NEW ATAKHAN REVIVE INTERACTIONS - Karthus, Zac, Sion and More!
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it's just a ga + a teleport to fountain. if ga is coded correctly its unlikely that there will be bugs, although it is riot games so maybe
its pretty much just like dying but no respawn timer and your opponent doesnt get kill credit
@@lillyie no cause when you die kog'maw passive activates...
The description clearly says that you get in a state of stasis and get teleported back to the fountain if your health would drop below zero. So you do not die, so it should be obvious that all the death passives do not get triggered because you never died.
You never know, though. It's worth testing everything because the wording doesn't always perfectly represent the behavior.
If it's obvious than why Zac's passive procs first instead?
@@iszigo50 Because Zac’s passive proc is not a death, it doesn’t count as a kill and champs with resets don’t get a reset like Viego.
I think it's because it doesn't count as a "death"
If you look at the KDA it stays at 0/0/0
So what this buff essentially does is just give you invuln when HP reaches 0 and then "withdraws" your champ back to fountain with full HP.
Neat.
It gives you GA passive, then teleports you to base during that duration of revival. its sleak, simple programing that prevents bugs, unlike the old chemtech soul revival which was a buggy mess!
when they said "like guardian angel" we assume it's like guardian angel and has no special interactions.
so anything shown here is either fully known, or a bug.
then in the dev blog they said it's like Akshan's passive, which is NOT like GA lmao
@@nsfmatios i believe that was referring to how already dead champions are instantly resurrected
well, nobody says anything about the fact that with sion you get GA / ZILEAN / RENATA before passive. It seems pretty consistent technically, but still, if a part of your power budget is upon dying and you go to fountain without that, its a bit strange
Thebausffs will mald with this buff not allowing him to take waves or trade a kill when killed in a sidelane. I assume he'll have a strategy to int differently right after he takes this buff to get rid of it fast
@@Affews100 just execute to tower after pushing wave x)
@@Affews100it only happens at 20 minutes so in that case usually the benefit from respawning faster can outweigh whatever you lost from not having passive. Obviously in some cases this could just completely lose you an objective like baron or even an inhib but on average sion would prefer respawning instantly I think
so exactly how youd expect
Except for Sion one where the buff disappeared
@@loosethread8754 no, people that are dead when getting buff, they won't get it. Exactly like Baron buff. Sion on passive is already considered dead.
Riot gets it right, which is kind of rare
I thought that would be a revive that would still score kill for the enemy, (similar to akshan).
So you would be encouraged to somewhat to not die for free like a npc.
nah this buff is int buff to dive enemy adc then you rush to baron to end
Ekko takes it, gets killed in a teamfight, revives then Ult back into the fight.
It takes 5 secs to revive in the fountain so no that doesn't work
@SahilP2648 why would you ruin my dream..
There used to be a bug where if you used tryndamere R after reviving with GA, you would not be invulnerable. You could actually die while in trynd R (happened to me a couple times, had to stop buying GA on trynd). I wonder if something like that is going to come back?
"Withdrawing" and "Resurrecting" has 2 different meaning.. one both have the same outcome but in different location.
now i need to see a zac with ga getting ulted by zilean while having the atakhan revive, to see wich revive has more prior
can't wait to try, Zilean Ult + GA + Atakhan's revive in a real match xD
Can you pls test ekko R? He might be able to R right back when he died, but idk about timers. I can't think of anything else right now, since revive is kinda long. Akali E2 could be fun but it's too short. Maybe aurora q2? but its lame
Interesting, they gave it an entire new mechanic called "Withdrawing". Clearly it's just a full heal, untargetable/invincible, and a recall in one, but I suppose that means it doesn't count as a death at all.
they coded it right. im happy about it!
Im going to assumee, that akshan revive doesnt work because anyone "killed" witth he passive up doesnt "die" (going of the zombie states) thus akshan passive doesnt apply. Same for viego?
Wait... They've done a revive monster and called him... Attack Akshan?
So it dont reward kills neat the FREE INT BUFF goes crazy
What about while Zac is on his Passive? And his mini slimes are near death, before he comes back alive again?
Personally, I think the priority order should be
- Zombie states (then revived by Atakhan/GA)
- Death prevention effects (Renata, Zac passive, etc)
- Akshan respawn
- Atakhan respawn
- GA
The main reason it isn't like this is due to Sion. Sion would get two uses of his passive if GA applied after zombie state.
if you get akshan respawn before atakhan respawn what's the point. atakhan's buff doesn't stay on death, and you have to die for akshan to revive you. seeing as how they're similar enough anyway, atakhan then akshan imo
Zombie state counts as being dead, so that wouldn’t make sense.
Has it is saving someone from death what is the interraction with Pyke?
Does it just kill the person and doesnt give gold nor the reset since it wasn't a kill (technically)?, Like hitting Anivia/Zac with their passive up or someone with a Renata Bailout ready to activate
I would imagine so just a comfirmation would be nice
looks pretty fair tbh
What if Zac or Anivia die while in their passive?
You miss Aatrox's revive....Oh I forget they remove it,I mean the whole Champion,not just revive
what will happen to this buff if Akshan kills the opponent?
whats up with the hp/mana regenerating so quickly in the zilean clip? also gold generating really fast, is that a new pbe practice tool feature?
It happens if you skip ten minutes.
So, can we have "legendary kill" with this?
No
the funny part is not have bugs
Does it give shutdowns? If not thats kinda crazy
Looks like a GA so no?
@mathi2894 this update just wants people to snowball loo
no it gives 100 gold and some adaptive power
What if zac dies in his passive
turrets needs true dmg instead of physical
what if u die in morde ult with revive?
oh god not the sion. this meta is so abusable to sion i can already tell Baus is salivating few patches away 😭😭😭😭
Akshan ?
If you are revived from Atakhan, Akshan can't revive you, since well, you are revived
zombie state = you died
revive = you didn't die
it doesn't take priority you just don't die
This is a stupid buff, this is on par or even stronger than Elder, because you literally cannot lose a fight with it even if you get aced.
what sum on F key ?
the new teleport
flash
It is teleport it has been changed again so you can target anything at min 0, it now channels for 3 secs than moves you like a hexgate would to your destination, the unleashed version still reduces the CD and gives a speed buff at arrival
@@mathi2894 oooh i see tyvm
What about akshan?
Revives overwriting zombie states feels pretty shit, like man, zombie states are already pretty naff, just deleting them especially for Sion & Karthus feels awful lmao
I mean the champion doesn't die it act likes a GA so it saves you from death so you just don't get the death state since you didn't get into it
They don’t die, that’s the point. The revive is like a GA, why are acting so shocked for?
What if zac died in passive form?
I mean death is death so I would guess he gets the revive of Atakhan
Whelp, typical rito bs with denying some champs their passive.
Nah, the typical rito bs would be all these bugs still being there when this goes to the live servers.
You dumb bro? Its not denying anything, lol.
Because they didn’t die? It is just like ga but you back at fountain.
Their passive trigger at death, but you don't die, Atakhan revive is just like GA, it activates before death so you don't get your Zombie state
@@asdfg5721 The „back at the fountain“ part is the problem here.
In the end it is just a discount death with less respawn time, as you won‘t be back in time for whatever you were fighting over.
Death triggers are generally quite powerful to compensate for the activation requirement and this „buff“ disables them completely.
Just imagine not having to worry about a Karthus passive in a teamfight.
its a no you didnt die not revive
The champions don’t actually die so why would the passives activate?
so that they have the passives during teamfights? zac mains dont want to be teleported to fountain at 30 min baron fights without their passive going off cause someone else killed a monster
@@cc1drt Zac passive clearly activates before it, has it SAVES you from death the other champs die, it takes has a GA would before the zombie state not after
@ yeah same with anivia egg, which ones were u referring to then?
I dont think baus would love that
AmbaTAKHAN
poor sion players
Roshan ??
You realize nashor is roshan backwards right ? (with the sh sound preserved|)
honestly atakhan is so boring, why dont they do like dota2? got damage reflection upon damaging it? so uncreative,raw stats all over
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