Sweet run, you have a lot of cool optimizations throughout,and that's some cool info about the 1-3 strat in the description. I was wondering about the feasablilty of just killing off all the characters in the first level and then playing it like normal mode, seems faster on paper unless the faster enemies cause a lot of time loss in later levels, obviously it would be hard to do too
The real issue with killing EVERYONE but Verbal is that there are no continues in Hard Mode, so one tap from ANY enemy means an instant reset. Not to mention, I always believed that best way (spiritually) to play Gain Ground is with character variety, and rescuing hostages if they exist- "No man left behind", as I always said. Honestly, my idea to kill the spearmen was inspired by the 2P TAS: th-cam.com/video/E2t_qbxnAM0/w-d-xo.html They had different timings for their deaths, where it optimized better for overall time, but I just wanted consistently less scrolling throughout the run, considering the number of times I'd be using Archers, Magic, and Guns versus the BFGs and Women.
Killing off every character takes around 2,5 minutes if I remember correctly so it should be easily faster than doing this "100%" approach. You could even do some slower strats has there should be a couple of minutes to spare. It would be a shame if all three categories were basically the same tactics, perhaps an "all character" or "100%" category would be added if someone had the tenacity to perform that run. Nice to see some activity with the Gain Ground speedruns, maybe I'll try to improve my time now that there are some goal times. You should go for the easy category as well.
@@oreb7650 Well, I’m certainly more a fan of Anti-Genocide playthroughs- I mostly made this run in response to the LACK of variety in the Hard category, given before it was basically a Verbal-only spamfest. I like researching strategies and trying new things to break the game’s physics, like throwing tornados at tanks, or big-braining the Wizard spawns with precise magic shots. If 100% categories were a thing, which inherently incentivized utilizing the game’s many characters, I’d gladly try them. I already have a ready “No Man Left Behind” run if we make the category (Normal Difficulty, Save all exit buddies, 2P active to increase the hostage count to 45), and so does @TheGioDude if he’s interested. He inspired my run- and there’s definitely improvements I could make to my best time still.
@@oreb7650 yeah a "kill all enemies" catagory might be nice if hard mode is ever completed with the same strategy as normal mode, right now my goal is to get a deathless run in normal mode but I haven't had much time to play recently. hoping to get back to it soon
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Damn good run!
Always felt this game deserved more recognition. I used to play the hell out of this (still do really!)
Same feelings here- I certainly don't plan on stopping Gain Ground content any time soon!
Sweet run, you have a lot of cool optimizations throughout,and that's some cool info about the 1-3 strat in the description.
I was wondering about the feasablilty of just killing off all the characters in the first level and then playing it like normal mode, seems faster on paper unless the faster enemies cause a lot of time loss in later levels, obviously it would be hard to do too
The real issue with killing EVERYONE but Verbal is that there are no continues in Hard Mode, so one tap from ANY enemy means an instant reset. Not to mention, I always believed that best way (spiritually) to play Gain Ground is with character variety, and rescuing hostages if they exist- "No man left behind", as I always said.
Honestly, my idea to kill the spearmen was inspired by the 2P TAS: th-cam.com/video/E2t_qbxnAM0/w-d-xo.html
They had different timings for their deaths, where it optimized better for overall time, but I just wanted consistently less scrolling throughout the run, considering the number of times I'd be using Archers, Magic, and Guns versus the BFGs and Women.
Killing off every character takes around 2,5 minutes if I remember correctly so it should be easily faster than doing this "100%" approach. You could even do some slower strats has there should be a couple of minutes to spare. It would be a shame if all three categories were basically the same tactics, perhaps an "all character" or "100%" category would be added if someone had the tenacity to perform that run.
Nice to see some activity with the Gain Ground speedruns, maybe I'll try to improve my time now that there are some goal times. You should go for the easy category as well.
@@oreb7650 Well, I’m certainly more a fan of Anti-Genocide playthroughs- I mostly made this run in response to the LACK of variety in the Hard category, given before it was basically a Verbal-only spamfest. I like researching strategies and trying new things to break the game’s physics, like throwing tornados at tanks, or big-braining the Wizard spawns with precise magic shots.
If 100% categories were a thing, which inherently incentivized utilizing the game’s many characters, I’d gladly try them. I already have a ready “No Man Left Behind” run if we make the category (Normal Difficulty, Save all exit buddies, 2P active to increase the hostage count to 45), and so does @TheGioDude if he’s interested. He inspired my run- and there’s definitely improvements I could make to my best time still.
@@oreb7650 yeah a "kill all enemies" catagory might be nice if hard mode is ever completed with the same strategy as normal mode, right now my goal is to get a deathless run in normal mode but I haven't had much time to play recently. hoping to get back to it soon
Very nice run.
Thanks! I'm still disappointed by my 5-9 though.