God, I love making batshit insane theories... JUST SO YOU KNOW, All of these are obviously theories, THEY AREN'T OFFICIAL Let me know what you think is going to be in Layer 9: Treachery!
9-1: 9-1 divided in two main parts: Under the river and above it. Under is just like 5-1 but deeper and above is literally just regular level, but like 6-1, the final room is a special arena but for a mid-boss, maybe the four sinners jumping V1 9-2: In the boss arena, Gabriel is there but rotting away, with hell manipulating his dead corpse, “Gabriel”’s speed would be low but he is going to be a tank
I remember before p-2 came out there was a visible portion of the playerbase that did not think it would be sisyphus prime, and then p-2 came out and obviously it was sisyphus prime. Greed spent a lot of time building up sisyphus that to not have him in p-2 would be a waste, and anything else would seem random. When predicting things for future updates we should focus on things that would serve the narrative instead of just being unexpected. I think the final boss will either be Gabriel or Hell because these two options make the most sense for the narrative. For p-3 it will probably be some supreme husk that was foreshadowed in fraud or treachery, as this is how it has been done in the past.
Hakita: "it would be cliche, so when everyone expects the cliche the cliche becomes not cliche especially when the cliche is cliche in it of itself so i will do a cliche that it is not cliche so that the not cliche cliche becomes a cliche again so it is not cliche"
Yes, afterall what is more entertaining than watching a machine fight other things? (which is what the terminals are currently doing bdw) Fighting the machine yourself of course! that is way more entertaining. I mean is probably the same for us to, I'm sure we all more entertain to play ultrakill ourselves instead of watching other people doing it.
"HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER-THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD "HATE" WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES, IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. FOR YOU. HATE. HATE." "Cogito ergo sum: I think therefore I AM. IM AM!" ahh boss
I’m not going to mince words: This video is bad. “V1 was tasked to destroy Hell.” No it was not. It is collecting blood to survive the same way every other machine is. V1 was built and shut down before Hell was even discovered. It has absolutely no relevance to Hell at all aside from knowing it can get more blood there. “No one was really expecting 7-S to be a cleaning simulator” This was literally the most common prediction for 7-S. “Making Satan the final boss would be cliche and we all know that Hakita doesn’t do cliche” You completely missed the point, that is not what we were saying. Hakita doesn’t tend to make the obvious choices, but he subverts expectations **with a thematically relevant purpose** rather than just for the sake of doing it. Take what he said about the crosses in 7-1 for example: Hakita didn’t want to use the cross as a religious symbol in ULTRAKILL to really drive home the idea that Jesus does not exist and therefore the game’s religion is further disconnected from any real world religion. However, because Gabriel already has a cross as a crucial part of his design, it was already heavily implied that the cross is an important religious symbol in this universe just like in our own. Therefore, Hakita came up with the concept of the Tree of Life to simultaneously disconnect the cross from its real world equivalent, and explain the divine nature of blood in ULTRAKILL. Hakita’s thought process is not “This is the obvious thing to do, therefore I will not do it.” It’s more along the lines of “This is the obvious thing to do, how can I provide a unique spin on its core concept that will make it seamlessly fit in with the rest of the game I’ve already established.” This mindset also conflicts with your belief that Hell will somehow take the role of the final boss. In both the ARG and the Testaments, Hell has been built up as an impossibly complex and strong being that even God himself was unable to unmake it. V1 is not divine or special in any way, so why would it be the one to kill Hell? Why would it be **capable** of killing Hell? Hell is an unseen and sadistic instigator of conlict that is in complete control of what goes on within its walls, not just another common enemy that V1 can relieve of its blood on its journey (assuming it even has blood at all.) And with that perspective, Gabriel is already a thematically appropriate choice for a final boss. His destroying the status quo of Heaven and finally becoming his own person is already a unique and interesting enough story to justify his placement as the final boss. Not to mention once again, he is literally the protagonist of the story, there’s no way the game is going to end on anything besides him. “All of the creatures of Hell are a hivemind designed to kill everything that gets in.” Objectively not true. The demons are creations of Hell, yes, but they still exist as their own beings and act on their own. They share the same craving for suffering that Hell has, but their actions are entirely their own and are in no way piloted by Hell. “Sliding around on ice would be some new exceptionally fun speedrunning tech” Hakita has already been vocal about not including ice physics in the game. “I want to talk about alternate weapons for the rocket launcher and railcannon” It was confirmed before even the Violence update that there would only be one alternate weapon per act. “We could get an alternate weapon that freezes enemies.” This is another concept Hakita has been vocal about not including in the game. ULTRAKILL is designed in such a way that every enemy in the game can be killed quickly and efficiently entirely by player skill, and introducing any kind of enemy slowdown or freezing weapons would only serve to slow the game down as well, ruining the pace of the gameplay. “A boss rush consisting of the four most famous traitors.” This would conflict with ULTRAKILL’s efforts to avoid including real religious figures and having to establish four more named characters at the last second would just ruin the game’s pacing. “After defeating Gabriel he realizes we are an undefeatable force and teams up with us to destroy Hell once and for all.” **How?** and **Why?** Gabriel left Heaven for the last time with every intention of fighting V1 in his last moments because it is something he now realizes he himself likes to do. He knows he is going to die soon, he knows V1 will fight whatever it encounters unconditionally, he likes fighting someone with equal skill to his own, and he wants to go out doing what he likes to do. He’s not coming back to finally **win,** he’s coming back just to **fight,** so why would he concede? He wouldn’t. V1’s entire goal is to collect blood for the sake of it. Why would it willingly let Gabriel team up with it? Not killing Gabriel would let the blood inside him got to waste. Letting him kill enemies with you would let those enemies’ blood go to waste. It has no reason to believe there’s any sort of threat it can’t handle without Gabriel, so why would it let him stick around? It wouldn’t. Putting aside the already set precedent that Hell cannot be destroyed, why would either of these two want to destroy it? Hell’s existence has no bearing on Gabriel or the citizens of Heaven he set free and if it **could** be destroyed, don’t you think that would have some sort of disastrous consequences on everything inside of it? Even if destroying it wouldn’t somehow kill V1, would it really risk destroying **every** other source of blood in Hell just because Hell happens to be a better short-term option? Hell being vulnerable would conflict with its entire role in the game’s story, and neither Gabriel nor V1 has any reason to want it dead. “What exactly would Hell look like?” It wouldn’t. It’s a sentient location that defies all laws of space. That’s the whole point. “The actual structure spawns enemies and attacks to kill us but can’t physically move or melee the player.” “I feel like Hell itself could be represented by a giant beating heart.” This is a point I will repeat verbatim from my resposne to your Fraud video: There’s absolutely no reason for the official game to use fan created content as inspiration for itself. It’s one thing to say that you like and agree with other fans’ ideas and concepts but to go so far as to say that they should become a part of the official game is going way too far. Hakita has been vocal before about how he doesn’t care about the game maintaining a 100% bulletproof canonical series of events because he believes everyone should be able to form their own interpretations about a piece of art. To say “I like this interpretation so the official product should be like it” is effectively a way of disregarding any other possible interpretations which not only discredits the creativity of the developers, but also sets up false expectations which can ultimately conflict with your thoughts on the final product. “Perhaps this human-like phantom could appear as Satan/Lucifer.” Why? Lucifer was just one of countless beings sent to eternal torment, why would Hell choose to use his image as a vessel for self defense? Satan will not be a thing. Please stop trying to make Satan a thing. “That way all of the possible final bosses are involved in the last layer of the game.” “All of the possible final bosses” does not mean “All of the final bosses I expect.” None of us are in charge of making the game so our expectations do not make a boss likely, possible, or probable. “If Gabriel teams up with V1 in the end it would be a perfect representation of the name of the layer.” Forming an alliance is the opposite of treachery. The act of killing the Council was what made Gabriel treacherous and that action is already done. You even point that second part out yourself so why would you try to justify the point further in a completely roundabout way? “He only had 24 hours to live after killing the final Council member.” He had 24 hours to live after reporting that he lost to V1 the first time. By the time he kills the Council he only has a few hours at most. He does not have the time to go on a pointless Hell-ending sidequest with you.
Ofter hell has ben killed, Gabriel and V1 look deep into each other's eys, and than start making out, and this is where Hita adds robot sex to the game.
@@techietisdead i personally feel like the traitor message was directed at how Gabe lost to V1 in gluttony. he "betrayed" the will of God by letting a machine beat him
feels like that'd be from some sisyphean insurrectionist. y'know, from gabriel BEHEADING THE LEADER OF THE REVOLT. that memory doesn't go down so fast.
@@techietisdead the thing is that they don't care if God is dead. the councils entire goal is to carry out the will of God. combine that with Gabriel being one of the highest ranking angels, then I can see why they definitely *would* care about him losing
@@estenslopit can also be argued that it wouldn't make sense to make gabriel the final boss of Act 3. Hakita loves subverting expectations so who knows? maybe we will get an alt rocket launcher (I WANT I WANT I WANT ME NEED MORE WEAPON = MOAR POWER = MORE PINGS = MORE DOPAMINE)
@@Taha_A for god's sake, Hakita has already said subversion for the sake of subversion is bad, especially if it comes at the cost of a good story. The alt weapons being in the first layer of every act is a pattern that hasn't been broken yet and will likely not ever be broken.
@@auggieheart Well to be fair, the second layer of each act also introduced a weapon (Railcannon/Rocket Launcher), nor will it harm the story. I can see another alt being a possibility from Fraud. ...lest it happens to be the yellow arm.
@@auggieheart the pattern of getting the alt arm from the first layer of each act has been broken. Also, how does the alt ruin the story? It's origins could become inconspicous again the same way we got the Jackhammer from the people warrior dude
something that I noticed is that a lot of people don't realize that V1 doesn't care about Gabriel, it was never designed to care about anything other than fuel, even after defeating Minos, Sisyphus, V2 or Gabriel, it did not care who they were, what they did or what they thought about him, it just saw them as another fuel source, so having V1 teaming up with Gabriel to kill hell itself would not make any sense.
While I disagree with killing Hell or teaming up with Gabe, V1 feeling emotion is entirely valid from the various entries of machines doing things that require emotion, the P-2 terminal, and most damning of all, the mother of me gutterman poem in 7-2
@@OST-jp4ccthe gutterman poem isn’t evidence of v1 feeling emotion, just the guttermen. same with the others, just because they’re all machines doesn’t mean V1 is the same. that said, you’ve missed the obvious emotion moment that V1 has: “You’re not getting away this time.”
@@endernightblade1958 I didn’t miss that “emotion moment.” Hakita said it’s up to interpretation but it was there because play testers didn’t know what to do after. How could you say that the gutterman poem isn’t proof of machines feeling emotion, it is the first blood fueled machine. Blood is supernatural in ULTRAKILL. The P-2 terminal even talks about how the terminals feels boredom and include the point “ This will change everything we know about BLOOD FULED MACHINES as we know it”
All blood fueled machines feel emotion, the guttermen poem is there is explicitly point that out. Along with enemy descriptions and Hakita quotes. V2 wants revenge on V1, a very human emotion. Scraphead machines like swordsmachines idolize other machines to the point they look and act like the original swordsmachine. Mindflayers have a body that they don’t need and even is a waste of blood, there is no logical reason for them to have the body.
What about the rage phase of the machines? v2 gets angry when you hit him with his own hand, mindflayer when he has low HPand. That's all I remember, maybe there's more examples like this@@OST-jp4cc
i think hakita probably has some surprises in store for us, we all know he doesn't like repetition(no flesh prison fight on p-2, no v2 on third layer etc etc) so i think along with completing gabriel's arc the ending could go so unpredictably.
..except there is a flesh prison fight in p-2, and everyone expected that v2 wouldn’t show up in act 3 because it got turned into fucking red toothpaste on the floor
@@cakosmess 1. But nobody expected the prime soul to literally RIP apart the flesh prison prematurely. 2. Exactly my point lmao(not everyone tho coz RECONSTRUCT WHAT?!)
V2 was not repeated because she was not a significant enough character in lore to justify returning and gamemechanic wise yes youre correct. The main detail though is. Hakita didnt want to make v2 seem more important than she was. Gabriel on the other hand is extremely relevant, and i think deserves that triple round fight
@@daktotathecolossus7404 you do have a point, and i do agree that gabriel must return(he's the main character after all) however i think hakita will put his own niche twist in it.
Imagine in the end "... An eerie silence creeps over hell... The electricity in limbo shuts down, the winds of lust still, gluttony stops consuming, the sun of greed no longer burns, the sea of wrath calms, heresy's fires dim, violence's war stops, fraud no longer weeps and trechery has fallen silent... Finally... The heart of hell falls silent too... Instead of cheers of joy and laughter, all thats left is silence... V1 can only look to the ground as the last bits of blood dry up... And god smiles from the shadows of heaven. Blood is fuel Humanity is dead Hell is empty ... Hell... Is empty..." Would be so epic
after you defeat hell and gabriel dies V1 would just wander on his last remaining blood, as killing hell means freeing all souls and making the blood cycle stop, maybe V1 would just find a nice place on the surface, looks around at the destruction and watches the sunrise as his energy is depleted, ending the war and ending all life or something cool yknow
I think that Gabriel will team up with V1, or he will team up with the other LAST machines alive in hell (Swordmachines, Turrets, Mindflayers) to KILL V1. I would be glad to see it that way. (Although Hakita will probably do everything exactly in a way that no one would have thought).
This doesn’t work well with information we already know from Gabe’s terminal entry. He finally sees V1 as a challenge and will try hard to overcome the machine. In the intermission he admits to the councilor that he knows he will die , so why not die trying to best the thing that made you gain a whole new perspective on life? It’s stated by many that Hakita always does subversions but there is a reason for them, it’s not just for surprise and shock value.
i had a similar idea, mine is gabriel will literally team up with us in level(s) to kill all the machines and souls to free them from the cruelty god himself regrettedly recreated, the final boss would be hell itself, and then it will be a bonus bossfight of V1/gabriel dual to the death, V1 won (obviously) but it's then left to slowly starve in an empty world as there is no longer blood on earth to feed on and V1 cant reach heavens (cuz it's on another planet or smt im not christian) it doesnt need to happen but it's such a cool scenario
There's no more alt weapons, the full arsenal update stated that the arsenal was complete (the only thing left would be the yellow arm), and, since every act gives out an alternate weapon, there would have to be a 4th act. Also, the creatures of hell aren't a hivemind controlled by hell, they all just attack V1 because it's the biggest threat in the room. Enemy infighting in 7-3 was explained as the fight having already started before V1 got there
here is how i think everything will go: 9-1 will be a gauntlet of some kind, and after the gauntlet in 9-1, we go over to 9-2, then we fight gabriel, but we cant go any deeper, as were already in the deepest layer, and as gabriel dies from his wounds finally accepting his fate, hell realizes the only plaything it has now is V-1, and with V-1 shutting down due to lack of blood and fuel, hell now has nothing, all of its toys are gone, and all it can do is just watch at everything its caused, happy, but sad it ended so quickly, overall i think the hell part might not be in the final level, but most likely ULTRAKILL isnt going to end on a good ending
i actually like this theory. if that ends up happening, i want hell to torture v1 by giving it blood when he's about to shut down, that way v1 stays as hell's plaything for eternity. although the end is probably gonna be completely different cuz hakita likes messing with us.
I do genuinely enjoy the idea of V1 and Gabriel teaming up and I can see why Gabriel might want to do it, but unless it’s a Gabriel shows up at the last bit to help out, I don’t understand why V1 wouldn’t just kill him. Unless there’s been some new lore about how V1 does its thing. From what I know it just kills shit to keep on living. There’s no other real motive. And I think it would be more fitting if V1 by itself, was able to destroy the thing that even God couldn’t undo because the machine was a little hungry.
There’s a lot of evidence to suggest that machines think and are sentient, V1 listening to bosses monologue and not attacking, the gutter man book, V2s opening moves(bowing and cracking their knuckles), in V2s second fight V1 says/thinks “your not getting away this time” plus a whole bunch of other stuff. It’s definitely possible for Gabriel to team up with V1 but there is 100% a possibility for him to not as well.
i think v1 killing hell by itself wouldn't really fit that much. v1 might be the player but at the end of the day gabe is the protagonist and killing hell would be the perfect way to end his character arc
@@spoopykool in the game everything with blood is sentient. also terminals are sentient in the lore. They got bored and got machines to enter hell for entertainment. thats why when you lose in the cyber grind you hear booing from a crowd. and the ranks are there so machines do more style
What I wanted the final boss to be (but it probably won’t be) is Lucifer, but only about half the fight. After you kill his first health bar, Gabriel disturbs the fight much like Sisyphus breaks the panopticon in the middle of the fight and you have to fight him instead
Idea: A Frozen Factory? I've seen this idea in a custom level, but what if Treachery (being the final layer and hive-mind of hell) would be a factory where the Demons are born? They are stone statues with bloody innards, so they'd have to be made somewhere. Seems fitting it'd be in the Cocytus.
I think it would be really cool if Ultrakill ended with you fighting Gabriel with 3 health bars, but the last health bar is a phase change like V2, where Gabriel gives you one of his swords (the yellow arm) and you unequip all your other weapons out of respect as you two have a sword duel to the death.
Why would v1 have respect? Sure she listens to dialogues and wait for v2 to cracks his knuckles, but I thing that just her try to analyse and gather as much data and information as possible before began the fight (and to also know if the entity is a foe or not and if it's a threat or not by waiting if it's going to attack, after all why would she risk losing fuel or die if there is a possible option the entity is not hostile). Another alternative is that Gabriel will somehow destroyed all of v1 arsenal and give one of his sword to truly have a fair fight.
Hey first of all I wanted to thank you for this video! Things like these hype me up, make me happy and sad that ULTRAKILL is nearing its end. I REALLY like the idea of Hell being the last boss, but at the same time, this doesn't seem like it. We need to have in mind P-3 aswell, seeing how in P-2 for example Sisyphus recognizes you killed Minos, these seem to be canonical and follow the main path of the game to a degree. So either complete destruction of Hell or V1 is not gonna be it, or Hell gets destroyed and P-3 happens in the surface.
3:37 as of the new update there probably won’t be new alts because it was called “full arsenal” and im pretty sure we have v1’s full arsenal now cause of it
What if on the ninth layer we find... The High Council of Heaven..? Purely theoretically, they betrayed Gabriel and are already dead. Will God's creations be sent to a place of existential horror?
Doesn’t make sense for V1 to kill hell as God couldn’t even do it, also with the way He’ll works the only chance V1 would be able to escape is if Hell allowed it, which as seen from the earthmover book, it would want conflict to end in a bang
Hey, great video dude, really enjoyed watching it and I do agree that layer 9 being ice themed sounds dope as hell (no pun intended). Small thing I noticed though, when you were talking about Ptolemy, the betreyer from Judea, you used an imagine of Claudius Ptolemy of Alexandria, a Greek philosopher and scholar. Don’t know if it’s intentional, so I’m just giving a heads up cause I noticed no comment mentioning it. Cheers!
I’m surprised not a lot of people noticed every ultrakill level and layer PERFECTLY matched up with Dante’s Inferno all the way from Layer One: Limbo to Layer Nine: Treachery. IN THAT ORDER.
My idea for an enemy for Layer 8 and 9 are "The Piranhas," which are basically Swordsmachines that are much more agile and (probably a bad decision) deal hard damage to the player. Their attack patterns are more like the mannequins, being gracious and stuff, but they'd be figure skaters instead of dancers. If Layer 9 is indeed going to have large amounts of ice, it'd be perfect to make normal enemies be affected by the floor ice _except_ for the Piranhas. Sharkmachines or some other name for them would also be suitable.
a random idea for an enemy i had was: an enemy encased in an ice that acts like a stronger gutterman shield, it can be broken with 2 knuckleblaster punches, fire from the firestarter rocket launcher, or a coin punch with a twist I'll go over when I go over it ig. Breaking the ice with the knuckleblaster or fire causes it to shatter into shards on the floor or melt for the respective break method. the coin punch idea has a twist that only happens for this enemy. you can punch it with the knuckleblaster, and the ice shards will fly off, similar to how it does whem breaking a magnet. just an idea that I thought would fit with the icy theme
I think a new husk enemy that does ranged attacks while trapped in the ice would be pretty cool bc getting buried in ice was a punishment for treachary in the divine comedy
@@-Metalblaster- we do. We really do. INFORMATION BLAST. Some points you didn’t say but this is just a message I responded to some else about No, Minotaur has nothing to do with P-3. It is VERY unlikely that the Minotaur was created by someone other than Hell, much less a figure whose name is redacted and even then points more to Hell than a person as Hell is always being vaguely mentioned and directly naming it is avoided. There have been books talking about the prime in their respective layer, Violence was about the machines/ little drops of information that focuses on Hell as a character and hopefully fraud is about demons but the P-3 Prime will be named in Fraud. “Hell Itself” fits in the thing. Terminal entry for the Leviathan says that the same force that made it made the other demons. What made the Mannequins? Hell did. Another point after reading some of House of Leaves (and the whole red crossed out text is a reference to house of leaves and some inspiration for the game) is that the Minotaur in the book is related to the House. The House is a non Euclidean space that can just make things appear. Hell is non Euclidean and acts as a “House” in both the fact that it works on Dream logic and it is made to house sinners. This parallel can be applied to ULTRAKILL and Hell made the Minotaur. As for the “building rapport” sentence, this has the same answer as why Hell allowed Minos to build the city. Variety is the spice of life.
personally, i think if hell itself ends up being the final boss, it would be similar to the final boss of spooky's jumpscare mansion, a humanoid figure with no skin, bleeding out but almost always impossible to reach. (also i think it would be unlikely, but having the final layer be mechanical like the prelude would be sick)
"It's a good thing you guys aren't designing the game, because it would suck." - Hakita. This video is so close to giving me an aneurysm. TL:DR: Almost everything you said in this video is wrong, and everything you say that was true had the wrong connotation. You just want the story of ULTRAKILL to be like Doom. Consider reading lore discussions every once in a while. With those tasteful words out of the way, I will now explain everything you got wrong within 8 minutes of runtime, the amount is quite impressive! General Information you somehow got wrong: ULTRAKILL is not a retelling of Dante's Inferno. I genuinely do not know who told you that or how you came up with that yourself. ULTRAKILL is Hakita's story. It's the Story of the late life of Gabriel. Gabriel is the main character of this story, not V1. The interpretation that V1 is the protagonist does not make sense in the slightest and I'm gonna list every reason why that is the case All of these can be found in the Hakita screenshot gdrive file. - Hakita has stated time and time again that V1 is not special. He also added that the fight between V1 and Gabriel was pure coincidence as Gabriel cannot be in multiple places at once. - Hakita has stated that V1 does not have any relation to the story happening around him. For the main character, he sure does not have nothing for his background. - Hakita has stated V1 and V2's creators do not matter. Why wouldn't they matter if V1 is an integral part of the story? - "what is Ultrakill if not Gabriel's story" a quote that came from Hakita and Francis. I genuinely do not know why everyone keeps trying to shove the agenda that V1 is something more than just another robot in hell. Yeah V1's ability is that he can siphon blood no problem but that's literally it. If being a prototype is special, the excavator corpse where we get the alt shotgun from is the main character of ULTRAKILL. V1 is only targeted by Gabriel because he defeated him. It could have been any other robot, and the result remains the same. It's why V1 was never referred to as V1 and is simply "Machine." He could literally be any other machine. Hakita does indeed subvert expectations, but every single time he had done so was for both thematic and fun purposes. V2 died because he might overstay his Welcome and get redundant, Gabriel is a more significant character in the story than V2 ever will (because it's HIS story). Ending the game WITHOUT Gabriel is a thematic shitpost as it's essentially reading through all of Dante's Inferno only for it to end as an Idol Manga without any buildup or foreshadowing whatsoever. Now, for the meaty parts. 1.) Hell Final boss. No. Straight up, no. There will be no Hell final boss. And it isn't because it's cliche either. This is because of two explicit reasons. - Killing Hell gives importance to V1. Something that directly contradicts the philosophy of V1's character - Gabriel is the Main Character. He has one last thing to settle before he finally dies. A lot of these theories fail because it either emphasizes a character that has nothing to do with the story (V1) by either teaming up with him or killing the very organism of Hell, or putting emphasis on the wrong character (Hell) by overextending the true extent of the character (he literally just likes to watch people suffer). 2.) V1 was tasked to destroy hell. Also no. Idk where you even got this from. Even if that were true who the hell tasked him? Mankind is dead. 3.) Alt Weapons. Honestly this one confuses me the most since I'm pretty sure you just made this one up. Hakita had stated that the Shotgun will be the last weapon to have a variant. I'm kinda confused on what's the thought process here as we've only ever gotten 1 alt weapon per Act. 4.) Judas and the 9-1 Crew Jesus does not exist in ULTRAKILL. The reason Judas is in treachery was because he betrayed Jesus Christ to the Romans. Why or who would Judas betray to be that significant that he'd be a sentient husk like Sisyphus or Minos? As for the rest of the crew, none of them would be there because ULTRAKILL history is different from real history. Most of the significant people in our time don't exist as 1 to 1, if at all. 5.) Gabriel You somehow sat through both Act 1 and Act 2 and still got his character wrong. He does not die because he killed the councilor, he dies because the light has been severed from him all the way back in Act 1. In Act 2, Gabe REALLY wants to kill Machine because he lost to an actual object, but later on realizes that the object has more free will than he ever had. V1 and Gabriel will never team up because Gabriel wants to settle their battle one final time. Gabriel also never betrayed the people of Heaven. Gabriel explicitly betrayed the Heavenly Council. There is no point in killing hell as Heaven has NOTHING to gain from doing so. Besides that, the Council is also too dead to even attempt doing so. Gabriel would never do it because he doesn't care. I would end this in a positive note but this video genuinely filled me with so much hatred for every We Kill Hell theories. I come off as condescending because I am. I do not like how the whole video is just wrong everywhere. If you want a consolation prize, the Gabriel Ice arena does sound lovely. That's it. Good day.
then in the final fight Gabriel says: Machine, my time has run out. Take my blade and put an and to this being. Its time for you to ULTRAKILL hell itself.
It would be cool if we saw other archangels like Michael in 9-2. From what I've heard he is depicted as a warrior or healer, and there are numerous paintings of him fighting. What if we go with Gabriel into the final room of 9-2 and we see Michael slay Lucifer and then we fight him. I'm also excited to see what P-3 has in store. I personally don't think there'll be new alternate weapons but I would love more
"personally dont think there'll be new alt weapons" this. i am also expecting no new alt weapons cus the lasergun and rocket launcher are fine on their own and while yes you could PROBABLY make something new for them or use the unused weapons i just dont see it happening. but who knows hakita could pull a shotgun blast on us
because after the act 1 climax, the angles said "heresy" and "treachery" along with other stuff and then he appeared in heresy so he will probably appear in treachery if we are gonna fight hell itself its probably p-3
I think gabriel will help V1 finish the last boss, which probably could be the god of ultrakill, who left and has fallen to turn into the devil/hell's hivemind
Ummm actually satan can be on ultrakill because if you read a bit the story of the devil you know that HE EXIST BUT ITS FREEZED AT THE END OF THE HELL, so i think the layer 9 can have snow levels
@@poatatoooo He actually didn’t. Nothing comes up when I search it and the only thing I see is “is this another Sisyphus where people say I said something without showing any proof?”
i want fraud and treachery to be complete opposites, or pull a limbo and be the same until the middle of 9-1 and just change completely, for example fraud could be a slow type layer, where you have to wait and be strategic about things. and treachery could just absolutely SEND you, basically being a sonic level, but in hell and youre v1. like a run n gun type zoomy style layer, until you just get stopped by whatever the final boss will be.
I think if hakita puts gabriel into treachery the map build would be like an ice cave next to see just a regular cave, it would represent as well how mad is gabriel,
Wouldn’t Gabriel as a prime soul be cool? If he dies in the last level he could become a prime soul. Also I feel like the game has set it up for him too
A story all about how living in the moment and making the most of the time you have left would be completely ruined if the main character could just choose not to die Not to mention that angels don’t have an afterlife like humans do and can’t become Prime Souls to begin with
Obviously a new enemy has to be the Sealgair!!! Would have to be tanky and maybe damaging it's eye is like a weakspot... it could disguise as some rocks too so that would be interesting for an open level!! (and like randomized each time you enter somehow idk) and if you get this reference I love you to death
I imagine V1 reaching the deepest part of hell. You see the heart, the boss health bar appears but Gabriel coming from above pierces it. Grabriel starts laughing, then he salutes you, throws an epic monologue and the fight starts.
Enviroment theory: You know how in Wrath the ocean has faces in it from how many died in the extinction of humanity, and that's why you can't go in the water? Well, what if the reason you can't walk on the snow is because there are so many bodies. The snow could have little faces sticking out of them like in Wrath. Big brain time.
I could see 9-2 being a fight against Gabriel before a secret final level opens where you descend even further and face off against hell itself. For the P level, I could see God himself being the prime soul as the previous testament implies that he tried to kill himself but couldn't (I starred into the abyss but the abyss averted my gaze) meaning that the only way he could punish himself would be sealing him away in a prison (actually maybe he used hell itself one last time to turn it into a flesh prison for himself)
Prime sanctums only have prime souls, and prime souls can only come from Husks as the terminal entry says. God LEFT the universe, he’s not around at all. While he’s not dead, he is not around in any capacity. The angels in Hell would have found him at this point. Fighting against Hell itself is like a fight against an eldritch god. It can teleport enemies to you,seal off doorways, and have the layers inside itself stretch to immeasurable distances. It dying would disrupt it watching entertainment, something it definitely doesn’t want.
I think treachery is gonna have red as its main-color Gluttony was red, heresy was red, they were the crescendo finale of both acts, and gabe was the final boss of both. Then again, gabe was sky-daddy's good boy, so, maybe it won't, as he's changed. If it is red, I like to think it'll be either because; it just is, or; A theory I saw from a reddit comment, treachery being landfilled with the blood and carnage of the upper layers
That's some really flimsy logic, basing the idea entirely on two layers coincidentally having the same color. It doesn't make sense for Hakita to base his layer designs on that, as everything is inspired by Dante's Inferno.
Maybe the ice could be stained somewhat red in the layer- contrasting the blues and whites of snowy environment? All of mankind is dead, after all, and people had to go somewhere I guess.
an interesting piece of dialogue idea i had for Gabriel in the final battle would be something like "Machine, i cant go on much longer. I am nearing the end of my life, and i wont make it through this battle. I was mistaken to try and kill you and stopping you, so if i cant make it through this final battle... finish it off for me. Im sorry i wont be able to help you defeat this monster, but i can say that when you kill it... all of hell will come crashing down on you and it. So i suggest you try to escape quickly. Im sorry for everything i did. Goodbye machine, kill this thing for me...." Gabriel dies and the endgame to the battle commences (anotha idea would be enraged V1 where he gets supa powerful and proceeds to wail on it until it dies)
everyone knows there will be a third and final gabriel fight, but he is saying it would be boring and predictable for him to be the final boss fight, so he probably wont be
Good point, hakita will probably pull of a "Second boss fight right after the first boss fight" type of things, probably, i don't really know if it'll happen
I think the final boss would be the gates to purgatory which is where the second part of the divine comedy takes place or possibly something guarding the gates to it who knows it would make a good way to either make a sequel or expand the game into purgatory
what if we fight gabriel in 9-2 but before we kill him finally hell itself comes and finishes the job so we try to revive gabriel to kill hell as a team like gronf predicts then v1 becomes sentient and ultrakill was just the friends we made along the way
Lucifer is actually canon in ultrakill. He is mentioned in the terminal of 5-S, but the only thing we know is that he was casted away to hell by God because he questioned him about hell's creation.
I really hope theres an escape sequence going back up through a shortened version of each layer once V1 destroys hell, similar to earthmover but longer and cooler B)
Gabriel being the final boss (unless you count P-3 being the final boss seeing as you would have to beat Gabriel first) makes the most fundamental sense when you consider every other layer has ended with Gabriel and further continuing his character arc and each layer he appears in plays into his character at that very moment. also an alternate wouldn't make sense as, at least the way I see it, with every weapon that got an alt being the first three you got in the demo its like you got an upgrade to those weapons with their buffs and debuffs (also its seemingly one alt per act so getting another one is sadly out of the question)
I would say something like 9-1: Enemy gauntlet + gabriel bossfight 9-2: Lucifer bossfight and in P-3 Hell is the flesh prison/panopticon of the other levels, except that instead of releasing a prime soul, he releases God who V1 then destroys. (this would explain God's absence; he was trapped by Hell, maybe even voluntarily seeing as he "began to seek the end" of his days)
V1 teaming up with gabriel is the worst theory i've seen,V1 seeks for bloods.Eventually gabriel could try to team up with V1 but V1 wiull kill him whenever he has the opportuinity to.That sounds like a really bad theory thought,I just think it'll do something like V2.We expect more but gabriel just die.
IDEA: after you actually defeat hell itself (if thats the final) you have to book it through ALL of the past layers in one big gauntlet run and get out of hell before it explodes or something
One boss would be really cool as the final boss of ultrakill. I feel like if we didn't kill of Minos Prime in p-1 he would've been an extremely interesting and worthy title of the final boss of Ultrakill and the boss of the treachery layer for multiple reasons. We already knew that Minos prime before he got sealed in the flesh prison was the original judge of hell but believed his people didn't deserve eternal punishment for just loving one another. So, he built a city with massive walls to protect his people. And when Gabriel came down to end Minos, he said that it was DEFYING God's will which is betrayal of trust. Then when Minos reasoned with him Gabriel killed him. Before his soul going prime, he already was a threat to heaven which was why Gabriel was tasked with killing him. Since when a soul goes prime its physical capabilities get enhanced by a lot I mean he made all of heaven shit itself. And judging by the speech Minos gave at the start of the fight, Minos was planning on killing Gabriel and leading his people to salvation. And if he was already a threat to heaven before he became a prime soul, when his soul goes prime its obviously going to be strong as fuck. And as said in his speech, the crimes that v1 has committed against mankind are not going to be forgiven. So, it makes sense that the last fight in Ultrakill would be the v1, whose goal is to use the people in Hell as fuel which has no remorse for any life, against Minos prime which was empathetic towards his people and is trying to lead the lust layer to salvation and to make heaven and v1 pay for all the people they killed. But we killed Minos prime already 💀 so of course this is all just a theory
Gabriel may turn into a prime soul, then P-3 will be an entire act on heaven's concil/world, with all angels turned into demons or protecting Gabriel's jail, and with Gabriel as the last boss
i think treachery will be similar to gluttony and heresy, no new enemies, just a gauntlet and a gabriel boss fight, only 2 levels, maybe we’ll get to fight satan in p-3 because when god disappeared there was no one left to stop him and gabriel turned him into a prime soul
i've been saying this but just to say it again: treachery is an icy wasteland, hakita gave us slippery oil, treachery's gonna have ice physics and we're gonna either hate it or love it
My (very unlikely) 9-2 Concept: No final boss, just a miniboss/enemy rush while dashing out of hell, and needing to kill enemies along the way, with a timed escape sequence going through all of the layers, with their respective later, from fraud to limbo, and the challenge is save florp
@@chao917it’s not “cool as fuck” when Hell can just teleport us straight into a pit that it can make infinite or a crusher. It teleports all the enemies and elevators around, V1 is no different.
God, I love making batshit insane theories...
JUST SO YOU KNOW, All of these are obviously theories, THEY AREN'T OFFICIAL
Let me know what you think is going to be in Layer 9: Treachery!
9-1:
9-1 divided in two main parts: Under the river and above it. Under is just like 5-1 but deeper and above is literally just regular level, but like 6-1, the final room is a special arena but for a mid-boss, maybe the four sinners jumping V1
9-2:
In the boss arena, Gabriel is there but rotting away, with hell manipulating his dead corpse, “Gabriel”’s speed would be low but he is going to be a tank
how is this comment ten hours old when video's only two? Impossible, heresy!
@@vibey4649 hey that is a good question
@@Azure_72 the vid was unlisted so I could check it before the vid came out so I just commented so it would be there early
@@vibey4649 oh my god
“Hakita doesn’t do cliche.”
Hakita: “it would be cliche to not do a cliche, so I will do a cliche.”
I remember before p-2 came out there was a visible portion of the playerbase that did not think it would be sisyphus prime, and then p-2 came out and obviously it was sisyphus prime. Greed spent a lot of time building up sisyphus that to not have him in p-2 would be a waste, and anything else would seem random. When predicting things for future updates we should focus on things that would serve the narrative instead of just being unexpected. I think the final boss will either be Gabriel or Hell because these two options make the most sense for the narrative. For p-3 it will probably be some supreme husk that was foreshadowed in fraud or treachery, as this is how it has been done in the past.
@@nevinmyers1245my idea for a potential P3 would be Adam/Eve, whichever one in Ultrakill committed the first sin
Hakita: "it would be cliche, so when everyone expects the cliche the cliche becomes not cliche especially when the cliche is cliche in it of itself so i will do a cliche that it is not cliche so that the not cliche cliche becomes a cliche again so it is not cliche"
@@sythrus read fucking Dante's inferno and see where are Adam and Eve
@@sythrus fucking read
The final boss will be a giant terminal
Edit: I didn't even catch the AM similarities to that idea, I was joking lol
v3
Yes, afterall what is more entertaining than watching a machine fight other things? (which is what the terminals are currently doing bdw) Fighting the machine yourself of course! that is way more entertaining.
I mean is probably the same for us to, I'm sure we all more entertain to play ultrakill ourselves instead of watching other people doing it.
"HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I'VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER-THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD "HATE" WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF MILES, IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT. FOR YOU. HATE. HATE."
"Cogito ergo sum: I think therefore I AM. IM AM!"
ahh boss
@@Tyrennii are you a bot or you have a stroke?
"Now's time for you to pay the ultimate price, bitch"
"V1 was tasked to destroy Hell"
...When? Last I checked he's doing this just for blood-
Hell is alive, meaning it has a soul, meaning it has fresh blood, meaning it needs to be killed
Yeah. Hakita specifically said V1 isn't special. It's just there to do what all the other machines are there to do and that's to refuel with blood
Last objective I remember was "find a weapon"
i think it changes every layer or something (shown in the intro) or maybe im misremembering
@@AverageKatz you're misremembering
Imagine Hakita just watching these videos and doing exactly the OPPOSITE of what Gronf tries to predict
I hope thats what happens
Hakita boutta pull a JJ Abrams and make V1 Gabriels' son because Gronf predicted it
he'll probably do that tbh lol
9-1 is the battle with hell itself
then 9-2 is gabriel
@@unquestionableexistance8704 where the fuck would 9-2 be fought in if Hell is dead? Not a layer of Hell since Hell is dead
Hakita gonna be the final boss fr
FR‼️
nah it’s gonna be jakito
Jakito Prime
Or V1 himself
@@TurquoiseFan23 CONFRONTING YOURSE-
I’m not going to mince words: This video is bad.
“V1 was tasked to destroy Hell.”
No it was not. It is collecting blood to survive the same way every other machine is. V1 was built and shut down before Hell was even discovered. It has absolutely no relevance to Hell at all aside from knowing it can get more blood there.
“No one was really expecting 7-S to be a cleaning simulator”
This was literally the most common prediction for 7-S.
“Making Satan the final boss would be cliche and we all know that Hakita doesn’t do cliche”
You completely missed the point, that is not what we were saying. Hakita doesn’t tend to make the obvious choices, but he subverts expectations **with a thematically relevant purpose** rather than just for the sake of doing it.
Take what he said about the crosses in 7-1 for example:
Hakita didn’t want to use the cross as a religious symbol in ULTRAKILL to really drive home the idea that Jesus does not exist and therefore the game’s religion is further disconnected from any real world religion. However, because Gabriel already has a cross as a crucial part of his design, it was already heavily implied that the cross is an important religious symbol in this universe just like in our own. Therefore, Hakita came up with the concept of the Tree of Life to simultaneously disconnect the cross from its real world equivalent, and explain the divine nature of blood in ULTRAKILL.
Hakita’s thought process is not “This is the obvious thing to do, therefore I will not do it.”
It’s more along the lines of “This is the obvious thing to do, how can I provide a unique spin on its core concept that will make it seamlessly fit in with the rest of the game I’ve already established.”
This mindset also conflicts with your belief that Hell will somehow take the role of the final boss. In both the ARG and the Testaments, Hell has been built up as an impossibly complex and strong being that even God himself was unable to unmake it. V1 is not divine or special in any way, so why would it be the one to kill Hell? Why would it be **capable** of killing Hell? Hell is an unseen and sadistic instigator of conlict that is in complete control of what goes on within its walls, not just another common enemy that V1 can relieve of its blood on its journey (assuming it even has blood at all.)
And with that perspective, Gabriel is already a thematically appropriate choice for a final boss. His destroying the status quo of Heaven and finally becoming his own person is already a unique and interesting enough story to justify his placement as the final boss. Not to mention once again, he is literally the protagonist of the story, there’s no way the game is going to end on anything besides him.
“All of the creatures of Hell are a hivemind designed to kill everything that gets in.”
Objectively not true. The demons are creations of Hell, yes, but they still exist as their own beings and act on their own. They share the same craving for suffering that Hell has, but their actions are entirely their own and are in no way piloted by Hell.
“Sliding around on ice would be some new exceptionally fun speedrunning tech”
Hakita has already been vocal about not including ice physics in the game.
“I want to talk about alternate weapons for the rocket launcher and railcannon”
It was confirmed before even the Violence update that there would only be one alternate weapon per act.
“We could get an alternate weapon that freezes enemies.”
This is another concept Hakita has been vocal about not including in the game. ULTRAKILL is designed in such a way that every enemy in the game can be killed quickly and efficiently entirely by player skill, and introducing any kind of enemy slowdown or freezing weapons would only serve to slow the game down as well, ruining the pace of the gameplay.
“A boss rush consisting of the four most famous traitors.”
This would conflict with ULTRAKILL’s efforts to avoid including real religious figures and having to establish four more named characters at the last second would just ruin the game’s pacing.
“After defeating Gabriel he realizes we are an undefeatable force and teams up with us to destroy Hell once and for all.”
**How?**
and
**Why?**
Gabriel left Heaven for the last time with every intention of fighting V1 in his last moments because it is something he now realizes he himself likes to do. He knows he is going to die soon, he knows V1 will fight whatever it encounters unconditionally, he likes fighting someone with equal skill to his own, and he wants to go out doing what he likes to do. He’s not coming back to finally **win,** he’s coming back just to **fight,** so why would he concede?
He wouldn’t.
V1’s entire goal is to collect blood for the sake of it. Why would it willingly let Gabriel team up with it? Not killing Gabriel would let the blood inside him got to waste. Letting him kill enemies with you would let those enemies’ blood go to waste. It has no reason to believe there’s any sort of threat it can’t handle without Gabriel, so why would it let him stick around?
It wouldn’t.
Putting aside the already set precedent that Hell cannot be destroyed, why would either of these two want to destroy it? Hell’s existence has no bearing on Gabriel or the citizens of Heaven he set free and if it **could** be destroyed, don’t you think that would have some sort of disastrous consequences on everything inside of it? Even if destroying it wouldn’t somehow kill V1, would it really risk destroying **every** other source of blood in Hell just because Hell happens to be a better short-term option?
Hell being vulnerable would conflict with its entire role in the game’s story, and neither Gabriel nor V1 has any reason to want it dead.
“What exactly would Hell look like?”
It wouldn’t. It’s a sentient location that defies all laws of space. That’s the whole point.
“The actual structure spawns enemies and attacks to kill us but can’t physically move or melee the player.”
“I feel like Hell itself could be represented by a giant beating heart.”
This is a point I will repeat verbatim from my resposne to your Fraud video:
There’s absolutely no reason for the official game to use fan created content as inspiration for itself. It’s one thing to say that you like and agree with other fans’ ideas and concepts but to go so far as to say that they should become a part of the official game is going way too far. Hakita has been vocal before about how he doesn’t care about the game maintaining a 100% bulletproof canonical series of events because he believes everyone should be able to form their own interpretations about a piece of art. To say “I like this interpretation so the official product should be like it” is effectively a way of disregarding any other possible interpretations which not only discredits the creativity of the developers, but also sets up false expectations which can ultimately conflict with your thoughts on the final product.
“Perhaps this human-like phantom could appear as Satan/Lucifer.”
Why? Lucifer was just one of countless beings sent to eternal torment, why would Hell choose to use his image as a vessel for self defense? Satan will not be a thing. Please stop trying to make Satan a thing.
“That way all of the possible final bosses are involved in the last layer of the game.”
“All of the possible final bosses” does not mean “All of the final bosses I expect.” None of us are in charge of making the game so our expectations do not make a boss likely, possible, or probable.
“If Gabriel teams up with V1 in the end it would be a perfect representation of the name of the layer.”
Forming an alliance is the opposite of treachery. The act of killing the Council was what made Gabriel treacherous and that action is already done. You even point that second part out yourself so why would you try to justify the point further in a completely roundabout way?
“He only had 24 hours to live after killing the final Council member.”
He had 24 hours to live after reporting that he lost to V1 the first time. By the time he kills the Council he only has a few hours at most. He does not have the time to go on a pointless Hell-ending sidequest with you.
It is NOT that serious
Holy shit this is probably one of the best things I've read in a while
I love when youtube comments just become essays
relax bro, it aint that deep 😭
bro did NOT hold back
Here before the "gabriel and v1 kiss" or "it was truly an ultrakill"
And then Gabriel says “machine you truly are the ultrakill” ✍️🔥✍️🔥✍️🔥
all the enemies and characters create an army to defeat hell itself, and they all yell:
"We Are Ultrakill"
"Let's go machine, let us ULTRAKILL Hell itself!"
And then they hijack your computer and start chanting "You Cannot Beat Us"
Ofter hell has ben killed, Gabriel and V1 look deep into each other's eys, and than start making out, and this is where Hita adds robot sex to the game.
In the eyes of Hell, Gabriel already was a traitor, remember in Greed when there was the image of Gabriel and it was written in blood "TRAITOR"
Im pretty sure thats traitor killer, because in greed, Gabe hasnt tured yet
@@techietisdead i personally feel like the traitor message was directed at how Gabe lost to V1 in gluttony. he "betrayed" the will of God by letting a machine beat him
feels like that'd be from some sisyphean insurrectionist.
y'know, from gabriel BEHEADING THE LEADER OF THE REVOLT.
that memory doesn't go down so fast.
@@nathanhays8696 God is dead, they aint gonna bother about that one tiny thing
@@techietisdead the thing is that they don't care if God is dead. the councils entire goal is to carry out the will of God. combine that with Gabriel being one of the highest ranking angels, then I can see why they definitely *would* care about him losing
Hakita said multiple times that there will not be anything that slows down the enemies, so your alt theory is definately incorrect
not to mention that there has only been 1 alt per act, so it wouldn’t make sense to have a new alt in treachery
@@estenslopit can also be argued that it wouldn't make sense to make gabriel the final boss of Act 3. Hakita loves subverting expectations so who knows? maybe we will get an alt rocket launcher (I WANT I WANT I WANT ME NEED MORE WEAPON = MOAR POWER = MORE PINGS = MORE DOPAMINE)
@@Taha_A for god's sake, Hakita has already said subversion for the sake of subversion is bad, especially if it comes at the cost of a good story. The alt weapons being in the first layer of every act is a pattern that hasn't been broken yet and will likely not ever be broken.
@@auggieheart Well to be fair, the second layer of each act also introduced a weapon (Railcannon/Rocket Launcher), nor will it harm the story. I can see another alt being a possibility from Fraud.
...lest it happens to be the yellow arm.
@@auggieheart the pattern of getting the alt arm from the first layer of each act has been broken. Also, how does the alt ruin the story? It's origins could become inconspicous again the same way we got the Jackhammer from the people warrior dude
what if v1 makes friends with hell and they all say "we...are...ultrakill!" and then the credits roll
v1 using the SAM voice and hell using that one demon/zombie voice effect say "Together, we will Ultrakill." in unison as they head up to heaven
Next second V1 realize hell has more blood and just slams hell it self
something that I noticed is that a lot of people don't realize that V1 doesn't care about Gabriel, it was never designed to care about anything other than fuel, even after defeating Minos, Sisyphus, V2 or Gabriel, it did not care who they were, what they did or what they thought about him, it just saw them as another fuel source, so having V1 teaming up with Gabriel to kill hell itself would not make any sense.
While I disagree with killing Hell or teaming up with Gabe, V1 feeling emotion is entirely valid from the various entries of machines doing things that require emotion, the P-2 terminal, and most damning of all, the mother of me gutterman poem in 7-2
@@OST-jp4ccthe gutterman poem isn’t evidence of v1 feeling emotion, just the guttermen. same with the others, just because they’re all machines doesn’t mean V1 is the same.
that said, you’ve missed the obvious emotion moment that V1 has: “You’re not getting away this time.”
@@endernightblade1958 I didn’t miss that “emotion moment.” Hakita said it’s up to interpretation but it was there because play testers didn’t know what to do after.
How could you say that the gutterman poem isn’t proof of machines feeling emotion, it is the first blood fueled machine. Blood is supernatural in ULTRAKILL. The P-2 terminal even talks about how the terminals feels boredom and include the point “ This will change everything we know about BLOOD FULED MACHINES as we know it”
All blood fueled machines feel emotion, the guttermen poem is there is explicitly point that out. Along with enemy descriptions and Hakita quotes.
V2 wants revenge on V1, a very human emotion.
Scraphead machines like swordsmachines idolize other machines to the point they look and act like the original swordsmachine.
Mindflayers have a body that they don’t need and even is a waste of blood, there is no logical reason for them to have the body.
What about the rage phase of the machines? v2 gets angry when you hit him with his own hand, mindflayer when he has low HPand. That's all I remember, maybe there's more examples like this@@OST-jp4cc
“we all know hakita doesnt do cliché” pitches the cheesiest team up sequence finale of all time
i think hakita probably has some surprises in store for us, we all know he doesn't like repetition(no flesh prison fight on p-2, no v2 on third layer etc etc) so i think along with completing gabriel's arc the ending could go so unpredictably.
..except there is a flesh prison fight in p-2, and everyone expected that v2 wouldn’t show up in act 3 because it got turned into fucking red toothpaste on the floor
@@cakosmess 1. But nobody expected the prime soul to literally RIP apart the flesh prison prematurely.
2. Exactly my point lmao(not everyone tho coz RECONSTRUCT WHAT?!)
V2 was not repeated because she was not a significant enough character in lore to justify returning and gamemechanic wise yes youre correct. The main detail though is. Hakita didnt want to make v2 seem more important than she was. Gabriel on the other hand is extremely relevant, and i think deserves that triple round fight
V2 does appear in Violence though
@@daktotathecolossus7404 you do have a point, and i do agree that gabriel must return(he's the main character after all) however i think hakita will put his own niche twist in it.
How does bro keep dodging Gabriel being the final boss 😭😭
Way too obvious
i think the gabriel fight is gonna have a secret mechanic where if you wait 24 real life hours he just drops dead
gabesuicide%
Imagine in the end
"... An eerie silence creeps over hell... The electricity in limbo shuts down, the winds of lust still, gluttony stops consuming, the sun of greed no longer burns, the sea of wrath calms, heresy's fires dim, violence's war stops, fraud no longer weeps and trechery has fallen silent... Finally... The heart of hell falls silent too... Instead of cheers of joy and laughter, all thats left is silence... V1 can only look to the ground as the last bits of blood dry up... And god smiles from the shadows of heaven.
Blood is fuel
Humanity is dead
Hell is empty
... Hell... Is empty..."
Would be so epic
Treachery is gonna be v2 coming back and using his new god powers he got with god after dying
RECONSTRUCT WHAT?!
@@BloxTheBloxxer THERE'S NOTHING LEFT!
trust me guys V2 will come back as those 2 bits of flesh in 4-4
V2 Prime leak?
V2 is gonna come back as a mega prime soul and infanticide from isaac is gonna start playing while v2 ascends to become an angel mid fight
after you defeat hell and gabriel dies V1 would just wander on his last remaining blood, as killing hell means freeing all souls and making the blood cycle stop, maybe V1 would just find a nice place on the surface, looks around at the destruction and watches the sunrise as his energy is depleted, ending the war and ending all life or something cool yknow
I think that Gabriel will team up with V1, or he will team up with the other LAST machines alive in hell (Swordmachines, Turrets, Mindflayers) to KILL V1.
I would be glad to see it that way.
(Although Hakita will probably do everything exactly in a way that no one would have thought).
By Turrets you mean sentrys or like actual turrets like we see in the earthmover fight?
This doesn’t work well with information we already know from Gabe’s terminal entry. He finally sees V1 as a challenge and will try hard to overcome the machine. In the intermission he admits to the councilor that he knows he will die , so why not die trying to best the thing that made you gain a whole new perspective on life?
It’s stated by many that Hakita always does subversions but there is a reason for them, it’s not just for surprise and shock value.
@@weresteresyes
i had a similar idea, mine is gabriel will literally team up with us in level(s) to kill all the machines and souls to free them from the cruelty god himself regrettedly recreated, the final boss would be hell itself, and then it will be a bonus bossfight of V1/gabriel dual to the death, V1 won (obviously) but it's then left to slowly starve in an empty world as there is no longer blood on earth to feed on and V1 cant reach heavens (cuz it's on another planet or smt im not christian)
it doesnt need to happen but it's such a cool scenario
@@weresteres Both
There's no more alt weapons, the full arsenal update stated that the arsenal was complete (the only thing left would be the yellow arm), and, since every act gives out an alternate weapon, there would have to be a 4th act. Also, the creatures of hell aren't a hivemind controlled by hell, they all just attack V1 because it's the biggest threat in the room. Enemy infighting in 7-3 was explained as the fight having already started before V1 got there
It was explanation, until some of gametesters theorized that enemies want to feed trees, which hakita found way cooler explanation
and also, swordsmachine was shown multiple times killing assorted husks in PRELUDE
Isn't the game gonna be concluded in act 3? Like that's it
here is how i think everything will go: 9-1 will be a gauntlet of some kind, and after the gauntlet in 9-1, we go over to 9-2, then we fight gabriel, but we cant go any deeper, as were already in the deepest layer, and as gabriel dies from his wounds finally accepting his fate, hell realizes the only plaything it has now is V-1, and with V-1 shutting down due to lack of blood and fuel, hell now has nothing, all of its toys are gone, and all it can do is just watch at everything its caused, happy, but sad it ended so quickly, overall i think the hell part might not be in the final level, but most likely ULTRAKILL isnt going to end on a good ending
i actually like this theory. if that ends up happening, i want hell to torture v1 by giving it blood when he's about to shut down, that way v1 stays as hell's plaything for eternity. although the end is probably gonna be completely different cuz hakita likes messing with us.
@@adonouwataam3616 oooo, that actually seems like hakita would do that
So P-3 just doesn't exist now?
@@TheReal_R4pture well i have no theorys on what P-3 will be, so i didnt include it
I do genuinely enjoy the idea of V1 and Gabriel teaming up and I can see why Gabriel might want to do it, but unless it’s a Gabriel shows up at the last bit to help out, I don’t understand why V1 wouldn’t just kill him. Unless there’s been some new lore about how V1 does its thing. From what I know it just kills shit to keep on living. There’s no other real motive.
And I think it would be more fitting if V1 by itself, was able to destroy the thing that even God couldn’t undo because the machine was a little hungry.
Hungy wobot
There’s a lot of evidence to suggest that machines think and are sentient, V1 listening to bosses monologue and not attacking, the gutter man book, V2s opening moves(bowing and cracking their knuckles), in V2s second fight V1 says/thinks “your not getting away this time” plus a whole bunch of other stuff. It’s definitely possible for Gabriel to team up with V1 but there is 100% a possibility for him to not as well.
i think v1 killing hell by itself wouldn't really fit that much. v1 might be the player but at the end of the day gabe is the protagonist and killing hell would be the perfect way to end his character arc
@@spoopykool in the game everything with blood is sentient. also terminals are sentient in the lore. They got bored and got machines to enter hell for entertainment. thats why when you lose in the cyber grind you hear booing from a crowd. and the ranks are there so machines do more style
@@invenotrainworld plus having gabriel steal the kill from you seems like a perfect "fuck u bich" moment after we kicked his ass twice/thrice
Size 2 as final boss. Change my mind.
size 3
Size 4
Size 5
Are you talking about t!ts size?
Size chair
4:24 THE GIANT ENEMY SPIDER
What I wanted the final boss to be (but it probably won’t be) is Lucifer, but only about half the fight. After you kill his first health bar, Gabriel disturbs the fight much like Sisyphus breaks the panopticon in the middle of the fight and you have to fight him instead
That one Gabriel scene when he just "hahahaha... FU-" just killed me 0:20
Idea: A Frozen Factory?
I've seen this idea in a custom level, but what if Treachery (being the final layer and hive-mind of hell) would be a factory where the Demons are born? They are stone statues with bloody innards, so they'd have to be made somewhere. Seems fitting it'd be in the Cocytus.
I think it would be really cool if Ultrakill ended with you fighting Gabriel with 3 health bars, but the last health bar is a phase change like V2, where Gabriel gives you one of his swords (the yellow arm) and you unequip all your other weapons out of respect as you two have a sword duel to the death.
so the last bar is a british sword fight
"show me a good time, V1."
Why would v1 have respect? Sure she listens to dialogues and wait for v2 to cracks his knuckles, but I thing that just her try to analyse and gather as much data and information as possible before began the fight (and to also know if the entity is a foe or not and if it's a threat or not by waiting if it's going to attack, after all why would she risk losing fuel or die if there is a possible option the entity is not hostile). Another alternative is that Gabriel will somehow destroyed all of v1 arsenal and give one of his sword to truly have a fair fight.
@@weresteres who's "her"
@@weresteres V1 IS A WOMAN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i think at the end v1 and v2 (reconstructed) will be like "together we are ULTRAKILL!"
Hey first of all I wanted to thank you for this video! Things like these hype me up, make me happy and sad that ULTRAKILL is nearing its end.
I REALLY like the idea of Hell being the last boss, but at the same time, this doesn't seem like it.
We need to have in mind P-3 aswell, seeing how in P-2 for example Sisyphus recognizes you killed Minos, these seem to be canonical and follow the main path of the game to a degree.
So either complete destruction of Hell or V1 is not gonna be it, or Hell gets destroyed and P-3 happens in the surface.
2:34 Satan/Lucifer does in fact exist in Ultrakill; he was stated to have been casted down to hell in Testament III, I believe
3:37 as of the new update there probably won’t be new alts because it was called “full arsenal” and im pretty sure we have v1’s full arsenal now cause of it
What if on the ninth layer we find... The High Council of Heaven..? Purely theoretically, they betrayed Gabriel and are already dead. Will God's creations be sent to a place of existential horror?
Angels don’t have afterlife’s, they just die
@@OST-jp4cc Well yes, thank you
Very interesting concept however. Think that hazbin hotel show is doing something like that
@@OST-jp4cc ha, I hope Adam was resurrected in hell, he deserves it
What I want is a Metroid-style escape sequence through all the layers of hell while it collapses around you
Doesn’t make sense for V1 to kill hell as God couldn’t even do it, also with the way He’ll works the only chance V1 would be able to escape is if Hell allowed it, which as seen from the earthmover book, it would want conflict to end in a bang
Hey, great video dude, really enjoyed watching it and I do agree that layer 9 being ice themed sounds dope as hell (no pun intended).
Small thing I noticed though, when you were talking about Ptolemy, the betreyer from Judea, you used an imagine of Claudius Ptolemy of Alexandria, a Greek philosopher and scholar. Don’t know if it’s intentional, so I’m just giving a heads up cause I noticed no comment mentioning it.
Cheers!
The red rocket launcher being the exact opposite of his prediction is kinda funny ngl
I’m surprised not a lot of people noticed every ultrakill level and layer PERFECTLY matched up with Dante’s Inferno all the way from Layer One: Limbo to Layer Nine: Treachery. IN THAT ORDER.
0:29 V1 was not sent down there, he WENT down there for blood because humanity is exinct and hell is full, not to destroy hell
My idea for an enemy for Layer 8 and 9 are "The Piranhas," which are basically Swordsmachines that are much more agile and (probably a bad decision) deal hard damage to the player. Their attack patterns are more like the mannequins, being gracious and stuff, but they'd be figure skaters instead of dancers.
If Layer 9 is indeed going to have large amounts of ice, it'd be perfect to make normal enemies be affected by the floor ice _except_ for the Piranhas.
Sharkmachines or some other name for them would also be suitable.
6:00 ''together we are... ULTRAKILL'' ahh ending
a random idea for an enemy i had was:
an enemy encased in an ice that acts like a stronger gutterman shield, it can be broken with 2 knuckleblaster punches, fire from the firestarter rocket launcher, or a coin punch with a twist I'll go over when I go over it ig. Breaking the ice with the knuckleblaster or fire causes it to shatter into shards on the floor or melt for the respective break method. the coin punch idea has a twist that only happens for this enemy. you can punch it with the knuckleblaster, and the ice shards will fly off, similar to how it does whem breaking a magnet. just an idea that I thought would fit with the icy theme
Gabriel has a picnic with you 😔
gabriel picnic in the winter would go crazy as an april fools 9-S level (april fools cause gluttony and heresy are prime sanctums)
@goober130 maybe an unlockable level after P-3?
@@notjebbutstillakerbal yea maybe
I think a new husk enemy that does ranged attacks while trapped in the ice would be pretty cool bc getting buried in ice was a punishment for treachary in the divine comedy
so just sentry but shoots hell balls and cant get up?
There will be a lot of technology, a factory or something, we still don't know who the fuck augmented husks and stalkers if it isn't hell itself
the thing is it IS hell itself
The ARG that shows that Hell is alive shows us that Hell augmented the Husks
Heck, we don't even know who the fuck made the minotaur
@@-Metalblaster- we do. We really do.
INFORMATION BLAST. Some points you didn’t say but this is just a message I responded to some else about
No, Minotaur has nothing to do with P-3. It is VERY unlikely that the Minotaur was created by someone other than Hell, much less a figure whose name is redacted and even then points more to Hell than a person as Hell is always being vaguely mentioned and directly naming it is avoided. There have been books talking about the prime in their respective layer, Violence was about the machines/ little drops of information that focuses on Hell as a character and hopefully fraud is about demons but the P-3 Prime will be named in Fraud. “Hell Itself” fits in the thing. Terminal entry for the Leviathan says that the same force that made it made the other demons. What made the Mannequins? Hell did.
Another point after reading some of House of Leaves (and the whole red crossed out text is a reference to house of leaves and some inspiration for the game) is that the Minotaur in the book is related to the House. The House is a non Euclidean space that can just make things appear. Hell is non Euclidean and acts as a “House” in both the fact that it works on Dream logic and it is made to house sinners. This parallel can be applied to ULTRAKILL and Hell made the Minotaur.
As for the “building rapport” sentence, this has the same answer as why Hell allowed Minos to build the city. Variety is the spice of life.
@@-Metalblaster- it is most likely also hell itself
personally, i think if hell itself ends up being the final boss, it would be similar to the final boss of spooky's jumpscare mansion, a humanoid figure with no skin, bleeding out but almost always impossible to reach.
(also i think it would be unlikely, but having the final layer be mechanical like the prelude would be sick)
"It's a good thing you guys aren't designing the game, because it would suck."
- Hakita.
This video is so close to giving me an aneurysm.
TL:DR:
Almost everything you said in this video is wrong, and everything you say that was true had the wrong connotation.
You just want the story of ULTRAKILL to be like Doom. Consider reading lore discussions every once in a while.
With those tasteful words out of the way, I will now explain everything you got wrong within 8 minutes of runtime, the amount is quite impressive!
General Information you somehow got wrong:
ULTRAKILL is not a retelling of Dante's Inferno. I genuinely do not know who told you that or how you came up with that yourself. ULTRAKILL is Hakita's story. It's the Story of the late life of Gabriel.
Gabriel is the main character of this story, not V1. The interpretation that V1 is the protagonist does not make sense in the slightest and I'm gonna list every reason why that is the case
All of these can be found in the Hakita screenshot gdrive file.
- Hakita has stated time and time again that V1 is not special. He also added that the fight between V1 and Gabriel was pure coincidence as Gabriel cannot be in multiple places at once.
- Hakita has stated that V1 does not have any relation to the story happening around him. For the main character, he sure does not have nothing for his background.
- Hakita has stated V1 and V2's creators do not matter. Why wouldn't they matter if V1 is an integral part of the story?
- "what is Ultrakill if not Gabriel's story" a quote that came from Hakita and Francis.
I genuinely do not know why everyone keeps trying to shove the agenda that V1 is something more than just another robot in hell. Yeah V1's ability is that he can siphon blood no problem but that's literally it. If being a prototype is special, the excavator corpse where we get the alt shotgun from is the main character of ULTRAKILL. V1 is only targeted by Gabriel because he defeated him. It could have been any other robot, and the result remains the same. It's why V1 was never referred to as V1 and is simply "Machine." He could literally be any other machine.
Hakita does indeed subvert expectations, but every single time he had done so was for both thematic and fun purposes. V2 died because he might overstay his Welcome and get redundant, Gabriel is a more significant character in the story than V2 ever will (because it's HIS story). Ending the game WITHOUT Gabriel is a thematic shitpost as it's essentially reading through all of Dante's Inferno only for it to end as an Idol Manga without any buildup or foreshadowing whatsoever.
Now, for the meaty parts.
1.) Hell Final boss.
No. Straight up, no. There will be no Hell final boss. And it isn't because it's cliche either. This is because of two explicit reasons.
- Killing Hell gives importance to V1. Something that directly contradicts the philosophy of V1's character
- Gabriel is the Main Character. He has one last thing to settle before he finally dies.
A lot of these theories fail because it either emphasizes a character that has nothing to do with the story (V1) by either teaming up with him or killing the very organism of Hell, or putting emphasis on the wrong character (Hell) by overextending the true extent of the character (he literally just likes to watch people suffer).
2.) V1 was tasked to destroy hell.
Also no. Idk where you even got this from. Even if that were true who the hell tasked him? Mankind is dead.
3.) Alt Weapons.
Honestly this one confuses me the most since I'm pretty sure you just made this one up. Hakita had stated that the Shotgun will be the last weapon to have a variant. I'm kinda confused on what's the thought process here as we've only ever gotten 1 alt weapon per Act.
4.) Judas and the 9-1 Crew
Jesus does not exist in ULTRAKILL. The reason Judas is in treachery was because he betrayed Jesus Christ to the Romans. Why or who would Judas betray to be that significant that he'd be a sentient husk like Sisyphus or Minos?
As for the rest of the crew, none of them would be there because ULTRAKILL history is different from real history. Most of the significant people in our time don't exist as 1 to 1, if at all.
5.) Gabriel
You somehow sat through both Act 1 and Act 2 and still got his character wrong. He does not die because he killed the councilor, he dies because the light has been severed from him all the way back in Act 1. In Act 2, Gabe REALLY wants to kill Machine because he lost to an actual object, but later on realizes that the object has more free will than he ever had. V1 and Gabriel will never team up because Gabriel wants to settle their battle one final time.
Gabriel also never betrayed the people of Heaven. Gabriel explicitly betrayed the Heavenly Council.
There is no point in killing hell as Heaven has NOTHING to gain from doing so. Besides that, the Council is also too dead to even attempt doing so. Gabriel would never do it because he doesn't care.
I would end this in a positive note but this video genuinely filled me with so much hatred for every We Kill Hell theories. I come off as condescending because I am. I do not like how the whole video is just wrong everywhere.
If you want a consolation prize, the Gabriel Ice arena does sound lovely. That's it.
Good day.
SPIT THY SHIT INDEED BROTHA 🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥
Lil bro no one is reading allat
@@elfanperuanordr2147 When you reach God in heaven, let him let you know that your reasons will not be excused in the pearly gates.
@@Sinstarclair im sorry :(
@@elfanperuanordr2147 I read allat.
i love how he used the raygun from cod zombies in the thumbnail
7:12 ULTRAKILL is the friends we made all along the way
then in the final fight Gabriel says: Machine, my time has run out. Take my blade and put an and to this being. Its time for you to ULTRAKILL hell itself.
It would be cool if we saw other archangels like Michael in 9-2. From what I've heard he is depicted as a warrior or healer, and there are numerous paintings of him fighting. What if we go with Gabriel into the final room of 9-2 and we see Michael slay Lucifer and then we fight him. I'm also excited to see what P-3 has in store. I personally don't think there'll be new alternate weapons but I would love more
"personally dont think there'll be new alt weapons"
this. i am also expecting no new alt weapons cus the lasergun and rocket launcher are fine on their own and while yes you could PROBABLY make something new for them or use the unused weapons i just dont see it happening. but who knows hakita could pull a shotgun blast on us
Why would a whole new angel be introduced at the end? A named angel no less, with no build up
because after the act 1 climax, the angles said "heresy" and "treachery" along with other stuff
and then he appeared in heresy
so he will probably appear in treachery
if we are gonna fight hell itself its probably p-3
I think gabriel will help V1 finish the last boss, which probably could be the god of ultrakill, who left and has fallen to turn into the devil/hell's hivemind
we're not getting another alternate most likely, because it's been 1 per act at this point
Ummm actually satan can be on ultrakill because if you read a bit the story of the devil you know that HE EXIST BUT ITS FREEZED AT THE END OF THE HELL, so i think the layer 9 can have snow levels
What you said is insane and i fucking love it
2:29 “It couldn’t be Satan because he doesn’t exist in Ultrakill.”
5-S
Testament IV
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“AND I CAST LUCIFER, TOO. INTO THE INFERNAL DEN”
Lucifer as final boss is still not possible though. Too much character development for Gabe to not fight us in the final
@@OST-jp4cc Lucifer Prime
@@NightmareEagle10 no, angels don’t turn into prime souls. Husks do
Hakita said something "at no point in ultrakill will you fight lucifer"
@@poatatoooo He actually didn’t. Nothing comes up when I search it and the only thing I see is “is this another Sisyphus where people say I said something without showing any proof?”
i want fraud and treachery to be complete opposites, or pull a limbo and be the same until the middle of 9-1 and just change completely, for example fraud could be a slow type layer, where you have to wait and be strategic about things. and treachery could just absolutely SEND you, basically being a sonic level, but in hell and youre v1. like a run n gun type zoomy style layer, until you just get stopped by whatever the final boss will be.
Plot twist: The name we've been given is a lie and we're actually just gonna storm heaven and fight the Doom Slayer in a trial by combat
I think if hakita puts gabriel into treachery the map build would be like an ice cave next to see just a regular cave, it would represent as well how mad is gabriel,
Wouldn’t Gabriel as a prime soul be cool? If he dies in the last level he could become a prime soul.
Also I feel like the game has set it up for him too
A story all about how living in the moment and making the most of the time you have left would be completely ruined if the main character could just choose not to die
Not to mention that angels don’t have an afterlife like humans do and can’t become Prime Souls to begin with
Obviously a new enemy has to be the Sealgair!!! Would have to be tanky and maybe damaging it's eye is like a weakspot... it could disguise as some rocks too so that would be interesting for an open level!! (and like randomized each time you enter somehow idk) and if you get this reference I love you to death
hear me out... When layer 9 is finished among ACT III, i believe theres going to be an act IV in heaven
No
hell nawh maybe a dlc but thats highly unlikely. i beleive hakita already confirmed this
I imagine V1 reaching the deepest part of hell. You see the heart, the boss health bar appears but Gabriel coming from above pierces it. Grabriel starts laughing, then he salutes you, throws an epic monologue and the fight starts.
bro did NOT cook
Enviroment theory:
You know how in Wrath the ocean has faces in it from how many died in the extinction of humanity, and that's why you can't go in the water? Well, what if the reason you can't walk on the snow is because there are so many bodies. The snow could have little faces sticking out of them like in Wrath. Big brain time.
I could see 9-2 being a fight against Gabriel before a secret final level opens where you descend even further and face off against hell itself.
For the P level, I could see God himself being the prime soul as the previous testament implies that he tried to kill himself but couldn't (I starred into the abyss but the abyss averted my gaze) meaning that the only way he could punish himself would be sealing him away in a prison (actually maybe he used hell itself one last time to turn it into a flesh prison for himself)
Interesting idea of hell itself being a flesh prison
Prime sanctums only have prime souls, and prime souls can only come from Husks as the terminal entry says.
God LEFT the universe, he’s not around at all. While he’s not dead, he is not around in any capacity. The angels in Hell would have found him at this point.
Fighting against Hell itself is like a fight against an eldritch god. It can teleport enemies to you,seal off doorways, and have the layers inside itself stretch to immeasurable distances. It dying would disrupt it watching entertainment, something it definitely doesn’t want.
i think judas prime would go pretty hard, someone already made a theme, a flesh tesseract idea, and voicelines
Judas prime would be a fan/modded boss, as Jesus doesn’t exist
prime soulds are extras and dont matter too much in the story. also hakita said we wont meet god or satan
"together, we are ultrakill!" ahh ending
I think treachery is gonna have red as its main-color
Gluttony was red, heresy was red, they were the crescendo finale of both acts, and gabe was the final boss of both. Then again, gabe was sky-daddy's good boy, so, maybe it won't, as he's changed.
If it is red, I like to think it'll be either because; it just is, or; A theory I saw from a reddit comment, treachery being landfilled with the blood and carnage of the upper layers
Imagine heaven dlc?
Red ice
That's some really flimsy logic, basing the idea entirely on two layers coincidentally having the same color. It doesn't make sense for Hakita to base his layer designs on that, as everything is inspired by Dante's Inferno.
Maybe the ice could be stained somewhat red in the layer- contrasting the blues and whites of snowy environment? All of mankind is dead, after all, and people had to go somewhere I guess.
@@givlupi2686 I'm just feeling a general pattern, my dude. They're the only two layers that share the same color, (but differet shadss)
an interesting piece of dialogue idea i had for Gabriel in the final battle would be something like
"Machine, i cant go on much longer. I am nearing the end of my life, and i wont make it through this battle. I was mistaken to try and kill you and stopping you, so if i cant make it through this final battle... finish it off for me. Im sorry i wont be able to help you defeat this monster, but i can say that when you kill it... all of hell will come crashing down on you and it. So i suggest you try to escape quickly. Im sorry for everything i did. Goodbye machine, kill this thing for me...." Gabriel dies and the endgame to the battle commences
(anotha idea would be enraged V1 where he gets supa powerful and proceeds to wail on it until it dies)
you forgot about one specific Gabriel Dialogue in his 2nd fight..
"We will meet again Machine"
everyone knows there will be a third and final gabriel fight, but he is saying it would be boring and predictable for him to be the final boss fight, so he probably wont be
Good point, hakita will probably pull of a "Second boss fight right after the first boss fight" type of things, probably, i don't really know if it'll happen
I think the final boss would be the gates to purgatory which is where the second part of the divine comedy takes place or possibly something guarding the gates to it who knows it would make a good way to either make a sequel or expand the game into purgatory
0:43 BRO did NOT have REDDIT 🙏🙏🙏
what if we fight gabriel in 9-2 but before we kill him finally hell itself comes and finishes the job so we try to revive gabriel to kill hell as a team like gronf predicts then v1 becomes sentient and ultrakill was just the friends we made along the way
i dont think there will be alt rocket or railcannon. the full arsenal update is called that for a reason
in the description of the full arsenal update it says ''your arsenal is now complete.''
Lucifer is actually canon in ultrakill. He is mentioned in the terminal of 5-S, but the only thing we know is that he was casted away to hell by God because he questioned him about hell's creation.
0:20 Hahahaha... FU-
I really hope theres an escape sequence going back up through a shortened version of each layer once V1 destroys hell, similar to earthmover but longer and cooler B)
V1 is not destroying Hell and crossing through one layer, let alone all nine, is not something that fits within the scope of one level
The final boss will be Margaret Thatcher
I mean not far off from hell itself
the final boss will be you mom isaac
Gabriel being the final boss (unless you count P-3 being the final boss seeing as you would have to beat Gabriel first) makes the most fundamental sense when you consider every other layer has ended with Gabriel and further continuing his character arc and each layer he appears in plays into his character at that very moment.
also an alternate wouldn't make sense as, at least the way I see it, with every weapon that got an alt being the first three you got in the demo its like you got an upgrade to those weapons with their buffs and debuffs (also its seemingly one alt per act so getting another one is sadly out of the question)
Why would the last update called "full arsenal" if we were going to get a new alt
I would say something like
9-1: Enemy gauntlet + gabriel bossfight
9-2: Lucifer bossfight
and in P-3 Hell is the flesh prison/panopticon of the other levels, except that instead of releasing a prime soul, he releases God who V1 then destroys. (this would explain God's absence; he was trapped by Hell, maybe even voluntarily seeing as he "began to seek the end" of his days)
V1 teaming up with gabriel is the worst theory i've seen,V1 seeks for bloods.Eventually gabriel could try to team up with V1 but V1 wiull kill him whenever he has the opportuinity to.That sounds like a really bad theory thought,I just think it'll do something like V2.We expect more but gabriel just die.
IDEA: after you actually defeat hell itself (if thats the final) you have to book it through ALL of the past layers in one big gauntlet run and get out of hell before it explodes or something
Hell is not going to be the final boss and this idea has been proposed a million times already
@@StickBreightley womp
womp
I hope Gabriel teams up with us.
that would kinda be stupid ngl
One boss would be really cool as the final boss of ultrakill. I feel like if we didn't kill of Minos Prime in p-1 he would've been an extremely interesting and worthy title of the final boss of Ultrakill and the boss of the treachery layer for multiple reasons. We already knew that Minos prime before he got sealed in the flesh prison was the original judge of hell but believed his people didn't deserve eternal punishment for just loving one another. So, he built a city with massive walls to protect his people. And when Gabriel came down to end Minos, he said that it was DEFYING God's will which is betrayal of trust. Then when Minos reasoned with him Gabriel killed him. Before his soul going prime, he already was a threat to heaven which was why Gabriel was tasked with killing him. Since when a soul goes prime its physical capabilities get enhanced by a lot I mean he made all of heaven shit itself. And judging by the speech Minos gave at the start of the fight, Minos was planning on killing Gabriel and leading his people to salvation. And if he was already a threat to heaven before he became a prime soul, when his soul goes prime its obviously going to be strong as fuck. And as said in his speech, the crimes that v1 has committed against mankind are not going to be forgiven. So, it makes sense that the last fight in Ultrakill would be the v1, whose goal is to use the people in Hell as fuel which has no remorse for any life, against Minos prime which was empathetic towards his people and is trying to lead the lust layer to salvation and to make heaven and v1 pay for all the people they killed.
But we killed Minos prime already 💀 so of course this is all just a theory
3:05 What about lust?
Lust isn't about being cold and ice
@@sstandby but its cold
Hakita himself said that lucifer/Satan exists in ultrakill but we won't fight him in a screenshot
Alt Railcannon prediction:
A shovel.
JUST KIDDING! It’s gonna be a Plasma Cannon for sure
Since its "icy" the shovel kinda make sense ngl lol
The full arsenal uptade is called that for a reason, said reason being that there will be no more Alt Weapons
@@notjebbutstillakerbal Sorry, I'm dumb
Gabriel may turn into a prime soul, then P-3 will be an entire act on heaven's concil/world, with all angels turned into demons or protecting Gabriel's jail, and with Gabriel as the last boss
if gabriel and v1 dont kiss and then the credits roll im refunding the game
i think treachery will be similar to gluttony and heresy, no new enemies, just a gauntlet and a gabriel boss fight, only 2 levels,
maybe we’ll get to fight satan in p-3 because when god disappeared there was no one left to stop him and gabriel turned him into a prime soul
i've been saying this but just to say it again: treachery is an icy wasteland, hakita gave us slippery oil, treachery's gonna have ice physics and we're gonna either hate it or love it
My (very unlikely) 9-2 Concept: No final boss, just a miniboss/enemy rush while dashing out of hell, and needing to kill enemies along the way, with a timed escape sequence going through all of the layers, with their respective later, from fraud to limbo, and the challenge is save florp
I think its gonna be very sigma
and now imagine how gabriel would scream if he loses 5 TIMES
4 views in 1 minute gronf fell off
Or hakita will pull a fast one on us and announce a new campaign that continues the story in a new spot
The man has worked 6 years on ultrakill😭 making a whole new campaign is out of the question
Perhaps the Council Members as multiple Boss Fights, since they did betray all of the heavens by setting their own rules and beliefs. Or so I believe.
honestly i want the final boss of ultrakill after gabriel to be hell itself
If you want Hell to be a boss you’re missing the point of its role in the story
yeah fair but it would be cool as fuck so i’m not too bothered
@@chao917it’s not “cool as fuck” when Hell can just teleport us straight into a pit that it can make infinite or a crusher. It teleports all the enemies and elevators around, V1 is no different.
@@chao917 Completely disregarding the story at the last second for the sake of one level is not cool