@@simplyfitness892her being bland when it comes to her emotions and kinda being blah is probably because of a wish she made during the Great Hunt to not let her emotions get in the way of her duties
@@m_the_third It's not "how powerful you are", it's "how many people are as powerful or more powerful than you". When you're already in the big leagues at anything, it's a huge difference being among the top one percent, or in the top 0.000001 percent. Depending on how steep the curve is at the top, it can say a lot.
Biggest crime was changing the original red war void walker lore entry. It’s basically another guardian watching Ikora going absolutely berserk, launching the most insane Nova bombs at the attackers, there’s a line something like “I thought I was a warlock… Until I beheld Ikora Rey”
The streets were chaos. We fell under Cabal bullets and blades; red was the color of the day. Everywhere, red. Darkness found me three times that day and each time Ghost woke me, I woke to ever more red. I looked to the sky, but even there I saw nothing but the red reflection of a civilization burning to ash. Hope faded with the last of my Light; this was where I would meet my final death. A flash of violet pulled my eyes from down sight. A Cabal ship careened out of the smoke, burning black-indigo. And I saw her, riding the wing, but she was gone in a blink as the ship smashed into the earth. She reappeared in the middle of a legion, and in a second half-heartbeat, rose into the air and dropped an explosion of void the likes of which I'd never seen. I had believed I was a Voidwalker… until I beheld Ikora Rey.
It’s important to remember that when Calus had his Psions imagine possible futures, one that he had in mind was having the Guardian (Us, the player) as his Shadow, where we got into a battle with Ikora that forever damaged Mars itself from the fighting between the two of us.
Wait, so the meme about how The Guardian raided spoils from Calus' flagship while Calus wrote fanfiction about The Guardian is 100% spot on for what went down following the death of Ghaul?
Remember, during the Red War when she was lightless on IO, Ikora took on an entire battalion of cabal with only her shotgun then proceded to beat them with said shotgun after she ran out of ammo.
Which is insane as 3 is already 99.87% of all guardians. In essence, Ikora is so rare that she is a statistical unlikely. If we were to use a One Sample T-Test and use the value of Ikoras power, she would actively prove the Null true. In other words. She is such an outlier that she should not be able to exist. The funny thing is, despite how statistically unlikely it was to have ikora in the first place, we had three separate guardians of relatively equal power existing at the same time. Ikora being 1, Osiris was the other, as proven by Twighlight Gap. Lastly though, is our very own Guardian. But our Guardian could be considered even more unlikely and rare, as despite being on par with Ikora, we are only a decade old, and she is centuries upon centuries. We are an even more unlikely happening because of this.
@@barstool9156Behold! I am the most accomplished Guardian ever! I’ve slayed Gods and have rampaged through my enemies both in the battlefield and Crucible! *misses a jump in a regular strike* Guardian Down (again).
@@barstool9156 Not quite. She’s not so statically unlikely that she shouldn’t exist. They go over this in the document itself actually. “Given that millions of Guardians have been activated over the centuries since the Collapse, and assuming that performance of Guardians on these metrics is normally distributed, we would expect about ten Guardians of similar power to have existed. Probability favors IKO-006's existence but also her rarity: she is neither an average Guardian nor evidence for some special intervention by the Traveler. Complaints that her talents are overblown or inflated in order to reinforce her authority, or that she benefits from the special favor of a higher power, are sorely mistaken and ignorant of basic statistics. (These complaints come from the same people who ask why we haven't reconquered the whole solar system with our vast strength, forgetting how many Guardians are either in abeyance after exhaustion, still working on mastering their first subclass, or already committed to the protection of populations and resources here on Earth.)”
@javier-qs2hd enjoy what? Listening to Hawthorne on the perch on repeat talking about beating Ghaul for the last 7 years straight? No wonder her hair fell off
She is the reason why Shaxx has a Limp. Still one of Ikora's best quotes "I tried to talk them down. They made a grab for my ghost. It was a short conversation"
@@happyspacefun3796bro orix is one of the hive gods you think ikora wants to try and fight a god? If she did then maybe during that time she was having to deal with a bunch of paperwork or other missions and needed you to do it in her stead
Ik it’s been 7 years. But I still can’t get over how in the red war everybody was ready to go out in a blaze of glory except her. “I have one life left. And I’m scared to lose it” meanwhile Cayde and Zavala were on the front lines ready to die. On some Spartan at the Hot gates type shit
And that shows you the differences in them beautifully, she learned and earned her powers, they are gone now, she is scared hell I was as a warlock maim, but Cayde and zavala trust themselves more then their power, zavalas strength and caydes nimble mobility. That's why when we went to nessus we had to remind of her will and knowledge
@@luanjose1034 being scared is quite fair. immagine spending your whole life learning and mastering something only to loose it all in a second, I wouldbe quite upset, especially if that lost something was the only thing I thought to be good at.
I actually switched from hunter to warlock because of her she is such a cool powerful character I really hope we get to see how strong she really is and have her go all out on screen
@@Vertix07911we don’t need to be. Ikora has “nothing more to teach us”, Saint-14 states we are stronger than him, Savathun was willing to and confident that she could beat Ikora in a fight when Ikora threatened her but backed down once our guardian stepped in. We haven’t been assessed because it’s best left up to everyone’s own interpretation of the lote
I like to think our guardian is canonically the strongest, we killed several gods, weild light and dark and whenever things go bad, the vanguard send us. My head cannon is they call us guardian not because we are a "guardian" but we are THE guardian, defender of the light, the tower, the people ect
Can you continue to make more bite size shorts like these byf? They are fun to watch and really stir a lot of good commentary from fellow lore heads I’m Also binging the ever living hell out of them….so there’s that
I think saying Ikora “learned and earned” her power is also key to understanding why the Guardian seems to be on her level as one of the strongest Guardians in history - both of them canonically beat Shaxx in separate 1 v 1 duels. The Guardian is very young compared to Ikora, but they basically gained centuries of experience in a short time. Waking up in Old Russia led to facing the Fallen, which caused them to encounter the Hive, disrupt rituals on the moon, led to the Exo Stranger and being strong enough to end a Gate Lord. And of course Mars and the Black Garden. The Guardian got stronger and stronger essentially in a trial by fire few other Guardians have faced, to the point that the Traveler chose them to receive visions leading to the reclamation of the City in the Red War. They were only the “chosen one” because they were really the only one for the job.
yah and you could say we are in the top 0.0000000000000000000000000001% of guardians. We have put down Crota, Oyrx, Riven, Savathún, Rhulk, and Nezarec. We have acquired and mastered all 3 light subclasses along with stasis and strand, and soon we will be able to use all of them with prismatic. We have also got more reality bending abilities such as the splicer, awoken magic, and hive arcane magic. we are HIM 😤
Ikora is badass. Since D1, as a Warlock main she was always my main quest giver and inspiration. I’ve heard other dudes, might of been Shax or Saint, joking about how they wouldn’t even go against her in the crucible coz she is lethal. Good to see you Byf, I haven’t been playing much lately so haven’t really stopped by your channel but was cool to see you here in Shorts randomly, I hope to see more, it’ll probably get me to reinstall it and grab the latest DLC
I love that acknowledgment at the end, the fact that she wasn't inherently a special human that was chosen but instead grew into her potential. It really feels like it both honors how long these characters have been alive and the experience they've gathered, and the fact any Guardian could eventually reach her levels or beyond with the right support. It feels like a better version of Sword Logic, honestly.
@@sternguard8283 it's a real thing called Bomb Logic. Sword Logic is finding the quickest and simplistic solution, while Bomb Logic is finding the longest and most complicated solution
She also has a conversation with Mithraks. Admitting that while she’d thought she knew so much about the Light and the Traveler, she realizes she knows so little. But, the smartest thing you can do, is admit you know little to nothing. Perhaps this mindset may result in Ikora learning Prismatic. With that power, Rulk, Calus, Savathun, Oryx, even Nezarec, could be slaughtered easily by Ikora.
Ikora is my favourite vanguard. Portrayed as a calm, collected character who only acts when she needs to, effortlessly analysing whats happening around her and seemingly putting 0 effort into what she does
God I hope we get a moment in final shape with Ikora, Zavala and Cayde fighting as a fireteam, the only time we've seen their teamwork was when protecting civilians at the start of the Red War. I just wanna see them kicking ass together
and it was DAMN cool seeing ‘em all band together like that. be a shame if they somehow missed that making a scene with Cayde-6, Ikora Rey and Zavala kicking ass one last time would be a BANGER scene.
What we need is a damn anthology show like we got for the halo anthology anime. We need a destiny anime of the vanguard and other legendary guardians and their stories
She literally ripped a hole into the infinite forest and has one-shoted large enemies in-game. Even Cayde had dialogue alluding to how strong she is. If you didn't know how powerful she is, you're either new to the franchise or weren't paying attention.
She ripped a hole into the infinite forest and held it open for a pretty considerable amount of time, and she did that after essentially a glance. Meanwhile Osiris who often IS considered the most powerful guardian needed years of research into how to manipulate the forest into allowing people inside
@@hotpeiceoftoast6377 Osiris was a legendary guardian for sure, but even he had admitted that Ikora has bested him He's said before that Ikora is who he believes is the best choice as warlock vanguard
Its pretty cool to think that regardless of Ikora being that powerful Savathun wasn't at all scared of her when they were face to face, but she is afraid of The Guardian. It really shows how far above the rest of the cast the player is.
@@h13n12 This. Savathun is very old and very arrogant. When she infiltrated the tower she believed that she learned all there is to know about us guardians and as a result of that she also learned pretty much all about ikora's history and her power level. She even praises ikora's strength in the season of witch. Although if it came down to a scuffle I still put money on our sage voidwalker.
@@h13n12deffo this. Ikora deffo has the strength to beat savathun but she's probably planned for that contingency. We though? We are so unpredictable because we don't really follow vanguard rules or teachings. We do whatever the hell we want.
I think what people do forget when they read that line, is that Savathûn is a liar and a manipulator. She also knows about Ikora from her time as Osiris, so she’s absolutely try to play down any threat Ikora might pose to avoid the fight, one she’d probably lose if we’re being completely honest, in the first place. However, this would not work on the Player, because by this point she’d already been killed by us, which would explain why’s he immediately caves, she knows the play isn’t gonna work if she’s called out on it.
“Don’t let them promote you because while you are there you can make a difference.” -Captain James T. Kirk explaining the Captain Jean Luc Picard the importance of being Captain of the starship Enterprise, “Star Trek: Generations. In many ways this makes me frustrated that we promote guys like Ikora, Cayde, Shax and others past the point where their skills can be put to the most use. Sure Ikora is no stranger to field work but I can think of a handful of instances in which she could be out fighting instead of doing administrative stuff in the tower.
Her administrative work involves managing the Hidden. Shaxx is responsible for making Guardians stronger through the crucible. You need intel to know where to point your big guns at. You need to have better Guardians because you can't place the main character everywhere at once. Considering how many of the Last City's successes in the past few years involved people and groups working with Ikora (such as everything involving Eris) it is clear having her in a leadership position was vital to the City surviving as long as it has.
@kurtisl051 Thank you! Ikora is a perfect example of someone who truly grew and matured into a leader. All of her lore from her early years paint her as a wild hothead, someone who ran purely off of emotion and raw power. Yet we see her as a voice of reason, a leader who controls a vast intelligence network, and one of the best planners and strategists in the City. Ikora fought through her character arc, learned her lessons, and matured into an amazing leader. Even Osiris admits that Ikora is a better leader than he was. Without her and Zavala leading the Vanguard, the City would have already fallen.
They don’t need Ikora in the field. They have the Guardian for that. Ikora and the Hidden find the targets and fire the bullet named the Guardian at it. Ikora is more useful putting her big brain to work leading the warlocks.
It only makes sense to have the strongest in charge, that way they can pass their knowledge down Ikora may be strong, but she'd gladly lose her rank as 5th sigma guardian if it meant making the guardians in general as strong as she is
I think someone did some research to find out what level her intellect would have to be at in order for her to change supers as quickly as she did in the Season of the Splicer cutscene, between her throwing Nova Bomb and then going into Nova Warp shortly afterward. But honestly, I’m pretty sure she’s changed supers much more quickly than that, such as in the WQ campaign, where she Nova Bombs an ogre, then just a few seconds later, creates a THREE-PRONGED CHAOS REACH that even WE can’t do.
in the lore we can actually do that, in the lore the guardian is actually much more powerful then the game play. in the lore guardians can use all the powers of the light regardless of class(a warlock can use a titan's ability or the best example is the hunters learning how to blink from warlocks)
@@h13n12nah-ah, using light abilities regardless of class can only a few guardians. Some can learn 1 or 2 abilities from another class but Most of them tied to their class. Even Drifter says that it stupid to have a class system in the first place, when you can learn anything.
@@raritybelle6876 Yes and no. The development of classes and subclasses was what gave the Iron Lords the edge over the Warlords because it gave the Iron Lords a way to focus their light abilities.
What's even more crazy, is that she met with an Ahamkara and wished it to change her. I assume from the way it's told, it changed her whole freakin brain chemistry to be less emotional and more calculating like a straight badass.
i've heard the only other person to do back-to-back supers in the lore was Osiris when he genocided the remainder of Crotas lineage, but it also lost him Sagira so...
Man, she did more for the City than zavala in the witch queen, she learned how to use the darkness to get the answers she need so we can defeat savathun in her campaign.
Honestly it would make sense if Ikora was revealed to have prismatic before we got into the traveler. The amount of times she's pulled out two different supers at once is not less than one and it's been separate elemental supers before. Edit: Good points being made the prismatic is the mixing of light and dark. I will add though that Ikora and any guardian who can do this in lore is complete BULLSHIT. I wanna have those powers :(
Prismatic is specifically the ability to use dark and light at the same time, which apparently no one’s done yet (canonically). It is perfectly lore accurate for guardians that have mastered the different light elements to swap between them on the fly/at the same time
@@Hyperiumon Zavala has become open to Stasis, Ikora has been meddling with Strand. Once again, Primsatic as the subclass is Lore Accurate Guardians who have mastered multiple subclasses and can revolve around them in a blink of a eye. Osiris has done it, so has Ikora. The difference comes from Transcendence and Transcendence alone, the ability to combine both specturms of Paracausality into something more and rise from the separate universal domains.
I can honestly see her be our Prismatic guide who eventually learns to wield Prismatic after watching us and learning with us. Just how Orisis helped us with Strand and learnt to wield too afterwards
I actually would/would've loved a Warlock specific quest to take the power assessment. Sure, we've killed monsters, kings, queens, gods, and concepts... But I actually want to know where we stand in both the light and dark vanguards. Yes, there's a dark vanguard everyone: Drifter, Elise, and Ana are the three.
yes the lone wolf is special... ikora is BEYOND that and worth more to the vanguard alive than throwing her at what amount to suicide missions Ikora's ability is knowledge aka ability to summon light based on intricate details of information of the world around her the lone wolf's ability is literally being able to survive WITHOUT key information aka winging it which would be ikoras downfall. this doesnt mean the guardian is stronger, but we are more suited to these types of missions. the player-character is basically winter soldier thrown into impossible missions and succeeding beyond expectation. and then we do it again. we excel at nothing but adaptation and, for lore reasons, our deaths are inconsequential.
@@funk3nst3inyou wrote all of that just to watch the guardian no diff her and make her into a gun. Have you not raided? Seen the entity’s we have brought down?
@@funk3nst3inthe guardian is more powerful than Ikora tho, during season of the witch she was about to nuke Savathùn's ass into oblivion before we intervened, which led her to back down. You don't do that with someone you know you will win against. We also mastered two darkness abilities faster than any other guardian, and will master prismatic in TFS which as far as we know might be the most powerful paracausal power in the entire universe, that will effectively put us leagues above any lightbearer that's ever lived.
@@ForTheViolence i have actually not done a raid... ikora is shown chain linking supers. she's limited to void ill give you that, but ive never seen the guardian be able to pop supers consecutively. im going off cutscenes and lore entries. im not mynameisbyf so id like to know if my awareness of her strength is off. and yea i typed all that just to say ikora specializes in knowledge of light... but the guardian kinda just makes it up as they go. like obi wan kenobi style: they are lucky af
@@Breadlootgoblin i think we have to define "powerful" before going forward. for light based power, ikora is vanguard for a reason. for ability and potential, the lone wolf goes above and beyond. ikora acts as an agent of the traveler so she has more authority, and more than enough skill/prowess to back it up. that is the definition of power. the guardian is an agent of the vanguard: if they went rogue, i have little doubt it would be a short lived rebellion with the full force of zavala, shaxx, and ikora (thus, crow, eris, mithrax, et. al.) coming down on them. ikora has authority over the guardian and therefore more powerful. the guardian is most likely next in line to assume the vanguard because of our exploits but for now they are literally NOT as powerful as any vanguard leader.
I never had any doubt Cutscenes have shown us what she does when she's even slightly ticked off Her calm demeanor is to prevent her from randomly nuking things out of minor frustration.
I love Ikora I was a hunter so Cayde was my “mentor” in D1&2 yk of course they still in da game and reading all the lores ikora was my favorite just bc of her character I love Zavala and Cayde but man Ikora. Literally the best.
The player character: I fight world ending beings and gods for a living can you say the same, I’m literally holding a Gun made from the Essence of a God! Ikora: Magic Missile
This is a good example of "Show don't tell" not enough people appreciate this about Ikora because she's locked up in the tower most of the time, and when she's out, while her feats, while impressive, compared to a normal person, arn't to far above what the player can do, or what is shown to be be an average power level
I'm glad that they included the fact that she wasn't resurrected with the power, she developed it over time. This means all Guardians have the potential to achieve the same power, which is the opposite philosophy of the darkness/sword logic.
Osiris's teachings probably also helped a lot; whether you argue that he's one of the most powerful guardians or not, he's still incredibly knowledgeable, and his mentorship likely helped Ikora grow from a very strong Guardian into one of the strongest in the system, in my mind at least.
My guess is we are a bit lower than Ikora. Our Guardian IS powerful, but even in the areas of the campaings where we can spam abilities, we couldn't spam supers the way Ikora does.
Likely to be the most powerful Guardian to ever exist. Ignoring the gameplay limitations, if you look in the lore, The Young Wolf has done EVERYTHING. Canonically done every raid, every dungeon, every strike, killed every boss - The Young Wolf is a fucking machine.
@@dreadangel3752 And not to mention that the Young Wolf has done this in less than a decade, whilst other guardians who have done legendary works have been here for years.
She is definitely my favorite vanguard even as a hunter main. She moves the story forward in a way other characters don’t. Zavala with all due respect is sometimes rlly one dimensional and although I love cayde and he’s rlly cool that’s rlly all he is. Ikora feels like someone you can genuinely look up to because when she doesn’t know what to do she’ll say it. When she’s been outsmarted she’ll say it. But her curiosity and power will always keep her going. Not to mention she’s canonically like top 3 strongest guardians and the leader of what is essentially the gaurdian kings-men.
The funny and interesting thing about this comment is canonically in the destiny universe alot of hunters look up to her and respect her and her hidden agents are mostly hunters if I remember correctly 🤔
@@ricenokimchi yeah, bungie sucks at showing the story in the game, For me, Ikora will always just be a stuck up justice warrior high horse vendor who appears in some cutscenes. (My disdain for her is because she always acts high and mighty when she doesnt do shit, even if she actually does shit and actually has lore, its not in game so pointless)
People forget that right after being rezzed, ikora went straight into testing her limits as a risen. She’s a menace because she is constantly pushing herself beyond her present limits, her beating shaxx is impressive because shaxx beat felwinter with a single punch. Felwinter is Rasputin’s “son” and was more than likely put into an experimental exo frame, on top of being an actual Iron lord who was a menace himself. Ikora is busted
Considering her devotion to her teacher Osirus, its probably a safe assumption that he helped her come into this power of hers. Also -- as a testiment to her power -- in The Witch Queen, we witness her firing off a Nova Bomb, then immediately a Chaos Reach. Who wouldnt love to be able to use two supers in a row like that?
Things like that are always great because of how it retroactively boosts our player character, We, the Guardian, are the most powerful guardian overall, the witness even recognises our power during the final shape and confirms as much that we are far above our peers and it makes sense, we've killed gods, melted armies and frequently go through the strongest opponents just because we want more loot and goodies, look at gambit for one, we frequently just go and murder the deadliest level of taken for sport. We master Void, Arc, Solar, Stasis and Strand, and then smooshed them all together for prismatic... There is a reason why we always end up being sent to deal with any problems...
If her past life Ikora used to be an operator in the tactical squad of team rainbow, her main weapon was a shield modified with tazer that can shoot at enemy operators.
Makes sense why she can cast multiple super back to back. Nova to chaos reach in WQ campaign, nova bomb to nova warp during the end of season 14 for example.
Learned it and earned it That right there is why so many players think Ikora is a badass. She is an appropriate mix of "show and tell" in storytelling via interactions, cinematics, and lore. Other entertainment groups (and media) would do well to study what was done with Ikora.
And yet I’m the only guardian than can slay gods and the witness. She only can speak dialog. Don’t even think she was doing anything in the final fight except dialog of a cutscene
I just wish she would get a truly badass scene where we get to see the depths of her power. Saint, Osiris, and Cayde-6 got to look like absolute badasses.
“She learned it, and earned it.”
Fantastically fitting line for a fantastic character.
She’s the goat at being the most boring character. Don’t care how “strong” they make her still boring af.
@@simplyfitness892 you’re, of course, free to feel that way. Sorry ya don’t enjoy her character as much as I or others do.
Everyone I know hates her.
@@simplyfitness892I like how you saying this is considered "bad," but it's legitimately fine.
@@simplyfitness892her being bland when it comes to her emotions and kinda being blah is probably because of a wish she made during the Great Hunt to not let her emotions get in the way of her duties
Also... she has the longest hair in the vanguard
Not anymore 😅
That's not hair, those are exposed nerves that Awoken use as sensory organs, Shows how tough Zavala is, that he shaves his off to look cooler.
@@Tatooine92 CROW BRINGS DISHONOR UPON THE VANGUARD WITH THOSE LUSCIOUS LOCKS, THOSE SHAMEFUL TRESSES, THAT DISGRACEFUL MANE!
@@domvastabut…but she is not awoken
@@sparkymist crow became the new hunter vanguard
For those wondering, 5th sigma means that she's not just in the top 99%, she's in the top 99.99999%
Yeah, it’s crazy to think that even just 3 sigmas is already at 97%
You know, thats not even a percent more, can't be that much
@@m_the_third It's not "how powerful you are", it's "how many people are as powerful or more powerful than you".
When you're already in the big leagues at anything, it's a huge difference being among the top one percent, or in the top 0.000001 percent.
Depending on how steep the curve is at the top, it can say a lot.
@@cykeok3525 i made a joke, you know
Fucking Nova Bomb and Chaos Reach in the span of 10 seconds, her life is a constant Mayhem mode.💀
Biggest crime was changing the original red war void walker lore entry. It’s basically another guardian watching Ikora going absolutely berserk, launching the most insane Nova bombs at the attackers, there’s a line something like “I thought I was a warlock… Until I beheld Ikora Rey”
🔥🔥🔥🔥
Nah…that’s hard 🙌
if i saw ikora like that im just retiring atp. Shes got us covered
The streets were chaos. We fell under Cabal bullets and blades; red was the color of the day. Everywhere, red. Darkness found me three times that day and each time Ghost woke me, I woke to ever more red. I looked to the sky, but even there I saw nothing but the red reflection of a civilization burning to ash. Hope faded with the last of my Light; this was where I would meet my final death.
A flash of violet pulled my eyes from down sight. A Cabal ship careened out of the smoke, burning black-indigo. And I saw her, riding the wing, but she was gone in a blink as the ship smashed into the earth. She reappeared in the middle of a legion, and in a second half-heartbeat, rose into the air and dropped an explosion of void the likes of which I'd never seen.
I had believed I was a Voidwalker… until I beheld Ikora Rey.
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It’s important to remember that when Calus had his Psions imagine possible futures, one that he had in mind was having the Guardian (Us, the player) as his Shadow, where we got into a battle with Ikora that forever damaged Mars itself from the fighting between the two of us.
Even in the fake future that Calus imagined his scribes knew Ikora was the real deal.
That lore page had one of the hardest lines I've ever read "Their battle turned the sands of Mars to glass, and then shattered them"
Wait, so the meme about how The Guardian raided spoils from Calus' flagship while Calus wrote fanfiction about The Guardian is 100% spot on for what went down following the death of Ghaul?
@@thedannydeathstroke absolutely. You can even check the Fanfiction in-game. It's the lore book called "Chronicon".
@@thedannydeathstroke that meme is 100% lore accurate.
Remember, during the Red War when she was lightless on IO, Ikora took on an entire battalion of cabal with only her shotgun then proceded to beat them with said shotgun after she ran out of ammo.
@LooseDeuce and after a long battle she ...... with her shotgun
The surviving cabal,”🎵She was walking around with a loaded shotgun🎵”
For the record: fifth sigma means five standard deviations above the average, because sigma is the symbol for standard deviation.
Which is insane as 3 is already 99.87% of all guardians. In essence, Ikora is so rare that she is a statistical unlikely. If we were to use a One Sample T-Test and use the value of Ikoras power, she would actively prove the Null true.
In other words. She is such an outlier that she should not be able to exist.
The funny thing is, despite how statistically unlikely it was to have ikora in the first place, we had three separate guardians of relatively equal power existing at the same time. Ikora being 1, Osiris was the other, as proven by Twighlight Gap. Lastly though, is our very own Guardian. But our Guardian could be considered even more unlikely and rare, as despite being on par with Ikora, we are only a decade old, and she is centuries upon centuries. We are an even more unlikely happening because of this.
@@barstool9156Behold! I am the most accomplished Guardian ever! I’ve slayed Gods and have rampaged through my enemies both in the battlefield and Crucible!
*misses a jump in a regular strike*
Guardian Down (again).
@@barstool9156 Not quite. She’s not so statically unlikely that she shouldn’t exist. They go over this in the document itself actually.
“Given that millions of Guardians have been activated over the centuries since the Collapse, and assuming that performance of Guardians on these metrics is normally distributed, we would expect about ten Guardians of similar power to have existed. Probability favors IKO-006's existence but also her rarity: she is neither an average Guardian nor evidence for some special intervention by the Traveler. Complaints that her talents are overblown or inflated in order to reinforce her authority, or that she benefits from the special favor of a higher power, are sorely mistaken and ignorant of basic statistics. (These complaints come from the same people who ask why we haven't reconquered the whole solar system with our vast strength, forgetting how many Guardians are either in abeyance after exhaustion, still working on mastering their first subclass, or already committed to the protection of populations and resources here on Earth.)”
@@yourewrong9028this dude would defend dream
@@barstool9156The Young Wolf, casually killing gods:
Ikora is the only guardian/vanguard we've seen using super twice with no recharge time in between
Nah I think we’ve seen cause do it during the forsaken cutscene
Cayde did in forsaken he used golden gun then blade barrage with like 3 secs inbetween
She even used prismatic before it was invented, and had infinite glide
Must’ve had the nova bomb exotic helm and mayhem activated
Ikora practices what she preaches, keep working and never stop
All she does is stand in the tower, not doing jack shi 😂
@@khaosform8525while I'm knee deep in Fallen Bodies and Hive gods, She's sitting at the tower Staring off into the distance 😂
She was Osiris's student so it not exactly surprising
@@khaosform8525shes retired bro😂😂 let her enjoy
@javier-qs2hd enjoy what? Listening to Hawthorne on the perch on repeat talking about beating Ghaul for the last 7 years straight? No wonder her hair fell off
We need byf to do a top 10 strongest Gaurdians list
She is the reason why Shaxx has a Limp.
Still one of Ikora's best quotes "I tried to talk them down. They made a grab for my ghost. It was a short conversation"
That's the description for the Invective, right?
@@Nautilus472yes it is 🔥
@@benakinnusi2518 Ayy, the D1 memory is still there
@@Nautilus472 My favourite D1 exotic!
Yes it is, Invective Is Ikora's personal shotgun like Ace of Spades is Cayde's personal hand cannon
Ikora was on that shuro chi thrall checkpoint for days
Ikora in lore: badass ultra sigma 🗿
Ikora in gameplay: uuuhh... here, buy your subclass 🤷♂️
Are we forgetting every time she helped us in gameplay here?
Even using two supers back to back or using a void reach somehow?
@@PurpleShadow108 Don't forget one-shotting a giant fucking Ogre
Tbf, that is pretty badass for Ikora to know how Subclasses works and even be able to teach (sell) them to Classes other than Warlocks
@@PurpleShadow108I mean yeah but she could have helped killing oryx or something
@@happyspacefun3796bro orix is one of the hive gods you think ikora wants to try and fight a god? If she did then maybe during that time she was having to deal with a bunch of paperwork or other missions and needed you to do it in her stead
As a crucible main. The lore on her on the crucible and why she never participates anymore sealed it for me
Ik it’s been 7 years. But I still can’t get over how in the red war everybody was ready to go out in a blaze of glory except her. “I have one life left. And I’m scared to lose it” meanwhile Cayde and Zavala were on the front lines ready to die. On some Spartan at the Hot gates type shit
And that shows you the differences in them beautifully, she learned and earned her powers, they are gone now, she is scared hell I was as a warlock maim, but Cayde and zavala trust themselves more then their power, zavalas strength and caydes nimble mobility. That's why when we went to nessus we had to remind of her will and knowledge
@@BuraindoYurei virgin "im afraid" x chad "fuck it we ball"
She was afraid to die because the others weren't. She knew if she died after them, there would be nobody left to lead during the red war.
@@luanjose1034 Fr cayde going out in a blaze be ikora getting lost every new expansion
@@luanjose1034 being scared is quite fair. immagine spending your whole life learning and mastering something only to loose it all in a second, I wouldbe quite upset, especially if that lost something was the only thing I thought to be good at.
I mean our ghost did say “And she’s a sight to see in the crucible”
Think we will ever get to see her in it. A cutscene. I wish.
She's on that guardian grindset.
Based Ikora.
Maybe she's 5th sigma because she's on the sigma grindset.
I actually switched from hunter to warlock because of her she is such a cool powerful character I really hope we get to see how strong she really is and have her go all out on screen
10 other guardians translates into 4 npc’s and then the 6 man fireteam that kills the next raid boss
That is probably true.
Was the young wolf ever assessed in lore?
@@Vertix07911do we have to be? Pretty sure we are the strongest guardian ever.
@@Vertix07911we don’t need to be. Ikora has “nothing more to teach us”, Saint-14 states we are stronger than him, Savathun was willing to and confident that she could beat Ikora in a fight when Ikora threatened her but backed down once our guardian stepped in. We haven’t been assessed because it’s best left up to everyone’s own interpretation of the lote
I like to think our guardian is canonically the strongest, we killed several gods, weild light and dark and whenever things go bad, the vanguard send us. My head cannon is they call us guardian not because we are a "guardian" but we are THE guardian, defender of the light, the tower, the people ect
Can you continue to make more bite size shorts like these byf? They are fun to watch and really stir a lot of good commentary from fellow lore heads
I’m Also binging the ever living hell out of them….so there’s that
I think saying Ikora “learned and earned” her power is also key to understanding why the Guardian seems to be on her level as one of the strongest Guardians in history - both of them canonically beat Shaxx in separate 1 v 1 duels.
The Guardian is very young compared to Ikora, but they basically gained centuries of experience in a short time. Waking up in Old Russia led to facing the Fallen, which caused them to encounter the Hive, disrupt rituals on the moon, led to the Exo Stranger and being strong enough to end a Gate Lord. And of course Mars and the Black Garden. The Guardian got stronger and stronger essentially in a trial by fire few other Guardians have faced, to the point that the Traveler chose them to receive visions leading to the reclamation of the City in the Red War. They were only the “chosen one” because they were really the only one for the job.
Well after all we got the Russian treatment.
yah and you could say we are in the top 0.0000000000000000000000000001% of guardians.
We have put down Crota, Oyrx, Riven, Savathún, Rhulk, and Nezarec.
We have acquired and mastered all 3 light subclasses along with stasis and strand, and soon we will be able to use all of them with prismatic.
We have also got more reality bending abilities such as the splicer, awoken magic, and hive arcane magic.
we are HIM 😤
And we just hit our double digits this year.
I wanna say that I’ve started playing destiny and absolutely love the community
Fun fact. During solstice ikora is the one who's holding up the floating islands.
Damn I didn't know that
She not only holds the EAZ up. She raises the islands herself without the help of anything else.
Ikora is badass. Since D1, as a Warlock main she was always my main quest giver and inspiration. I’ve heard other dudes, might of been Shax or Saint, joking about how they wouldn’t even go against her in the crucible coz she is lethal.
Good to see you Byf, I haven’t been playing much lately so haven’t really stopped by your channel but was cool to see you here in Shorts randomly, I hope to see more, it’ll probably get me to reinstall it and grab the latest DLC
I love that acknowledgment at the end, the fact that she wasn't inherently a special human that was chosen but instead grew into her potential. It really feels like it both honors how long these characters have been alive and the experience they've gathered, and the fact any Guardian could eventually reach her levels or beyond with the right support.
It feels like a better version of Sword Logic, honestly.
You could call it the time logic lol
@@sternguard8283 it's a real thing called Bomb Logic. Sword Logic is finding the quickest and simplistic solution, while Bomb Logic is finding the longest and most complicated solution
She also has a conversation with Mithraks. Admitting that while she’d thought she knew so much about the Light and the Traveler, she realizes she knows so little. But, the smartest thing you can do, is admit you know little to nothing. Perhaps this mindset may result in Ikora learning Prismatic. With that power, Rulk, Calus, Savathun, Oryx, even Nezarec, could be slaughtered easily by Ikora.
@@garrettviewegh9028she'd one tap any raid boss 😂
"Damage phase? I just 3 ulted that mf and they evaporated in a mine mist" 🤣🤣
nowadays she just sits in the tower. unless you saw her in action then you wouldnt know her power.
seen her 1ko a thresher
Ikora is my favourite vanguard. Portrayed as a calm, collected character who only acts when she needs to, effortlessly analysing whats happening around her and seemingly putting 0 effort into what she does
God I hope we get a moment in final shape with Ikora, Zavala and Cayde fighting as a fireteam, the only time we've seen their teamwork was when protecting civilians at the start of the Red War. I just wanna see them kicking ass together
and it was DAMN cool seeing ‘em all band together like that. be a shame if they somehow missed that making a scene with Cayde-6, Ikora Rey and Zavala kicking ass one last time would be a BANGER scene.
id actually love to play the final raid as vanguard leaders playing as: zavala, ikora, shaxx, osiris, cayde and saint would be so hella good
Of course she is. First, the speaker not hearing the traveler gets ret-conned and now Ikora is best girl boss.
We really needed more cutscenes and videos of the vanguard and guardians like Shaxx doing badass stuff
What we need is a damn anthology show like we got for the halo anthology anime. We need a destiny anime of the vanguard and other legendary guardians and their stories
@@halomasterr117 I think a series of shorts or even short cutscenes swtor style would be better
Warlock main for life here, and I never once doubted my vanguard's immense power (and brainpower) for a second. She's so badass.
Ikora so slick with it that it's almost impossible to acknowledge how cool she is cause she makes it look so easy
She literally ripped a hole into the infinite forest and has one-shoted large enemies in-game. Even Cayde had dialogue alluding to how strong she is. If you didn't know how powerful she is, you're either new to the franchise or weren't paying attention.
She ripped a hole into the infinite forest and held it open for a pretty considerable amount of time, and she did that after essentially a glance. Meanwhile Osiris who often IS considered the most powerful guardian needed years of research into how to manipulate the forest into allowing people inside
to be fair newcomers really only see ikora chilling in the tower... which sucks cus she kicked ass in red war but nobody gets to see it now
@@hotpeiceoftoast6377 i wouldn’t say osiris is the most powerful, I’d attribute that to the raid members or maybe saint
@@hotpeiceoftoast6377 Osiris was a legendary guardian for sure, but even he had admitted that Ikora has bested him
He's said before that Ikora is who he believes is the best choice as warlock vanguard
I really wish we could see this in-game. Having her only tossing out the occasional nova bomb ain't doing her justice.
She's also the only guardian we've seen cannonically fly
Osiris
warlocks generally can just fly like that
@@shinhook2k280as a warlock main I'm PISSED we can't do this in game
@@flamingscar5263 you can with heat rising pretty much
"i dont think anyone appreciates just how badass ikora really is" my guy its been mentioned in the lore like 91747273 times we already know
Yep, "ikora's really strong" then they proceed to not show that strength in game , she's so strong guys trust us she's like one in a bajillion
Its pretty cool to think that regardless of Ikora being that powerful Savathun wasn't at all scared of her when they were face to face, but she is afraid of The Guardian. It really shows how far above the rest of the cast the player is.
i like to think that that's because ikora is a planner and savathun is every adept at countering that type while the guardian is more unpredictable.
@@h13n12”unpredictable” and I just thought of the guardian accidentally running into a wall and shooting themselves with a missile
@@h13n12 This. Savathun is very old and very arrogant. When she infiltrated the tower she believed that she learned all there is to know about us guardians and as a result of that she also learned pretty much all about ikora's history and her power level. She even praises ikora's strength in the season of witch. Although if it came down to a scuffle I still put money on our sage voidwalker.
@@h13n12deffo this. Ikora deffo has the strength to beat savathun but she's probably planned for that contingency.
We though? We are so unpredictable because we don't really follow vanguard rules or teachings. We do whatever the hell we want.
I think what people do forget when they read that line, is that Savathûn is a liar and a manipulator. She also knows about Ikora from her time as Osiris, so she’s absolutely try to play down any threat Ikora might pose to avoid the fight, one she’d probably lose if we’re being completely honest, in the first place.
However, this would not work on the Player, because by this point she’d already been killed by us, which would explain why’s he immediately caves, she knows the play isn’t gonna work if she’s called out on it.
She is literally the reason why I became a warlock main and got into the lore of them
I hope we get to see all the vanguard be total badasses in TFS
Me too
She is just humble now. If we could see a glimpse of her from the past, we would see a different character.
“Don’t let them promote you because while you are there you can make a difference.” -Captain James T. Kirk explaining the Captain Jean Luc Picard the importance of being Captain of the starship Enterprise, “Star Trek: Generations.
In many ways this makes me frustrated that we promote guys like Ikora, Cayde, Shax and others past the point where their skills can be put to the most use. Sure Ikora is no stranger to field work but I can think of a handful of instances in which she could be out fighting instead of doing administrative stuff in the tower.
Its the irony of success.
Her administrative work involves managing the Hidden. Shaxx is responsible for making Guardians stronger through the crucible.
You need intel to know where to point your big guns at. You need to have better Guardians because you can't place the main character everywhere at once.
Considering how many of the Last City's successes in the past few years involved people and groups working with Ikora (such as everything involving Eris) it is clear having her in a leadership position was vital to the City surviving as long as it has.
@kurtisl051 Thank you! Ikora is a perfect example of someone who truly grew and matured into a leader. All of her lore from her early years paint her as a wild hothead, someone who ran purely off of emotion and raw power.
Yet we see her as a voice of reason, a leader who controls a vast intelligence network, and one of the best planners and strategists in the City.
Ikora fought through her character arc, learned her lessons, and matured into an amazing leader. Even Osiris admits that Ikora is a better leader than he was. Without her and Zavala leading the Vanguard, the City would have already fallen.
They don’t need Ikora in the field. They have the Guardian for that. Ikora and the Hidden find the targets and fire the bullet named the Guardian at it. Ikora is more useful putting her big brain to work leading the warlocks.
It only makes sense to have the strongest in charge, that way they can pass their knowledge down
Ikora may be strong, but she'd gladly lose her rank as 5th sigma guardian if it meant making the guardians in general as strong as she is
A single player narrative game of just Ikora learning and Earning her place as the Warlock Vanguard would be awesome.
I think someone did some research to find out what level her intellect would have to be at in order for her to change supers as quickly as she did in the Season of the Splicer cutscene, between her throwing Nova Bomb and then going into Nova Warp shortly afterward.
But honestly, I’m pretty sure she’s changed supers much more quickly than that, such as in the WQ campaign, where she Nova Bombs an ogre, then just a few seconds later, creates a THREE-PRONGED CHAOS REACH that even WE can’t do.
in the lore we can actually do that, in the lore the guardian is actually much more powerful then the game play. in the lore guardians can use all the powers of the light regardless of class(a warlock can use a titan's ability or the best example is the hunters learning how to blink from warlocks)
@@h13n12nah-ah, using light abilities regardless of class can only a few guardians. Some can learn 1 or 2 abilities from another class but Most of them tied to their class. Even Drifter says that it stupid to have a class system in the first place, when you can learn anything.
@@raritybelle6876
Yes and no. The development of classes and subclasses was what gave the Iron Lords the edge over the Warlords because it gave the Iron Lords a way to focus their light abilities.
The three pronged chaos reach was void and in curse of osiris. The ogre into a chaos reach was arc and a single beam.
please send me the deets on that. i want to know the maths.
Definition of hardwork pays off
What's even more crazy, is that she met with an Ahamkara and wished it to change her. I assume from the way it's told, it changed her whole freakin brain chemistry to be less emotional and more calculating like a straight badass.
Makes me proud to be a warlock main. However many hundred(s) of years she's been around she didn't squander her time.
Ikora earned my respect when she used arc and void supers back to back in witch queen. That was some witchcraft.
i've heard the only other person to do back-to-back supers in the lore was Osiris when he genocided the remainder of Crotas lineage, but it also lost him Sagira so...
Man, she did more for the City than zavala in the witch queen, she learned how to use the darkness to get the answers she need so we can defeat savathun in her campaign.
Honestly it would make sense if Ikora was revealed to have prismatic before we got into the traveler. The amount of times she's pulled out two different supers at once is not less than one and it's been separate elemental supers before.
Edit: Good points being made the prismatic is the mixing of light and dark. I will add though that Ikora and any guardian who can do this in lore is complete BULLSHIT. I wanna have those powers :(
Prismatic is specifically the ability to use dark and light at the same time, which apparently no one’s done yet (canonically). It is perfectly lore accurate for guardians that have mastered the different light elements to swap between them on the fly/at the same time
@MsPoopyinthepotty I'm not a super massive lore buff but ad far as I know, not of the vanguard have darkness based abilities
Ikora can use deep sight which is a darkness ability, but beyond that she doesn't use any of the darkness subclasses @@Hyperiumon
@@Hyperiumon Zavala has become open to Stasis, Ikora has been meddling with Strand.
Once again, Primsatic as the subclass is Lore Accurate Guardians who have mastered multiple subclasses and can revolve around them in a blink of a eye. Osiris has done it, so has Ikora.
The difference comes from Transcendence and Transcendence alone, the ability to combine both specturms of Paracausality into something more and rise from the separate universal domains.
I can honestly see her be our Prismatic guide who eventually learns to wield Prismatic after watching us and learning with us.
Just how Orisis helped us with Strand and learnt to wield too afterwards
I actually would/would've loved a Warlock specific quest to take the power assessment. Sure, we've killed monsters, kings, queens, gods, and concepts... But I actually want to know where we stand in both the light and dark vanguards.
Yes, there's a dark vanguard everyone: Drifter, Elise, and Ana are the three.
I think Eris is technically on there too. Since she was part of the Vanguard until the Hellmouth
The player character is a 5th Ligma guardian.
Who the hell is the player character?
EDIT: I love that only one person got the joke
@@dreadangel3752LIGMA BALLS
@@dreadangel3752 is, the players of course
@@dreadangel3752 Our Guardian
that is the actual official name
@@sargeantbuzzkilNOO!
“Ikora rey is the strongest”
*the guardian:*
yes the lone wolf is special... ikora is BEYOND that and worth more to the vanguard alive than throwing her at what amount to suicide missions
Ikora's ability is knowledge aka ability to summon light based on intricate details of information of the world around her
the lone wolf's ability is literally being able to survive WITHOUT key information aka winging it which would be ikoras downfall. this doesnt mean the guardian is stronger, but we are more suited to these types of missions.
the player-character is basically winter soldier thrown into impossible missions and succeeding beyond expectation. and then we do it again. we excel at nothing but adaptation and, for lore reasons, our deaths are inconsequential.
@@funk3nst3inyou wrote all of that just to watch the guardian no diff her and make her into a gun. Have you not raided? Seen the entity’s we have brought down?
@@funk3nst3inthe guardian is more powerful than Ikora tho, during season of the witch she was about to nuke Savathùn's ass into oblivion before we intervened, which led her to back down. You don't do that with someone you know you will win against.
We also mastered two darkness abilities faster than any other guardian, and will master prismatic in TFS which as far as we know might be the most powerful paracausal power in the entire universe, that will effectively put us leagues above any lightbearer that's ever lived.
@@ForTheViolence i have actually not done a raid... ikora is shown chain linking supers. she's limited to void ill give you that, but ive never seen the guardian be able to pop supers consecutively. im going off cutscenes and lore entries. im not mynameisbyf so id like to know if my awareness of her strength is off.
and yea i typed all that just to say ikora specializes in knowledge of light... but the guardian kinda just makes it up as they go. like obi wan kenobi style: they are lucky af
@@Breadlootgoblin i think we have to define "powerful" before going forward. for light based power, ikora is vanguard for a reason. for ability and potential, the lone wolf goes above and beyond.
ikora acts as an agent of the traveler so she has more authority, and more than enough skill/prowess to back it up. that is the definition of power.
the guardian is an agent of the vanguard: if they went rogue, i have little doubt it would be a short lived rebellion with the full force of zavala, shaxx, and ikora (thus, crow, eris, mithrax, et. al.) coming down on them.
ikora has authority over the guardian and therefore more powerful. the guardian is most likely next in line to assume the vanguard because of our exploits but for now they are literally NOT as powerful as any vanguard leader.
“She learned it, and earned it.”
She is quite literally the anti-thesis to Rey from star wars
Id love to see lore about testing The Guardian's Power.
That's my vanguard, warlock mains for the win.
Darnit, beat me to it.
I never had any doubt
Cutscenes have shown us what she does when she's even slightly ticked off
Her calm demeanor is to prevent her from randomly nuking things out of minor frustration.
IKora will always my favorite warlock she’s so iconic
... is the only other warlock we know Osiris?
i legitimately cant think of another named warlock
@@theirishviking9278toland, felwinter, asher mir
@@TheApophis141 always forget that felwinter was a warlock
Hard times create strong people,
Good times create weak people.
This says a lot about what she went through in her storyline.
She’s so mysterious in some ways. So cool
I love Ikora I was a hunter so Cayde was my “mentor” in D1&2 yk of course they still in da game and reading all the lores ikora was my favorite just bc of her character I love Zavala and Cayde but man Ikora. Literally the best.
The player character: I fight world ending beings and gods for a living can you say the same, I’m literally holding a Gun made from the Essence of a God!
Ikora: Magic Missile
She's the older big sister to all Warlocks!
Ikora after Nova Bombing an ogre then using a Kamehameha on a door in a span of 5 seconds while flying:
🤫🧏♂️
😂😂😂😂😂
Meanwhile our guardian killing worm gods like it's a normal tuesday
She can fly. She. Can. Fly. WE can't even fuckin' fly, and we've been beatin' the breaks off the Darkness going on 10 years.
Yeah, but Eager Edge skating
This is a good example of "Show don't tell" not enough people appreciate this about Ikora because she's locked up in the tower most of the time, and when she's out, while her feats, while impressive, compared to a normal person, arn't to far above what the player can do, or what is shown to be be an average power level
I'm glad that they included the fact that she wasn't resurrected with the power, she developed it over time. This means all Guardians have the potential to achieve the same power, which is the opposite philosophy of the darkness/sword logic.
We know she’s awesome that’s why we keep asking to see her more in the story
Osiris's teachings probably also helped a lot; whether you argue that he's one of the most powerful guardians or not, he's still incredibly knowledgeable, and his mentorship likely helped Ikora grow from a very strong Guardian into one of the strongest in the system, in my mind at least.
shaxx mentored her too i think
Meanwhile, my warlock gets absolutely folded because that's just how it goes.
This makes me wonder what our guardian would be scaled
My guess is we are a bit lower than Ikora. Our Guardian IS powerful, but even in the areas of the campaings where we can spam abilities, we couldn't spam supers the way Ikora does.
@@bluemanjr1152 Valid point.
@@bluemanjr1152 Yeah but we can chalk that up to gameplay. Lore-wise we have killed several gods even an ahamkara and now possibly the witness.
Likely to be the most powerful Guardian to ever exist. Ignoring the gameplay limitations, if you look in the lore, The Young Wolf has done EVERYTHING. Canonically done every raid, every dungeon, every strike, killed every boss - The Young Wolf is a fucking machine.
@@dreadangel3752 And not to mention that the Young Wolf has done this in less than a decade, whilst other guardians who have done legendary works have been here for years.
Ikora was in the crucible grinding hard. Nobody was stepping to her.
She is definitely my favorite vanguard even as a hunter main. She moves the story forward in a way other characters don’t. Zavala with all due respect is sometimes rlly one dimensional and although I love cayde and he’s rlly cool that’s rlly all he is. Ikora feels like someone you can genuinely look up to because when she doesn’t know what to do she’ll say it. When she’s been outsmarted she’ll say it. But her curiosity and power will always keep her going. Not to mention she’s canonically like top 3 strongest guardians and the leader of what is essentially the gaurdian kings-men.
zavala has had MUCH more character development than her, have you seen season of the haunted?
@@kojeb in TFS yeah. This comment was before that tho
The funny and interesting thing about this comment is canonically in the destiny universe alot of hunters look up to her and respect her and her hidden agents are mostly hunters if I remember correctly 🤔
I dunno, she just never really clicked for me. Even when I was a warlock main
That’s in stark contrast to me who has been in love with her since D1 Beta 😂
sadly cause bungie doesnt really do the characters justice outside of lore
they kinda just...stand there..
@@ricenokimchi yeah, bungie sucks at showing the story in the game, For me, Ikora will always just be a stuck up justice warrior high horse vendor who appears in some cutscenes. (My disdain for her is because she always acts high and mighty when she doesnt do shit, even if she actually does shit and actually has lore, its not in game so pointless)
I NEVER thought I'd hear Ikora be called a sigma this year, specifically with brainrot existing.
People forget that right after being rezzed, ikora went straight into testing her limits as a risen. She’s a menace because she is constantly pushing herself beyond her present limits, her beating shaxx is impressive because shaxx beat felwinter with a single punch. Felwinter is Rasputin’s “son” and was more than likely put into an experimental exo frame, on top of being an actual Iron lord who was a menace himself. Ikora is busted
Ikora in lore: the most badass guardian
Ikora in gamplay: *teacher*
Maybe because she was involved in like 2 cutscenes for the past 7 years lmao
She is probably the only Guardian capable of talking us out if we go rogue.
She's one of the most powerful doorstoppers. The only thing she has ever done in game was open doors for us and the Vex.
Didn't forget when she blitzed that ogre for us in witch queen
@@hunterfrench1283already forgot, it was so far ago, it was just one ogre, we clear whole maps of gm nightfalls, we shred gods, wtf does she do?
@@123deserted Keep the Last City running?
@@zxshadowxz boring implementation
Ikora went so peak Warlock intelligence that she actually circled back to titan mindset of nuking shit at close range
Considering her devotion to her teacher Osirus, its probably a safe assumption that he helped her come into this power of hers.
Also -- as a testiment to her power -- in The Witch Queen, we witness her firing off a Nova Bomb, then immediately a Chaos Reach. Who wouldnt love to be able to use two supers in a row like that?
Her ghost, ophicious, was also a particularly stern teacher
in the lore guardians can actually do such a feat, they just don't in game because of gameplay reason.
Things like that are always great because of how it retroactively boosts our player character, We, the Guardian, are the most powerful guardian overall, the witness even recognises our power during the final shape and confirms as much that we are far above our peers and it makes sense, we've killed gods, melted armies and frequently go through the strongest opponents just because we want more loot and goodies, look at gambit for one, we frequently just go and murder the deadliest level of taken for sport.
We master Void, Arc, Solar, Stasis and Strand, and then smooshed them all together for prismatic...
There is a reason why we always end up being sent to deal with any problems...
doesn't change the fact that every time I talk to her she somehow ends up with all my glimmer.
The lore of this game is astounding
If her past life Ikora used to be an operator in the tactical squad of team rainbow, her main weapon was a shield modified with tazer that can shoot at enemy operators.
Crazy how she just chills in the tower all the time, a ghostless guardian helps more than her 💀
Also in a lore entry in elsies timeline she fought an evil version of our character and the fight splits mars in half
Her beating Shaxx in single combat is impressive enough.
Now I understand why Ghost wonders if Ikora gives hugs to ghosts
"She learned it, and earned it" and honestly does fuck all with it.
Makes sense why she can cast multiple super back to back. Nova to chaos reach in WQ campaign, nova bomb to nova warp during the end of season 14 for example.
She is also literally undefeated in the crucible. She has never lost.
IkoraBae 💜 I can't believe she also does Strand now too 😭😭😭
Learned it and earned it
That right there is why so many players think Ikora is a badass. She is an appropriate mix of "show and tell" in storytelling via interactions, cinematics, and lore.
Other entertainment groups (and media) would do well to study what was done with Ikora.
I wish we saw more of her doing things in-game
And yet I’m the only guardian than can slay gods and the witness. She only can speak dialog. Don’t even think she was doing anything in the final fight except dialog of a cutscene
So basically Vegeta, no plot armor power ups, just straight work. Got it.
I just wish she would get a truly badass scene where we get to see the depths of her power. Saint, Osiris, and Cayde-6 got to look like absolute badasses.
Plus the fact that she can shoot a shotgun with one hand is pretty badass as well
I seen her use 3 supers under a minute while permanently warlock floating and I knew she was off the chain