The Future Of Bee Hive Feeders? New Ceracell Top Feeder For Langstroth Hive
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I really think you're going to like these new hive top feeders. These may truly be the future of bee feeders for the hobbyist beekeeper. I received two of Ceracell's newly redesigned top feeders to test out on my ten frame Langstroth hives and I'm very impressed. I've had them for several weeks now and they have performed flawlessly. If you are familiar with my channel you probably know I use or have used every style feeder under the sun so I have plenty to compare to. This has to be the cleanest and least troublesome feeder I've come across yet and the bees really take to it. Unlike the other internal feeders I use I haven't lost one bee to drowning in these feeders or gotten brood combs saturated due to feeder leaking.
I'm very excited that Ceracell Beekeeping Supply presented me with the opportunity to help them introduce their top feeder to the US market and to some degree the world. I will put out a followup video as an announcement once they have made it to the US market.
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The following is Ceracell's write up from their web site:
We listened to you the beekeepers. Our yellow top feeder was great, but as we all know a beehive is mounted sloping slightly down towards the front, and when feeding sugar syrup in a top feeder with a chimney cap there is always half a litre that the bees can't get to. Our new improved Blue top feeder has all the benefits of the old yellow one, but now with a patented protected corner access system. This will be the industry standard!
Extra Heavy Duty with underside ribs for strength. Made from 100% virgin food grade plastic. This comes in the most popular medium size holding 9.5 litres. "Why blue?" you may ask. Because this is special! It is a product that stands out from everything else on the market, hence the special corner access system is patented, and we want it to stand out visually as well.
You can use it just with the corners open, with or without corner caps, or you can also add central access. If you want the bees to also have access through the central chimney you will need to drill the size of holes you prefer. Some beekeepers like large holes, some smaller. The choice is yours. Again, you can choose whether or not to use a chimney cap to protect the bees from drowning in the syrup.
You will need a wooden rim to support the feeder. We supply these too. And if you need sugar, well of course you can get that from Ceracell.
Top feeders are great for feeding raw or dry white sugar in the early and mid-winter. Feeding in this way, don't use a "chimney cap" and let the bees range across the feeder. Raw sugar is considered better, as it has a bit of moisture in it already and the bees can work it and take it up. If using dry white sugar you may want to add a small damp sponge to the top feeder to give the bees some moisture to work the sugar.
In the late winter/early spring you may want to feed a heavy syrup (2 kilos of white sugar to 1 litre of water, heated to fully dissolve). This shouldn't stimulate the queen to lay and with it being in a top feeder she shouldn't sense too much the sugar coming in. When feeding in this way, use a chimney cap to restrict the bees and prevent them from getting out in the bulk of the liquid. This will minimise drowning. If you don't have a chimney cap, you can fill the feeder with pebbles, or twigs, or some people use lots of polystyrene which will float and give the bees a place to sit above the syrup.
Many thanks to Ceracell for sponsoring this video. Bees For Life!
I know TH-cam isn't a functional business model recently but I really appreciate your videos and highly enjoy your content. Keep up the good work!
I enjoy doing these. Wish I had more time for it.
I second that. I look forward to your videos more than my favorite tv shows.
Lord Temujin it definitely is a functional business model.. the billions of profit TH-cam is pulling and the huge revolution in information exchange proves that they are certainly a functional business
Glad to see hes doing much better
I see your dad up and going again if this is new footage. Glad he is doing better. I am not a bee keeper but really enjoy watching your videos.
Yep, he's out doing a hive removal with his helper this morning.
I just released a video on this feeder today and a few people told me about your video. You did a good job explaining it!
Thanks bro.
Just found your channel, completely randomly. Figured I should post a comment on a recent upload, and not something from months ago. Your videos are very interesting, and I just wanted to take a minute to say thanks for sharing your passion with the world. Very cool stuff, keep up the great work!
Thanks so much for checking us out Neuk.
Idk how I found myself watching bee videos, but in the past few days its been the only thing I can watch, and your channel has been a very fun channel to watch, even wants me to start getting a hive on my farm. Love your stuff!
Thanks for tuning in Emeraldfinch
I really enjoy your videos. Wish i could start a beekeeping hobby. 2 reason why i cant. One) i live in the city so cant have hives around here, especially since i live right across from a school. Two) My mom and my sister are allergic to bees, Sister is highly allergic. Saddest part of all is, both me and my mom loves honey and since we live in south africa, its highly expensive. 500ml or 16oz cost us around, 75-130 Rand. which is around $5.83 - $10.10. Doesnt seem much to people in the US or Europe.
And seeing the amount of honey you can make from a few hives which i saw in your 1 video that you were draining for your personal stash, i become interested in beekeeping, already have a meal worm farm which i use to give to my hedgehog.
I just want to say thank you. I'm allergic to bees, but your videos have been so filled with information about them, their habits ECT. I've actually been deep thinking about joining a bee club. My kids and I have been binge watching your videos and now they want a hive. Keep up the good work!
Oh you'll live it and the kids will too.
Very cool feeder. I've never used top feeders, but I would certainly give them a shot. Thanks for sharing.
I'll be glad when they get them over here. I want more.
that bee yard is looking mighty full. thx for the share Randy, love your work as always
Got plenty O bees down here. If you're ever in the area stop by for some. :)
I have the other brand top feeder like this, exactly the same without the corner access. Can confirm both brands are great, zero drownings. Only down side is with so much surface area of open liquid, water evaporates reasonably quickly and the inner cover condense's water and will grow a little mold in mild climates like ours. Not a big deal as it wont drip on the bees. I had ants find the feeder fairly quick but cinnamon works really well at deterring them. Don't use cinnamon in rural areas, apparently it will attract the possums. My 2 (new) backyard hives took in over 60kgs of sugar in autumn and have plenty of stores going into winter, they wont need feeding again till spring so I've removed the feeders until then.
Great tip on the cinnamon. I've heard it work on ants but never heard the down side that it attract possums.
Looks like a great feeder for fall/winter, thanks!
Definitely. I'm getting more of them.
Good looking feeders! You have forever more got something going on down there.
Got to stay busy.
Can't wait to see how they work. I have something similar, but I have a huge drowning issue with it and have had to remove them after cleaning out a bunch of drowned bees every time. I hope this one is better!
Never had any drowning issues with these. I’ve got two of them I’ve been using for two years.
@@628DirtRooster THen I'm certainly going to have to see if I can get my hands on some.
I bought 2 early this year for my 8 frame hive and had some drowning, minor but still had drowning they are definitely NOT drowning proof. Other than a small amount of bee's drowning I like the feeders anxious to see how it'll work out feeding dry sugar this winter. Will the bees break cluster in cold winter months in Virginia? We're fixing to find out.
Kiwi made - love it!! Thanks Randy - Keep us updated on how it's working for you all.
I knew you'd like it. lol
Those feeders look pretty cool. But I gotta say you need to make some more videos. I've had to resort to watching all Jeff's videos to get my bee fix..
LOL Jeff is going to be glad to hear that.
Yaaaay!!! Thank you for the video Randy. Much appreciated.
Thanks so much Tim.
I'm looking forward to them being available on amazon. I just started shadowing a local beek and this would make a nice gift for him and his bees
That is neat! I love your videos. New stuff is fun.
New toys! Like Christmas
Great looking feeders.
I think so too.
Mr. Ed is racking up those Queen catches, you need to show him who's boss!
He's done blown so far past me he taunting me on my voice mail. LOL
Hope it is okay to say I ordered the 8-frame size from Blythwood this week. Feeder was on my 2020 wish list.
Those top feeders look really nice
I'm really liking them so far.
Please keep us informed of the performance of these new feeders.
They look very promising.
That is great. It is always nice to see improvements in bee keeping. Sadly the USA is behind on a great many things these days.
Looking good.
Thanks D.
smart system so much nicer than the homemade leaky ones I have!
I already want more of them. I'll be ordering as soon as they hit the market.
Amazing feeder love it
Nice feeders! VERY nice bees don't drown!
Best ones I've come across so far.
628DirtRooster Hopefully they can get all the logistics worked out quickly so they can be purchased here soon
I kept waiting for you to say " But wait that's not all!"
Ha! I though about that and then forgot it when I started recording.
all my hive are level cause of the oil traps, i love any thing that new in 21st Century BK ! VERY COOL! looks excellent to me. time for changes! cheers buddy thx for sharing!
Yeah man! I like new stuff too.
did it come with the wood frame or just a plastic insert and how much? he heee we got to test this stuff cause plastic sweat like foil
They sent these with the frames but you can order them either way. If you had some old throw away boxes you wanted to cut down it would fit in those too.
ok I gotta get some. I want mine signed by the big rooster himself
You got it!
yayyyy glad to see a video from you
Thanks Bee Bop
the quality of your videos is improving so fast! love your channel. I've been binge watching recently :)
Working hard on them. Thanks for noticing.
these look pretty efficient- hope you do a follow up showing the bees feeding on the sugar water- much love ....Glo
I likely will when they let me know they are available in the US. The bees seem to be loving them.
That's a really cool invention you got there....
How have you been my friend?
628DirtRooster good... Been moving / got a new job....
I just ordered a few straight Ceracel, should be interesting to see how long they take to get here. Way more cost effective than Amazon by the way. Thanks for the tip.
I've got to get some more of these.
Looks like a neat well made product, let us know how they end up working for you.
Sure will. I hope they get their shipment over soon.
Hand full shot
Been waiting all week for a new video. I think I have watched about every bee video. Not in a 2 piece bikini either!
LOL I don't even want to know what you were wearing.
Looks real cool. You should be able to use dry sugar or fondant in it as well!
Absolutely. :)
The fondant used on cakes?
I love your videos and your passion for one of the best creatures in the world . thanks for sharing
Thanks so much Ruth.
You have a nice wife, painting the the boxes for you. You best be taking her out for a nice meal!!!! lol
Oh you know it.
well I found where the swarm nested! they built their colony in the ground next to the house. I got a couple of bee boxes coming. should I buy a queen bee to attract them to the boxes or just use the lemon grass oil like in your trap out videos?
Those look so goood! 2 gal + of feed and the ability to dry feed in the winter too.
How much are the liners running $$$$? and their frame?
If they need another beekeeper to test these out..... you know what I mean? LOL
Take care and thnk you for the vid
I'm not sure what the price will be when they get stateside but they are very affordable on their web site. We might need a second tester. ;)
Very cool!
Thanks Rob :)
How does the fit look on the underside? Meaning does it fill the boxes well or leave space for creepy crawlies to next that the bees can't get too. I ordered mine from blythewood bee supply. Was going to make a vacuum table and make something similar with hot plexiglass or similar material. Thanks for the product introduction.
Great review - thanks!
Thanks for watching.
so interesting
Thanks for watching
cool to see new zealand made products i live in new zealand you should try manuka honey one day
I hear it's good.
How are you liking the new feeders? Did the bees like it this summer? Hopefully you do a winter update on how you like them. I might get a pair of them for next spring
I do like them. I only have two so I use them on my most valuable hives.
Great video, we are currently working on a new design that allows ants to have access to all the varoa mites and other parasites but not actually get into the Supas. Its not as easy as it sounds. I purposfully put Meadow Ant Nests near every Bumble Bee Nester and virtually parasite free. We noticed some years back that the Ants where eating Varoa mites that had fallen from the Honey Bee Hives. If you watch Ants on the floor and you have mites then you will see them carrying the mites away. I have a video called Why Bumble Bees Need Ants if any one wants to see. You can see all my Bumble Bees are healthy and Ants on the houses :)
bees are awesome
That's a fact!
Exciting!
Very. Thanks Shlisa
very cool
Nice video. better camera? I live in nz and are only 1/2 hour from ceracell. I may have to go and get me a couple.
Yep, Shot a lot of this one on my Nikon.
did she actually do that without getting her hands dirty?????
She's an artist. Plus I taught her everything I know. ;)
She is good!
good music
Almost forgot to mention, I did the same thing with what looks like punch out holes. lol
Awesome man. I want some more of them. Can't wait until they get them available over here.
Same here. I think they need to hurry now that these videos are out. They never told me they were going to be on Amazon, that great.
This is the cost of 1 feeder from NZ.
Cost for 1 x set is $13.00 and freight is $ 54.08
Yeah the shipping they paid on the two that came to me was $128 and change.
I hope someone in the US starts making them. The shipping must be expensive
That is in the works
I wonder how long these will hold up for. They look pretty darn sturdy.
I'll have to do a update video every ten years. ;)
Fair assessment though, I'd worry about the clear plastic parts that clip into the corners and the middle. Either they'll get lost, stepped on, or the tabs that hold it in place will break and it won't fit down properly. That would be my best guess at what fails first.
comfy video
I got it,they held 16lbs could go a tad more but 16lbs works out...
Good deal
How much are they? They look really nice. Great video as always.
Check out their site. Pretty dang affordable.
The Kiwis did good.
Indeed!
Where is Jeff? Jeff go rescue the old man!
Please tell me about what you painted it with. Thanks
keep up the bee vids bro
Working on another one now.
Wish I could find out how much dry sugar it will hold,I got 20 of these and about to change over to dry,my old homemade dry feeders would hold 16lbs but I also mix in water and vinegar to keep from molding,I just need to see how to adjust my ratio,mine are still setting on all the hives so I’m not gonna take them just gonna mix up put it right in.
If I can remember I'll figure it out for you.
These feeders are sooo expensive, the shipping is as much as the feeder.
Last time I checked.
I'll stick with the gravity system for know.
They are available stateside through Blythewood now blythewoodbeecompany.com/ref/8/
Could this feeder mess with the air flow in a langstroth type hive?
just really curious, but how did you come up with the name 628DirtRooster? Does it mean anything?:))
thanks for the vid on the feeder, looking forward to trying it out, had bear visit up here 2 weeks ago, knock over the hive etc, looking to put up electric fence, ever had an issue with bears down your way, any suggestions ? thanks
No bears down here thankfully. My brother had one get his chickens a few years back but didn't bother his bees. He's a little way north of me though.
This a nice top feeder... I haven't gotten any yet, but I may go for this. Amazon you say...
How many swarms are you up to? Jeff keeps putting up lots of swarm trash talk...
I'm at a dozen and I think Jeff is around 25. I'll never catch him this year.
628DirtRooster I'm just glad I caught 1!
You've caught more than 7.5 billion other people. :)
628DirtRooster awesome! :-) They don't know what they are missing...
So I've watched who knows how many vids of yours by now, and I keep wondering... With all those different hives with different queens in proximity to each other... Don't they attack other hives, or just mind their own if they're not being bothered? I'm real curious about that. :)
Sometimes opening hives at the wrong time a robbing situation can be caused but typically they don't bother each other.
Blythewood seems to be selling these in the US and seems to have an affiliate program. You wanna throw up a link and get some commission?
Blythewood does not have an affiliate program. They do sell these feeders though.
i tried one....really like it..... I need about 20 blue feeders for Nucs. Any idea where I can order the ones for nucs??--thanks
I want more too.
Ok Randy. Where do the inner covers go? On top of the feeder or below?
What's an inner cover? lol I probably would just eliminate the inner cover while these are on.
Speaking of bee feeding... why is it so uncommon to see planted flowers around bee keeping?
It's usually just a grass field ( i know grass contains pollen ) but it's rare to see some flowers or such planted near by.
Got a question, what actually happens to the brood if you extract honey of a frame with brood in it? Is it just lost then?
Yes usually. The eggs and larvae can get dislodged and not survive.
Do you have to paint the frame for the feeder?
so i am new to these bee videos but id like no know after removing the comb from a bee hive frame how do you replace it?
I am still try to see how bees feed. Can you make video? I am still puzzle.
13:02 of this video th-cam.com/video/Qnd1HalzWyw/w-d-xo.html
very cool. have you tried beemax? I like the corner access
Haven't tried them. I'm not sure the polystyrene hives would survive the abuse of moving hives around as much as I do.
628DirtRooster yeah I hear ya. They Are pretty tough though. no bee drowning for me with them also. I'd paint them also for the southern sun. I'll try these out when available.
I'd paint them too but I wonder if they'd get damaged when you pulled them apart like how wooden boxes stick after being painted.
I wouldn't paint the tops or bottoms just where the sun hits em. Even in Alaska with very little UV they were starting to yellow. Gotta paint mine lol.
Hey DirtRooster, Love the video's thanks. It's been a year, any chance we could get that follow up on the Ceracell? Respect your opinion, would love to hear more thoughts on it. Do you use them still? Have you or would you buy more? Are they worth the price?
I only have two but I love them and do still use them. Not sure I'll buy more because of how many I would need.
Sup
Shame on you locking up the old man in a bee concentration camp
He's running wild.
lol been feeling the same way these days
I have been buying stuff of them for 15 years and didn't know they had these, how did you know about them.
They contacted me when they came out with them.
How many did they give you:)
Hey there, i figure this might be a strange question, but would you ever sell any of your dead bees/other hymenopterans from removals and just everyday beekeeping? I do taxidermy and jewelry and it can be hard to find them in stock on bug websites. If not that's alright I'll keep watching regardless, just figured i'd ask! Keep up the good work!
628rooster@gmail.com
I just got a new hive a few weeks ago and when should I stop feeding them??
That's a bigger question than you think. lol Depends on where you are, how you started, what your plans are..... To be on the safe side I'll say feed them until they have plenty of capped honey stored up and they are using two deeps for brood.
what size is the feeder or would it fit any 10-frame hive?
They have five and ten frame feeders.
Where bees going feed from? is it's from bottom of feeder?
They climb over the top edges to drink it.
cool.
How much is the buget four the bees in a year?
I don't really have a budget. Well I guess I do. It what ever is in my pocket when it's time for new supplies. :)
628DirtRooster Cool :)
DO you sell pure honey? I would love to buy some with a comb inside. If you do would you ship to Canada?
Not yet but soon.
cant wait, I have watched all your videos, I get hungry for honey everytime I watch, but if course the honey we have isnt real honey. I love real honey with pollen in it with a nice honey comb inside to eat. Let me know when you have honey for sale. I know the season is just beginning and cant wait to get a few jars of real honey.
Do you know where eye XD can get my hands one those?
They are trying to work a deal with Mann Lake but they aren't available in the US yet. Hit their web site and see what they'll charge to send you one if you have the disposable cash. I know it cost them $129 to mail the two I got.
I'm form nz
You should stop by their store.
I'm not sure I know how a bee feeder works. Does it drip into the hive?
dennys9506 No. the bees climb up through the holes and drink, then carry it back into the hive. That is why Randy mentioned the textured plastic. The texture allows them to climb and not end up in the "drink".
No, you don't want free dripping into a hive. In this case, the bees come up through the corners and then proceed down the translucent plastic, which has a rough texture so the bees have grip, to where the sugar water is. The sugar water gets into the feed areas, the corners, and center box, by openings at the very bottom of the corner pieces or slits (I think I saw) in the center box.
What they said. lol
628DirtRooster so, using my no clue about bee keeping language, the bees would come up into the blue part of the chimney and the plastic cover part thing keeps them from drowning?
You got it. :)
Daddy's kitty...
I need another one that'll work. This one just lays around and we are getting rats.
How much do they cost?
Check out the web site. You can buy the whole setup or just pieces depending on what you want to do with them.
I bet da wife said something about that old lid on top da hive lol