Tu siab nawb cov tub & cov npawg , qhov tseeb tiag nej tsi to tau txoj kev ua neej ,tus tub tsis tsim nyog yuav los ntuas tus laus.nej yuam kev deb lawm tiag2.......
It is very sad,indeed. A man's belief surely determine his destiny. When we follow the desires of our sinful human nature, the results are very clear: Sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and many other sins like these. God produces this kind of results in our lives. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. We will not be able to solve our problems until we confess our sins.
The father, Pa Se Vang, is around 80 years old. He could have mental issues that our medical community probably didn't realize of. In our Hmong culture, elders don't usually visit clinics and admit that they have illness, even though they do have it. Most important of all, we need to know that a majority of our Hmong elder men are war veterans, and they had been traumatized by the so called "U.S Secret War" in Laos. So they have lots of issues. In the case of father Pa Se Vang, he could have had some mental illness that led into the killing of his son. Again, our Hmong brother Chuefeng Vang was 36 years old, educated and thoughtful. He should have had learned some basic principles that govern Hmong culture. He could have had prevented that tragedy which claimed his own life, if he had consulted those around him for solutions. His death set good example for all of us to learn that when we have problems with our Father we need to seek solutions from those who we trust. He will be missed. May God bless all of us! Thank you, Always peace
maybe, it is better to go then live with a father like that. Chue Feng, mam coj koj txiv mus hais saum ntuj. mam rov qab lo plis ua peb it tug kwv tij Hmoob tshiab. Peb hmoob sawvdaws nco thiab tshua txog koj.
Nco ntsoov tias cov neeg laus tswv yim puas tas zoo li tus no ces txhob pub riam phom ze nws tes xwb ces yuav tsis ntsib tej teeb meem zoo li no lawm los mas nawb, vim tsis muaj neeg muaj cuab kav txeeb tej riam phom zoo li nov ua ntej thiaj tau txais kev tu siab zoo li nov. Absolutely no weapon close to or possess by this 80 year old mentally unstable man. This is a must not to forget. Protect-Protect-Protect!
Nej twb tsis paub qhov tseeb es nej ho hais li ko .. yog koj tus tub muab koj laij tawm tsev es koj yuav ua li cas ma yog kuv los kuv ua ib yam thiab.....
Tos niam no peb s/d lub neej puas tag thiab sib ntaus sib tua li no los yog tim lawv cov tib neeg mus thaij cov ntxhais hmoob nplog thiab rau kiag lawv tus me xov tooj rau na. Cov nam no peb cov hluas yeej tsi K ntsia li, yog peb tej niam txiv laus lawv thiaj li xav saib xwb. Lawv mas tsawg daim tawm tshiab mas yuav tag los saib, puas tsawg tus ntxhais zoo nkauj mas hu xov tooj tham tag. Thaum tham hnov hmoob nplog hais lus zoo ces cia li vwm mus tim ub lawm, kuv mas ntxub cov neeg mus thaij tej nam no dhau, ntxub cov thaub laus mus tim ub, thiab ntxub cov ntxhais poj laib tim ub dhaus lawm. Cov lus no hais rau tus ua lawm xwb, tsi hais rau cov tsi tau ua nawb.
Tim cov niag poj laib tim plog teb xwn ma xav xav tau thaub laus li nyiaj a thiaj li zoo li no cov niag pog moob plog KHAUS PIM TSHAJ thiab hu loj tshaj plaus
Pab hlub txog tus brother ko os. Cas nws txiv siab phem ua luaj. Thov kom nws mus zoo kom lwm tiam tau niam tau txiv zoo hlub nws es thiaj tsim nyog nws raug kev tsim txom tiam no os.
Ua cas nej tsis kav liam nws, ywj nws ua li cas los xij nws, pheej mus tawm tsam nws dab tsi ma? kuv thov kom cov niam tub uas nej txiv tham hluas nkauj teb chaws nplog, cia nws mus raws nws txoj kev xaiv. pheej txhob mus cem nws hais txog yam nws ua no? leave him alone. koj tsis muaj txoj cai mus qhuab qhia koj txiv, txawm koj txawj ntse npaum twg los koj txiv tsuas muab nws lub hwj chim Txiv los tuav xwb, me tub me nyuam tsuas yog tam li quav zis, xwb, kuv hais puas yog thiab?
What did you find wrong, tell me your thoughts of which is better then what I did proven helpful to my and other families. You said wrong but offer no other idea then its better not to say anything at all. What you say don't make sense but what I said was productive
You said I am wrong but gave me no clue, my idea was proven to be working, I wouldn't share it with you if it is worthless, this old and clumsy man can only harm his family, he can protect nothing from an intruder who won't give him a chance. Go head give a hand gun to your grand pa and we will certainly see you in the news next.
Here is what I see wrong, this old man verbally threaten to kill the family and gave them plenty of time to take away the gun from him but they did nothing, no one including the deacon believed this old man mean what he said, for me I wouldn't wait a second to do so. It worked for my family and why not yours. The fastest way to prevent something bad like this from happening is to do what I said. I blame the family and the deacon for failure.
Tu siab nawb cov tub & cov npawg , qhov tseeb tiag nej tsi to tau txoj kev ua neej ,tus tub tsis tsim nyog yuav los ntuas tus laus.nej yuam kev deb lawm tiag2.......
It break my heart to see something like this happened to such an good man! May you rest in peace Chue Feng!
Sad May god blessed the family
every time i watch any coverage on this story my heart aches and is heavy. again, my condolences to the vang family and friends in their loss.
Far well to u son..Heaven is a better place to lives..
Hmoob thov tso tseg txoj kev laus cev tsis laus siab..
you mean 2014?
yog ib zaj story uas tu siab kawg, tab sis ua cas tsis kav liam es muaj nej txiv lub hwj chim rhuav rau ntiaj teb paub.
It is very sad,indeed. A man's belief surely determine his destiny. When we follow the desires of our sinful human nature, the results are very clear: Sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and many other sins like these. God produces this kind of results in our lives. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. We will not be able to solve our problems until we confess our sins.
Wow....can't believe he's gone. Went to high school with him, haven't see him in years. R.I.P, chuefeng.
This is really sad! I can't believe his own dad would do this to him. May he rest in peace!
We want to hear from the old man's side of the story. He's not dead yet.
The father, Pa Se Vang, is around 80 years old. He could have mental issues that our medical community probably didn't realize of. In our Hmong culture, elders don't usually visit clinics and admit that they have illness, even though they do have it.
Most important of all, we need to know that a majority of our Hmong elder men are war veterans, and they had been traumatized by the so called "U.S Secret War" in Laos. So they have lots of issues. In the case of father Pa Se Vang, he could have had some mental illness that led into the killing of his son.
Again, our Hmong brother Chuefeng Vang was 36 years old, educated and thoughtful. He should have had learned some basic principles that govern Hmong culture. He could have had prevented that tragedy which claimed his own life, if he had consulted those around him for solutions. His death set good example for all of us to learn that when we have problems with our Father we need to seek solutions from those who we trust. He will be missed. May God bless all of us!
Thank you,
Always peace
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maybe, it is better to go then live with a father like that. Chue Feng, mam coj koj txiv mus hais saum ntuj. mam rov qab lo plis ua peb it tug kwv tij Hmoob tshiab. Peb hmoob sawvdaws nco thiab tshua txog koj.
Nco ntsoov tias cov neeg laus tswv yim puas tas zoo li tus no ces txhob pub riam phom ze nws tes xwb ces yuav tsis ntsib tej teeb meem zoo li no lawm los mas nawb, vim tsis muaj neeg muaj cuab kav txeeb tej riam phom zoo li nov ua ntej thiaj tau txais kev tu siab zoo li nov. Absolutely no weapon close to or possess by this 80 year old mentally unstable man. This is a must not to forget. Protect-Protect-Protect!
No one is to blame but the father. It's a wonder how his son turned out to be a good person, given such a shitty father.
txaj muag dhau lawm os yawg laus awww.. cas yus tsis tua yus tus kheej xwb es tseem tua yus tus tub lawm thiab os.
hmoob ce yeej laim pem suav teb lo lawm cia kom nw tshuav 1 coj 2 ki xwb thiaj haum ma thov txim hmoob ce yog kuv thiab nawb
Twb coj hnub qub daj rhuv es ua cas ho tsis coj mus pauv teb chaws rau peb Hmoob nyob ma yawg Hlob Paj....
laus tag lawm xu siab dhau txaj muaj dhau thaub laus kuv pab nej tsev neeg tu siab god will punish the old man in heaven.
Nej twb tsis paub qhov tseeb es nej ho hais li ko .. yog koj tus tub muab koj laij tawm tsev es koj yuav ua li cas ma yog kuv los kuv ua ib yam thiab.....
kev nkauj nraug yog kev liam
Tos niam no peb s/d lub neej puas tag thiab sib ntaus sib tua li no los yog tim lawv cov tib neeg mus thaij cov ntxhais hmoob nplog thiab rau kiag lawv tus me xov tooj rau na. Cov nam no peb cov hluas yeej tsi K ntsia li, yog peb tej niam txiv laus lawv thiaj li xav saib xwb. Lawv mas tsawg daim tawm tshiab mas yuav tag los saib, puas tsawg tus ntxhais zoo nkauj mas hu xov tooj tham tag. Thaum tham hnov hmoob nplog hais lus zoo ces cia li vwm mus tim ub lawm, kuv mas ntxub cov neeg mus thaij tej nam no dhau, ntxub cov thaub laus mus tim ub, thiab ntxub cov ntxhais poj laib tim ub dhaus lawm. Cov lus no hais rau tus ua lawm xwb, tsi hais rau cov tsi tau ua nawb.
Tim cov niag poj laib tim plog teb xwn ma xav xav tau thaub laus li nyiaj a thiaj li zoo li no cov niag pog moob plog KHAUS PIM TSHAJ thiab hu loj tshaj plaus
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neeg laus xiam hlwb tua nws tus Tub.
Pab hlub txog tus brother ko os. Cas nws txiv siab phem ua luaj. Thov kom nws mus zoo kom lwm tiam tau niam tau txiv zoo hlub nws es thiaj tsim nyog nws raug kev tsim txom tiam no os.
Kwv tij hmoob yog vim cas nej leej ntxhiv ntseem tuas tu tub vim yog tham tej nkauj mos xwb puas ntsim nyog?
Ua cas nej tsis kav liam nws, ywj nws ua li cas los xij nws, pheej mus tawm tsam nws dab tsi ma? kuv thov kom cov niam tub uas nej txiv tham hluas nkauj teb chaws nplog, cia nws mus raws nws txoj kev xaiv. pheej txhob mus cem nws hais txog yam nws ua no? leave him alone. koj tsis muaj txoj cai mus qhuab qhia koj txiv, txawm koj txawj ntse npaum twg los koj txiv tsuas muab nws lub hwj chim Txiv los tuav xwb, me tub me nyuam tsuas yog tam li quav zis, xwb, kuv hais puas yog thiab?
No, completely wrong
What did you find wrong, tell me your thoughts of which is better then what I did proven helpful to my and other families. You said wrong but offer no other idea then its better not to say anything at all. What you say don't make sense but what I said was productive
You said I am wrong but gave me no clue, my idea was proven to be working, I wouldn't share it with you if it is worthless, this old and clumsy man can only harm his family, he can protect nothing from an intruder who won't give him a chance. Go head give a hand gun to your grand pa and we will certainly see you in the news next.
Here is what I see wrong, this old man verbally threaten to kill the family and gave them plenty of time to take away the gun from him but they did nothing, no one including the deacon believed this old man mean what he said, for me I wouldn't wait a second to do so. It worked for my family and why not yours. The fastest way to prevent something bad like this from happening is to do what I said. I blame the family and the deacon for failure.
Neeg coj dab are very danger.