I am 'new' to learning a new language. I chose hmong because I work with several people who speak it. They are very helpful, but I like to see the written letters as well. I would like to what the picture represents. Is that the word below the picture? Can you write the word in english, hmong and phenetically so we can pronounce it? For example, Xx (pronounced săw with a silent w at the end?), Ss (pronounced shăw with a silent w?) or Qq (qwă). I don't expect to speak professionally, I just don't want to pronounce things wrong and affend anyone or embarrass myself. Thanks LuSee
There is no shame in recognizing the Hmong RPA (Romanized Popular Alphabet) as written Hmong. It is what it is--a structured writing system for the Hmong language. Hmong RPA has facilitated the proliferation of literacy among our people and helped to ensure the continuity of a language that most western-born Hmong speak clumsily. It is no less valid than a writing system that was "revealed" to someone claiming to be a messianic Hmong leader.
@goldseekertime You are right. this is not Hmong alphabet. I was taught that it was Latin alphabet by my teacher. It was used in Europe many centuries ago.
You're right, @ 2:34 the way he pronounce it is incorrect, however the picture is showing the correct image. But if he's teaching someone then i strongly recommend that he should do several editing before publishing. Btw, what is Rhoob? (he said it)
@glancemuajmoo Don't confuse your class with White Hmong and Green Hmong (Moob leeg). When it comes to teaching, I found many teachers mixed up with white hmong and green hmong. They were not even noticed it.
Thov ua tsaug ntau rau koj òd tij laug cov dov tawj txhua tug muab lub luag qav luag num tso rau poj niam tub se es sawv đaws khswv khwv tsim tus ntawv no los rau peb tsev neeg kom muaj ntaub ntawv rau yus tsev neeg hais tau yus lus muab xa thoob ntuj kom sawv đaws txais tau kom txawj sib hlub sib pab koom noj ib rab diav rau ib nkawm khau los sawv daws tseem tsis to tau thiab niam nkauj ntsuab tug hneev taw nyob qhov t ces yus lub ntuj ceeb tsheej nyob qhov ntaw ntag tiam sis luag txhua tug uas ntseeg nyob qub qab no lawv yuav tug tswv ed yuav mus nrog tswv nyob saum ntuj ceeb tsheej no tug tuwb nrog nraim yus nyob tiam sis yus tưb tsis txais tos tswv es tseem yúav muaj ib tug nyob qhov tư thíab mam cov ktij tij laug thov koj múab xa rov tuaj rau peb cov k tij uas tsis to taub
koj qhia rau sawv daws kawm mas zoo kawg, tiam sis ntawm cov niam ntawv niam uas koj hais tus A, E, O thaib lwm cov ntxiv, koj hais tau tsis yog lub suab lawm, vim koj hais li uas muaj tus cim mus nrog rau lawm.!!!!
Ah, I was testing my ability to transcribe these words (I listened to the word, tried writing it out, then looked at the spelling given), and became confused at "rho" from double consonant "rh". I couldn't tell if there was a pronunciation error, a spelling error, or if my ear still couldn't distinguish tones well enough...
He doesn't list all the Tsiaj ntawv niam tab." There should be ab, am, aj, av, a, as, ag ,ad ib, im, ij, iv, i, is, ig, id eb, em, ej, ev, e, es, eg, ed ob, om, oj, ov, o, os, og, od ub, um, uj, uv, u, us, ug, ud wb, wm, wj, wv, w, ws, wg, wd Then aab, aam, aaj, aav, aa, aas, aag, aad aib, aim, aij, aiv, ai, ais, aig, aid iab, iam, iaj, iav, ia, ias, iag, iad eeb, eem, eej, eev, ee, ees, eeg, eed oob, oom, ooj, oov, oo, oos, oog, ood uab, uam, uaj, uav, ua, uas, uag, uad Still, this will help other people who like to learn how to read and spell in Hmong. Nice vid.
Friend, I think you either misstated or misunderstood. As it relates to Tsiaj Ntawv Niam Tab (single vowels), he did list all of them: a, e, i, o, u, and w. There are 6 single vowels and 8 double vowels (7 of these double vowels are in White Hmong and 8 in Green Hmong): au, ua, ai, ia, ee, oo, aw, and aa. The "aa" double vowel being Green Hmong. Taking a look at what you wrote, I think you mistook vowels for tone markers.The video did show all 8 tone letters/markers as well, albeit not with the vowels as you listed. As someone who cares deeply about the survival of our people, I believe that there should be uniformity in the understanding of our language. Los, cia peb sau tshooj tomntej ntawm peb haiv uake.
@goldseekertime, at least tus xibfwb posted it for free. why don't u go do some videos for those of us wanting to learn Hmong can understand & stop complaining.
Hmong Latin is not recommend for Hmong written language. Why? Because reason#1. Its purpose is to spread the Catholic religion to the Hmong only. 2. It was invent by non-Hmong. It is so shameful for Hmong to recognize it as Hmong Written language. Please think careful before you decide to honor it for the Hmong people.
Learned Hmong back in Thailand. Can't recall these many. Glad I can read and write in Hmong.
I am 'new' to learning a new language. I chose hmong because I work with several people who speak it. They are very helpful, but I like to see the written letters as well. I would like to what the picture represents. Is that the word below the picture? Can you write the word in english, hmong and phenetically so we can pronounce it? For example, Xx (pronounced săw with a silent w at the end?), Ss (pronounced shăw with a silent w?) or Qq (qwă). I don't expect to speak professionally, I just don't want to pronounce things wrong and affend anyone or embarrass myself. Thanks LuSee
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There is no shame in recognizing the Hmong RPA (Romanized Popular Alphabet) as written Hmong. It is what it is--a structured writing system for the Hmong language. Hmong RPA has facilitated the proliferation of literacy among our people and helped to ensure the continuity of a language that most western-born Hmong speak clumsily. It is no less valid than a writing system that was "revealed" to someone claiming to be a messianic Hmong leader.
Thanks for making this video. It has helped my goal to learn my language this year a lot easier.
Zoo heev li os ❤❤❤❤❤
Wow, great video!
this is great, one of the best hmong videos i've seen on youtube!
Koom siab os tuaj lawm nawb
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Good video
Zoo heev li nawb!
@goldseekertime You are right. this is not Hmong alphabet. I was taught that it was Latin alphabet by my teacher. It was used in Europe many centuries ago.
Wow this video is great took me a bit to decipher the rhythm but it is very simple
ขอบคุณค่ะ💙
Wow kuv tsis paub hmoob li lawn thiab koj pab kuv thiab
You're right, @ 2:34 the way he pronounce it is incorrect, however the picture is showing the correct image. But if he's teaching someone then i strongly recommend that he should do several editing before publishing.
Btw, what is Rhoob? (he said it)
Yeej nyeem tsis yog lawm. Tabsis rhoob yog txoj phuam cov poj niam txheej thaum ub lawv hnav daim tiav hmoob es muab qhwv lawv ob txhais ceg.
2:34
这是苗语？
@glancemuajmoo Don't confuse your class with White Hmong and Green Hmong (Moob leeg). When it comes to teaching, I found many teachers mixed up with white hmong and green hmong. They were not even noticed it.
thank you!
This is awesome!!! Im gonna watch it everyday!!!
Thov ua tsaug ntau rau koj òd tij laug cov dov tawj txhua tug muab lub luag qav luag num tso rau poj niam tub se es sawv đaws khswv khwv tsim tus ntawv no los rau peb tsev neeg kom muaj ntaub ntawv rau yus tsev neeg hais tau yus lus muab xa thoob ntuj kom sawv đaws txais tau kom txawj sib hlub sib pab koom noj ib rab diav rau ib nkawm khau los sawv daws tseem tsis to tau thiab niam nkauj ntsuab tug hneev taw nyob qhov t ces yus lub ntuj ceeb tsheej nyob qhov ntaw ntag tiam sis luag txhua tug uas ntseeg nyob qub qab no lawv yuav tug tswv ed yuav mus nrog tswv nyob saum ntuj ceeb tsheej no tug tuwb nrog nraim yus nyob tiam sis yus tưb tsis txais tos tswv es tseem yúav muaj ib tug nyob qhov tư thíab mam cov ktij tij laug thov koj múab xa rov tuaj rau peb cov k tij uas tsis to taub
Haha I remember learning this in Hmong class, when I was in high school.
koj qhia rau sawv daws kawm mas zoo kawg, tiam sis ntawm cov niam ntawv niam uas koj hais tus A, E, O thaib lwm cov ntxiv, koj hais tau tsis yog lub suab lawm, vim koj hais li uas muaj tus cim mus nrog rau lawm.!!!!
thanks!! extremely helpful!!
为什么用这么长串字母？因为是历史拼写吗？
It helps alot to kids
qhe tau zoo kawg sib pab txhawb qa os kuv pab koj lawm thov pab txhawb kuv thiab py
I liked it but it was too fast to ketchup
Are you teaching Green Hmong or White Hmong? Dl and dlh are not white Hmong language
Deleted Letters
B,J,N,W
There are some where you mispronounce some words. Yes, I can't spell but I can read and speak it though.
Ah, I was testing my ability to transcribe these words (I listened to the word, tried writing it out, then looked at the spelling given), and became confused at "rho" from double consonant "rh". I couldn't tell if there was a pronunciation error, a spelling error, or if my ear still couldn't distinguish tones well enough...
how is the kids going to learn from you?, your going to fast for most kids that are first time.
Thanks.
Too fast buddy you need to slow it down for people who just leaning
Kuv txais koj ua phooj yws lawm koj ho pab txais Kuv thiab os
@5:03 he misses pronouncing the middle word "Paaj pab saaj". It should be "Paaj paab saaj".
good catch..
5:03
tij laug koj puas kam qhia ib co ntawv niam ntawv english sib dlos los qhia meej li tij daim clip qhia no puas tau hihi thanks you ...
learning sweet talk ^_^
HUMM.. i REMEMBER THESE..PAPA FORCED ME TO LEARN WHEN i WAS YOUNG..SO CONFUSING..LOL..iM STILL HMONG ILLITERATE. AHAH
Like os...
I mean @2:35
Glad you listened and paid closed attention....thanks!
@2:35
He doesn't list all the Tsiaj ntawv niam tab."
There should be
ab, am, aj, av, a, as, ag ,ad
ib, im, ij, iv, i, is, ig, id
eb, em, ej, ev, e, es, eg, ed
ob, om, oj, ov, o, os, og, od
ub, um, uj, uv, u, us, ug, ud
wb, wm, wj, wv, w, ws, wg, wd
Then
aab, aam, aaj, aav, aa, aas, aag, aad
aib, aim, aij, aiv, ai, ais, aig, aid
iab, iam, iaj, iav, ia, ias, iag, iad
eeb, eem, eej, eev, ee, ees, eeg, eed
oob, oom, ooj, oov, oo, oos, oog, ood
uab, uam, uaj, uav, ua, uas, uag, uad
Still, this will help other people who like to learn how to read and spell in Hmong. Nice vid.
Friend, I think you either misstated or misunderstood. As it relates to Tsiaj Ntawv Niam Tab (single vowels), he did list all of them: a, e, i, o, u, and w. There are 6 single vowels and 8 double vowels (7 of these double vowels are in White Hmong and 8 in Green Hmong): au, ua, ai, ia, ee, oo, aw, and aa. The "aa" double vowel being Green Hmong. Taking a look at what you wrote, I think you mistook vowels for tone markers.The video did show all 8 tone letters/markers as well, albeit not with the vowels as you listed. As someone who cares deeply about the survival of our people, I believe that there should be uniformity in the understanding of our language. Los, cia peb sau tshooj tomntej ntawm peb haiv uake.
@6:12 - Rh - Rho is wrong (in speaking). The way he said suppose to be Rh - Rhoob is wrong (in writing)..
@6:12
Rq
Rqh
Drq
Drqh
these are english alphabets
No
nyas qha nyas es leej twg yog tug qha yog
peb muaj ntau yam ntawv sau thiab lu hai tab qho tseeb peb kuj tseem muaj coob leej sau tsi txhuam raug hai kiag kuv lo kuj paub tsi tau txhua thiab
@goldseekertime, at least tus xibfwb posted it for free. why don't u go do some videos for those of us wanting to learn Hmong can understand & stop complaining.
Hmong Latin is not recommend for Hmong written language. Why? Because reason#1. Its purpose is to spread the Catholic religion to the Hmong only. 2. It was invent by non-Hmong. It is so shameful for Hmong to recognize it as Hmong Written language. Please think careful before you decide to honor it for the Hmong people.
ndlh wrong