"Samus bridges the gap between enlightened beings and mindless killers. For underneath her iconic stoic exterior, lies a very human and awe stricken nature. So what is the meaning of samus's duality? And what does it say about the true nature of Metroids? It certainly speaks volumes about fundamental similarites between every form of conciousness. Be it humans, metroids, chozo or luminoth, Samus is the only being in the universe who can converse with and apreciate the deepest conciousness that connects them all." Very well said sir. Great job.
VejyMonsta Why thank you. All those English essays finally came in handy! We don't get many compliments on the writing itself either. So happy you liked it =D
i almost cried when you said that part very well said indeed but i hate you for bashing other m its a great game with very emotional moments you need to accept that she is strong but she is also sensitive even biological this because she has periods and hormonal imbalances LOL jk
I'm surprised you didn't show footage from Prime 2 when she finds the bodies of the Galactic Federation Soldiers near their ship. That scene shows Samus caring about the lives that were lost in such a simple, yet effective way.
I'm bothered by the lack of mention that one of the reasons Samus can even function beyond the limits of a normal human is because she was given Chozo DNA while still a child.
There's a ton of other details that probably should have been mentioned, but he's probably limiting his videos to a sort of time limit. There is a metric ass-load of cool lore in the metroid series, despite the fact that it all mainly revolved around an individual character. For example, in metroid fusion the X-Parasite Samus isn't just imitating her, it actually took over her suit. Samus had to be removed from it when she was infected, and then later the suit just animated itself powered by the X-Parasite. You're not just fighting a doppelganger, you're fighting a doppelganger wearing the same armor you've relied on your whole life. Samus's actual armor for that game basically starts out as a beefed up life-support system, but it doesn't start with any of the features of Samus's trademark armor, which is a neat spin on the "lose all your upgrades at the beginning of the game" trope that the metroid series relies on.
I like to think that, through Metroid and Metroid II: Return of Samus, Samus is a pretty hardened soldier. She does not think twice about killing the metroids because they ARE dangerous, because they are actively trying to kill her, and because of her mission. Then, however, at the very end of Metroid II, she hesitates for just a moment. She is a hardened soldier, but she has not completely lost her humanity, her compassion. In that one moment as the final egg hatches, as she realizes that she hold the fate of an entire species in her hand, it starts to hit her, that with one more blast, she would bring this species to absolute extinction, a species that was perhaps was only dangerous in the hands of evildoers like the space pirates and Mother Brain. Hesitating before pulling the trigger, she sees this newly hatched metroid, the very last of its kind, emerge from its egg. Its mother was Samus's last victim, but it knows nothing. It knows not of Samus or her mission, it knows nothing of evil, of the space pirates. It does not even try to defend itself. This creature, though its species was terribly dangerous, is the last of its kind, and it is perfectly innocent. It imprints on her immediately as though she were its mother. I like to imagine that a part of Samus still yelled at her to finish her job, to end the threat once and for all, but even as she told herself this, she found herself lowering her weapon, unable to commit this act of xenocide against an innocent creature that trusted and loved her instantly. I like to imagine that she muttered to herself "What the hell am I thinking?" as she brought it back for study. She is a shrewd and pragmatic soldier, and, in retrospect, I am sure that she would justify this action to herself with good, logical reasons such as "Well, it would not be so hard to contain just one. Just one is no threat. Its study could help mankind. A safe retrieval could be worth a bonus." But, though her choice was the right one, in that very moment that she lowered her gun, she was not thinking with her head. She was thinking, for once, with her heart, something that she rarely had call to use in her line of work. I imagine the emotion may have taken her a bit by surprise, so rarely must she deal with innocence as an interstellar bounty hunter. That is my favorite part of her story. Imagining the emotion behind that scene.
I like how everyone hates other M. Because none of us have ever had a time of weakness in our life, where we were second guessing our choices. Guess people forget these characters are suppose to be like us. HUMAN. This game takes place right after the baby metroid saves her life. She killed and tried to make the whole species extinct, but the last baby gave its life to save hers. And you think she can't start questioning if everything she has done is right, and have a slight break down? Come on she can still be a bad ass while having a moment of self questioning, and doubt. Disliking this video just because you try to act like other M did not happen when it did.
No, we hate other m because we just want to play a fun game where Samus appeared as a silent, and badass throughout the game. Gamers who've Atleast been playing since the classic consoles want to see gameplay>story. In other m it seems like they were on naughty dogs dick while making the game.
That's not the real cause. The real reason people don't like Samus in Other M is because the way she is portrayed in Other M does not feel consistent when compared to previous games.
Many of the stuff in the game was based in the metroid manga so I didn´t fell in shock when I saw her in Another M. I guess people hate the game because of anti-emo reasons, mostly. I don´t mind her having voice or emotions, in overall it was a very good game. Hope they make a new one.
The story you never knew: Samus' Power Ball form is actually her turning into her own boob. The only question that nobody knows answer to is which one.
I never understood why she was alongside soldiers in Other M since she is supposed to be a bounty hunter (someone who literally works alone). So I watched this video to explain it. Still confused. Bounty Hunter who works for a Galactic Federation??
I believe she worked as a soldier in the galactic federation before becoming a bounty hunter. According to the events of Other M. Her commanding officer was Adam, the very same you take orders from again in Other M (For some fucking reason.) But after certain events, they parted ways, and that's when Samus became a bounty hunter. If she worked with Galactic federation after this event, it was because they had a bounty for her. Because one ultra soldier weaponized enough is better than plenty of obsolete soldiers. This was a bit late, but I hope this helps!
@@charleskruger8607 Aye. By chance. She was investigating a signal that led her to them by chance. Come to think of it, I think Adam told her to take orders, or leave. So maybe she went with it because she didn't want to go trough federation laws and possible fines for obstructing a mission. This is a galactic level military after all. They've got power.
@@charleskruger8607 She felt she did more good on her own than following the rank and file of the Galactic Federation. Plus, there were politics, she would've been held down/restricted if she remained a soldier. As a bounty hunter she could work as an independent third party in missions they needed as well as handling her own needs. Basically, she outgrew her service with them.
Dear Nintendo, please make a new Metroid because I can only replay Fusion so many times before I want to know what happens next. Sincerely, the entire Metroid fanbase.
Sadly, in the meantime, 38729164 identical Mario titles (that I can't even tell each apart) have already been released since Metroid Prime 3, and many more to come and not one hint of a future Metroid game. This is why I hate Nintendo so much sometimes.
dont forget also having her mother slained by an ridley going throught place filled with corpses(if ya play the trilogy ya will understand probably) and had to sneak into an space pirate ships full of zebesian ready to kill her at any moment
So many complaints about new SSB4 Samus, yes they raised her sexual aspects a small notch, and yes hand to hand combat would be harder the larger breasts one had, but if you weren't aware Shulk has a alt costume with him being topless.. pretty sure lack of clothing makes fighting a bit harder too.. Fact is these days men and women are both sexualized just as much as eachother. So I'm saying sex sells, game devs know this and always have, they also know the gamer collective isn't made up solely of men these days and not only that but people have different sexual orientations.
Snake & captain falcon wear a tight body suit. People don't realize that those suits that all 3 characters wear, is better than wearing normal clothing. It makes you faster, increases movement, protects from weather, makes you fit in spaces people can't. It's actually better if you wear them. People are just perverted about it. Hate it or like it, it's just what they're comfortable wearing. There is NOTHING wrong about it.
LimeJade Maybe sexy characters are a good thing after all. Because they remind the gamers of being human from time to time. As long as they do not exaggerate and other aspects remain not less relevant as they are, it's fine with me.
thank you for completely discounting Other M completely. it really is a shame to the Metroid series and made Samus look weak and annoying, not the badass she is in any other game
I've never played Other M but her PTSD makes sense if it took place as her first mission when she sees Ridley for the first time since she was a child. But then that'd have to be the mission which would be boring and make no sense chronologically.
+John Perez it's hard to pull the ptsd card on that when any other time she encounters ridley (before or after chronologically) is jump to a battle stance with no words
+Matthew Zittel Yeah I get that. I was referring to the manga haha. but it's true. I just sort of wished that if they brought this side of her character into the game that it would make sense and be pulled off. but once again there is only a small window for that to take place as she overcomes her fear of Ridley in that Manga.
+John Perez I see where your coming from. I read the magna and it was good but I think the for the most part unspoken stone cold Samus that has conquered that fear by the time we play as her in the games is a much cooler character and I actually love that it's a woman.
+Matthew Zittel haha yeah that's definitely the best version of Samus. She's actually my favorite female character in a game. She reminds me of how cool Ripley is in Alien. But man, why did this have to happen to Samus?!! Nobody wants a bad Metroid game haha
They did something similar with the Tomb Raider prequel, too. Just why? You'd think these ppl would have a better understanding of what makes their stories popular.
KendrixTermina Imo the Tomb Raider prequel character change at least made a bit more sense since it came at the beginning of Lara's career and so it's reasonable to think that she hadn't yet been hardened from her experiences. It's hard for me to justify Other M however...
Also Ridley is not, just a mindless beast. Ridley is basically similar to Smaug from the Hobbit in terms that he he is a much as a sadist as he is intelligent. As a matter of fact, he seems to have the same level of survivability as Joker has in Batman, excluding when he does die in Joker Returns in the memory part. Anyway, now it's true that Samus's father dies by taking out Ridley's ship, but what isn't mentioned that her mother was set ablaze by him and he mockingly tells Samus later on in her life that he may have eaten her remains. Plus it does go in this order in the time line..... Metroid (Zero Mission), Prime, Hunters, Echoes, Corruption, Metroid 2, Super, (with disgust) Other M, then Fusion. I outright hate what they did with her character in Other M, because she would have dealt with Ridley, four times prior to Other M (Killing him in Super), plus the same idiots that, like the Space Pirates, thought Metroids were simply just tools, end up cloning Ridley, of course as a baby type thing, but nonetheless cloning him. If in her shoes, like the Arbiter in Halo 3 says to a Flood, no matter how much he got up, I'd kill him, again and again.
Those are some astute observations and excellent allusions. I can't say I disagree with any of them. I didn't know the bit about Ridley possibly eating Samus' mother. That's some chilling stuff. You clearly know your stuff, good sir, and for that I applaud you.
Treesicle Yeah as far as fiction of this nature, especially stuff I like, I'm good at mentally collecting info from anywhere as far from comics to video game and any knowledge I don't have, I can get. Take for example the origin of the Sinestro Corp. Idea was inspired by not only Sinestro's thirst to be a ruler, but the name was inspired by a guy named, Booster Gold by ad-libbing the name "Sinestro Corp" and I kid you not, Sinestro twirled his mustache like the generic bad guy that ties the helpless girl to the train track type guy. Most of that was on the top of my head.
Knight41b Yeah, I remember that, but still I myself have dealt with that type of situation (the seeing a "ghost" thing) and I just deal with it without missing a beat. To be honest I would have been like "What? your back for some more?" and I still expected Samus to be at least a bit tougher than me and no, I'm not joking. As far as I can tell Samus Aran is one of the toughest women I know of as far as a character. I want that Samus, the female character that I look up to that helped mold me into what I am now as the kind of guy that will look danger in the eye and not flinch..
Oh yeah. ridley has to be intelligent as fuck to fly spaceships communicate with mother brain... and they seriously pussified the hell outta samus in other M.... aside from a phantoon appearing in the station, and the gameplay, i don't regard any of the story as canon. i infact skipped all the scenes except after beating phantoon's cthulu lookin ass
You obviously never read the manga. Metroids are organisms created by the Chozo, and Mother Brain was created along side them to control the metroids. Samus chose to go to take out the Mother Brain because she grew up with "her", and in an attempt to save the Chozo. Samus also has major PTSD, she freaked out big time and started screaming "KILL ME!" hysterically at one point in the manga. If you're going to use images from the manga, you should at least read all of it, and actually bring up all the details rather than just cherry picking it.
I can agree on that. When you read the Manga you fully understand why Samus acts the way she does in Other M. The Manga explains for example why she was so frightened as she met Ridley on the Bottle Ship. That and ignoring Other M completely shows that the guy spend very little on research anf fact finding.
Iguana Plays Uh no. Shows how much you know about the Metroid community. If you did a little more research, you'd find out that the manga was mostly negatively received among fans. But most agreed it was decent/tolerable for the fact that Samus' sensible personality in the manga took place chronologically prior to any Metroid game, before becoming an experienced huntress. Now thrown in Zero Mission, the 4 Prime games, Metroid 2, Super. The fact that Samus freaks out AGAIN to Ridley in Other M after all those games make absolutely no sense. Even in the manga, when she encounters Ridley for the last time, she has overcome her fear and proceeds to kill him. In the Zero Mission game (which the last few chapters of the manga is based on), she shows determination and anger during the cutscene where Ridley flies in to battle. She didn't even show one hint of concern in any cutscene during Fusion before or after fighting Ridley-X (and that game had plenty of cutscenes, just like Zero Mission). It seems ever since Gunpei Yokoi passed away, Sakamoto has been lacking in his Metroid projects. The manga, fusion, and Other M never reached the success of previous works. Retro seems to be the only group left that knows how to expand the world of Metroid and do it right.
elvampe13 Wall of Text, LRN2Paragraph. Samus never had a personality prior to the manga, everything was fan interpretation. She was an emotionless robot controlled by the player. Nothing you said is factual, the games before Other M never tried to express Samus's human side. If you want a FPS with a protagonist with the personality of a rock, stick to Master Chief.
HTakara82 How disappointing. You're a person who's blind when playing video games and expects the game to hold your hand, guide you and tell you everything. You never heard of the expressions ''show, don't tell'' and ''actions speak louder than words''? If you truly believe that Samus was a robot after playing Super Metroid (or heck even Metroid 2) and, I assume, you think the same about the Prime games, then you're truly a lost cause. Enjoy your Other M (who ruined the strong willed and independent Samus) while attempting to use the manga to justify that horrible mess.
That scene in Other M where she keeps asking Adam for an order was one of the reasons she dispelled from the federation. So it was a learning experience for her before she became a cold badass!
After watching this i really wanna play metroid now. Samus sounds like the female version badass of master chief. Or master chief is the male version badass of samus since she came first i guess?
Yeah they're similar in MANY ways with their personality and armor for sure. We're releasing a Master Chief video next week so stay tuned! Thanks for the comment :D
Treesicle Cool, i actually never knew samus was a girl till i saw that video egoraptor and starbomb made called regretroid, but i also never a had chance to play video games when i was younger to it's not my fault lol
Aizhen1seven Haha no it's not your fault brotha, but it's never too late to start. And Egoraptor and Starbomb are sick, they make great videos. Gamegrumps woot!
Why bother hiding spoilers? If people came to find out what happens and when, I'm pretty sure they're okay with and/or prepared for spoilers. You could just say Metroid Prime is Dark Samus. Just makes digesting the information easier.
While Other M is a bad game, you can't just say it doesn't matter in the overall story, as it leads right in to Fusion. The themes of the corruption within the Federation, and Samus's relationship with Adam are important, and will be important if\when Nintendo ever picks up from Fusion's cliffhanger. I agree Other M handled it badly, but you can't just ignore it.
***** Because most people who has played previous Metroid games sees Samus as a silent badass, and not the kind that is depicted in Other M(weak, desperate, vulnerable). It's nice to give her human feelings, it's just that in Other M it's a little bit exaggerated.
Choco Tammy No, that's not why i or most people hate other m. You can skip the cutscenes, we don't care. What we do care about is how bad and dumbed down the gameplay is. The game brings literally nothing new to the table. Eveyrhting is rehashed. The bosses, the weapons, there is no armor updates, the controls are bad, the enviroments are bland and overall it's a big BIG step down from both the 3d games and the 2d games. Other m is not metroid quality by any means because it wasn't made by nintendo or a first party studio like retro. Huge quality drop + destroying samu's character = why we hate other m so much. Oh, and the music, it's rehashed too, and the new tracks are cringeworthy bad. Ridleys theme is pretty good though.
Yeah... About that... did you ever play Zero Mission? ^^ I know it's not as good (less bosses, less sequence break...) but it's the closest game of the series!
Prime games are waaaay better. Lasts longer, more immersive, more atmospheric, cooler boss battles, you could learn about the environments and enemies by scanning, more story driven, more replay value, way better music, and theres probably more stuff the prime games does better. Super Metroid Is a classic, but it isn't as good as the prime games. People love it more for nostalgia.
Prime is amazing but its more of a side story in terms of plots in the metroid universe. I haven't played or seen the hype of super metroid but I can see why its held up and compared to this day
So Batman with daddy issues = Good because it builds character even though he is one step away from going to Arkham. Samus with daddy issues = sexist because it weakens her by giving her a touch of humanity that being raised by alien birds didn't have. Did I just miss something? Other M was a good story, my complaint was the controls were odd as hell.
Bob Miplace Just wanted to make sure before replying so there's no confusion. The difference between Batman and Samus's "daddy issues" is how they're handled. My knowledge on DC comics is limited but from what I know, Batman's parents' murder is what shapes him to be the superhero we know him as. He wanted to stop the crime in Gotham and make sure no one else suffers the same fate. Samus's parents are killed by Ridley and the space pirates. According to Other M, she suffers PTSD from that event. The problem being that, even though she has defeated Ridley multiple times, she still doesn't get over it and doesn't grow stronger as a character. (Ignoring the fact how Other M contradicts the previous games.) Batman learns from his traumatic past and uses it for good. It's the thing that shapes his character. In Other M, it's only used as a temporary plot device for drama and suspense, only to be quickly discarded. She doesn't even get to kill Ridley.
Silent Hero Use it for good? Batman is as mentally ill as the people he catches. You are talking to a man who more or less "doesn't kill" and seems to be surprised that they escape Arkham and go after him causing more damage. If Bruce wanted to do good, he would had Joker killed like the movie universe. Then become the Daddy Warbucks of Gotham. Samus meanwhile lets go of the past and looks toward the future unhindered by emotional baggage which she drops in Other M. Samus solves her problems with planetary destruction, astleast Samus seeks to end the causes of crap. Sure Ridley wasn't killed but Ridley like Joker will haunt their heroes forever.
No... the story was awful. You can't compare Batman to Samus in Other M. Batman is a stoic badass and Samus is supposed to be a stoic badass. Other M threw that personality out the window and made her something she isn't. A highly skilled galactic bounty hunter that kills cthulhu monsters should never have been depicted as she was in that awful game.
Why the fuck are you making a storyline video while not finishing any thoughts cause of spoilers? It's a metroid game not Game of Thrones, you basically just narrated the opening cutscenes to each game. I dunno how that's a story I wouldn't have known about..
Fun fact: Mother Brain was created by the Chozo to protect and nurture planet Zebes. In the Metroid Manga (which is canon) Mother Brain and Samus knew each other.
Also the ONLY big part of other M that made sense was Samus's reaction to Ridley returning. She has killed him AT LEAST 3 TIMES before Other M. He literally killed her family, murdered her parents, and then helped to kill her family again. That breakdown was completely logical and justified. She pretty much has PSTD from the bastard.
Cruznick06 I don't understand how you can argue that it's logical. As you said, she has already killed him several times by now. She didn't have a problem with it then, why should it be a problem now? Her mental problems tied to Ridley are also seemingly resolved in the manga. It shouldn't come as any suprise to her that Ridley is back yet again. If this game was placed ealier in the timeline I could let it slide, but every game except Fusion takes place before this one. She should be a battle hardened veteran by now, not some brat in need of saving. This scene in the game just seems like a lazy way to create drama and tension. Another thing: wouldn't it make more sense for her to become enraged at the sight of Ridley if she had PTSD? Instead she breaks down and doesn't even finish him off at in the end..
Slasken25 I agree that Samus should've become ANGRY at Ridley's appearance. Would've made more sense. In fact, it might be kind of cool if Samus had something of an obsession with killing Ridley (you know, after murdering her family and all). It would be kinda like a "Captain Ahab/ Moby Dick" kinda thing. I dunno, just a thought lol
RogueSoldier117 That actually could be really cool. I just like to think other M is an alternate universe Samus. Its based off of a comic that got retconned so the personality of the characters (excluding Ridley) isn't necessarily canon in the video game's universe.
RogueSoldier117 Dude, that'd be badass. Can you imagine her saying ""To the last, I grapple with thee; from hell's heart, I stab at thee; for hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee."?
I don't believe that Other M irrevocably tarnished Samus and the Metroid series as a whole. I think that the Metroid series would be better of without Other M's story(although an improved retcon that fixes the problems with the story is fine by me), but the game itself isn't all bad. The story is where 95% of the problems lie, since the game is enjoyable to play as long as the sensemove doesn't decide NOT to work when you need it most. Outside of the story I give the game a 7.5. As a huge Metroid fan though, it is still a guilty pleasure of mine. The only thing you didn't really mention it that the Power Suit is a part of Samus' body in some way(although I think that you at least alluded to in in some way), to the point where she can turn it on and off at will. I don't believe that Samus requires the Zero Suit in order to wear the Power Suit since she didn't need it in the canon manga, but still. Pretty good video I have to say.
I agree with your opinion of Other M. Imo it would of been a fine title on it's own, but it didn't really fit as a Metroid game. I believe you're right about the Power Suit. It's great to hear some excellent insight and we're glad you liked the vid! :)
The "zero suit" isn't a special suit, it's just another layer of clothing, pretty much like underwear. And the name zero suit has never been used in the Metroid series, only in Smash Bros.
PiesCanFly From what I can tell, the Zero Suit is basically the lowest form of defense the Power Suit can provide since you can still use Energy Tanks in the latter portion of Zero Mission. It's basically like underarmor that soldiers wear in real life in order to put on their gear. I'm not completely sure if Samus is required to wear the Zero Suit in order to activate the Power Suit since Samus was wearing some formal attire in the manga and activated the suit under her clothing. I understand what you're saying, but whether or not Samus needs the ZS to activate the PS is one of those unexplained phenomenon that Nintendo has yet to reveal, you know?
Man you and your team are all awesome, as a huge Metroid fan (been that for years) I already knew most of this but you put it together flawlessly. Also you defined Samus beautifully and even discussed the duality inherent to the character, all of that in an entertaining way that felt serious. And Other M sucks I skipped that shi... Keep up the excellent work man.
Samus is a total badass but like every other human of course she has fears. It's hard not to have PTSD after what happened, but I feel other M made her seem too emotional
actually, if you read all the events that lead up to it, it makes sense, her first job wasn´t to kill mother brain, thats her first job as a bounty hunter, as a galactic federation soldier her past is unclear. Look up PTSD and then tell me that seeing ridley come back from the dead, and the fact that it slaughter humans all around her when she was a child, having to hide to survive is not enough to get her freaking out. If you don´t like the portrail of the character it´s fine but, It does make sense.
+Felipe Griffiths Well, she saw Ridley revive thrice already. She fought him once in Metroid, then saw him revive as MetaRidley in the Remake Zero Mission, then saw him revive again in Super Metroid. And thats not counting the Prime games (three popular titles which Other M doesn't regard as cannon) which add a least one other appearance and revival. Shes been fed this stimuli of facing Ridley at least 3 times before, so there's no surprise at Ridley return. So that begs the question, why hasn't she had a breakdown before? The game failed to give a proper reason for it. Now if she was having an existential crisis in Other M having flashbacks of the assault on her home planet mixed in with the lives of Metroids and aliens shes taken throughout the series, maybe linking into the idea that she will always have to continue killing and no matter what Ridley or Metroids or whatever else out there will always return. If that were the case PTSD woulda made for an awesome plot device and totally woulda made sense, but the story wasn't built up like that, the plot device leaned on solely her being surprised that Ridley was back. In other words, its not that she had PTSD its the fact that the story was poorly
"Please don't play this alone in the dark while 10 years old." ...I sure wish someone told me that before I played the original Metroid.. The music for Norfair and beyond CREEPED me out as a kid.. Gave me nightmares, even.
Everyone who is watching this video is learning the full story of Metroid and Samus.. I was curious, so I watched it. You know what I learned? That my nerdy-self already knew everything in this video since I was 9... Yeah, I've known the entire story for 11 years, and then caught up with the Prime games when they were released.... Geez....
GabrielDoesMinecraft You're right GabrielDoesMinecraft, we forgot to include that. We'll be sure to include it in the next one. Thanks for the correction ;)
If you are going to tell someone's life story, you kinda have to explain everything, and not avoid "spoilers". They are part of the story which some people will never know or get to, and they happened to come here to hear about it. Other than that these are great, good stuff.
+LeafTheDracoPlays You're right. She does have Chozo DNA and he forgot to mention that. I'll do a quick explanation for those who don't know because it is an important reason that he left out for some reason. The reason why she has the Chozo DNA in the first place is because when she was taken to Zebes, Mother Brain (yes, she was created by the Chozo as an artificial intelligence, and was later corrupted by the Space Pirates) noticed that Samus would not survive the harsh atmosphere, so she was given genetic modifications to be able to survive; the consequence of this was that she would have the ability to bond with Chozo technology (and by the way, this is also the reason why the Energy Controller bonded to Samus in Prime 2: Echoes, because the Luminoth are related to the Chozo and have linear technology to them), thus giving her unique access to her suit. One other thing he didn't mention, which also ties into this one, is that the Metroids were actually biologically altered by the Chozo to fight the X-Parasite. They became domesticated by the Chozo, which means that Samus had a different perspective than the universal misunderstanding of these poor creatures. When the Space Pirates took control of them (he also mistook the reason why the space pirates controlled them; they weren't to be used as soldiers, but rather as an energy source for them because of their mysterious energy-siphoning abilities; since the species is nomadic, despite the home planet they have as seen in Metroid Prime 3, they need a portable energy source, and even go so far as to increase the energy output by infusing them with phazon in several instances), the Metroids became feral and a force the Space Pirates just couldn't control. So when the Federation gave the bounty of killing all the Metroids on Zebes (because they feared the Space Pirates would use them as weapons against the Federation), one could argue that Samus said she would do it alone because she was the only one who had that connection with them. The Chozo were supposedly wiped out or otherwise ascended, and she was the only living remnant of their culture. Therefore, there was no one else who should do it--or perhaps even could do it. This also goes to point out why Samus took such motherly interest in the baby Metroid and spared its life. She had a connection with the creature that no one else could.
Adam was the first human she encountered after rejoining the Human Race and was the only one for a long time to treat her normally and not with fear or hostility.
I haven't played other M, but from what I've seen it looks very awsome. The final boss has some really cool cutscenes in my opinion. I don't know why everybody hates it.
My main problem, the Samus in Other M is not the Samus in other games... And it isn't because she is showing emotions and dealing with problems.... it is that she doesn't is way to dependent on her "superior" when other games would indicate she doesn't care what they say and they tried to add some sort of sexual tension between them but it just came off as her being, not a woman but a tiny girl.
I have a god damn question. HOW DOES SAMUS REMAIN IN HER SUIT WHEN UNCONSCIOUS? I thought it took immense concentration and im pretty sure the saying "its so easy i could do it in my sleep" was just that, a saying. Because surely when she falls unconscious she would be left without the suit and potentially the whole of Metroid fusion would never have taken place...? Apart from the over used "we made more metroids" part
but that wouldn't really explain why the power suit remained on her body, unless somehow the metroids could replicate what took samus years of rigorous training
Samus is a half Metroid, half human now. Metroid Fusion explains a lot & it also shows that if she was to take off the suit, we'll get a Samus that looks like Metroid 3 Corruption Samus when we allow her to be almost corrupted. Her skin will either have some blue throughout some body parts or completely blue all over.
Treesicle youre welcome. granted i never played other m but a friend of mine who adores teh metroid series was utterly disappointed with submissive characterization of an erstwhile badass like samus. i think his main complaint was samus "unlocked" abilities by receiving permssion from her superior which ofc breaks not only traditional upgrade mechanics but turns samus into a bimbo
BuddhaBebop And yet no one remembers Fusion which came right after Other M chronologically. You were ordered around as well on that YET NO ONE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT. What would make other M fit more is have a prequel before M and after Super to explain why Samus can't be trusted and must be restricted and "ordered" around as she is in both games. Adam is indeed the AI too in Fusion as well btw. I do not totally defend M as I hated its game play controls and over all difficulty and the fighting moves crap that did not fit her, more than its story which in itself was badly presented with no explanation for things and most of it should belong in another game, perhaps before Metrod 1 /Zero mission such as her breakdown vs. Ridley and the back story as a new recruit. Most players of M never read the canon manga of her childhood etc on top of it all. There should have been a prequel explaining why the federation treats Samus like she is treated taking orders from the GF and not allowed to use her full arsenal. Something had to happen between super and Other M to warrant that and which continued into Fusion after she had her new suit with everything locked away yet again. One good thing that came out of Other M and was reinforced in Fusion, was the G.F. is just as soulless and evil as the space pirates willing to re-breed metroids and make unstoppable weapons all the same. There is also that Metroid Dread idea that never surfaced that was hinted in MP3: Corruption.
Treesicle Don't believe him he's 9. This was pretty garbage, the voice was boring the jokes were stupid you really need to work on it if you have any desire to grow this channel because there are far better storytellers in this youtube game.
TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, I think Metroid: other M is actually in fact a Prequel to the Metroid storyline, meaning Metroid: Other M predates the events of the NESes Metroid!
+klinton kavanagh No its not. In the very beginning of the game we are told/shown that Other M takes place after Super metroid because its after Samus's adventures with the baby metroid. The only game that Other M predates chronologically is Metroid Fusion... granted the whole Ridley PTSD thing would make more sense if it was the ifrst encounter since her parents rather than their like forth
MonteCreations OBVIOUSLY YES IT IS, someone at Nintendo messed up something in Other M, and NO MATTER what you all say everyone hates the game because of it, AND F.I.Y. it feels more like a prequel then a sequel!
I give kudos to Treesicle for giving us an interesting video on Samus and providing some depth for our favorite bounty hunter (Sorry Boba), however I was a bit turned off on how he described Samus in the first few lines. Not so much that she is sexy (one look at her in the Zero Suit and that should be blatantly clear) but by "strong and independent" from 0:06-0:07. Before anyone who might read this throws the sexist card at me, please hear me out. While I agree that strong and independent are good traits for any protagonist to have, is anyone else getting sick of these two traits being slapped onto every description of female protagonists in gaming? Male protagonists such as Mario, Link, Sonic, Male Commander Shepard, Master Chief, and Nathan Drake are hardly described as just strong and independent, they also usually receive an in-depth analysis on what makes them great or not. Yet Lara Croft, Female Commander Shepard, Princess Zelda, Samus, Bayonetta are always "strong and independent." The word "empowered" is often used as well. Due to this overuse, anytime I hear a female character described as strong and independent, I immediately assume the reviewer has very little to talk about and is merely saying "strong and independent" to avoid analyzing the character. Who is she? What are her goals? What are her hopes and fears? "Strong and independent" is no longer good enough. Also, this apparent avoidance gives me the impression that since this character is described just like any other female protagonist, then that must mean she is unoriginal and that she brings nothing new in terms of characterization. Fortunately, I already knew Samus is pretty cool and a great character to play as. However, to avoid making female protagonists sound bland, does anyone else think that reviewers should focus on other traits of heroines (no, their bods are not the "traits" of which I speak, but they are a nice bonus) besides "strong and independent? They're good, but such qualities should be a given about a protagonist and we as the audience shouldn't have to be told they're strong and independent in order to believe it.
The biggest thing that really annoys me with the whole "strong and independent" description and the people with that mindset and where they make a big deal out of a female character being someone like Samus, or Female Commander Shepard, or Lara Croft, or whoever...those same people that praise those characters turn around and start bashing anything that isn't "badass". Other M being a prime example, it always feels to me like these people expect the female characters they go around labeling "strong and independent" to never have or express any kind of weakness at all and to never be any kind of emotional except angry... Honestly, I think that female characters should just stop being focused on period, there shouldn't be any sort of quota on game characters fitting specific check-boxes or ideals, the story is just going to suffer or the player is going to otherwise be distracted from the game itself by a social/political agenda. Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for having more female characters or more of any specific kind of character really, but I *don't* think it should ultimately matter. It shouldn't matter whether the player character is a man, woman, robot, black, white, purple...all that should matter is whether or not it's a good/well-written character.
This video does use the phrase "strong and independent" a lot. But in this case I think its justified, because saying a female character is "strong and independent" feels spot on when you're talking about Samus. And when you think about it, that's all we really know about her as a person (that is if you decide to ignore the events of Other M like the author of the video did).
Reboot Lara being better? Hardly. Classic Lara had something iconic that drew fans to her personality. Reboot Lara is just...Katniss, without being Katniss.
Personally, I feel that Other M was a shame and others might agree too. It totally spoiled Samus' character and did sh*t to the controls. All I can do is hope that the Switch revives Metroid and fixes Samus' character.
Nomad 2145 Although I would love another Prime, I feel it's time for a new *proper* reboot as Metroid really needs that. A new game would also reintroduce the series to newcomers too...
Yasaal Abrar Nibtendo might be trying to trigger kids with her...In Japan she stands next to mario and Kirby. and waves and shit...So yeah...I hope Nintendo fixes it but who knows. .Pleasing your fan base us what keeps a franchise alive.
so technically speaking, at the end of the metroid games is Metroid fusion right? in which samus's body gets mixed whit the x parasyte so she cant take off the suit anymore? my god thats so sad... so if nintendo wanted to make a new metroid game and choose to continue the timeline, samus would look as in metroid fusion...? please excuse my lack of english and nice video, i had no idea about samus backstory.
+Shirogane your english is perfect and assuming Nintendo decides to make another Metroid Game (it's been 6 years now) and this new game takes place after Metroid Fusion then yes they would continue what she looks like at the end of Metroid Fusion.
+Shirogane The DNA is a part of her whole being, she doesn't need the suit on to be safe from the parasite. Her body now can actually consume them, in an ironic twist.
+Shirogane well at the end of fusion they show images with the new suit and images with her without the suit implying she can take it off however this also implies the fusion suit is permanent since it's a part of her(and her dna *gasp* symbolism)
If you mean the heroine in Aliens, then I say yes. The original game was greatly based on Aliens, with her eternal nemesis named after the movie's creator, Ridley Scott. Fun fact, yes?
Angel of Death Light and Darkness I think it's funny how they tried to portray her as a soft and caring person, who doesn't really want to kill. Yet she proceeds to kill her enemies in the most gruesome and cruel way. XD I'm okay with Origin stories, when it's done right...this wasn't.
Bovine Joni nah. if you scan the pirate lore in MP3 you find dark samus is an absolute badass who singlehandedly enslaves the space pirates and almost defeats the galactic feeration at the end of the game
Enforcer Ridley Just because a log "said" it did some cool things doesn't mean anything. Nothing to top how the fear set in as the SA-X was near and the music went silent so you could hear its footsteps off-screen unbeknownst to you which direction it was coming from. Especially when the SA-X took chase after you, no scripted scene or data logs can beat the actually running for your life as Samus Aran the world feared bounty hunter who took panic to escape the dreadful SA-X. The best part about it was that it happened in real time, meaning a scene didn't decide if you survived this encounter or escaped you were responsible for your own survival. Probably the coolest moment in Metroid besides baby metroid coming back to save your life.
Well yes, she was infused with Chozo blood as a child, which made her grow into her superhuman adult stature. Then she was infused with Metroid DNA in Fusion, then the SA-X fused with her at the end of the game. So it's hard to say what Samus is now, definitely not human that's for sure, but definitely still a hero.
+dudeinparadise it's only dissapointment that it didnt show us more. some enemies where pointless to bring into the game... ehem... phantoon... but the plot was solid in places. think about it. mother brain. walking among us as a cyborg. blending in as melissa bergman. Adam Malchovich showing up. samus's biggest father figure since old bird. his sacrifice to destroy the cold resistant metroids. Adam was trying to protect samus because he knew she could die trying to stop them from taking over the UNIVERSE.
also one thing most people don't know is that the planet zebes that samus was trained on had 960x earth's normal gravity and after fusing with chozo dna she was able to move swiftly through that environment.
I hate feminism as much as everyone, but Samus' character wasn't ruined in Other M because she was shown to be passive and demure per se, but because that was NEVER her personality to begin with! Samus has always been sexy, and I'm perfectly fine with that, but not what Other M did!
Not one single REAL metroid fan considers Other M to be a real addition to the series. They make Samus look like a whiny little child in that horrid game, when she is supposed to be a badass veteran space bounty hunter.
Sooo... I'm not a real fan even though I've played every game through about 3 times 100% (including AM2R and Other M) and it was one of the first game franchises I ever played? Smh Also it seems like everybody who criticizes Other M's story doesn't understand character development or the effects of PTSD on the mind, no matter how hardened the soldier (bounty hunter in this case). I mean she did see her parents murdered before her eyes at a very young age, that's got to scar anyone.
Male characters are sexualized all the time. You put a bikini on a female character and everyone loses their mind. Jeez. They even complained about it in smash 4 and shulk was in boxers...and cap falcon wears skin tight suit. Nobody says a thing. Grow up people and stop the ridiculous inmature bullshit.
Well said Masticatious. Although I do think you were exaggerating with that Lara comment. There are far more Gay male/straight female fans of Lara these days, then any straigh male gamers. Or maybe, that's just my perception.
Fun fact, Today In 2016, Treesicle is probably 24, I know this from 7:54 he says, "Please Don't Play this alone upstairs at night at the age of 10. Please really Don't." Metroid prime was realesed in 2002, if he was 10 in 2002, he would be 24, in 2016. But I don't know when he started playing this beast game, so I don't know.
my theory is that the Chozo created the metroids for whatever purpose just like anything else created in the universe. That's why the metroid suit was so compatible with samus, Metroid Fusion says it all. It was the 2nd time she had to work together with metroids to fight evil beings in space. And yeah I know, some of them tried to kill her, but it's not like that have any kind of subconscious because they were taken over by phason in Prime 3.
You have to consider that Other M is right after super, where Samus watched the baby she bonded with sacrifice itself to save her from mother brain. She's obviously depressed by this and is in a very unstable emotional state during Other M, and at the same time she's surrounded by figures from her past, back from when she was naive and rebellious. She saw Adam as a mentor and father figure as well as her commanding officer, he had the right to authorize her powerups because it was his mission, she just answered a distress call, not to mention it's following the Metroid formula to strip Samus of her powerups at the beginning of the game. She freaked out over Ridley because he had died for good in super, as the Ridley from Other M is a clone.
the reason that samus and the baby metroid formed a bond is because some metroids that hatch from eggs tend to imprint on the first thing they see, so when the metroid hatched it mistook samus for its mother, and when she realized this, samus could not bring herself to kill it despite the fact that she had already killed all the others. it just shows that samus is not cold or ruthless. underneath her armor is a human being like the rest of us
fun fact, i think its in the fusion instructions that we learn the meaning of the word "Metroid", which means "Ultimate Weapon", so after the event of fusion's intro, samus effectively became the Ultimate Weapon herself, hence the title of the game... SYMBOLISM!!! ;D
i'm not sure if you've ever been in or even known anyone who was in the military but here's the first argument to burst your bubble. Samus was enlisted in the galactic federation before she became a bounty hunter. While being a badass on all accounts she can't do anything without an explicit order. In fact during the scene where she was asking to receive an order to leave and help (1:15) she could have been detained and/or dishonorably discharged for speaking out of line and attempting to go over an officer's head. Being ignored and other treatments like this pushed her into becoming a bounty hunter who doesn't play by anyone's rules but her own. Fast forward to the events of Other M where she invades a GF mission without permission simply because she knows that the rules will get them killed. The GF is one of her most stable employers so if she does anything to piss them off she loses a paycheck, therefore she should either leave or play by the rules. When she realizes that the team that she is working with is dying and Adam has been doing sketchy things this whole time she starts unleashing her suit's potential without permission because she doesn't need it. Which lead me to the final point Adam's death. The scene where she is screaming for Adam to not go is when she gets to see her 3rd father die. Samus has little to know memories about her birth father (try to remember when you were 3 really hard and see if you can recall everything), and Old Bird died before she enlisted in the GF along with the rest of the chozo. Adam has been the closest thing to a father that samus had since her last two have died, and now she has to watch him die. Now think of someone that you care about, now think of that person dying, now think of another person you care about just as much not imagine you have to watch that person die and you can't do anything to stop it, not tell me you won't be emotional. Other M doesn't change Samus from being a badass it just makes her more human. It has one of the best written stories of any game to come out in the metroid series and is arguably better than most games that came out around that time. That was my rant; like, comment, and subscribe (he said quizzaciously).
The best representation of Samus Aran that i ever saw was in a fan made movie called Metroid: Sky Calls, she isn't all that "please, let me do this", like a wimpy anime character, she looks more mature and colected, also not so edgy as folks may want her to be (a thing that soy boys usually think of strong independent womans), she is just a methodical woman who takes caution when but keep calm, she looks logical and reasonable there, that is my blueprint for a good Samus Aran I like her respresentation in that small short piece.
"Samus bridges the gap between enlightened beings and mindless killers. For underneath her iconic stoic exterior, lies a very human and awe stricken nature. So what is the meaning of samus's duality? And what does it say about the true nature of Metroids? It certainly speaks volumes about fundamental similarites between every form of conciousness. Be it humans, metroids, chozo or luminoth, Samus is the only being in the universe who can converse with and apreciate the deepest conciousness that connects them all."
Very well said sir. Great job.
VejyMonsta Why thank you. All those English essays finally came in handy! We don't get many compliments on the writing itself either. So happy you liked it =D
i almost cried when you said that part very well said indeed but i hate you for bashing other m its a great game with very emotional moments you need to accept that she is strong but she is also sensitive even biological this because she has periods and hormonal imbalances LOL jk
YoSoyNintendo now that i agree due to the fact that story took place in her teen years and not women years.
THIS QUOTE MADE MY DAY SO MUCH BRIGHTER.
You forgot to mention that Samus was fused with chozo dna, which is what gives her super agility, strength, and the ability to use her suit.
Namekian DNA >
I'm surprised you didn't show footage from Prime 2 when she finds the bodies of the Galactic Federation Soldiers near their ship. That scene shows Samus caring about the lives that were lost in such a simple, yet effective way.
I'm bothered by the lack of mention that one of the reasons Samus can even function beyond the limits of a normal human is because she was given Chozo DNA while still a child.
There's a ton of other details that probably should have been mentioned, but he's probably limiting his videos to a sort of time limit. There is a metric ass-load of cool lore in the metroid series, despite the fact that it all mainly revolved around an individual character.
For example, in metroid fusion the X-Parasite Samus isn't just imitating her, it actually took over her suit. Samus had to be removed from it when she was infected, and then later the suit just animated itself powered by the X-Parasite. You're not just fighting a doppelganger, you're fighting a doppelganger wearing the same armor you've relied on your whole life. Samus's actual armor for that game basically starts out as a beefed up life-support system, but it doesn't start with any of the features of Samus's trademark armor, which is a neat spin on the "lose all your upgrades at the beginning of the game" trope that the metroid series relies on.
Yeah, if they mentioned all that stuff from the manga, they should have also mentioned how she actually is superior to any other human.
I like to think that, through Metroid and Metroid II: Return of Samus, Samus is a pretty hardened soldier. She does not think twice about killing the metroids because they ARE dangerous, because they are actively trying to kill her, and because of her mission.
Then, however, at the very end of Metroid II, she hesitates for just a moment. She is a hardened soldier, but she has not completely lost her humanity, her compassion. In that one moment as the final egg hatches, as she realizes that she hold the fate of an entire species in her hand, it starts to hit her, that with one more blast, she would bring this species to absolute extinction, a species that was perhaps was only dangerous in the hands of evildoers like the space pirates and Mother Brain.
Hesitating before pulling the trigger, she sees this newly hatched metroid, the very last of its kind, emerge from its egg. Its mother was Samus's last victim, but it knows nothing. It knows not of Samus or her mission, it knows nothing of evil, of the space pirates. It does not even try to defend itself. This creature, though its species was terribly dangerous, is the last of its kind, and it is perfectly innocent. It imprints on her immediately as though she were its mother.
I like to imagine that a part of Samus still yelled at her to finish her job, to end the threat once and for all, but even as she told herself this, she found herself lowering her weapon, unable to commit this act of xenocide against an innocent creature that trusted and loved her instantly. I like to imagine that she muttered to herself "What the hell am I thinking?" as she brought it back for study.
She is a shrewd and pragmatic soldier, and, in retrospect, I am sure that she would justify this action to herself with good, logical reasons such as "Well, it would not be so hard to contain just one. Just one is no threat. Its study could help mankind. A safe retrieval could be worth a bonus." But, though her choice was the right one, in that very moment that she lowered her gun, she was not thinking with her head. She was thinking, for once, with her heart, something that she rarely had call to use in her line of work. I imagine the emotion may have taken her a bit by surprise, so rarely must she deal with innocence as an interstellar bounty hunter.
That is my favorite part of her story. Imagining the emotion behind that scene.
Whats the point of this being spoiler free? i came here to know the story
Cause you gotta play em!
But it's old
I like how everyone hates other M. Because none of us have ever had a time of weakness in our life, where we were second guessing our choices. Guess people forget these characters are suppose to be like us. HUMAN. This game takes place right after the baby metroid saves her life. She killed and tried to make the whole species extinct, but the last baby gave its life to save hers. And you think she can't start questioning if everything she has done is right, and have a slight break down? Come on she can still be a bad ass while having a moment of self questioning, and doubt. Disliking this video just because you try to act like other M did not happen when it did.
No, we hate other m because we just want to play a fun game where Samus appeared as a silent, and badass throughout the game. Gamers who've Atleast been playing since the classic consoles want to see gameplay>story. In other m it seems like they were on naughty dogs dick while making the game.
The biggest issue was giving her a voice actor.
Thank You. This is exactly what everybody needs to realize.
That's not the real cause. The real reason people don't like Samus in Other M is because the way she is portrayed in Other M does not feel consistent when compared to previous games.
Many of the stuff in the game was based in the metroid manga so I didn´t fell in shock when I saw her in Another M. I guess people hate the game because of anti-emo reasons, mostly. I don´t mind her having voice or emotions, in overall it was a very good game. Hope they make a new one.
The story you never knew: Samus' Power Ball form is actually her turning into her own boob.
The only question that nobody knows answer to is which one.
They fuse together
OMG this comment section is so funny, just talking about boobs and ass. YOU PERVS
@@markuax5046 We got a white knight over here....
@@natesmith7096 is there black knights?
@@Justin-qb1yw nope, just asshats...
"Old bird is the name of the wisest fuck" XD
I never understood why she was alongside soldiers in Other M since she is supposed to be a bounty hunter (someone who literally works alone). So I watched this video to explain it. Still confused. Bounty Hunter who works for a Galactic Federation??
I believe she worked as a soldier in the galactic federation before becoming a bounty hunter. According to the events of Other M. Her commanding officer was Adam, the very same you take orders from again in Other M (For some fucking reason.) But after certain events, they parted ways, and that's when Samus became a bounty hunter. If she worked with Galactic federation after this event, it was because they had a bounty for her. Because one ultra soldier weaponized enough is better than plenty of obsolete soldiers.
This was a bit late, but I hope this helps!
@@mrensio9341 so she left them and came back to them
@@charleskruger8607 Aye. By chance. She was investigating a signal that led her to them by chance. Come to think of it, I think Adam told her to take orders, or leave. So maybe she went with it because she didn't want to go trough federation laws and possible fines for obstructing a mission. This is a galactic level military after all. They've got power.
@@mrensio9341 oh right, I get it now, sorry for the late response btw, if it was too late for you
@@charleskruger8607 She felt she did more good on her own than following the rank and file of the Galactic Federation. Plus, there were politics, she would've been held down/restricted if she remained a soldier. As a bounty hunter she could work as an independent third party in missions they needed as well as handling her own needs. Basically, she outgrew her service with them.
Dear Nintendo, please make a new Metroid because I can only replay Fusion so many times before I want to know what happens next. Sincerely, the entire Metroid fanbase.
Incarnate Sable Truth.
Amen, I want DREAD, damn it!
Sadly, in the meantime, 38729164 identical Mario titles (that I can't even tell each apart) have already been released since Metroid Prime 3, and many more to come and not one hint of a future Metroid game. This is why I hate Nintendo so much sometimes.
Hey
@@TreesicleThe world that looks alike in every level of the original Metroid game needs to return.
Srsly...Metroid Prime is one of the best games ever!
Cyber Metroid
Samus Aran In Cyberoid
In her defense, having an infant explode in your face is enough to mess anyone up for a while.
...can't stop thinking of exploding babies
D:
dont forget also having her mother slained by an ridley
going throught place filled with corpses(if ya play the trilogy ya will understand probably)
and had to sneak into an space pirate ships full of zebesian ready to kill her at any moment
So many complaints about new SSB4 Samus, yes they raised her sexual aspects a small notch, and yes hand to hand combat would be harder the larger breasts one had, but if you weren't aware Shulk has a alt costume with him being topless.. pretty sure lack of clothing makes fighting a bit harder too.. Fact is these days men and women are both sexualized just as much as eachother. So I'm saying sex sells, game devs know this and always have, they also know the gamer collective isn't made up solely of men these days and not only that but people have different sexual orientations.
Snake & captain falcon wear a tight body suit. People don't realize that those suits that all 3 characters wear, is better than wearing normal clothing. It makes you faster, increases movement, protects from weather, makes you fit in spaces people can't. It's actually better if you wear them. People are just perverted about it. Hate it or like it, it's just what they're comfortable wearing. There is NOTHING wrong about it.
Auto Correct In the orignal the best ending was to see Samus in a bikini.
LimeJade Maybe sexy characters are a good thing after all. Because they remind the gamers of being human from time to time. As long as they do not exaggerate and other aspects remain not less relevant as they are, it's fine with me.
shulks swin suit was actealy in his game
LimeJade I love it. Then they nerfed her rack in the upcoming SSBU
thank you for completely discounting Other M completely. it really is a shame to the Metroid series and made Samus look weak and annoying, not the badass she is in any other game
I've never played Other M but her PTSD makes sense if it took place as her first mission when she sees Ridley for the first time since she was a child. But then that'd have to be the mission which would be boring and make no sense chronologically.
+John Perez it's hard to pull the ptsd card on that when any other time she encounters ridley (before or after chronologically) is jump to a battle stance with no words
+Matthew Zittel Yeah I get that. I was referring to the manga haha. but it's true. I just sort of wished that if they brought this side of her character into the game that it would make sense and be pulled off. but once again there is only a small window for that to take place as she overcomes her fear of Ridley in that Manga.
+John Perez I see where your coming from. I read the magna and it was good but I think the for the most part unspoken stone cold Samus that has conquered that fear by the time we play as her in the games is a much cooler character and I actually love that it's a woman.
+Matthew Zittel haha yeah that's definitely the best version of Samus. She's actually my favorite female character in a game. She reminds me of how cool Ripley is in Alien. But man, why did this have to happen to Samus?!! Nobody wants a bad Metroid game haha
If you remove Other M from the canon, everything suddenly makes sense again.
I completely agree. Unfortunately, that is almost definitely not going to happen :(
They did something similar with the Tomb Raider prequel, too. Just why? You'd think these ppl would have a better understanding of what makes their stories popular.
KendrixTermina Imo the Tomb Raider prequel character change at least made a bit more sense since it came at the beginning of Lara's career and so it's reasonable to think that she hadn't yet been hardened from her experiences. It's hard for me to justify Other M however...
KendrixTermina Great points all around. The cliched storyline aspect wasn't something I had focused on but you're definitely on point.
Also Ridley is not, just a mindless beast. Ridley is basically similar to Smaug from the Hobbit in terms that he he is a much as a sadist as he is intelligent. As a matter of fact, he seems to have the same level of survivability as Joker has in Batman, excluding when he does die in Joker Returns in the memory part. Anyway, now it's true that Samus's father dies by taking out Ridley's ship, but what isn't mentioned that her mother was set ablaze by him and he mockingly tells Samus later on in her life that he may have eaten her remains.
Plus it does go in this order in the time line..... Metroid (Zero Mission), Prime, Hunters, Echoes, Corruption, Metroid 2, Super, (with disgust) Other M, then Fusion.
I outright hate what they did with her character in Other M, because she would have dealt with Ridley, four times prior to Other M (Killing him in Super), plus the same idiots that, like the Space Pirates, thought Metroids were simply just tools, end up cloning Ridley, of course as a baby type thing, but nonetheless cloning him. If in her shoes, like the Arbiter in Halo 3 says to a Flood, no matter how much he got up, I'd kill him, again and again.
Those are some astute observations and excellent allusions. I can't say I disagree with any of them. I didn't know the bit about Ridley possibly eating Samus' mother. That's some chilling stuff.
You clearly know your stuff, good sir, and for that I applaud you.
Treesicle
Yeah as far as fiction of this nature, especially stuff I like, I'm good at mentally collecting info from anywhere as far from comics to video game and any knowledge I don't have, I can get. Take for example the origin of the Sinestro Corp. Idea was inspired by not only Sinestro's thirst to be a ruler, but the name was inspired by a guy named, Booster Gold by ad-libbing the name "Sinestro Corp" and I kid you not, Sinestro twirled his mustache like the generic bad guy that ties the helpless girl to the train track type guy. Most of that was on the top of my head.
Treesicle Look at the Gaijin Goombah video that talks about Samus. I even mentions why Samus is like that in Other M.
Knight41b
Yeah, I remember that, but still I myself have dealt with that type of situation (the seeing a "ghost" thing) and I just deal with it without missing a beat. To be honest I would have been like "What? your back for some more?" and I still expected Samus to be at least a bit tougher than me and no, I'm not joking. As far as I can tell Samus Aran is one of the toughest women I know of as far as a character. I want that Samus, the female character that I look up to that helped mold me into what I am now as the kind of guy that will look danger in the eye and not flinch..
Oh yeah. ridley has to be intelligent as fuck to fly spaceships communicate with mother brain... and they seriously pussified the hell outta samus in other M.... aside from a phantoon appearing in the station, and the gameplay, i don't regard any of the story as canon. i infact skipped all the scenes except after beating phantoon's cthulu lookin ass
Two things I didnt knew before this video, Samus is freaking 6'3? she was 20 years old on her first mission? damn!
6' 3" is stupidly tall for a woman.
Do you watch Game of Thrones? Brienne of Tarth is six three.
I know a lot of guys who were deployed at the age 18. How is a mission at 20 an insane thing to think about?
You obviously never read the manga. Metroids are organisms created by the Chozo, and Mother Brain was created along side them to control the metroids. Samus chose to go to take out the Mother Brain because she grew up with "her", and in an attempt to save the Chozo. Samus also has major PTSD, she freaked out big time and started screaming "KILL ME!" hysterically at one point in the manga.
If you're going to use images from the manga, you should at least read all of it, and actually bring up all the details rather than just cherry picking it.
I can agree on that.
When you read the Manga you fully understand why Samus acts the way she does in Other M. The Manga explains for example why she was so frightened as she met Ridley on the Bottle Ship. That and ignoring Other M completely shows that the guy spend very little on research anf fact finding.
HTakara82 just so u know that is a different characterization from the original sinus and that's also based off of a ret con comic
Iguana Plays Uh no. Shows how much you know about the Metroid community. If you did a little more research, you'd find out that the manga was mostly negatively received among fans. But most agreed it was decent/tolerable for the fact that Samus' sensible personality in the manga took place chronologically prior to any Metroid game, before becoming an experienced huntress. Now thrown in Zero Mission, the 4 Prime games, Metroid 2, Super. The fact that Samus freaks out AGAIN to Ridley in Other M after all those games make absolutely no sense. Even in the manga, when she encounters Ridley for the last time, she has overcome her fear and proceeds to kill him. In the Zero Mission game (which the last few chapters of the manga is based on), she shows determination and anger during the cutscene where Ridley flies in to battle. She didn't even show one hint of concern in any cutscene during Fusion before or after fighting Ridley-X (and that game had plenty of cutscenes, just like Zero Mission). It seems ever since Gunpei Yokoi passed away, Sakamoto has been lacking in his Metroid projects. The manga, fusion, and Other M never reached the success of previous works. Retro seems to be the only group left that knows how to expand the world of Metroid and do it right.
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Samus never had a personality prior to the manga, everything was fan interpretation. She was an emotionless robot controlled by the player. Nothing you said is factual, the games before Other M never tried to express Samus's human side.
If you want a FPS with a protagonist with the personality of a rock, stick to Master Chief.
HTakara82 How disappointing. You're a person who's blind when playing video games and expects the game to hold your hand, guide you and tell you everything. You never heard of the expressions ''show, don't tell'' and ''actions speak louder than words''?
If you truly believe that Samus was a robot after playing Super Metroid (or heck even Metroid 2) and, I assume, you think the same about the Prime games, then you're truly a lost cause.
Enjoy your Other M (who ruined the strong willed and independent Samus) while attempting to use the manga to justify that horrible mess.
3:20 Dude, she's a BEAST lol.
Samus on her days off: Looking for new recipes buying shoes. Then later pure chaotic bloody heroism!
That scene in Other M where she keeps asking Adam for an order was one of the reasons she dispelled from the federation. So it was a learning experience for her before she became a cold badass!
After watching this i really wanna play metroid now. Samus sounds like the female version badass of master chief. Or master chief is the male version badass of samus since she came first i guess?
Yeah they're similar in MANY ways with their personality and armor for sure. We're releasing a Master Chief video next week so stay tuned! Thanks for the comment :D
Treesicle Cool, i actually never knew samus was a girl till i saw that video egoraptor and starbomb made called regretroid, but i also never a had chance to play video games when i was younger to it's not my fault lol
Aizhen1seven Haha no it's not your fault brotha, but it's never too late to start. And Egoraptor and Starbomb are sick, they make great videos. Gamegrumps woot!
Why bother hiding spoilers? If people came to find out what happens and when, I'm pretty sure they're okay with and/or prepared for spoilers. You could just say Metroid Prime is Dark Samus. Just makes digesting the information easier.
While Other M is a bad game, you can't just say it doesn't matter in the overall story, as it leads right in to Fusion. The themes of the corruption within the Federation, and Samus's relationship with Adam are important, and will be important if\when Nintendo ever picks up from Fusion's cliffhanger. I agree Other M handled it badly, but you can't just ignore it.
Can we just pretend that other m never existed?
I don't really what's so bad about Other M (most Likely because I never played it)
***** Because most people who has played previous Metroid games sees Samus as a silent badass, and not the kind that is depicted in Other M(weak, desperate, vulnerable). It's nice to give her human feelings, it's just that in Other M it's a little bit exaggerated.
Choco Tammy
No, that's not why i or most people hate other m. You can skip the cutscenes, we don't care.
What we do care about is how bad and dumbed down the gameplay is.
The game brings literally nothing new to the table. Eveyrhting is rehashed. The bosses, the weapons, there is no armor updates, the controls are bad, the enviroments are bland and overall it's a big BIG step down from both the 3d games and the 2d games.
Other m is not metroid quality by any means because it wasn't made by nintendo or a first party studio like retro.
Huge quality drop + destroying samu's character = why we hate other m so much.
Oh, and the music, it's rehashed too, and the new tracks are cringeworthy bad.
Ridleys theme is pretty good though.
It's basically the Metroid version of Dragonball GT.
Bryan Merrill What is this GT thing you're talking about? :^)
I can attest to what he says at 7:50. Fighting those things at night at 10 is unbelievably terrifying.
super metroid was the best in my opinion
Yeah... About that... did you ever play Zero Mission? ^^
I know it's not as good (less bosses, less sequence break...) but it's the closest game of the series!
Prime games are waaaay better. Lasts longer, more immersive, more atmospheric, cooler boss battles, you could learn about the environments and enemies by scanning, more story driven, more replay value, way better music, and theres probably more stuff the prime games does better. Super Metroid Is a classic, but it isn't as good as the prime games. People love it more for nostalgia.
Pablo Avila-Remijio I played prime first then played Super and think Super is better
Prime is amazing but its more of a side story in terms of plots in the metroid universe.
I haven't played or seen the hype of super metroid but I can see why its held up and compared to this day
Samus Aran In Cyberoid
Metroid Prime: "Please don't play this alone at night at the age of 10"
Well shit... That's exactly what I did except I was 7
So Batman with daddy issues = Good because it builds character even though he is one step away from going to Arkham.
Samus with daddy issues = sexist because it weakens her by giving her a touch of humanity that being raised by alien birds didn't have.
Did I just miss something? Other M was a good story, my complaint was the controls were odd as hell.
Bob Miplace Just to clarify...By "daddy issues", are you referring to Samus and Batman's parents being killed?
Silent Hero
Yup and Samus's relationship with Adam obeying his every order which just screams "let me please you daddy"
Bob Miplace Just wanted to make sure before replying so there's no confusion.
The difference between Batman and Samus's "daddy issues" is how they're handled. My knowledge on DC comics is limited but from what I know, Batman's parents' murder is what shapes him to be the superhero we know him as. He wanted to stop the crime in Gotham and make sure no one else suffers the same fate.
Samus's parents are killed by Ridley and the space pirates. According to Other M, she suffers PTSD from that event. The problem being that, even though she has defeated Ridley multiple times, she still doesn't get over it and doesn't grow stronger as a character. (Ignoring the fact how Other M contradicts the previous games.)
Batman learns from his traumatic past and uses it for good. It's the thing that shapes his character. In Other M, it's only used as a temporary plot device for drama and suspense, only to be quickly discarded. She doesn't even get to kill Ridley.
Silent Hero
Use it for good? Batman is as mentally ill as the people he catches. You are talking to a man who more or less "doesn't kill" and seems to be surprised that they escape Arkham and go after him causing more damage. If Bruce wanted to do good, he would had Joker killed like the movie universe. Then become the Daddy Warbucks of Gotham.
Samus meanwhile lets go of the past and looks toward the future unhindered by emotional baggage which she drops in Other M. Samus solves her problems with planetary destruction, astleast Samus seeks to end the causes of crap. Sure Ridley wasn't killed but Ridley like Joker will haunt their heroes forever.
No... the story was awful. You can't compare Batman to Samus in Other M. Batman is a stoic badass and Samus is supposed to be a stoic badass. Other M threw that personality out the window and made her something she isn't. A highly skilled galactic bounty hunter that kills cthulhu monsters should never have been depicted as she was in that awful game.
Why the fuck are you making a storyline video while not finishing any thoughts cause of spoilers? It's a metroid game not Game of Thrones, you basically just narrated the opening cutscenes to each game. I dunno how that's a story I wouldn't have known about..
Jackson Woods Just like ordering a cheeseburger without cheese. Your sister knows about that ;)
Ever Trejo such a immature insult
SYMBOLISM! SYMBOLISM! SYMBOLISM! LOOK AT THE GODDAMN SYMBOLISM!!
Bewbs...............
I'm watching this video nearly 3 exact years after it was originally made and seriously, the difference between the sound quality is huge!!
0:34 That's one lucky Metroid
I love how you call them Jelly fishes lol
Actually, aside from other m, no metroid game has ever insinuated samus had any feelings what-so-ever for the baby metroid.
Fun fact: Mother Brain was created by the Chozo to protect and nurture planet Zebes. In the Metroid Manga (which is canon) Mother Brain and Samus knew each other.
Also the ONLY big part of other M that made sense was Samus's reaction to Ridley returning. She has killed him AT LEAST 3 TIMES before Other M. He literally killed her family, murdered her parents, and then helped to kill her family again. That breakdown was completely logical and justified. She pretty much has PSTD from the bastard.
Cruznick06
I don't understand how you can argue that it's logical.
As you said, she has already killed him several times by now.
She didn't have a problem with it then, why should it be a problem now?
Her mental problems tied to Ridley are also seemingly resolved in the manga.
It shouldn't come as any suprise to her that Ridley is back yet again.
If this game was placed ealier in the timeline I could let it slide, but every game except Fusion takes place before this one. She should be a battle hardened veteran by now, not some brat in need of saving.
This scene in the game just seems like a lazy way to create drama and tension.
Another thing: wouldn't it make more sense for her to become enraged at the sight of Ridley if she had PTSD?
Instead she breaks down and doesn't even finish him off at in the end..
Slasken25 I agree that Samus should've become ANGRY at Ridley's appearance. Would've made more sense. In fact, it might be kind of cool if Samus had something of an obsession with killing Ridley (you know, after murdering her family and all). It would be kinda like a "Captain Ahab/ Moby Dick" kinda thing. I dunno, just a thought lol
RogueSoldier117
That actually could be really cool. I just like to think other M is an alternate universe Samus. Its based off of a comic that got retconned so the personality of the characters (excluding Ridley) isn't necessarily canon in the video game's universe.
RogueSoldier117 Dude, that'd be badass.
Can you imagine her saying ""To the last, I grapple with thee; from hell's heart, I stab at thee; for hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee."?
6'3 198 Ibs. with or without the suit!? O.o
Jack O Without!
Treesicle Damn!
Treesicle But I thought it said with the suit... I need to replay to read.
***** Da muscle.
***** she is still 1000x stronger than any normal human
1:14 I am pretty sure that is before she decided to her own thing.
It probably sparked drive to be a independent bounty hunter.
I don't believe that Other M irrevocably tarnished Samus and the Metroid series as a whole. I think that the Metroid series would be better of without Other M's story(although an improved retcon that fixes the problems with the story is fine by me), but the game itself isn't all bad. The story is where 95% of the problems lie, since the game is enjoyable to play as long as the sensemove doesn't decide NOT to work when you need it most. Outside of the story I give the game a 7.5. As a huge Metroid fan though, it is still a guilty pleasure of mine.
The only thing you didn't really mention it that the Power Suit is a part of Samus' body in some way(although I think that you at least alluded to in in some way), to the point where she can turn it on and off at will. I don't believe that Samus requires the Zero Suit in order to wear the Power Suit since she didn't need it in the canon manga, but still. Pretty good video I have to say.
I agree with your opinion of Other M. Imo it would of been a fine title on it's own, but it didn't really fit as a Metroid game.
I believe you're right about the Power Suit. It's great to hear some excellent insight and we're glad you liked the vid! :)
Other M is a different canon. A comic canon.
The "zero suit" isn't a special suit, it's just another layer of clothing, pretty much like underwear. And the name zero suit has never been used in the Metroid series, only in Smash Bros.
PiesCanFly From what I can tell, the Zero Suit is basically the lowest form of defense the Power Suit can provide since you can still use Energy Tanks in the latter portion of Zero Mission. It's basically like underarmor that soldiers wear in real life in order to put on their gear. I'm not completely sure if Samus is required to wear the Zero Suit in order to activate the Power Suit since Samus was wearing some formal attire in the manga and activated the suit under her clothing. I understand what you're saying, but whether or not Samus needs the ZS to activate the PS is one of those unexplained phenomenon that Nintendo has yet to reveal, you know?
Eh, Other M kinda said that Prime wasn't canon. BULL CRAP, People don't play Super Metroid, they play prime 1,2,3.
Man you and your team are all awesome, as a huge Metroid fan (been that for years) I already knew most of this but you put it together flawlessly. Also you defined Samus beautifully and even discussed the duality inherent to the character, all of that in an entertaining way that felt serious. And Other M sucks I skipped that shi... Keep up the excellent work man.
What a great comment, thank you so much man! We're gonna do our best to keep it up, I promise that!
Samus is a total badass but like every other human of course she has fears. It's hard not to have PTSD after what happened, but I feel other M made her seem too emotional
I'm sure it's been said...
SR*-388
Many times... Many ways
actually, if you read all the events that lead up to it, it makes sense, her first job wasn´t to kill mother brain, thats her first job as a bounty hunter, as a galactic federation soldier her past is unclear. Look up PTSD and then tell me that seeing ridley come back from the dead, and the fact that it slaughter humans all around her when she was a child, having to hide to survive is not enough to get her freaking out. If you don´t like the portrail of the character it´s fine but, It does make sense.
+Felipe Griffiths Well, she saw Ridley revive thrice already. She fought him once in Metroid, then saw him revive as MetaRidley in the Remake Zero Mission, then saw him revive again in Super Metroid.
And thats not counting the Prime games (three popular titles which Other M doesn't regard as cannon) which add a least one other appearance and revival.
Shes been fed this stimuli of facing Ridley at least 3 times before, so there's no surprise at Ridley return.
So that begs the question, why hasn't she had a breakdown before? The game failed to give a proper reason for it.
Now if she was having an existential crisis in Other M having flashbacks of the assault on her home planet mixed in with the lives of Metroids and aliens shes taken throughout the series, maybe linking into the idea that she will always have to continue killing and no matter what Ridley or Metroids or whatever else out there will always return.
If that were the case PTSD woulda made for an awesome plot device and totally woulda made sense, but the story wasn't built up like that, the plot device leaned on solely her being surprised that Ridley was back.
In other words, its not that she had PTSD its the fact that the story was poorly
"Please don't play this alone in the dark while 10 years old." ...I sure wish someone told me that before I played the original Metroid.. The music for Norfair and beyond CREEPED me out as a kid.. Gave me nightmares, even.
Mind fucking BLOWN!! That was seriously the hardest thing for my mind to process and it totally changed my perspective of samus! Thank you!
Wow, that's awesome! Thank you for the fantastic comment!
Everyone who is watching this video is learning the full story of Metroid and Samus.. I was curious, so I watched it. You know what I learned? That my nerdy-self already knew everything in this video since I was 9... Yeah, I've known the entire story for 11 years, and then caught up with the Prime games when they were released.... Geez....
Seriously I think Samus needs her own movie. That would be one badass movie.
Hey everyone! Check out our new video Master Chief: The Story You Never Knew. It's like this but with a dude. th-cam.com/video/dZPNLqg3EeQ/w-d-xo.html
You forgot about the Phazon bird DNA was injected in her to make her more athletic and more flexible than any other being
GabrielDoesMinecraft You're right GabrielDoesMinecraft, we forgot to include that. We'll be sure to include it in the next one. Thanks for the correction ;)
please note that in other m samus has post tramatic stress disorder so...
Alex Gates
What's Other M? Is it something that's not crap?
Its a manga where ridley comes back from the dead to kill samus after killing her parents
SIMBOLISM!
SIMBOLISM!
SIMBOLISM!
LOOK AT THE GODDAMN SIMBOLISM!!!
Ok so samus's backstory sounds so much like the anime golden age
If you are going to tell someone's life story, you kinda have to explain everything, and not avoid "spoilers". They are part of the story which some people will never know or get to, and they happened to come here to hear about it. Other than that these are great, good stuff.
Ok.
You didn't mention the fact that she has Chozo DNA in her as well. Or atleast I didn't notice it.
+LeafTheDracoPlays yeah! that is were part of her superhuman abilities come from
+LeafTheDracoPlays You're right. She does have Chozo DNA and he forgot to mention that. I'll do a quick explanation for those who don't know because it is an important reason that he left out for some reason. The reason why she has the Chozo DNA in the first place is because when she was taken to Zebes, Mother Brain (yes, she was created by the Chozo as an artificial intelligence, and was later corrupted by the Space Pirates) noticed that Samus would not survive the harsh atmosphere, so she was given genetic modifications to be able to survive; the consequence of this was that she would have the ability to bond with Chozo technology (and by the way, this is also the reason why the Energy Controller bonded to Samus in Prime 2: Echoes, because the Luminoth are related to the Chozo and have linear technology to them), thus giving her unique access to her suit.
One other thing he didn't mention, which also ties into this one, is that the Metroids were actually biologically altered by the Chozo to fight the X-Parasite. They became domesticated by the Chozo, which means that Samus had a different perspective than the universal misunderstanding of these poor creatures. When the Space Pirates took control of them (he also mistook the reason why the space pirates controlled them; they weren't to be used as soldiers, but rather as an energy source for them because of their mysterious energy-siphoning abilities; since the species is nomadic, despite the home planet they have as seen in Metroid Prime 3, they need a portable energy source, and even go so far as to increase the energy output by infusing them with phazon in several instances), the Metroids became feral and a force the Space Pirates just couldn't control. So when the Federation gave the bounty of killing all the Metroids on Zebes (because they feared the Space Pirates would use them as weapons against the Federation), one could argue that Samus said she would do it alone because she was the only one who had that connection with them. The Chozo were supposedly wiped out or otherwise ascended, and she was the only living remnant of their culture. Therefore, there was no one else who should do it--or perhaps even could do it. This also goes to point out why Samus took such motherly interest in the baby Metroid and spared its life. She had a connection with the creature that no one else could.
Adam was the first human she encountered after rejoining the Human Race and was the only one for a long time to treat her normally and not with fear or hostility.
I haven't played other M, but from what I've seen it looks very awsome. The final boss has some really cool cutscenes in my opinion. I don't know why everybody hates it.
My main problem, the Samus in Other M is not the Samus in other games... And it isn't because she is showing emotions and dealing with problems.... it is that she doesn't is way to dependent on her "superior" when other games would indicate she doesn't care what they say and they tried to add some sort of sexual tension between them but it just came off as her being, not a woman but a tiny girl.
***** FINALLY!!!! FINALLY SOME1 NOTICED THAT TOO!!!
***** Yeah ignoring the weird tank turning in first person, it is pretty fun.
FORMINCRAFTIA Even in fusion she killed Ridley! It was just X Ridley...
***** beat'm'ups/ old school run and guns in a nutshell.
if we just believe that other m never happened maybe it will go away
"Fundamental similarity of between every form of consciousness"
I think this. This is what metroids are.
I have a god damn question. HOW DOES SAMUS REMAIN IN HER SUIT WHEN UNCONSCIOUS? I thought it took immense concentration and im pretty sure the saying "its so easy i could do it in my sleep" was just that, a saying. Because surely when she falls unconscious she would be left without the suit and potentially the whole of Metroid fusion would never have taken place...? Apart from the over used "we made more metroids" part
+Kalept I think it was because before the X Parasites had already corrupted her power suit before she fell unconscious
but that wouldn't really explain why the power suit remained on her body, unless somehow the metroids could replicate what took samus years of rigorous training
+Kalept What I take it is that the suit works more as an ON/OFF switch instead of a "press and hold" button to work....
hey treesicle is there any way you could make a Starfox the story you never knew video? please say you will
Samus is a half Metroid, half human now. Metroid Fusion explains a lot & it also shows that if she was to take off the suit, we'll get a Samus that looks like Metroid 3 Corruption Samus when we allow her to be almost corrupted. Her skin will either have some blue throughout some body parts or completely blue all over.
that was rather beautiful. thank you
BuddhaBebop Thanks for the compliment! It's always great to hear comments like that =D
Treesicle youre welcome. granted i never played other m but a friend of mine who adores teh metroid series was utterly disappointed with submissive characterization of an erstwhile badass like samus. i think his main complaint was samus "unlocked" abilities by receiving permssion from her superior which ofc breaks not only traditional upgrade mechanics but turns samus into a bimbo
BuddhaBebop And yet no one remembers Fusion which came right after Other M chronologically. You were ordered around as well on that YET NO ONE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THAT. What would make other M fit more is have a prequel before M and after Super to explain why Samus can't be trusted and must be restricted and "ordered" around as she is in both games. Adam is indeed the AI too in Fusion as well btw.
I do not totally defend M as I hated its game play controls and over all difficulty and the fighting moves crap that did not fit her, more than its story which in itself was badly presented with no explanation for things and most of it should belong in another game, perhaps before Metrod 1 /Zero mission such as her breakdown vs. Ridley and the back story as a new recruit. Most players of M never read the canon manga of her childhood etc on top of it all.
There should have been a prequel explaining why the federation treats Samus like she is treated taking orders from the GF and not allowed to use her full arsenal.
Something had to happen between super and Other M to warrant that and which continued into Fusion after she had her new suit with everything locked away yet again.
One good thing that came out of Other M and was reinforced in Fusion, was the G.F. is just as soulless and evil as the space pirates willing to re-breed metroids and make unstoppable weapons all the same.
There is also that Metroid Dread idea that never surfaced that was hinted in MP3: Corruption.
Treesicle Don't believe him he's 9.
This was pretty garbage, the voice was boring the jokes were stupid you really need to work on it if you have any desire to grow this channel because there are far better storytellers in this youtube game.
TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, I think Metroid: other M is actually in fact a Prequel to the Metroid storyline, meaning Metroid: Other M predates the events of the NESes Metroid!
klinton kavanagh ...even though it heavily references events from super metroid and metroid 2? yeah ok
Lieutenant Tentacles it's obvious someone made a mistake in the story/lore and mixed something up!
+klinton kavanagh No its not. In the very beginning of the game we are told/shown that Other M takes place after Super metroid because its after Samus's adventures with the baby metroid. The only game that Other M predates chronologically is Metroid Fusion... granted the whole Ridley PTSD thing would make more sense if it was the ifrst encounter since her parents rather than their like forth
MonteCreations OBVIOUSLY YES IT IS, someone at Nintendo messed up something in Other M, and NO MATTER what you all say everyone hates the game because of it, AND F.I.Y. it feels more like a prequel then a sequel!
klinton kavanagh so that means you're not technically speaking
My favorite single part of this is 4:47-4:48. Best depiction of beating a dead horse all year.
Is it just me or does Samus sound like Barbie some times? XD
It would have been already better if she would have had a more serious and probably a bit deeper voice.
No deeper voice. She needs to have a better voice actress, is all.
I give kudos to Treesicle for giving us an interesting video on Samus and providing some depth for our favorite bounty hunter (Sorry Boba), however I was a bit turned off on how he described Samus in the first few lines. Not so much that she is sexy (one look at her in the Zero Suit and that should be blatantly clear) but by "strong and independent" from 0:06-0:07. Before anyone who might read this throws the sexist card at me, please hear me out.
While I agree that strong and independent are good traits for any protagonist to have, is anyone else getting sick of these two traits being slapped onto every description of female protagonists in gaming? Male protagonists such as Mario, Link, Sonic, Male Commander Shepard, Master Chief, and Nathan Drake are hardly described as just strong and independent, they also usually receive an in-depth analysis on what makes them great or not. Yet Lara Croft, Female Commander Shepard, Princess Zelda, Samus, Bayonetta are always "strong and independent." The word "empowered" is often used as well. Due to this overuse, anytime I hear a female character described as strong and independent, I immediately assume the reviewer has very little to talk about and is merely saying "strong and independent" to avoid analyzing the character. Who is she? What are her goals? What are her hopes and fears? "Strong and independent" is no longer good enough. Also, this apparent avoidance gives me the impression that since this character is described just like any other female protagonist, then that must mean she is unoriginal and that she brings nothing new in terms of characterization.
Fortunately, I already knew Samus is pretty cool and a great character to play as. However, to avoid making female protagonists sound bland, does anyone else think that reviewers should focus on other traits of heroines (no, their bods are not the "traits" of which I speak, but they are a nice bonus) besides "strong and independent? They're good, but such qualities should be a given about a protagonist and we as the audience shouldn't have to be told they're strong and independent in order to believe it.
The biggest thing that really annoys me with the whole "strong and independent" description and the people with that mindset and where they make a big deal out of a female character being someone like Samus, or Female Commander Shepard, or Lara Croft, or whoever...those same people that praise those characters turn around and start bashing anything that isn't "badass". Other M being a prime example, it always feels to me like these people expect the female characters they go around labeling "strong and independent" to never have or express any kind of weakness at all and to never be any kind of emotional except angry...
Honestly, I think that female characters should just stop being focused on period, there shouldn't be any sort of quota on game characters fitting specific check-boxes or ideals, the story is just going to suffer or the player is going to otherwise be distracted from the game itself by a social/political agenda. Now don't get me wrong, I'm all for having more female characters or more of any specific kind of character really, but I *don't* think it should ultimately matter. It shouldn't matter whether the player character is a man, woman, robot, black, white, purple...all that should matter is whether or not it's a good/well-written character.
This video does use the phrase "strong and independent" a lot. But in this case I think its justified, because saying a female character is "strong and independent" feels spot on when you're talking about Samus. And when you think about it, that's all we really know about her as a person (that is if you decide to ignore the events of Other M like the author of the video did).
Rebooted Lara Croft is better.
Though you have a good point.
So. Pretty much more detail? Ok
Reboot Lara being better? Hardly. Classic Lara had something iconic that drew fans to her personality. Reboot Lara is just...Katniss, without being Katniss.
lmao "better watch out for daddy's little girl"
Personally, I feel that Other M was a shame and others might agree too. It totally spoiled Samus' character and did sh*t to the controls. All I can do is hope that the Switch revives Metroid and fixes Samus' character.
Yasaal Abrar prime 4?
Nomad 2145 Although I would love another Prime, I feel it's time for a new *proper* reboot as Metroid really needs that. A new game would also reintroduce the series to newcomers too...
Yasaal Abrar i would looove a multi platform metroid with godly graphics and gore
Nomad 2145 Bruh, nothing I would want 😂
Yasaal Abrar Nibtendo might be trying to trigger kids with her...In Japan she stands next to mario and Kirby. and waves and shit...So yeah...I hope Nintendo fixes it but who knows. .Pleasing your fan base us what keeps a franchise alive.
I'd like to see a Metroid live-action film someday. Scarlett Johanssen could play Samus.
No,
Katee sackhoff is a better choice
They forgot that Samus was born out of a Choso egg first. It says that in metroid prime.
so technically speaking, at the end of the metroid games is Metroid fusion right? in which samus's body gets mixed whit the x parasyte so she cant take off the suit anymore? my god thats so sad... so if nintendo wanted to make a new metroid game and choose to continue the timeline, samus would look as in metroid fusion...?
please excuse my lack of english and nice video, i had no idea about samus backstory.
+Shirogane your english is perfect and assuming Nintendo decides to make another Metroid Game (it's been 6 years now) and this new game takes place after Metroid Fusion then yes they would continue what she looks like at the end of Metroid Fusion.
+Shadowstar1922 "Perfect"
+Shirogane The DNA is a part of her whole being, she doesn't need the suit on to be safe from the parasite. Her body now can actually consume them, in an ironic twist.
+Shirogane well at the end of fusion they show images with the new suit and images with her without the suit implying she can take it off however this also implies the fusion suit is permanent since it's a part of her(and her dna *gasp* symbolism)
Doesn't This guy seem kinda creepy...
Just me?
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SYMBOLISM!!!! LOOK AT THE G**DAMN SYMBOLISM!!! Lmao that cracks me up every time
i personally loved other m, but your show is fascinating non the less
RoleOfQuarters Thank you! Having a difference in opinion is totally cool, we're really glad you could still appreciate the videos!
your welcome, every one has a right to there opinion, its like they say one mans trash is anothers treasure
Thank you, for not criticizing me for having actual feelings.
If you see Master Chief, tell him that I loathe him.
Samus Aran I mean, I really hate Master Chief
***** "Spartan"
yeah, you know
its almost like she was, like, inspired by Ellen Ripley
If you mean the heroine in Aliens, then I say yes. The original game was greatly based on Aliens, with her eternal nemesis named after the movie's creator, Ridley Scott. Fun fact, yes?
+Radley1982 I think the original comment was talking about that.
her dna was altered to be half chozo which is part of why she is the only one to us their armor
Please...we all know that Other M is just an Alternate Universe, it never really happened. d^3^b
chaosngelx yea. fun gameplay though.
Angel of Death Light and Darkness I think it's funny how they tried to portray her as a soft and caring person, who doesn't really want to kill. Yet she proceeds to kill her enemies in the most gruesome and cruel way. XD I'm okay with Origin stories, when it's done right...this wasn't.
I actually like the idea that Ridley is female.
+Luke Jolly ridley is a female???
Izzy1UP It's not confirmed, but I like the idea.
+Luke Jolly I always just thought Ridley was for some reason :D
+Luke Jolly As we can't know much about his species, it could be whatever we want.
+Luke Jolly Sounds that Kraid is female too
"...something more complex??" [insert rubik's cube] haha
***** You mean there's a timeline that makes sense?!?!
Yeah, the timelines always been clear. Metroid 1/Fusion, Prime Series, Metroid 2, Super, Other M, Fusion.
***** Metroid Other M sort of ruined Samus's image.
Raheem Plummer
Big time. The only consolation is that Fusion is chronologically after Other M, and in Fusion she's alright again.
Raheem Plummer NO Samus Aran's image was ruined by those her horrible gay armor's what she is wearing.
ShadowFalconPictures
Fusion Suit didn't happen in other m, therefore it ruined nothing.
SA-X > Dark Samus
Bovine Joni nah. if you scan the pirate lore in MP3 you find dark samus is an absolute badass who singlehandedly enslaves the space pirates and almost defeats the galactic feeration at the end of the game
+Bovine Joni Dark Samus is technically the strongest character in the Metroid Series.
Enforcer Ridley Just because a log "said" it did some cool things doesn't mean anything. Nothing to top how the fear set in as the SA-X was near and the music went silent so you could hear its footsteps off-screen unbeknownst to you which direction it was coming from. Especially when the SA-X took chase after you, no scripted scene or data logs can beat the actually running for your life as Samus Aran the world feared bounty hunter who took panic to escape the dreadful SA-X. The best part about it was that it happened in real time, meaning a scene didn't decide if you survived this encounter or escaped you were responsible for your own survival. Probably the coolest moment in Metroid besides baby metroid coming back to save your life.
Dark Samus just has more personality then the SAX and is just in general more sinister
One minor detail. Since her DNA is now fused with metroid she is now suseptable to cold. Just as the metroids were weak to the ice beam
Metroid Other M shitty story epic visuals and gameplay *sigh* if only we could skip every cutscene it would be worth replaying =I damn u Nintendo
Admit it you guys. You clicked this video because of the thumbnail ami right?
IronSnake88 Yeas.
Yep
but wouldn't that mean she is an alien???
Well yes, she was infused with Chozo blood as a child, which made her grow into her superhuman adult stature. Then she was infused with Metroid DNA in Fusion, then the SA-X fused with her at the end of the game. So it's hard to say what Samus is now, definitely not human that's for sure, but definitely still a hero.
True that
Metroid other M was such a disappointment.
+dudeinparadise it's only dissapointment that it didnt show us more. some enemies where pointless to bring into the game... ehem... phantoon... but the plot was solid in places. think about it. mother brain. walking among us as a cyborg. blending in as melissa bergman. Adam Malchovich showing up. samus's biggest father figure since old bird. his sacrifice to destroy the cold resistant metroids. Adam was trying to protect samus because he knew she could die trying to stop them from taking over the UNIVERSE.
also one thing most people don't know is that the planet zebes that samus was trained on had 960x earth's normal gravity and after fusing with chozo dna she was able to move swiftly through that environment.
Ehh...you forgot Zero Mission...
True, however, Zero Mission is the same story as the first Metroid game (plus that part at the end).
I hate feminism as much as everyone, but Samus' character wasn't ruined in Other M because she was shown to be passive and demure per se, but because that was NEVER her personality to begin with! Samus has always been sexy, and I'm perfectly fine with that, but not what Other M did!
you don't even know what feminism is you incel bitch
Now Samus is becoming a Disco Queen!!! You may scream now, thank you.
Not one single REAL metroid fan considers Other M to be a real addition to the series. They make Samus look like a whiny little child in that horrid game, when she is supposed to be a badass veteran space bounty hunter.
Sooo... I'm not a real fan even though I've played every game through about 3 times 100% (including AM2R and Other M) and it was one of the first game franchises I ever played? Smh
Also it seems like everybody who criticizes Other M's story doesn't understand character development or the effects of PTSD on the mind, no matter how hardened the soldier (bounty hunter in this case). I mean she did see her parents murdered before her eyes at a very young age, that's got to scar anyone.
danboom101 I 100,000,000% agree
Male characters are sexualized all the time. You put a bikini on a female character and everyone loses their mind. Jeez. They even complained about it in smash 4 and shulk was in boxers...and cap falcon wears skin tight suit. Nobody says a thing. Grow up people and stop the ridiculous inmature bullshit.
Well said Masticatious. Although I do think you were exaggerating with that Lara comment. There are far more Gay male/straight female fans of Lara these days, then any straigh male gamers. Or maybe, that's just my perception.
To be fair I feel like it makes sense that Samus had PTSD
Fun fact, Today In 2016, Treesicle is probably 24, I know this from 7:54 he says, "Please Don't Play this alone upstairs at night at the age of 10. Please really Don't." Metroid prime was realesed in 2002, if he was 10 in 2002, he would be 24, in 2016. But I don't know when he started playing this beast game, so I don't know.
my theory is that the Chozo created the metroids for whatever purpose just like anything else created in the universe. That's why the metroid suit was so compatible with samus, Metroid Fusion says it all. It was the 2nd time she had to work together with metroids to fight evil beings in space. And yeah I know, some of them tried to kill her, but it's not like that have any kind of subconscious because they were taken over by phason in Prime 3.
You have to consider that Other M is right after super, where Samus watched the baby she bonded with sacrifice itself to save her from mother brain. She's obviously depressed by this and is in a very unstable emotional state during Other M, and at the same time she's surrounded by figures from her past, back from when she was naive and rebellious. She saw Adam as a mentor and father figure as well as her commanding officer, he had the right to authorize her powerups because it was his mission, she just answered a distress call, not to mention it's following the Metroid formula to strip Samus of her powerups at the beginning of the game. She freaked out over Ridley because he had died for good in super, as the Ridley from Other M is a clone.
the reason that samus and the baby metroid formed a bond is because some metroids that hatch from eggs tend to imprint on the first thing they see, so when the metroid hatched it mistook samus for its mother, and when she realized this, samus could not bring herself to kill it despite the fact that she had already killed all the others. it just shows that samus is not cold or ruthless. underneath her armor is a human being like the rest of us
fun fact, i think its in the fusion instructions that we learn the meaning of the word "Metroid", which means "Ultimate Weapon", so after the event of fusion's intro, samus effectively became the Ultimate Weapon herself, hence the title of the game... SYMBOLISM!!! ;D
i'm not sure if you've ever been in or even known anyone who was in the military but here's the first argument to burst your bubble. Samus was enlisted in the galactic federation before she became a bounty hunter. While being a badass on all accounts she can't do anything without an explicit order. In fact during the scene where she was asking to receive an order to leave and help (1:15) she could have been detained and/or dishonorably discharged for speaking out of line and attempting to go over an officer's head. Being ignored and other treatments like this pushed her into becoming a bounty hunter who doesn't play by anyone's rules but her own. Fast forward to the events of Other M where she invades a GF mission without permission simply because she knows that the rules will get them killed. The GF is one of her most stable employers so if she does anything to piss them off she loses a paycheck, therefore she should either leave or play by the rules. When she realizes that the team that she is working with is dying and Adam has been doing sketchy things this whole time she starts unleashing her suit's potential without permission because she doesn't need it. Which lead me to the final point Adam's death. The scene where she is screaming for Adam to not go is when she gets to see her 3rd father die. Samus has little to know memories about her birth father (try to remember when you were 3 really hard and see if you can recall everything), and Old Bird died before she enlisted in the GF along with the rest of the chozo. Adam has been the closest thing to a father that samus had since her last two have died, and now she has to watch him die. Now think of someone that you care about, now think of that person dying, now think of another person you care about just as much not imagine you have to watch that person die and you can't do anything to stop it, not tell me you won't be emotional. Other M doesn't change Samus from being a badass it just makes her more human. It has one of the best written stories of any game to come out in the metroid series and is arguably better than most games that came out around that time. That was my rant; like, comment, and subscribe (he said quizzaciously).
she has to make a whole bunch of metroids to save the whole universe from parisite X
The best representation of Samus Aran that i ever saw was in a fan made movie called Metroid: Sky Calls, she isn't all that "please, let me do this", like a wimpy anime character, she looks more mature and colected, also not so edgy as folks may want her to be (a thing that soy boys usually think of strong independent womans), she is just a methodical woman who takes caution when but keep calm, she looks logical and reasonable there, that is my blueprint for a good Samus Aran
I like her respresentation in that small short piece.