem4386 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      he didn't

    • @MichaelAnthonyPresents
      @MichaelAnthonyPresents 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No and im glad he didnt, but thats not to say this wouldnt be a good idea for a movie in the future. The movie was more focused on fictional characters with Tate as the overarching main character. Didnt have many lines, but we all knew it was her story. The movie felt like Pulp Fiction, but told in order, it was 3 separate stories that all came together by the 3rd act.

    • @SidewaysBurnouts
      @SidewaysBurnouts ปีที่แล้ว

      tarantino had his own demons to contend with, the epstein flight logs.

  • @deanwalker6540
    @deanwalker6540 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Which I declined.....LOL.....Riiiiiight.

  • @peck404
    @peck404 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    He seemed genuinely Petrified. Of them😳😳

  • @johnnynbk
    @johnnynbk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    lets have a 25 year old who knows nothing interview a 70 year old who can almost remember stuff.

    • @dylanwesley3964
      @dylanwesley3964 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The interviewer is not 25 dude lol he looks like he is in his late 30's, early 40s

    • @BobSmith-mg6iz
      @BobSmith-mg6iz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dylanwesley3964 More like 50.

    • @trapmafia4716
      @trapmafia4716 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mike's not 25 anymore dude

    • @Belleadonna69
      @Belleadonna69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Doesn't matter who's how old... CHARLIE DID NOT MURDER ANYONE. THAT'S A FACT NOW. KASABIAN LIED... BUGLIOSI WROTE HER A SCRIPT OF LIES TO READ WHILE SHE SAT ON THE WITNESS STAND. TO GET IMMUNITY...SHE NOT ONLY COMMITTED PERJURY AND WALKED OUT A FREE PERSON...BUT AS IS NOW KNOWN HER ATTORNEY ATTESTED TOO....SHE WAS GUILTY OF MURDER IN THE FIRST AND COMMITTING PERJURY IN A COURT OF LAW. BUGLIOSI NEEDED TO WIN THIS CASE AND WITHOUT A KEY WITNESS (SNITCH...ONE THAT LIED!) HE'D NEVER WIN. HER ATTORNEY SAID THERE WAS JUST NOT ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO CONVICT CHARLIE AND HE WOULD HAVE WALKED OUT A FREE MAN. HE ALSO STATED CHARLIE WAS NOT GIVEN A FAIR TRIAL!!! THE BEACH BOYS WERE SO RICH AND SPOILED EXCEPT FOR DENNIS...THEY LOOKED DOWN ON HIM AND THE FAMILY. WHY THEY ARE INTERVIEWING THIS ONE IS BEYOND ME. WHO CARES ABOUT WHAT HE HAD TO SAY??? IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL AND...WELL SO WHAT???...AND IF YOU WANT TO LOOK DOWN YOUR NOSE AT PEOPLE... CAST JUDGEMENT AS WELL...I JUST WANT TO SAY ...I NEVER COULD STAND THE BEACH BOYS NOR THAT HOKEY MUSIC THEY PLAYED. TO ME I USED TO THINK....THEY LOOK LIKE THEY SMELL LIKE MILK 🥛. I WAS 11 YRS OLD IN 1969...IF THAT MATTERS...✌🏻♥️☝🏻 TY!!! FOR LETTING ME SPEW!!!!

    • @ms8596
      @ms8596 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mike Love is 76 in this interview. And yes, it appears the interviewer didn't read the autobiography Love was shilling.

  • @donaldgillespie9383
    @donaldgillespie9383 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interviewer did
    Not know what he was talking about

  • @tintomara6209
    @tintomara6209 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Took a shower,yeah right.Says Mike, the notorious cooze hound...

    • @moonbeamskies3346
      @moonbeamskies3346 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes I found that part of the story suspect. He was with one of the girls more likely.

    • @secondcomingofbast9908
      @secondcomingofbast9908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@moonbeamskies3346 So what if he was? I was with one of them once. Or could have been.

    • @joejones9520
      @joejones9520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@secondcomingofbast9908 imagine "performing" in the same room as manson.....

    • @secondcomingofbast9908
      @secondcomingofbast9908 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@joejones9520 This was before he became notorious. He was more con artist than anything and knew how to put people at ease.

    • @joejones9520
      @joejones9520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@secondcomingofbast9908 but still....

  • @wildman7384
    @wildman7384 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I find it strange that everyone was naked but him and his friend yet he decides to take a shower during this creepy dinner party

  • @deborahkelley651
    @deborahkelley651 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know if it means anything, but one never heard of Charlie bragging about meeting Mike. 😂

  • @daveycrocket2855
    @daveycrocket2855 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    All the songs you hear Charlie Manson sing was recorded at Dennis Wilson's house in his Studio also the Beach Boys stole one of Charlie Manson's songs . Charles Manson the most notorious killer that didn't kill anybody

    • @TooCooFoYou
      @TooCooFoYou 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dave Hunsicker
      Actually Charles Manson sold the song to Dennis.

    • @subg8858
      @subg8858 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      He recorded at Brian Wilson's house, but those recordings havent been heard publicly. Brian's got them on lockdown or destroyed

    • @toscodav
      @toscodav 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think Hitler probable gets the award for most notorious killer that didn't kill anybody.

    • @philfierro4356
      @philfierro4356 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      toscodav He Did Too !! He Killed Himself !! Or So They Say ???

    • @thomasfritz6425
      @thomasfritz6425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which is why he was so dangerous.He was able too brain wash some of the so called family too do his dirty work for him.

  • @lindadannis224
    @lindadannis224 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Too bad Charlie didn’t send his followers to Mike Love’s house instead...

    • @sandrawinkler8965
      @sandrawinkler8965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Or better yet send them to your house.... But then you'd probably just run to the kitchen, grab the largest butcher knife, and run back in hollering where's the pregnant girl?

    • @fabianhidalgo8591
      @fabianhidalgo8591 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are worse than Manson...

    • @joejones9520
      @joejones9520 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      why does everyone hate mike love? he was an incredible vocalist back then and sang in a style that was totally unique at the time, no one had ever sung in the CA accent. People dont seem to be aware of this.

    • @ragingbull888
      @ragingbull888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because people hate their own lives

  • @jeffreysorrells8897
    @jeffreysorrells8897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don’t think their is a lot nostalgia for what it would be like to hangout with Charles Manson and Mike Love back in the day.

  • @fatoldsun6197
    @fatoldsun6197 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    He says he didn't do LSD that's not what I heard maybe I heard wrong

  • @Votedjt2024
    @Votedjt2024 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dennis Wilson knows Charles Manson

  • @danab.1947
    @danab.1947 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Technically charles wasn't a killer...

    • @kyledavis635
      @kyledavis635 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Neither was Hitler

    • @danab.1947
      @danab.1947 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kyledavis635 What about his niece? I'm betting he did it 🤷‍♀️

    • @kieransoregaard-utt8
      @kieransoregaard-utt8 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He killed Donald Shea, so yes, he was.

  • @tombuchanan7302
    @tombuchanan7302 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I met The Beach Boys in 2013

  • @josephconsoli4128
    @josephconsoli4128 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "Knowing" the Beach Boys was all Charlie had. I don't think anyone knew just how much he not only wanted, but demanded, a record contract, as well as how violent he could get when miffed. When he got snubbed Charlie got furious and went on a drug induced vengeance spree. It's as simple as that. He thought he was clever enough to get his wayward stoned follows to do his dirty work under the name of some wacky cause. Of course that didn't work out to well for him.

    • @elvisvonschoonoven656
      @elvisvonschoonoven656 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes!! With all the Manson groupies out there talking “patsy” or even calling him a prophet, it’s nice to hear someone put it like it was. Thank for truth on social media. Doesn’t seem to happen very often but when it does, it’s great to see.

    • @josephconsoli4128
      @josephconsoli4128 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@elvisvonschoonoven656 Thank you. It like a detective figuring out a crime. It's using basic horse sense. Something that's lost today.

  • @thomasday5215
    @thomasday5215 6 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    idk Charlie seemed like a pretty cool guy to hang out with

    • @sandrawinkler8965
      @sandrawinkler8965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah just like a rattle snake is a pretty cool snake to cuddle with!

    • @davidb2206
      @davidb2206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great fun, as long as you weren't killed.

  • @garyr7027
    @garyr7027 ปีที่แล้ว

    Manson never stood down on his claim that the beach boys stole one of his songs. He was a nut case, even if his claim was true he wasn't gonna get far with it anyways. Manson would have been better off not even stepping foot in Hollywood. Sadly his beginnings were just as bad as his endings, and he never could overcome it.

  • @Nickpaintbrush
    @Nickpaintbrush 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like Manson wanted to recreate the "Psycho" shower scene!

  • @cappy2282
    @cappy2282 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wall Street journal is terrible lol

  • @cumberbatchambassador4270
    @cumberbatchambassador4270 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can’t believe this but, this was on my recommended.... how?

  • @marissabones
    @marissabones 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Okay

  • @VarnasL
    @VarnasL 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He might be lying about what has happened there, just to keep the appearence up

  • @thejew1789
    @thejew1789 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why tf are we calling this clown "Charlie"

  • @iamthebuddha
    @iamthebuddha ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yeah....so he showed up to a house with a bunch of naked people. Stayed even though it wasn't his scene, ate dinner....and like most people after finishing a meal he--took a shower while everyone else did LSD. Right.

  •  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    acid's groovy kill the pigs?

  • @StephenAndrew777
    @StephenAndrew777 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Someone mentioned Charles Manson online! Everybody pretend to fight!

  • @eyemnew2991
    @eyemnew2991 ปีที่แล้ว

    The CM killing spree was because he didn't get a record deal from that record producer.
    I never got a record deal from a record producer in my life either, but I never went out and killed people.

    • @ettome
      @ettome ปีที่แล้ว

      Who did he kill? you seem brainwashed there pal

  • @andrewcross8244
    @andrewcross8244 ปีที่แล้ว

    That question should have only been asked to Dennis Wilson

  • @sambartle882
    @sambartle882 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    hes not a notorious killer

    • @mjt11860
      @mjt11860 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      he did take part in 1 of the killings.

    • @iVenge
      @iVenge 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      mike love killed the beach boys

    • @SandmanFightingSys
      @SandmanFightingSys 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      mjt11860 he tied a man up and cut his ear.

    • @lysergicthesaurus9457
      @lysergicthesaurus9457 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charles Manson was a sensative men

    • @frederiksaraber4093
      @frederiksaraber4093 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sam Bartle He didn't kill anybody the girls did.

  • @leescott2069
    @leescott2069 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    🎶What's your game girl🎶 i believe was the song manson wrote andcwanted Dennis to record but instead G"N"R did 25 year's later.

    • @antonioacevedo5200
      @antonioacevedo5200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am embarrassed to admit it, by I like that song a lot. I didn't know that G & R recorded it.

    • @secondcomingofbast9908
      @secondcomingofbast9908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Look At Your Game, Girl.

  • @raffaelae1020
    @raffaelae1020 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He met him once but calls him Charlie? Very affectionate way of calling a stranger

    • @3zqx
      @3zqx 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      true nuff.lol.

    • @lookatmepleasesir
      @lookatmepleasesir 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      well charlie and dennis wilson were pretty much joined at the hip...but it does seem unlikely that mike love only met charlie once

    • @sandrawinkler8965
      @sandrawinkler8965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have never met the lunatic, and I refer to him as Charley.... So your point is?

    • @mauriciolandos1173
      @mauriciolandos1173 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe because he always heard Dennis call him Charlie

    • @secondcomingofbast9908
      @secondcomingofbast9908 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mauriciolandos1173 Not to mention, everybody in the world calls him Charlie

  • @nploda1408
    @nploda1408 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Wow this guy seems like a lot of fun. 🙄
    What a square.

  • @mike300406
    @mike300406 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    smart and lucky man

  • @robertdavidson9393
    @robertdavidson9393 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beach Boys great Manson NUTS

  • @pleasereturnT
    @pleasereturnT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If he only had one dinner with them and excused himself dishonorably. Why does it goes this far is the beach boys having a song written by manson?

    • @petermarko8534
      @petermarko8534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dennis was the one that maintained contact with Manson and was the one credited with the song after having had the name changed.

  • @elkewood2480
    @elkewood2480 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Donald Trump is the best best present ever

    • @MicheleMJJ
      @MicheleMJJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The best "present" ever. Learn to spell idiot.

  • @JerichoMile4
    @JerichoMile4 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uh...5'2 Charlie Manson and strobe lights ! 🤔

  • @Axeltonn
    @Axeltonn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Notorious killer. Except he never killed anyone.

    • @RAFFAGAN
      @RAFFAGAN 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Groucho-tg1tx As far as i'm aware Dennis Wilson never saw Manson kill anyone,
      the only person Manson killed or rather tried to kill was Bernard Crow when he shot him and left him for dead, and he did cut Gary Hinman's ear off, but he didn't kill him. where did you hear that? and who did you hear that he killed?

    • @sandrawinkler8965
      @sandrawinkler8965 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree, I don't think Mike Love ever killed anyone either! At least not in the same way that Manson had some innocent people horribly mutilated, and murdered anyway.

    • @subg8858
      @subg8858 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only source for claim Dennis saw Manson kill someone is Mike Love. Completely uncorroborated. Also didn't help the guy supposedly killed turned up alive years later

    • @andrewking9761
      @andrewking9761 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What about Shorty shea at the Spahn Ranch

    • @tracydee1857
      @tracydee1857 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sandrawinkler8965 ..... who mutilated and murdered people? You best read your facts. Winkler. Really.

  • @bjlittleton8074
    @bjlittleton8074 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Manson never killed wayne williams is a killer not manson

    • @Finians_Mancave
      @Finians_Mancave 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You are a complete moron. Nice try, racist troll.

  • @KoolT
    @KoolT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yikes

  • @andrewmudgett5715
    @andrewmudgett5715 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Unlike Dennis, Mike Love had a good head on his shoulders- he was smart enough to not get caught up in the trendy psychedelic drug culture of the time. He’s a good guy & has a great family.

    • @KarmicSalt
      @KarmicSalt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      he is not telling the truth tho. Mason had girls and drugs and they all partook. They even recorded one of Charlie's songs.

  • @davidharrison4881
    @davidharrison4881 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    He has to wear a Beach Boy hat cuz he's old.

    • @sandrawinkler8965
      @sandrawinkler8965 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And someday..... If you are very lucky..... You might become old too...... But I doubt it!

    • @inranglhood60
      @inranglhood60 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He misplaced his "Mike Love" hat the day (yes he likes to wear it 🤦)

  • @LovesTheGash
    @LovesTheGash 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    CM seems like an alright guy

    • @gutenbird
      @gutenbird 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LovesTheGash now that he’s dead

    • @davidb2206
      @davidb2206 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of fun, as long as he didn't kill you.

    • @eyemnew2991
      @eyemnew2991 ปีที่แล้ว

      🤨

  • @Belleadonna69
    @Belleadonna69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    CHARLIE NEVER KILLED ANYONE!!! STRIKE YOUR REMARK REGARDING HIM AS A NOTORIOUS KILLER. TY!!!☝🏻✌🏻♥️

  • @nomosss
    @nomosss 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Charlie never killed anybody.

  • @kittykaos3725
    @kittykaos3725 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lucky man!!

  • @KountryStateOfMind
    @KountryStateOfMind 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Manson never killed anyone

    • @thomasbowe9956
      @thomasbowe9956 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yeah he just manipulated other weaker people to do his dirty work for him.

    • @JacoWium
      @JacoWium 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Neither did Hitler. Easy to cherry-pick facts, right? To see it all in context...that's for them smart guys.

    • @scudderman1
      @scudderman1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JacoWium helter skelter conspiracy theory ...it is falling apart. tex was the killer.

    • @adrian72300
      @adrian72300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@scudderman1 Did Manson control that beast?

  • @KarmicSalt
    @KarmicSalt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BS they were all over Manson because he had girls and drugs. Mike wants to change what happened but they recorded one of Charlie's songs.