I have been searching for 2 hours on how to add the RJ45 connector to my ip cameras. Finally found you. I just can't believe that this info is so guarded, at least it seems that way. Thank you
Global vision is always there to the rescue, its dedication to the industry and helping out fellow technicians especially when trouble may arise is unmatched, looking forward to ideas and solutions!
Awesome video! All your content has been gold. Thanks for doing all this. What do you think of using the hikvision or some other quality branded two wire POE converter together with the injector? Doorbird devices here that I'm dealing with and their converter comes in such a steep cost. Maybe it's worth it, would love your two cents
thanks for thr video ive got a swann ip camera which is able to powered by poe it support 802.3af standard, so is it possiable to use 12v to power on the camera any disadvantage?
My 3rd pair ( white/green ) is damaged in my Cat 6 data drop feeding LTS 4MP Turret Camera. If I re-wire both ends , using your video as my guide, do I still need the 802 injector, or can I simply plug back into NVR as it is POE powered already ??
Best way to check is to take the camera straight to the nvr and connect it with a small patch cord the same way with the 4 wires and test both ways. With extended distance on or off. It may be extended distance just changes the mode which happens to change that setting. But test it comfortably by the nvr.
I’m working a property that has their wireless access points running off of two pairs. Having a hell of a time figuring out why I can get power but no data to the AP
If it's not twisted pair it will not send data. The twists are part of the technology that allows the communication to follow. If it is twisted pair then perhaps the run is too long.
but how can we still get gigabit can we cut 2 wires only? I only need 2 wires for powering up devices that I'll attach to balun with positive and negative polarity so if there's chance to still achieve gigabit connection I'm on the look and don't know what wire numbers like 45 78 should I cut
If I have good quality modem cable (F/FTP, 24 AWG, 6P4C, RJ11) or 2 pair External Telephone Cable, would I be able to use either of these for a POE IP camera setup if I was to I re-terminate with RJ45 connectors?
The cable needs to be twisted pair to send and receive data. The power will usually work. Cat3 24 guage usually will work but you might only get 10mbps. That's usually enough for most Ip cameras. I would reccomend you test it for a few days and see if it works, before you rely on it. There are also many converters on 2 wires (1 pair) that will give you poe as well, that will work with most cable.
My 3rd pair shows open. Can I re-wire both ends the way you show and simply plug back into my 8 port LTS NVR ( as it is POE powered ), or do I need this 802 injector ?
It really depends on the model of nvr if it supports it. I have seen some of the hik style nvrs have an extended distance option, once enable it worked on this node. However , I can not guarantee it .
@@zoeyjune396 Thanks for the quick reply. Looks like this Nvr has extended distance option. Should I turn this on even though my distance is only 90 feet.?
You can connect two cameras ,but not directly in the back of the nvr. The Hik nvr does not support the 802.3af mode a standard. So you need to use a switch that does
@@cctvny You've just mentioned something that has driven me crazy, I have HIKVISION EXIR TURRENT Network Camera DS-2CD2385G1-I 4K 8MP IP POE Network camera and a HIKVISION NVR DS-7600 Series Model DS-7616NI-K2/16P how do I get to use 2 cameras on one Ethernet cable? I've seen many people wanting to know this.
It is only relevant to this video if your broadband router gets power via poe. Your question however does not involve power, and regardless will work with a 10/100 speed
@@cctvny I got a ethernet cable with 4 wires inside it For which my broadband connection speed is limited to 100 Mbps My question is Can I use a normal WiFi router that supports 8 wire ethernet cables ?
Planning to use my previous ADT motion sensors (connected to 4 wires) not sure if it's twisted pair but I do know that it's 4 wire cable. Most of the IP cameras I own support 10/100base t half duplex. I hope this works!!
Hi @jcmarcell unfortunately it most probably will not work if it is not twisted pair. You will get power but data will not work. Your choices are to use an analog HD camera(tvi/cvi/ahd they now go up to 12mp) or to use a two wire to poe converter. If you did go the analog HD route you can get a simple four channel and use it as encoder if you have a larger ip system
@@cctvny I get you, you say it won't work, but in real world scenario are we talking that it won't work over so many feet? I think the longest run is about 70ft and the shortest being around 30ft. I understand the interference when it comes to something not being twisted pair but you don't think 30 ft can deliver 2 megabits with interference?
I will be happy if it works for you. I went down to help an installer with an install and the run he had was less than 20 feet and it did not work. But its in your house so it will be easy for you to test. Let me know the results
@@cctvny hey so you were right, it did not work because it is not twisted pair. It does however transmit power (I guess we know that since the motions were active) and also worked with my ethernet cable tester. But from core switch to aggregation switch didn't do shit lol. It must be way too much data loss at 70ft(which is my rough estimate) Also if I'm understanding correctly, utilizing an analog system would be the copper coaxial cable? I was specifically interested in removing the useless motion sensors and utilizing the cable in the walls for Poe and data. Do you think I could use these for anything else? Edit: what is an encoder? Would I be able to utilize something that can convert the data to usable transmission, and then convert the data back on the other side? I've seen systems that can convert USB data over long Ethernet runs and then convert it back to USB data on the other side. I've also seen ethernet data converted over coaxial and then back to ethernet data.
Thats the beauty it uses the same cable for power and data, different types of signals. Data signals cannot interfere with the power signals since both of the signals are at the opposite ends of the electromagnetic spectrum.
So if data only needs 2 wires & power only need 2 more wires whats the purpose of pulling an 8 wire cable? If the world only used a 4 wire cable think of the $$ that would be saved. & resources. !
So this method would really not be good as a main source for data. I had this pinout going from a switch to a router and it just didn't work. Assuming a full 4 pair is required if you're going to use it for networking and not poe/5MBps
Hey, I am using a fiber net router in of the rooms and there is a 2 Pair (4 wires) connection to another room inside the wall. I have RJ11 sockets in both the rooms. Can I convert them to RJ45 sockets and transfer internet via your method and get not more than 100Mbps speed to another router?
Hi Kevin I think your autocorrect might have changed some of your wording on your first sentence. If you can clarify what cable it is ,cat 5,6 and if your not sure,can you tell me if they are twisted pair at least. If I did understand it you have a 2 pair cable (needs to be twisted) between 2 rooms going to rj11 phone Jack's. If it is cat5 or cat 6 yes you can convert and put rj45 Jack's. If its cat 3 and the distance is not long it can work as well, but I can not guarantee any speeds until you test it. If it is cat3 or even a not twisted cable they make converters that will give you the speeds you need. Also why would you connect 2 routers? Do you mean a switch or a wifi access point in the second room?
@@cctvny firstly thanks a lot for your reply. I was planning to connect 2 routers on two different floors but due to the primitive wiring I was not sure if I would be able to connect them. I am not aware if my wire is Cat5 or Cat3 and it has 'Blue white orange white pairs. I don't know if this helps I am really poor with terminology I am a med student😅
Jason you can not. You may get power but not data. It needs to be twisted for data. I have been to a site that tried this even on a 12 foot run and it did not work. There are converters by companies like altronix and vigitron thet let you use a pair of non twisted cables for poe. If you need this for a cctv solution you can use a tvi/ahd/cvi camera for a 100 foot run of quad and then you can have an encoder or dvr and then import it into a regular nvr as an rtsp stream
Would a 2 pair cat3 cable work to run an ip camera with a portable injector using this method? I ask because I have that pre ran and don't want to rip it out to replace with cat5/6
It really depends if the camera supports the 802.3af Mode A to begin with. Cat3 can usually do up to 10mbps of data. Just verify its actually cat3 and its twisted. Otherwise you will get power and no data. I have seen it done many times for under 100 foot runs
Thanks so much for the fast reply! The cam is a Dahua IPC-HDW5831R-ZE and the spec sheet lists power supply as DC12V, PoE(802.3af)(Class 0). But I can't find anything about the mode. Any thoughts? Thanks again! And the cat3 is twisted.
@@bradpalmquist4163 sorry for the late reply. From speaking to my friends at dahua they said that the 802.3af standard includes both. So if you have the camera already you can bench test it to see if it officially supports it. Doing that won't hurt the camera if it does not
It does on most switches , but here I'm demonstrating 802.3af mode a capable devices, switches and injectors. So to recap the camera or device must support the standard as well as the switch. If you are using an nvr and for some reason one of your camera pairs got cut or damaged durring construction. You can use a poe injector that supports 802.3af mode a and plug the camera into the poe out and plug the data Into one of the camera ports of the nvr. You may have to manually set its ip adress in the nvr and the camera if it no longer finds it automatically. But it saves you from running a new line
@@leem6011 if there is voltage on the brown pair then there will be voltage on the blue pair as well and data will have no voltage on orange and green pairs, which is not 802.3af mode A
Hi good morning, let me asking you something, i got a security camera wit 3 pairs cable, orangewhite, orange, greenwhite, green, redwhite, blackwhite. i need to build a coupler for a regular cable cat5 B, what will be the cross in order to get the camera workin whit power, audio, video? Thanks
@@cctvny , Is a Swann Camera, i was replacement (couple minutes ago) redwhite for brownwhite and blackwhite for brown. i left bluewhite and blue EMPTY... and i start getting video and audio, BUT i'm not sure it's that right?? thanks for your FAST answer Bro
Hi Carlos, From what you are describing to me is the camera you have is an analog technology. It does not communicate digitally the same way Ip cameras communicate. In those cameras usually a pair is for video and a pair for power. Many times in the camera cable itself there are only 3 wires since they share the negative of the camera. From what it sounds like on your camera ,is that it has hd on a pair and a separate analog video as well that when tvi first came out was for spot monitors options to work as well. As for audio I only have seen the analog cameras that are motion sensors or covert that have it built in and that also is a pair of wires, which most times at the root shared a ground as well with the camera and the power. Hope all is working out for you
hey, i will be doing this in 2 days since 1 out of 8 wires is broken with ma 6mp 100mb camera and see if it saves me some big trouble. I saw some more expensive camera on specification saying it support both 100/1000mb . On such camera can this still work with 4 wires ? thanks
You can not get 1000mb which is gigabit speed over 4 wires. And not all cameras support this , and the switch or poe Extender must support this as well. I have seen tvt nvrs built in switches support this protocol but not dahua or Hik.
@@cctvny i dont want to have gibabit speeds, in the dahua camera specs it says 100/1000 so to me it means that it support both. I just tested a 10/100 camera and it works on 4 wires. If the spec of the camere says 100/1000 and not just 1000, shouldnt be compatible with 4 wires too? Can you maybe test such camera and see what happens?
But just got a forum ..they says type B cable don't have poe for cat 6 and type A have poe thats you said ......then buying a cat 6 type B then worth it over cat 5e ... please reply
I am not sure i understand you. But if the question is if you have a non gigabit speed network, can you use cat 5 instead of cat6 for poe 802.3af mode A. But for data mode b still works with 4 wires but you do not need cat6 since you are not going to have gigabit speeds anyway. I hope this helps. If you reply please make sure you have it explained better and that the question spies to an application that requires power on the cable
@@cctvny ok my last question ...all though I don't have a gigabit connection speed but my modem and computer have 8 pin port so in that case will I get advantage over packet loss with cat 6 cable
@@random2059 ,in this instance cat6 only benefit is if it is alot of work to run the cable and you wanted to have something for the future. For your current application if I understood everything correctly, then it would have no benefit over cat5e
Use brown instead of orange. But make sure you do the same thing on both sides. And that you have devices that both support 1236 wiring scheme for 892.3 after modea
@@cctvny so I split my cat6 cable to run 2 CCTV cameras at 200 feet. But the video quality isn't very good. I used passive baluns. Each balun using 2 pairs
@@jaredhussain9565 I can not give you a definite answer since this a completely different technology. I would think if it is an analog HD technology ,like tvi,cvi,ahd that having 2 modulated cameras on the same cable sleeve for distances would be more of an issue. Also if it is Analog HD they have different passive balls to support the resolutions. In addition regarding power are you measuring what you are receiving? Since the camera is 12 volts dc and pulls around 1 amp probably at night , 1 pair of cat cable is not rated to hold that voltage regardless. I would see if you can power it remotely and if your quality improves. As for ip cameras using the 802.3 af mode a 2 pairs are still being used for power at the end of the day, just data is riding over the same cables at the same time. If you see the analog cameras are giving you issues just use ip cameras instead using this technology. Or perhaps if you see more cameras may be needed running the cat5 to a poe powered switch where you can support several more cameras even
That is only for data and not regarding poe, which also provides power for devices like up cameras or ip phones. The cheap router only has 4 wires since it is not gigabit and data only and work on older standard for the data
L.c , the 4 wires work for a limited amount of devices. Also using the 4 wires is not something that you do not do to begin with. It is usually to correct a situation after the fact or to add another camera without rewiring.
@@cctvny i use brodband ...... I conocted only 4 wird after watching your video 4 wire or 8 wire any difference for brodband ? I mean downlod and uplod speed
@@l.c.ahir. for broadband if you use 4 wire your are limited to 100 mbps, if your speeds are higher you won't get it. The video i showed was for powering and data for mainly camera applications
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Thanks for simplifying that for us. I followed your advice and diagram and had my camera working in a short while.
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I have been searching for 2 hours on how to add the RJ45 connector to my ip cameras. Finally found you. I just can't believe that this info is so guarded, at least it seems that way. Thank you
Global vision is always there to the rescue, its dedication to the industry and helping out fellow technicians especially when trouble may arise is unmatched, looking forward to ideas and solutions!
Your video helped me solve a problem I could not find a solution to. Thank you for making this video and keep up the good work!
Thank you for the kind words
This video was very helpful. It helped me for 2 different jobs since I've watched it. Thanks Global Vision
Great, nice and straight forward presentation - thank you
I love you lecture sir u teach me more about configuration of nano, edge and unifi configuration
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Awesome video! All your content has been gold. Thanks for doing all this.
What do you think of using the hikvision or some other quality branded two wire POE converter together with the injector? Doorbird devices here that I'm dealing with and their converter comes in such a steep cost. Maybe it's worth it, would love your two cents
Thank you so much
Thanks! You saved the day as always!!
Thank you for the kind words
Great!!! Works great. You saved me
thanks for thr video
ive got a swann ip camera which is able to powered by poe
it support 802.3af standard, so is it possiable to use 12v to power on the camera
any disadvantage?
My 3rd pair ( white/green ) is damaged in my Cat 6 data drop feeding LTS 4MP Turret Camera. If I re-wire both ends , using your video as my guide, do I still need the 802 injector, or can I simply plug back into NVR as it is POE powered already ??
Best way to check is to take the camera straight to the nvr and connect it with a small patch cord the same way with the 4 wires and test both ways. With extended distance on or off. It may be extended distance just changes the mode which happens to change that setting. But test it comfortably by the nvr.
thanks
I’m working a property that has their wireless access points running off of two pairs. Having a hell of a time figuring out why I can get power but no data to the AP
If it's not twisted pair it will not send data. The twists are part of the technology that allows the communication to follow. If it is twisted pair then perhaps the run is too long.
but how can we still get gigabit can we cut 2 wires only? I only need 2 wires for powering up devices that I'll attach to balun with positive and negative polarity so if there's chance to still achieve gigabit connection I'm on the look and don't know what wire numbers like 45 78 should I cut
hello. which pair caries 9 - 12v that can power the router in CAT 6 cable?
If I have good quality modem cable (F/FTP, 24 AWG, 6P4C, RJ11) or 2 pair External Telephone Cable, would I be able to use either of these for a POE IP camera setup if I was to I re-terminate with RJ45 connectors?
The cable needs to be twisted pair to send and receive data. The power will usually work. Cat3 24 guage usually will work but you might only get 10mbps. That's usually enough for most Ip cameras.
I would reccomend you test it for a few days and see if it works, before you rely on it. There are also many converters on 2 wires (1 pair) that will give you poe as well, that will work with most cable.
Hi good day, do you have a link where to buy the power injector . Thank you.
This video saved my cheese! Thank You!
My pleasure!
Which of the 2 pairs provide the power?
My 3rd pair shows open. Can I re-wire both ends the way you show and simply plug back into my 8 port LTS NVR ( as it is POE powered ), or do I need this 802 injector ?
It really depends on the model of nvr if it supports it. I have seen some of the hik style nvrs have an extended distance option, once enable it worked on this node. However , I can not guarantee it .
@@zoeyjune396 Thanks for the quick reply. Looks like this Nvr has extended distance option. Should I turn this on even though my distance is only 90 feet.?
Nice, so that mean I can use one cable for connecting 2 IP camera to NVR?
Did you use Hikvision NVR + IP camera in show? thanks
You can connect two cameras ,but not directly in the back of the nvr. The Hik nvr does not support the 802.3af mode a standard. So you need to use a switch that does
@@cctvny You've just mentioned something that has driven me crazy, I have HIKVISION EXIR TURRENT Network Camera DS-2CD2385G1-I 4K 8MP IP POE Network camera and a HIKVISION NVR DS-7600 Series Model DS-7616NI-K2/16P how do I get to use 2 cameras on one Ethernet cable? I've seen many people wanting to know this.
Can I use normal WiFi router for this kind of broadband connection?
It is only relevant to this video if your broadband router gets power via poe.
Your question however does not involve power, and regardless will work with a 10/100 speed
@@cctvny I got a ethernet cable with 4 wires inside it
For which my broadband connection speed is limited to 100 Mbps
My question is
Can I use a normal WiFi router that supports 8 wire ethernet cables ?
Is it correct you would just have 10/100 speed with this?
Planning to use my previous ADT motion sensors (connected to 4 wires) not sure if it's twisted pair but I do know that it's 4 wire cable. Most of the IP cameras I own support 10/100base t half duplex. I hope this works!!
Hi @jcmarcell unfortunately it most probably will not work if it is not twisted pair. You will get power but data will not work. Your choices are to use an analog HD camera(tvi/cvi/ahd they now go up to 12mp) or to use a two wire to poe converter. If you did go the analog HD route you can get a simple four channel and use it as encoder if you have a larger ip system
@@cctvny I get you, you say it won't work, but in real world scenario are we talking that it won't work over so many feet? I think the longest run is about 70ft and the shortest being around 30ft. I understand the interference when it comes to something not being twisted pair but you don't think 30 ft can deliver 2 megabits with interference?
I will be happy if it works for you. I went down to help an installer with an install and the run he had was less than 20 feet and it did not work. But its in your house so it will be easy for you to test. Let me know the results
@@cctvny damn not even 20ft...........Honestly I'm gonna be that guy and give it a try. I'll let you know! Thanks for the video and responses.
@@cctvny hey so you were right, it did not work because it is not twisted pair. It does however transmit power (I guess we know that since the motions were active) and also worked with my ethernet cable tester. But from core switch to aggregation switch didn't do shit lol. It must be way too much data loss at 70ft(which is my rough estimate)
Also if I'm understanding correctly, utilizing an analog system would be the copper coaxial cable? I was specifically interested in removing the useless motion sensors and utilizing the cable in the walls for Poe and data.
Do you think I could use these for anything else?
Edit: what is an encoder? Would I be able to utilize something that can convert the data to usable transmission, and then convert the data back on the other side? I've seen systems that can convert USB data over long Ethernet runs and then convert it back to USB data on the other side. I've also seen ethernet data converted over coaxial and then back to ethernet data.
Sorry. If 1&2 are + , 3 &6 are -, then which line for data ? Please. Please
Thats the beauty it uses the same cable for power and data, different types of signals. Data signals cannot interfere with the power signals since both of the signals are at the opposite ends of the electromagnetic spectrum.
@@cctvny really informative
1236 poe is mode a - mode b is 4578, how do i do that? hikvision pro ipcs run on mode b...
So if data only needs 2 wires & power only need 2 more wires whats the purpose of pulling an 8
wire cable? If the world only used a 4 wire cable think of the $$ that would be saved. & resources.
!
So this method would really not be good as a main source for data. I had this pinout going from a switch to a router and it just didn't work. Assuming a full 4 pair is required if you're going to use it for networking and not poe/5MBps
what are the disadvantages using POE? Please mention.
Limit speed to 100mbps
Nice
Nice, Is it applicable in non poe ?
Cat6 wire have been green pair is not work if you have any solution
Hey, I am using a fiber net router in of the rooms and there is a 2 Pair (4 wires) connection to another room inside the wall. I have RJ11 sockets in both the rooms. Can I convert them to RJ45 sockets and transfer internet via your method and get not more than 100Mbps speed to another router?
Hi Kevin
I think your autocorrect might have changed some of your wording on your first sentence.
If you can clarify what cable it is ,cat 5,6 and if your not sure,can you tell me if they are twisted pair at least.
If I did understand it you have a 2 pair cable (needs to be twisted) between 2 rooms going to rj11 phone Jack's. If it is cat5 or cat 6 yes you can convert and put rj45 Jack's. If its cat 3 and the distance is not long it can work as well, but I can not guarantee any speeds until you test it. If it is cat3 or even a not twisted cable they make converters that will give you the speeds you need. Also why would you connect 2 routers? Do you mean a switch or a wifi access point in the second room?
@@cctvny firstly thanks a lot for your reply.
I was planning to connect 2 routers on two different floors but due to the primitive wiring I was not sure if I would be able to connect them.
I am not aware if my wire is Cat5 or Cat3 and it has 'Blue white orange white pairs.
I don't know if this helps I am really poor with terminology I am a med student😅
Thanks
Can I use 4 wires from an 22/4 data wire which is not twisted like cat5e wires? Thanks
Jason you can not. You may get power but not data. It needs to be twisted for data. I have been to a site that tried this even on a 12 foot run and it did not work. There are converters by companies like altronix and vigitron thet let you use a pair of non twisted cables for poe. If you need this for a cctv solution you can use a tvi/ahd/cvi camera for a 100 foot run of quad and then you can have an encoder or dvr and then import it into a regular nvr as an rtsp stream
did as you said 4 wires the wires you said still no internet upstairs?
Is it twisted pair cable? And are you using poe at all? And if you are using poe are you using a poe switch or injector that supports 802.3 af mode a?
If you use 1,2,3,6 for the ip camera, which two cable supply "+" and "-" power to the ip camera?
1&2 are + , 3 &6 are - you can see in the video on the injector being used
@@cctvny So 1, 2 are Tx+, Rx+ and 3,6 are Tx-, Rx-. Is it correct?
Would a 2 pair cat3 cable work to run an ip camera with a portable injector using this method? I ask because I have that pre ran and don't want to rip it out to replace with cat5/6
It really depends if the camera supports the 802.3af Mode A to begin with.
Cat3 can usually do up to 10mbps of data. Just verify its actually cat3 and its twisted. Otherwise you will get power and no data. I have seen it done many times for under 100 foot runs
Thanks so much for the fast reply! The cam is a Dahua IPC-HDW5831R-ZE and the spec sheet lists power supply as DC12V, PoE(802.3af)(Class 0). But I can't find anything about the mode. Any thoughts? Thanks again!
And the cat3 is twisted.
@@bradpalmquist4163 sorry for the late reply.
From speaking to my friends at dahua they said that the 802.3af standard includes both. So if you have the camera already you can bench test it to see if it officially supports it. Doing that won't hurt the camera if it does not
I thought that poe comes from the brown pair?
It does on most switches , but here I'm demonstrating 802.3af mode a capable devices, switches and injectors.
So to recap the camera or device must support the standard as well as the switch. If you are using an nvr and for some reason one of your camera pairs got cut or damaged durring construction. You can use a poe injector that supports 802.3af mode a and plug the camera into the poe out and plug the data Into one of the camera ports of the nvr. You may have to manually set its ip adress in the nvr and the camera if it no longer finds it automatically. But it saves you from running a new line
So if my cameras power comes from brown pair - which other pins are also active?
@@leem6011 green and orange, blue pair is used for 1gb connections if the camera requires it
@@leem6011 blue
@@leem6011 if there is voltage on the brown pair then there will be voltage on the blue pair as well and data will have no voltage on orange and green pairs, which is not 802.3af mode A
Hi good morning, let me asking you something, i got a security camera wit 3 pairs cable, orangewhite, orange, greenwhite, green, redwhite, blackwhite. i need to build a coupler for a regular cable cat5 B, what will be the cross in order to get the camera workin whit power, audio, video? Thanks
If you could tell me if it's a Hikvision camera then I could get you there color code. Otherwise I cannot guarantee every manufacturers equivalent
@@cctvny , Is a Swann Camera, i was replacement (couple minutes ago) redwhite for brownwhite and blackwhite for brown. i left bluewhite and blue EMPTY... and i start getting video and audio, BUT i'm not sure it's that right?? thanks for your FAST answer Bro
@@cctvny , Now I try connecting blackwhite for BLUE, and redwhite for BLUEWHITE, the video quality work better. and the camera feel not too hot
Hi Carlos,
From what you are describing to me is the camera you have is an analog technology. It does not communicate digitally the same way Ip cameras communicate. In those cameras usually a pair is for video and a pair for power. Many times in the camera cable itself there are only 3 wires since they share the negative of the camera. From what it sounds like on your camera ,is that it has hd on a pair and a separate analog video as well that when tvi first came out was for spot monitors options to work as well. As for audio I only have seen the analog cameras that are motion sensors or covert that have it built in and that also is a pair of wires, which most times at the root shared a ground as well with the camera and the power.
Hope all is working out for you
hey, i will be doing this in 2 days since 1 out of 8 wires is broken with ma 6mp 100mb camera and see if it saves me some big trouble. I saw some more expensive camera on specification saying it support both 100/1000mb . On such camera can this still work with 4 wires ? thanks
You can not get 1000mb which is gigabit speed over 4 wires. And not all cameras support this , and the switch or poe Extender must support this as well.
I have seen tvt nvrs built in switches support this protocol but not dahua or Hik.
@@cctvny i dont want to have gibabit speeds, in the dahua camera specs it says 100/1000 so to me it means that it support both. I just tested a 10/100 camera and it works on 4 wires. If the spec of the camere says 100/1000 and not just 1000, shouldnt be compatible with 4 wires too? Can you maybe test such camera and see what happens?
do you have any information on colour coding for gigabit data plus poe. how to diy poe and get gigabit speeds?
Hi Willie , I apologize for the late reply.
For gigabit poe all cables are getting power and transporting data
But just got a forum ..they says
type B cable don't have poe for cat 6 and type A have poe thats you said ......then buying a cat 6 type B then worth it over cat 5e ... please reply
I am not sure i understand you.
But if the question is if you have a non gigabit speed network, can you use cat 5 instead of cat6 for poe 802.3af mode A.
But for data mode b still works with 4 wires but you do not need cat6 since you are not going to have gigabit speeds anyway. I hope this helps. If you reply please make sure you have it explained better and that the question spies to an application that requires power on the cable
@@cctvny ok my last question ...all though I don't have a gigabit connection speed but my modem and computer have 8 pin port so in that case will I get advantage over packet loss with cat 6 cable
@@random2059 ,in this instance cat6 only benefit is if it is alot of work to run the cable and you wanted to have something for the future.
For your current application if I understood everything correctly, then it would have no benefit over cat5e
I have lost pair of orange what can i do?
Use brown instead of orange. But make sure you do the same thing on both sides. And that you have devices that both support 1236 wiring scheme for 892.3 after modea
@@abrahamlieberman4190 thanka worked great
What distance can you run this without voltage drop
Hi Jared the limitations are the same as traditional cat5 or cat 6 network poe distances so anywhere fro 250-325 feet depending on the cable
@@cctvny so I split my cat6 cable to run 2 CCTV cameras at 200 feet. But the video quality isn't very good. I used passive baluns. Each balun using 2 pairs
Jared you are confusing analog, this is for IP based systems
@@cctvny yes I understand but i wanted to know if I can do the same for analog cameras without a problem
@@jaredhussain9565 I can not give you a definite answer since this a completely different technology. I would think if it is an analog HD technology ,like tvi,cvi,ahd that having 2 modulated cameras on the same cable sleeve for distances would be more of an issue. Also if it is Analog HD they have different passive balls to support the resolutions. In addition regarding power are you measuring what you are receiving? Since the camera is 12 volts dc and pulls around 1 amp probably at night , 1 pair of cat cable is not rated to hold that voltage regardless. I would see if you can power it remotely and if your quality improves. As for ip cameras using the 802.3 af mode a 2 pairs are still being used for power at the end of the day, just data is riding over the same cables at the same time.
If you see the analog cameras are giving you issues just use ip cameras instead using this technology. Or perhaps if you see more cameras may be needed running the cat5 to a poe powered switch where you can support several more cameras even
But cat 6 have 8 pin ....cheap router have 4 pin only
That is only for data and not regarding poe, which also provides power for devices like up cameras or ip phones.
The cheap router only has 4 wires since it is not gigabit and data only and work on older standard for the data
If use only 4 wirde why get 8 wird ?
L.c , the 4 wires work for a limited amount of devices. Also using the 4 wires is not something that you do not do to begin with. It is usually to correct a situation after the fact or to add another camera without rewiring.
@@cctvny i use brodband ......
I conocted only 4 wird after watching your video
4 wire or 8 wire any difference for brodband ?
I mean downlod and uplod speed
@@l.c.ahir. for broadband if you use 4 wire your are limited to 100 mbps, if your speeds are higher you won't get it. The video i showed was for powering and data for mainly camera applications
@@cctvny tq my plan 50mbps😁😁
I've wires cable how to do that? Please help
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