Dave, you should start a campaign to get Tuktamysheva back to the competition by sending her hand painted miniature portraits of her (and maybe some gift baskets).
Kolyada was so wonderful to watch. He was a true artist on ice with gorgeous technique. But he never managed to fully overcome his competition nerves and hiccoughs. If only he'd been able to get the help with mental counseling and well-paced choreography, that has done wonders for Amber Glenn's confidence!
@@LindyMia-ft9md I don`t have any words for how much I miss him .... not only as a skater, but as a person.A cool, very smart guy with a good sense of humor. And a brilliant skater- he was the one who inpired me to work more on my skating skills and to finally learn rockers, counters, brackets and loops at the age of almost 50 years. His flying sit spin is still unmatched and he will be the white crow for EVER ! 🙂
Always love when you have Maya and Elena back on. We’ve been spoiled and treated in the midst of “mixed bag” holidays for some. We love you Dave, Jonathan, Alyssa, Nolan and happy holiday❤🎄🎅
Dave thank you so much for all your work - thank you for Elena - her insight and enthusiasm is just wonderful. Wishing all of you at TSL a happy peaceful relaxing holiday period. I hope you realise how much you are appreciated.
Amazing I absolutely love Elena I think she is 100% correct in her words of crossovers and stroking skating skills My students think they are boring too but Nothing is worse than a skater doing a great jump and then beginner crossovers it’s awful just awful.Thankyou Elena I would love to teach with her amazing Happy Chanakuh and Happy New Year !!
You are very obsessive about the interrupting. In the other show, it was very critical to challenge Maya and she has a way of talking over me as well. What you are not understanding is that in today's landscape with social media, there are certain things that she can say/can't say --and there are always things that I cannot let go unchecked. These episodes about Russia are very tricky. There are people who watch who will be Pro-Russia, Anti-Russia, etc. I am trying to provide an even discussion of the skating. The reality of the situation is that there is skating occurring in Russia and they will likely be back. There is also the context of doping and war. To let anything go risks a social media firestorm and has to be handled in advance.
@@TheSkatingLesson The Maya video was literally the first time I ever posted about the interrupting, so no, I am definitely not "obsessive". Lots of people point it out, so I'm not sure why you're attacking me in particular when I went out of my way to pay you a compliment. However, I do understand what you are saying here and I appreciate that you clarified. As I understand, you are saying that there were certain things you were afraid she'd say and you wanted to nip it in the bud.
@@TheSkatingLesson I really enjoy Maya and I am glad you brought up the more important doping issue that is still what bothers most people who love the sport and want fair competition. We are not inherently anti-Russian. I actually blame western aggression for this conflict, so I appreciated you didn't let that one go. Would love to know if the ISU or IOC has ever answered why they do not adopt such anti-doping measures, is it just cost?
Thank you for pointing out so calmly. I agree give credit where it is due and I have posted a lot of positive comments for TSL but sometimes it feels like the smallest comment flips DL out , I am quite surprised how targeted his comment was. @@Rachel-rs7jn
Kostornaia recently said the exact thing that Elena Betchke said that Adelia is just always going to be small. Kosto said she used to see Petrosian’s mom all the time and that Adelia is already the size of her mother and they’re both lucky in that regard that they don’t have to face the same kind of growth during puberty like most female skaters do. Adelia already grew so much the past 2 seasons so I don’t think RusFed will be concerned about that. Also one of Russia’s main figure skating journalists said he heard that RusFed really likes Dikidzhi for the future. I really want to see Kaganovskaia/Nekrasov at the qualifier.
@@Oocrs3158 Tursynbaeva was a tiny young woman post puberty and ONE season training quads under Eteri destroyed her back and she had to retire. Body weight/size isn't the only issue here.
@@hannibaljustincase9985 I agree. I was responding more so specifically to Dave saying how much Petrosian is going to grow would make RusFed nervous from purely an inconsistency standpoint. So I was saying even Aliona said Adelia’s height is what it’s going to be. Unless Adelia decides to grow 10 inches taller than her tiny mother.
@@Oocrs3158so she is about 16 y.o this year I presume? There’s a chance she still could grow. Many said Scherbakova would be small like her mother but she continues to grow, more after she finished with competing. Whatever drugs or strenuous training schedule could be stunting the skaters growth a bit.
Actually, at least at Mishin's school and Moskvina school every boy and girl have 5 hours/week of mandatory ballet routine choreography right from the beggining.
The way Lena described Moskvina’s approach to handling failure highlights what makes her a great coach-especially for mature skaters. Meanwhile, when an Eteri skater breaks down or fails, there’s apparently no need for a remediation plan. A psychologist? Please, who are we kidding? Eteri just moves on to the next skater, who suddenly becomes everyone’s darling thanks to the propaganda machine. Take Adelya, for example-always in Sonia’s shadow with crappy programs until Sonia hit puberty and got injured. Then, like magic, Adelya reappears as the new genius. And so on
@@LisaAllyssa don't u think about talented girls and developed sport system? I mean free skates and so on. And yes, I m sure it's ok to promote skating, cause it can stimulate children and their parents to work. Now I can see the decadence in many countries, esp in Europe. I think it is good that Russia is supporting interest. Of cuz, it depends money, now we live in capitalism. America do the same. We have many talented people, and I am frustrated that u can see only yours propaganda that we all use doping. It is ridiculous in this sport. And I think you know how many scandals are in uss and so on But I think it's strange to deny that all events are not so exciting without Russians. Sorry for mistakes
I appreciate this conversation about pairs and I respect Elena Bechke's knowledge, despite my critical comments and differences of opinion. Thanks for spending a lot of time discussing pairs. The French team Bechke referenced are Pavel & Camille Kovalev. He is from Russia and she is French. Pavel has a slim build and Camille has a voluptuous build, but she is not taller than her husband. The Kovalevs have struggled with consistency recently in large part due to injuries. Pavel is coming back from a recent surgery so they lacked sufficient training time this season. They are not a typical pair, but I find them quirky, creative, and interesting. They have obvious passion, desire and ambition for pairs skating, which is admirable. They had improved a lot in recent years, but have recently struggled with consistency, again, mostly due to injuries and rehab from surgery. I do not think the Kovalevs' overall difficulties are related to a physical mismatch necessarily. It is likely more their technical basics and lack of training time this season. I have to disagree with Bechke about size issues being an automatic problem. Some pairs teams, e.g., Cain/ LeDuc were able to make similar height work for them via emphasizing their lines and other strong points. Conti/ Macii do not seem physically mismatched to me. They are taller than the Kovalevs, but similiarly, Macii has a slim build and Sara Conti has a voluptuous build. C/M are close in height but Sara is not taller. As a team, they are competitive due to their drive and consistency, plus strong political backing. Sara is charismatic and effervescent but C/M do not project an emotional connection and they do not have great range nor transitions. Sara does not have great air positions in the lifts either and they are quite slow, yet they have good skating skills, flow, and generally good consistency despite more recent stumbles. Their program and music selection has not been very good overall, especially not in terms of setting them apart. But they get good scores apparently due to strong political backing.
Elena just said, she stopped criticizing in the kiss and cry after a skate said: do you think I did in on purpose? Which makes total sense. Every skater knows exactly what they did wrong the second they did it. But then she goes and defends Eteri doing just said. That what they say are facts and so on. But it's not like Eteris skaters gave up or made mistakes on purpose. Also, sports is politics in Russia. You can't separate as we do here in the West.
They said the same thing about Morozov and Tarasova and they almost took the gold, the same will happen to Boykova and Kozlovsky, their improvement is noticeable and their programs have been beautiful
Elena is so lovely and always give so much great insight. I think I love her even more for loving Yuma so much! Thank you for brining her back David. It is always a treat. I don't blame Russian skaters for any of the war propaganda, that is just awful but I still have concerns about the doping program but we all miss Kolyada and the pairs for sure.
@@ВячеславКоротков-е6фonly Russia as a country systematically dopes and now they taught China..Both should be banned. I do not enjoy watching cheaters.
@@ArohaStill They should ban USA too after the USADA doping scheme. They should ban them for 20+ years since they still did not return medals, and USADA manipulated doping tests.
Thank you Dave. This was unexpected, and felt like a nice Christmas gift. But please make sure you are getting some down time this holiday. Don't burn the candle from both ends. God bless.
Bechke needs to tone down the overdone bias for Galliamov. My goodness! As if he's the only male skater to have performed MJ and Elvis material! 🙄 I would be more impressed if some of the Russian pairs, and indeed other international pairs mined their own cultural hero histories to come up with creative programs, instead of constant Western cultural references. Albeit that the focus might be more on Western references next year at Worlds in Boston. However, this Western cultural dominance needs to be freshened up with exploration of other cultures, in terms of music, choreo, and heroic performance themes. I said it here first. Diversify!
US congress is the the US government. US congress is threatening WADA for trying to punish USA's USADA for doping scheme. USADA is the anti-doping for all US sports and helped them cheat and US congress (the government) is backing them so.....USA sports is 100% government
I notice a LOT of skaters only look good from the waist up and their feet/necks are a mess (like our Olympic champ). That tracks that they don't do ballet now. I don't see how you can skate without ballet. They got rid of figures, why wouldn't they have the time? 🤷♀️
Interesting observation about Zhenya-her post-Olympics season, she wasn’t exactly super petite. Now, she’s incredibly skinny at 25 and can’t jump at all. So I would not make any statements about Eteri’s skaters
@@flywings111 Zhenya said she gained about 10 lb between OG and her first event next season (cranberry cup?). But she got back into her shape by nationals.
It is possible, because she was sickly thin at Pyeongchang. She looked a lot better by autumn 2018 but then yes, she lost again some weight later. And nowadays she is again very skinny. She will always have the skinny legs too.@@LisaAllyssa
Come on now, Galliamov is not the best pairs guy ever, not even among Russian pairs! Surely Bechke remembers Sergei Grinkov; Anton Sikharulidze (now leading Rusfed); Max Trankov; Vlad Morozov; and, of course, Bechke at least remembered to give Dmitriev, and her former husband, Denis Petrov, some credit. Even Klimov was quite good during his career with Stolbova. Plus, seriously, there are other European and North American pairs guys who are right up there in the same category as 'one of the best', including: David Pelletier; Robin Szolkowy; Morgan Ciprés; Rockne Brubaker; John Zimmerman; Eric Radford; Chris Knierim; Brandon Frazier; Timothy LeDuc; Bruno Massot, who became better with Savchenko; and Mervin Tran who skated successfully with a number of partners. Tran was so good and so smooth. Con Han was very good with his partner, Wenjing Sui. Among guys who are still active competitively, give Maxime DesChamps his props! Plus, quite honestly, IMO, Danny O'Shea is one of the best pairs guys ever! Danny was also a champion junior singles skater domestically. Danny is one of the most loyal and patient pairs partners, too, along with Brandon Frazier, who stuck diligently by Haven Denney after her devastating knee injury. All of these pairs guys can give Galliamov a run for his money in so many areas of pairs expertise, not to mention in aspects of personal maturity, character, and personality!
Well, we differ in our opinions @ 313llala. And that's fine. You do not have to agree. Especially in figure skating, there's always gonna be differences of opinion regarding skating talent. Certainly, Galliamov is a good pairs guy but he's still learning and growing. He is not close to being 'the best ever' at this point! Not the best Russian pairs guy and certainly not the best ever in the world. 🙄
😂😂😂😂 of course he does remember Trankov - hysterical diva . Russians were praying he did not go into histerics in Olympics. Morozov - the inconsistent guy who could flop any time . Totally in presentable . The only time he did not - was Olympics .
I don’t understand Elena fascination with Alexandr Galliamov. Truly imo his pair element is so so, not the fastest footwork during lift, average skating skills. He’s consistent at least with jumps. Plus the diva antics he had done in the past (like calling out Loena at that one time).
I think ice dancers have a hard time skating to Bolero after T&D, but I don't see the same issue for singles or pairs picking that music. Kevin Aymoz did a good job with Bolero last year. I like Kostner's version too (the version with the 3sal as her last element). Lysacek Bolero for his 2009 SP was Ok too. Petrosian has a very odd way of holding her left hand before every jump.
Dave is our Figure Skating God! I ve allways known, that he likes drama and this cant happen without POCCIA. Their Championship wasnt as good as i hoped, but still it was a lot better then the Grand Prix final. Tutberidze in tears. She s a strict coach, but one has to be strict with students. The Beauty of the Men and Women is just amazing. It is like a cast for ……
He is not figure skating God by all means -maybe you can claim him as yours -ruzzian propagandist -that’s pretty much as high as he gets -his sick obsession with ruzzia so obvious as guess only why he is in USA 🇺🇸 cause of his gay as. 😂
The fact that Dave loves the drama and ALL scandals is his downfall. It's a pity, because his knowledge of skating is excellent, and he has interesting guests on his channel.
He is not figure skating God by all means -and not ours :maybe -yours ruzzian bot -he is obsessed with ruzzia who calls someone like him -useful idiots :sort of like tucker carlson spreading ruzzian propaganda only in figure skating -that’s all
Russians are not allowed back into competition on an international level. ISU has only allowed for a chance to participate in the qualifying competition to get a spot in Milan. Given the list of restrictions, given the fact that the 4 spots will be reviewed by ISU, IOC and god knows how many other organizations, given the fact that the neutrality status can be taken away at any point, it is such a lottery who if anyone will end up competing in 2026 olympics.
Why this conceit by Bechke that Mishina/ Galliamov are a lock for an OGM!? I get this adoration of Moskvina, but M/G are not the best at everything just because they are seen as Russia's best. Plus, M/G have to be accepted by the ISU committee as neutral athletes if/ when Rusfed selects them. None of that should be considered a slam dunk. BTW, Dave, you said Hase/Volodin do not have speed. IMO, Miura/Kihara are the fastest team at the top. Conti/Maci are glacially slow but have good flow over the ice. Hase/Volodin have decent speed, absolutely comparable with Mishina/Galliamov who have somewhat labored crossovers. Deanna/Max also have decent speed fairly comparable to M/G, who are not as fast as you seem to think they are.
M/G were WR holders and arguably biggest contenders for gold at the last Olympics already and how did it end. IMO no Russian skater will be scored highly, even if they'd send Petrosian with all her quads she'll get +1 GOEs maybe and 6.5/7 PCS
The channel one cup wasn’t just aired by channel one it was funded and created by channel one. Channel one is under sanctions for its pro war activity! No skater who ever appeared in channel one cup will be accepted! Everyone in Russia knows that’s pro war. That it campaigns for war!
@@hannibaljustincase9985 M/G are obviously technically brilliant and a very classic looking Russian pair. Moskvina helped give them direction, wonderful choreo and confidence in their abilities. Judges often tend to overdo scoring for Russian teams, especially on PCS. M/G do not yet connect that well emotionally, which takes time to develop. For the 2021-22 Olympic season, Moskvina did not choose the best music and program themes for M/G, plus they were up against the favored Sui/Han in Beijing, and a rejuvenated Tarasova/ Morosov. So what about M/G's WR stat. While they are very good technically, I do not think M/G or B/K and certainly not Peng/Jin were overall better than Knierim/ Frazier at the 2022 Olympics. It was just politics and perception that kept perfect performances by K/F down in 6th place. That's politically-biased figure skating judging.
It's interesting that Bechke is saying don't act as if you think you're the best like she feels Dmitri K does. That's good advice, except many Russians do not follow that advice. So many of them feel they are better than other non-Russian skaters, even if they don't display it in the same way as Dmitri K. It is that pervasive and persistent Russian arrogance that definitely needs to be toned down. I do not fault Dmitri K that much because it seems genuinely about him desiring and striving to be better in a very outgoing, joyful, competitive way. Whereas I believe Mishina/Galliamov are more quiet and subtly defensive in their underlying arrogance and feeling of superiority, especially after being taken under Moskvina's wing and instilled with huge confidence. Moskvina is also responsible for making Boikova/ Koslovski champions with belief in themselves. B/K, IMO, have understandably been unwilling to cede that mantle to M/G. Perhaps B/K should have trusted Moskvina more. But it was obviously a difficult burden for B/K to see their rising pairs dominance both domestically and internationally usurped by M/G. I feel that M/G, while technically brilliant, are not that great artistically. They do not connect emotionally in the way that B/K do. They are not risk-takers in the way that B/K are, and they do not project to the audience as well as B/K. Of course, B/K have some aesthetic weaknesses that Moskvina was able to camouflage, but I appreciate B/K 's bold intensity and their more outgoing personalities. I can admire M/G's tech brilliance, but I think they move slow over the ice, and I think most of their programs have not been very good. Mainly just the programs that won them their first World championships. I realize that M/G are favored by Rusfed and Bechke because they are Moskvina's prize pair, but I'd rather see B/K or one of the younger teams get the neutrality call to compete in the Beijing qualifier. Galliamov is NOT neutral politically. The protest by Ukrainian athletes should be given some respect, Dave, instead of this chief p.r. push for Russian athletes.
Totally different systems, why do you even compare them? Russia doesn't need to be like the USA and vice versa. I hope Americans realise the world doesn't revolve around them and it's fine if things in Russia or other countries work differently.
Trent Michaud desperately needs a petite partner. He is such a strong professional guy but he always has these physically miss-matched girls skating with him.
@renunit1503 Trennt & Lia Pereira are well-matched physically. At the moment, they are struggling to find confidence, consistency, and material with spark that can set them apart. Plus, Trennt is not getting any younger. Figure skating is hard, and pairs is the toughest discipline.
@renunit1503 Lia Pereira is a petite partner, well-suited to Trennt physically. They just need more time ironing things out and finding material to define and enhance their partnership, which ain't easy. Evelyn Walsh was not a great physical match for Trennt, but they worked well together, and they had a palpable connection because their personalities jibed well, and they enjoyed skating together. Trennt & Evelyn skated in juniors and seniors without too much intense pressure. As seniors, they were able to rise quickly when other Canadian pairs ahead of them ran into injury issues. At a certain point, Trennt/ Evelyn's abilities peaked as a team. While they improved their twist, their elements lacked the power and punch needed to help them go far. With Lia, who is a better physical match, the jury is still out as to how far they can go in the current pairs field, which is heating up with hungry new teams. Fellow Canadians, Mimar/ Bombardier are looking very good in their international debut performances.
Can somebody please tell Bechke that the criteria is not who won 2024 Russian Nationals, and not who is the more consistent Russian pair. Each selected Russian athlete has to be chosen largely on the basis of proven political neutraility, which is problematic for the two top Russian pairs teams, and especially for Galliamov. I hope the ISU committee who reviews the chosen athletes will not succumb to p.r. or political pressure to accept Mishina/Galliamov as neutral athletes. I know the Russians think they deserve to win the OGM all the time in pairs, and they expect and desire this anointing to happen for M/G. I do not want to see that happen after all the hard work by so many current pairs athletes battling over this recent quad. It is much more interesting to see a diverse battle for Olympic gold in pairs rather than the arrogant conceit that Russian pairs skaters (i.e., M/G) should automatically be rewarded with Olympic gold. 🙄 In any case, there are a number of Russian pairs skaters who rep other countries and thus numerous Russians, including coaches, have continued to be highly visible in the sport despite the ban against those with no other options than representing Russia.
You don’t have to worry. All the big name Russian skaters are completely ineligible because they were all in the channel one cup. Channel one is under sanctions for its pro war activity and all skaters in Russia know channel one is pro war and to be on channel one is supporting the war.
Chasing points is more objective than the subjective “I THINK that is pretty”. Your personal preference should not influence which is the better the better athlete performing the hardest skills and pushing the sport
37:05 - You can’t jump without skating skills? Sure, go watch the new Russian champion. 😂😂😂 I’ve never seen a knee refuse to bend this much. I feel like turning into Daenerys Targaryen and screaming: Bend the knee! 😂😂😂
Well, now we are waiting for Oksana Baiul or Nazarova and Nikitin to discuss the return of the Russians. Or are we not waiting? Because this channel has turned into a mouthpiece of Russian propaganda.
У вас нет ни одного фигуриста,который бы смог кататься как наши . Тутберидзе-поекрасный тренер! Ваша злоба и зависть показывает,что русские фигуристы лучшие.
@ to make my comments -who are you to tell me anything?it’s not ruzzia -and it’s not your channel -Dave can block me anytime if he chooses so -I won’t cry :promise 😂
@@ingai7014 I just don't understand why someone would use their time and energy to seek out channels, videos and people they don't like just to leave negative comments that end up helping the algorithm anyway. It's not a good look for you...
Russia is expanding its border and this all started because Russia invaded Ukraine. This conflict needs to end, but Russia is not innocent here. They started it.
The Russian Championship is a real World Championship, because the strongest skaters in the world participate in it. If we compare the results of the Russian Championship with the results of the ISU GP final, then Russian athletes would practically occupy the entire GP podium with their results. Only in the dances would Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES win, and Malinin would be second in the men's competition, everywhere else the Russian advantage is obvious. - the entire remaining podium would be Russian. with a big advantage. For example, the GP winner Amber Glen with her result in the Russian Championship would be only NINTH.
😂:Malinin would be second ?Next to whom ?ruzzian National judged by locals clowns who gave scores to their skaters higher that Chen/Hanyu/Shoma combined -there is reason why thier judges were kicked out of all figure skating disciplines before Olympic-the only place they might have shot is -pair skating -that’s all :not even in ladies event -so get it real
Domestic competition scores and international competition scores are not comparable lol. In domestic competitions, juries are not strict and total scores are 10-15 points higher than what they should be. There is a reason why scores obtained from domestic competitions are not accepted as personal best scores
@@ingai7014 Not true. The Russian local judges are pretty fair. They might inflate the PCS scores, but they are very strict technically. Malinin might not have been second, but Glenn would never have won the Russian Championships. She would have been 9th as the poster said, if we push down the Russian PCS scoring she would have been 7th at best. The top five-six Russian girls would have been impossible for Amber to catch.
The rules for the russian entries for the olympics will be overturned by CAS IMO, In particular, they effectively, unlawfully extend the ban of Valieva, and they also bring in additional punitive measures for her being found with a banned substance in her urine, in forcing her to be effectively shunned by other members of the Russian skating establishment. Both are an overreach, and grossly inappropriate, especially the latter which is the ISU bullying a woman who is just out of her minority. I think Russia will appeal via Valieva to Cas and the ISU will have their assses handed to them on a plate, especially having read the CAS verdict on the Valieva appeal, which was very clear cut and well arrived at.
Dave, you should start a campaign to get Tuktamysheva back to the competition by sending her hand painted miniature portraits of her (and maybe some gift baskets).
Absolutely! We need this campaign!
Delusional Liza fans.
I miss Kolyada in Russian men’s skating… his skating skills and jumping technique was just soothing to the soul 😌
I know!!! Russian pairs are an after though for me. Kolyada was the real loss with the ban. Such a pure skater and technician.
@@riveroak-dp8gt always crooked same landings
He is a good commentator, he was under so much pressure, seems like he is having much better life balance now
Kolyada was so wonderful to watch. He was a true artist on ice with gorgeous technique. But he never managed to fully overcome his competition nerves and hiccoughs. If only he'd been able to get the help with mental counseling and well-paced choreography, that has done wonders for Amber Glenn's confidence!
@@LindyMia-ft9md I don`t have any words for how much I miss him .... not only as a skater, but as a person.A cool, very smart guy with a good sense of humor. And a brilliant skater- he was the one who inpired me to work more on my skating skills and to finally learn rockers, counters, brackets and loops at the age of almost 50 years. His flying sit spin is still unmatched and he will be the white crow for EVER ! 🙂
Maya and Elena in such a short space of time! Thank you Dave for these two great videos. Happy Christmas!
Always love when you have Maya and Elena back on. We’ve been spoiled and treated in the midst of “mixed bag” holidays for some. We love you Dave, Jonathan, Alyssa, Nolan and happy holiday❤🎄🎅
really enjoyed this interview. i find it hilarious how Dave asks “Eteri…?” and Elena answers “Tamara…”
Dave thank you so much for all your work - thank you for Elena - her insight and enthusiasm is just wonderful. Wishing all of you at TSL a happy peaceful relaxing holiday period. I hope you realise how much you are appreciated.
Amazing I absolutely love Elena I think she is 100% correct in her words of crossovers and stroking skating skills My students think they are boring too but Nothing is worse than a skater doing a great jump and then beginner crossovers it’s awful just awful.Thankyou Elena I would love to teach with her amazing Happy Chanakuh and Happy New Year !!
Because I give credit where credit is due, I really enjoyed this interview and I appreciate how you let Elena talk and didn't interrupt her.
You are very obsessive about the interrupting. In the other show, it was very critical to challenge Maya and she has a way of talking over me as well. What you are not understanding is that in today's landscape with social media, there are certain things that she can say/can't say --and there are always things that I cannot let go unchecked. These episodes about Russia are very tricky. There are people who watch who will be Pro-Russia, Anti-Russia, etc. I am trying to provide an even discussion of the skating. The reality of the situation is that there is skating occurring in Russia and they will likely be back. There is also the context of doping and war. To let anything go risks a social media firestorm and has to be handled in advance.
@@TheSkatingLesson The Maya video was literally the first time I ever posted about the interrupting, so no, I am definitely not "obsessive". Lots of people point it out, so I'm not sure why you're attacking me in particular when I went out of my way to pay you a compliment. However, I do understand what you are saying here and I appreciate that you clarified. As I understand, you are saying that there were certain things you were afraid she'd say and you wanted to nip it in the bud.
@@TheSkatingLesson I really enjoy Maya and I am glad you brought up the more important doping issue that is still what bothers most people who love the sport and want fair competition. We are not inherently anti-Russian. I actually blame western aggression for this conflict, so I appreciated you didn't let that one go. Would love to know if the ISU or IOC has ever answered why they do not adopt such anti-doping measures, is it just cost?
Thank you for pointing out so calmly. I agree give credit where it is due and I have posted a lot of positive comments for TSL but sometimes it feels like the smallest comment flips DL out , I am quite surprised how targeted his comment was. @@Rachel-rs7jn
Kostornaia recently said the exact thing that Elena Betchke said that Adelia is just always going to be small. Kosto said she used to see Petrosian’s mom all the time and that Adelia is already the size of her mother and they’re both lucky in that regard that they don’t have to face the same kind of growth during puberty like most female skaters do. Adelia already grew so much the past 2 seasons so I don’t think RusFed will be concerned about that. Also one of Russia’s main figure skating journalists said he heard that RusFed really likes Dikidzhi for the future. I really want to see Kaganovskaia/Nekrasov at the qualifier.
@@Oocrs3158 Tursynbaeva was a tiny young woman post puberty and ONE season training quads under Eteri destroyed her back and she had to retire. Body weight/size isn't the only issue here.
@@hannibaljustincase9985 I agree. I was responding more so specifically to Dave saying how much Petrosian is going to grow would make RusFed nervous from purely an inconsistency standpoint. So I was saying even Aliona said Adelia’s height is what it’s going to be. Unless Adelia decides to grow 10 inches taller than her tiny mother.
@@Oocrs3158so she is about 16 y.o this year I presume? There’s a chance she still could grow. Many said Scherbakova would be small like her mother but she continues to grow, more after she finished with competing. Whatever drugs or strenuous training schedule could be stunting the skaters growth a bit.
@@yohanes2034Anya doesn't continue to grow) She is at the same height as in 2022
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Elena is fabulous, thank you for having her on - and letting her speak.
Actually, at least at Mishin's school and Moskvina school every boy and girl have 5 hours/week of mandatory ballet routine choreography right from the beggining.
They all post ballet videos on Telegram. All of them are doing ballet
Obviously it's not working
@savanahbabyyyy look at Agatha Petrova and you will see how it works
@@jurybounackoff3025 her feet are nice but her arms are disgusting. Ballet does not have bent arms like Agatha
@@jurybounackoff3025 Ballet has beautiful extended arms Agatha's are the opposite. Even ballet cannot save them.
The way Lena described Moskvina’s approach to handling failure highlights what makes her a great coach-especially for mature skaters. Meanwhile, when an Eteri skater breaks down or fails, there’s apparently no need for a remediation plan. A psychologist? Please, who are we kidding? Eteri just moves on to the next skater, who suddenly becomes everyone’s darling thanks to the propaganda machine. Take Adelya, for example-always in Sonia’s shadow with crappy programs until Sonia hit puberty and got injured. Then, like magic, Adelya reappears as the new genius. And so on
@@LisaAllyssa don't u think about talented girls and developed sport system? I mean free skates and so on. And yes, I m sure it's ok to promote skating, cause it can stimulate children and their parents to work. Now I can see the decadence in many countries, esp in Europe. I think it is good that Russia is supporting interest. Of cuz, it depends money, now we live in capitalism. America do the same. We have many talented people, and I am frustrated that u can see only yours propaganda that we all use doping. It is ridiculous in this sport. And I think you know how many scandals are in uss and so on
But I think it's strange to deny that all events are not so exciting without Russians. Sorry for mistakes
I’m so curious what Moskvina would do if she were Kostornaia & Kunitza’s coach!!!! I’m sure she has many ways to encourage respectful communication.
No one can save anyone from Kostornaia's rotten mouth
She also curses at coaches. She did it to Trankov since she was 15 and has never stopped. She is the queen of being disrespectful
Petrosian was on fire this weekend. I hope the ISU (&IOC) let us see that matchup against the other international girls
Petrosian has skated in competitions funded by and aired on sanctioned pro war companies and media! She’s not eligible.
Where did you watch it from?
@@Oocrs3158 so cool to hear your voice) I really think Russia should participate
She was fire but Dave thinks puberty will kill her
I appreciate this conversation about pairs and I respect Elena Bechke's knowledge, despite my critical comments and differences of opinion. Thanks for spending a lot of time discussing pairs. The French team Bechke referenced are Pavel & Camille Kovalev. He is from Russia and she is French. Pavel has a slim build and Camille has a voluptuous build, but she is not taller than her husband. The Kovalevs have struggled with consistency recently in large part due to injuries. Pavel is coming back from a recent surgery so they lacked sufficient training time this season. They are not a typical pair, but I find them quirky, creative, and interesting. They have obvious passion, desire and ambition for pairs skating, which is admirable. They had improved a lot in recent years, but have recently struggled with consistency, again, mostly due to injuries and rehab from surgery. I do not think the Kovalevs' overall difficulties are related to a physical mismatch necessarily. It is likely more their technical basics and lack of training time this season. I have to disagree with Bechke about size issues being an automatic problem. Some pairs teams, e.g., Cain/ LeDuc were able to make similar height work for them via emphasizing their lines and other strong points. Conti/ Macii do not seem physically mismatched to me. They are taller than the Kovalevs, but similiarly, Macii has a slim build and Sara Conti has a voluptuous build. C/M are close in height but Sara is not taller. As a team, they are competitive due to their drive and consistency, plus strong political backing. Sara is charismatic and effervescent but C/M do not project an emotional connection and they do not have great range nor transitions. Sara does not have great air positions in the lifts either and they are quite slow, yet they have good skating skills, flow, and generally good consistency despite more recent stumbles. Their program and music selection has not been very good overall, especially not in terms of setting them apart. But they get good scores apparently due to strong political backing.
Elena is a wonderful guest. I hope you’ll have her back after Worlds!
Really good episode, you guys are awesome ❤
Can we hope that Adelia Petrosyan will be able to represent Russia at the 2026 Winter Olympics?
Elena just said, she stopped criticizing in the kiss and cry after a skate said: do you think I did in on purpose? Which makes total sense. Every skater knows exactly what they did wrong the second they did it. But then she goes and defends Eteri doing just said. That what they say are facts and so on. But it's not like Eteris skaters gave up or made mistakes on purpose.
Also, sports is politics in Russia. You can't separate as we do here in the West.
Lots of pairs analysis. Loved it! Thank you so much!
Great! Something for me to watch during the festive week!
Alina Gorbacheva is a stunning skater
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I thought Elena said it well, “even though we will be neutral, we all know the names and where they are from.” 😳
i always enjoys interviews with Elena. great insight on a tough discipline like pairs.
Ladies talk starts at 53:04
In my opinion Khavronina and Narizhniy were really great. They should have been at least second
There is a queue in ice dance. Fake sport
Thanks so much to Elena for her insight! I always think of she & Denis when I hear Led Zeppelin “Whole Lotta Love”. One of my all-time faves.
Love when Elena is on! ❤
Good interview!
Always a pleasure to see the beautiful Elena… would you invite Natalia Mishkutenok sometime?
They said the same thing about Morozov and Tarasova and they almost took the gold, the same will happen to Boykova and Kozlovsky, their improvement is noticeable and their programs have been beautiful
Elena is so lovely and always give so much great insight. I think I love her even more for loving Yuma so much! Thank you for brining her back David. It is always a treat. I don't blame Russian skaters for any of the war propaganda, that is just awful but I still have concerns about the doping program but we all miss Kolyada and the pairs for sure.
@@ArohaStill I am sure u understand that all "doping program" In figure skating is just a circus
@@ВячеславКоротков-е6фa Circus yes, because Russia cant do clean Sports and laughs about rules
@@ВячеславКоротков-е6фonly Russia as a country systematically dopes and now they taught China..Both should be banned. I do not enjoy watching cheaters.
@@ArohaStill They should ban USA too after the USADA doping scheme. They should ban them for 20+ years since they still did not return medals, and USADA manipulated doping tests.
@@savanahbabyyyy the USA fors not systemically dope, go away
Elena said it perfectly. They're neutral but we still know where they came from. They shouldn't be back allowed
Thank you Dave. This was unexpected, and felt like a nice Christmas gift. But please make sure you are getting some down time this holiday. Don't burn the candle from both ends. God bless.
Thanks! I appreciate you.
her saying galliamov is the greatest male pairs skater in history makes zero sense
Actually it makes perfect sense . And yes, he is the best
Who do you think is better than him
Bechke needs to tone down the overdone bias for Galliamov. My goodness! As if he's the only male skater to have performed MJ and Elvis material! 🙄 I would be more impressed if some of the Russian pairs, and indeed other international pairs mined their own cultural hero histories to come up with creative programs, instead of constant Western cultural references. Albeit that the focus might be more on Western references next year at Worlds in Boston. However, this Western cultural dominance needs to be freshened up with exploration of other cultures, in terms of music, choreo, and heroic performance themes. I said it here first. Diversify!
If I have to choose between M/G or B/K I’d choose the later one most of the time.
Elena is wrong. Sports in russia is about politics. Figure skaters supported the war openly.
Which current figure skater has supported the war openly?
Sarasota and morozov as well as katsalapov with his partner were among other athletes on the stage celebrating the invasion into Ukraine
Tarasova
Sports in USA is about Politics. USADA is still not punished for the doping scandal and tied to Congress
US congress is the the US government. US congress is threatening WADA for trying to punish USA's USADA for doping scheme. USADA is the anti-doping for all US sports and helped them cheat and US congress (the government) is backing them so.....USA sports is 100% government
I was rooting for Akateva
Same; I much preferred her over Petrosian
@@rywilk конечно, вы всегда предпочитаете тех русских, которые выиграть не смогут.
She has become worthless.
Even ruined Muravieva beats Akateva
@@savanahbabyyyy как говорят в России - грибами Плющенко.
I notice a LOT of skaters only look good from the waist up and their feet/necks are a mess (like our Olympic champ). That tracks that they don't do ballet now. I don't see how you can skate without ballet. They got rid of figures, why wouldn't they have the time? 🤷♀️
This “our olympic champ” is men or women ogm?
their feet and neck? Weirdo you like necks??????
Interesting observation about Zhenya-her post-Olympics season, she wasn’t exactly super petite. Now, she’s incredibly skinny at 25 and can’t jump at all. So I would not make any statements about Eteri’s skaters
Zhenya gorged herself in Canada 😂
@ of course and this is where she destroyed her back. And learned her flutz 😂😂😂
She was still very skinny in Canada, look at her legs and arms, they were as skinny as always. She got a tiny bit rounder in the hip but that's fine.
@@flywings111 Zhenya said she gained about 10 lb between OG and her first event next season (cranberry cup?). But she got back into her shape by nationals.
It is possible, because she was sickly thin at Pyeongchang. She looked a lot better by autumn 2018 but then yes, she lost again some weight later. And nowadays she is again very skinny. She will always have the skinny legs too.@@LisaAllyssa
Come on now, Galliamov is not the best pairs guy ever, not even among Russian pairs! Surely Bechke remembers Sergei Grinkov; Anton Sikharulidze (now leading Rusfed); Max Trankov; Vlad Morozov; and, of course, Bechke at least remembered to give Dmitriev, and her former husband, Denis Petrov, some credit. Even Klimov was quite good during his career with Stolbova. Plus, seriously, there are other European and North American pairs guys who are right up there in the same category as 'one of the best', including: David Pelletier; Robin Szolkowy; Morgan Ciprés; Rockne Brubaker; John Zimmerman; Eric Radford; Chris Knierim; Brandon Frazier; Timothy LeDuc; Bruno Massot, who became better with Savchenko; and Mervin Tran who skated successfully with a number of partners. Tran was so good and so smooth. Con Han was very good with his partner, Wenjing Sui. Among guys who are still active competitively, give Maxime DesChamps his props! Plus, quite honestly, IMO, Danny O'Shea is one of the best pairs guys ever! Danny was also a champion junior singles skater domestically. Danny is one of the most loyal and patient pairs partners, too, along with Brandon Frazier, who stuck diligently by Haven Denney after her devastating knee injury. All of these pairs guys can give Galliamov a run for his money in so many areas of pairs expertise, not to mention in aspects of personal maturity, character, and personality!
Aside from Pelletier, I would not put any of those N. American men you listed among "one of the best".
Well, we differ in our opinions @ 313llala. And that's fine. You do not have to agree. Especially in figure skating, there's always gonna be differences of opinion regarding skating talent. Certainly, Galliamov is a good pairs guy but he's still learning and growing. He is not close to being 'the best ever' at this point! Not the best Russian pairs guy and certainly not the best ever in the world. 🙄
😂😂😂😂 of course he does remember
Trankov - hysterical diva . Russians were praying he did not go into histerics in Olympics.
Morozov - the inconsistent guy who could flop any time . Totally in presentable . The only time he did not - was Olympics .
Well said difficulty with elegance- sooo true. That's what l want to see.
Where to watch Russian nationals?
I could only find snippets on twitter feeds, I would also be interested as to where to find the full stream
On the website of Russia's Channel 1. If access is restricted in your country, use a VPN extension.
Rutube or Channel One (need vpn)
Thanks to Bechke for her very true and complimentary words about Danny and Ellie. I totally agree with her assessment of Kam/ O'Shea. 👍
I don’t understand Elena fascination with Alexandr Galliamov. Truly imo his pair element is so so, not the fastest footwork during lift, average skating skills. He’s consistent at least with jumps. Plus the diva antics he had done in the past (like calling out Loena at that one time).
He is a great partner . Very stable, supportive . And he looks great on ice . At least he is present unlike Kozlovski, moronic etc
I think ice dancers have a hard time skating to Bolero after T&D, but I don't see the same issue for singles or pairs picking that music. Kevin Aymoz did a good job with Bolero last year. I like Kostner's version too (the version with the 3sal as her last element). Lysacek Bolero for his 2009 SP was Ok too.
Petrosian has a very odd way of holding her left hand before every jump.
Podemos ter a esperança de que a Adelia Petrosyan poderá representar a Rússia nas Olimpíadas de Inverno de 2026?
Dave is our Figure Skating God! I ve allways known, that he likes drama and this cant happen without POCCIA. Their Championship wasnt as good as i hoped, but still it was a lot better then the Grand Prix final. Tutberidze in tears. She s a strict coach, but one has to be strict with students. The Beauty of the Men and Women is just amazing. It is like a cast for ……
He is not figure skating God by all means -maybe you can claim him as yours -ruzzian propagandist -that’s pretty much as high as he gets -his sick obsession with ruzzia so obvious as guess only why he is in USA 🇺🇸 cause of his gay as. 😂
The fact that Dave loves the drama and ALL scandals is his downfall. It's a pity, because his knowledge of skating is excellent, and he has interesting guests on his channel.
@@Jontor11I love the drama he brings to it all ❤
@kerryperryman3025 🤣 And that is exactly why figure skating is not popular. People doesn't take it seriously if you focus on the drama and scandals...
He is not figure skating God by all means -and not ours :maybe -yours ruzzian bot -he is obsessed with ruzzia who calls someone like him -useful idiots :sort of like tucker carlson spreading ruzzian propaganda only in figure skating -that’s all
Russians are not allowed back into competition on an international level. ISU has only allowed for a chance to participate in the qualifying competition to get a spot in Milan. Given the list of restrictions, given the fact that the 4 spots will be reviewed by ISU, IOC and god knows how many other organizations, given the fact that the neutrality status can be taken away at any point, it is such a lottery who if anyone will end up competing in 2026 olympics.
Why this conceit by Bechke that Mishina/ Galliamov are a lock for an OGM!? I get this adoration of Moskvina, but M/G are not the best at everything just because they are seen as Russia's best. Plus, M/G have to be accepted by the ISU committee as neutral athletes if/ when Rusfed selects them. None of that should be considered a slam dunk. BTW, Dave, you said Hase/Volodin do not have speed. IMO, Miura/Kihara are the fastest team at the top. Conti/Maci are glacially slow but have good flow over the ice. Hase/Volodin have decent speed, absolutely comparable with Mishina/Galliamov who have somewhat labored crossovers. Deanna/Max also have decent speed fairly comparable to M/G, who are not as fast as you seem to think they are.
M/G were WR holders and arguably biggest contenders for gold at the last Olympics already and how did it end. IMO no Russian skater will be scored highly, even if they'd send Petrosian with all her quads she'll get +1 GOEs maybe and 6.5/7 PCS
The channel one cup wasn’t just aired by channel one it was funded and created by channel one. Channel one is under sanctions for its pro war activity! No skater who ever appeared in channel one cup will be accepted! Everyone in Russia knows that’s pro war. That it campaigns for war!
@@hannibaljustincase9985 M/G are obviously technically brilliant and a very classic looking Russian pair. Moskvina helped give them direction, wonderful choreo and confidence in their abilities. Judges often tend to overdo scoring for Russian teams, especially on PCS. M/G do not yet connect that well emotionally, which takes time to develop. For the 2021-22 Olympic season, Moskvina did not choose the best music and program themes for M/G, plus they were up against the favored Sui/Han in Beijing, and a rejuvenated Tarasova/ Morosov. So what about M/G's WR stat. While they are very good technically, I do not think M/G or B/K and certainly not Peng/Jin were overall better than Knierim/ Frazier at the 2022 Olympics. It was just politics and perception that kept perfect performances by K/F down in 6th place. That's politically-biased figure skating judging.
@@LindyMia-ft9mdnever happened but ok.
G/M won’t be accepted by IOC/ISU. Support for Putin (documented) rules them out. Period.
It's interesting that Bechke is saying don't act as if you think you're the best like she feels Dmitri K does. That's good advice, except many Russians do not follow that advice. So many of them feel they are better than other non-Russian skaters, even if they don't display it in the same way as Dmitri K. It is that pervasive and persistent Russian arrogance that definitely needs to be toned down. I do not fault Dmitri K that much because it seems genuinely about him desiring and striving to be better in a very outgoing, joyful, competitive way. Whereas I believe Mishina/Galliamov are more quiet and subtly defensive in their underlying arrogance and feeling of superiority, especially after being taken under Moskvina's wing and instilled with huge confidence. Moskvina is also responsible for making Boikova/ Koslovski champions with belief in themselves. B/K, IMO, have understandably been unwilling to cede that mantle to M/G. Perhaps B/K should have trusted Moskvina more. But it was obviously a difficult burden for B/K to see their rising pairs dominance both domestically and internationally usurped by M/G. I feel that M/G, while technically brilliant, are not that great artistically. They do not connect emotionally in the way that B/K do. They are not risk-takers in the way that B/K are, and they do not project to the audience as well as B/K. Of course, B/K have some aesthetic weaknesses that Moskvina was able to camouflage, but I appreciate B/K 's bold intensity and their more outgoing personalities. I can admire M/G's tech brilliance, but I think they move slow over the ice, and I think most of their programs have not been very good. Mainly just the programs that won them their first World championships. I realize that M/G are favored by Rusfed and Bechke because they are Moskvina's prize pair, but I'd rather see B/K or one of the younger teams get the neutrality call to compete in the Beijing qualifier. Galliamov is NOT neutral politically. The protest by Ukrainian athletes should be given some respect, Dave, instead of this chief p.r. push for Russian athletes.
I agree with your assessment of the two teams.
Hilarious . They do project to the audience . Both their programs this year are for the audience 😂😂😂
@skatinglesson are you cheating on Maya for not doing a. Russian nats review episode with her.
In the US you don’t HAVE to go to the White House after the Olympics. You are free to skip it
In Russia you don’t have to, you earn the honour if you medal
Totally different systems, why do you even compare them? Russia doesn't need to be like the USA and vice versa. I hope Americans realise the world doesn't revolve around them and it's fine if things in Russia or other countries work differently.
@ I found a Russian troll/bot.
@@82gioccia I found another Russian troll/bot
So , still tonnes of people go and communicate with war criminals in White House
shes knowledgable vut very biased
Loved hearing your opinions
Medvedeva,Tuktamicheva,Michin coach.
Trent Michaud desperately needs a petite partner. He is such a strong professional guy but he always has these physically miss-matched girls skating with him.
@renunit1503 Trennt & Lia Pereira are well-matched physically. At the moment, they are struggling to find confidence, consistency, and material with spark that can set them apart. Plus, Trennt is not getting any younger. Figure skating is hard, and pairs is the toughest discipline.
@renunit1503 Lia Pereira is a petite partner, well-suited to Trennt physically. They just need more time ironing things out and finding material to define and enhance their partnership, which ain't easy. Evelyn Walsh was not a great physical match for Trennt, but they worked well together, and they had a palpable connection because their personalities jibed well, and they enjoyed skating together. Trennt & Evelyn skated in juniors and seniors without too much intense pressure. As seniors, they were able to rise quickly when other Canadian pairs ahead of them ran into injury issues. At a certain point, Trennt/ Evelyn's abilities peaked as a team. While they improved their twist, their elements lacked the power and punch needed to help them go far. With Lia, who is a better physical match, the jury is still out as to how far they can go in the current pairs field, which is heating up with hungry new teams. Fellow Canadians, Mimar/ Bombardier are looking very good in their international debut performances.
Can somebody please tell Bechke that the criteria is not who won 2024 Russian Nationals, and not who is the more consistent Russian pair. Each selected Russian athlete has to be chosen largely on the basis of proven political neutraility, which is problematic for the two top Russian pairs teams, and especially for Galliamov. I hope the ISU committee who reviews the chosen athletes will not succumb to p.r. or political pressure to accept Mishina/Galliamov as neutral athletes. I know the Russians think they deserve to win the OGM all the time in pairs, and they expect and desire this anointing to happen for M/G. I do not want to see that happen after all the hard work by so many current pairs athletes battling over this recent quad. It is much more interesting to see a diverse battle for Olympic gold in pairs rather than the arrogant conceit that Russian pairs skaters (i.e., M/G) should automatically be rewarded with Olympic gold. 🙄 In any case, there are a number of Russian pairs skaters who rep other countries and thus numerous Russians, including coaches, have continued to be highly visible in the sport despite the ban against those with no other options than representing Russia.
You don’t have to worry. All the big name Russian skaters are completely ineligible because they were all in the channel one cup. Channel one is under sanctions for its pro war activity and all skaters in Russia know channel one is pro war and to be on channel one is supporting the war.
Adelia won't stay this way! I don't know what Elena is talking about.
Her mom's tiny and Adeliia is the same size as her mom.
Both Adeliia and Her mother have dwarfism. What are you talking about? lol
@@savanahbabyyyy Looks like you don't even know what dwarfism is.
@@EvgeniaKostiaeva She is tiny like a dwarf like a leprechaun and so is her mama. Therefor she has dwarfism to me
@@savanahbabyyyydwarfism? I don’t think she will grow much more if at all but petite women are a distinct thing from that. WOW
Chasing points is more objective than the subjective “I THINK that is pretty”. Your personal preference should not influence which is the better the better athlete performing the hardest skills and pushing the sport
i had zero interest in Russian nats, but I'm always here for an Elena recap!
its called russian phobia. are you a racist? serena could start at the olympics, though america had a war in irak (contrary to international law)
@@d.trance6637ruzzian bot lost direction-our athletes don’t support wars
I’m the same I cannot get into dance couples either.
It's a fake sport. Ice dance is fake
37:05 - You can’t jump without skating skills? Sure, go watch the new Russian champion. 😂😂😂 I’ve never seen a knee refuse to bend this much. I feel like turning into Daenerys Targaryen and screaming: Bend the knee! 😂😂😂
You are slow. You can't jump without skating skills. A loop jump take off imitates a loop turn which is skating skills. So dumb
So dumb
So dumb
You can't land on a straight knee...so dumb
so dumb
In all honesty G&M can easily win the olympics
Матушка земля , белая березанька , для меня Святая Русь , а для вас занозанька !😅
Well, now we are waiting for Oksana Baiul or Nazarova and Nikitin to discuss the return of the Russians.
Or are we not waiting? Because this channel has turned into a mouthpiece of Russian propaganda.
Cry about it
@@natalie_lucky Schweinehund
not now that their content is getting interesting
У вас нет ни одного фигуриста,который бы смог кататься как наши . Тутберидзе-поекрасный тренер! Ваша злоба и зависть показывает,что русские фигуристы лучшие.
И это комментарий под тем выпуском, где говорили только о том, как прекрасны российские фигуристы. Может надо попробовать выучить английский?
Один Малинин уделает всю вашу мужскую сборную
Вы видео вообще смотрели?? Они только и говорят, какие у нас хорошие фигуристы. Злобу и зависть ищите в себе
Mao shimada exists and that Sofia Von girl
@@LinaMalkova Maybe Dzikidi will kill Malinin. Dziki jumped 4A
Russia 🇷🇺
Now it is interesting
Yeah, we all missed doped and abused underweight girls.
It’s not -same o
@@ingai7014 You have made numerous negative comments on this video, so I'm just wondering why you are here?
@ to make my comments -who are you to tell me anything?it’s not ruzzia -and it’s not your channel -Dave can block me anytime if he chooses so -I won’t cry :promise 😂
@@ingai7014 I just don't understand why someone would use their time and energy to seek out channels, videos and people they don't like just to leave negative comments that end up helping the algorithm anyway. It's not a good look for you...
As an American I support Russia. Soviets lost 25M in WW2. After Napoleon, after Hitler they want the west off their border. This is reasonable.
“American”. Ha ha
Russia is expanding its border and this all started because Russia invaded Ukraine. This conflict needs to end, but Russia is not innocent here. They started it.
@ Not understanding your point. We should respect Russia’s need to
Protect its people.
@ “protect”. 🤣🤣🤣
@ Do you think it is funny that they loss 25M people? Only 90 years ago. Walk us through where Russia is causing problems around the world.
The Russian Championship is a real World Championship, because the strongest skaters in the world participate in it. If we compare the results of the Russian Championship with the results of the ISU GP final, then Russian athletes would practically occupy the entire GP podium with their results. Only in the dances would Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES win, and Malinin would be second in the men's competition, everywhere else the Russian advantage is obvious. - the entire remaining podium would be Russian. with a big advantage. For example, the GP winner Amber Glen with her result in the Russian Championship would be only NINTH.
😂:Malinin would be second ?Next to whom ?ruzzian National judged by locals clowns who gave scores to their skaters higher that Chen/Hanyu/Shoma combined -there is reason why thier judges were kicked out of all figure skating disciplines before Olympic-the only place they might have shot is -pair skating -that’s all :not even in ladies event -so get it real
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Domestic competition scores and international competition scores are not comparable lol. In domestic competitions, juries are not strict and total scores are 10-15 points higher than what they should be. There is a reason why scores obtained from domestic competitions are not accepted as personal best scores
@@ingai7014 Not true. The Russian local judges are pretty fair. They might inflate the PCS scores, but they are very strict technically. Malinin might not have been second, but Glenn would never have won the Russian Championships. She would have been 9th as the poster said, if we push down the Russian PCS scoring she would have been 7th at best. The top five-six Russian girls would have been impossible for Amber to catch.
The rules for the russian entries for the olympics will be overturned by CAS IMO, In particular, they effectively, unlawfully extend the ban of Valieva, and they also bring in additional punitive measures for her being found with a banned substance in her urine, in forcing her to be effectively shunned by other members of the Russian skating establishment. Both are an overreach, and grossly inappropriate, especially the latter which is the ISU bullying a woman who is just out of her minority. I think Russia will appeal via Valieva to Cas and the ISU will have their assses handed to them on a plate, especially having read the CAS verdict on the Valieva appeal, which was very clear cut and well arrived at.
It won’t overturn -be happy with what given-neither valieva ban -should serve full ban 6 years
@@ingai7014are u ok?
@@ВячеславКоротков-е6фyou keep asking same question-something wrong with you
@@ВячеславКоротков-е6ф Keep going hahahhaha
Who cares
I care!
@ sure :you are ruzzian