@@aliprunner I don't think it can be illegal as long as she doesn't take any money, since I'm sure people put their horses up for sale and then change their minds all the time.
Maybe you stumbled onto an unknown traffic!ck!ng ring. There was one on Etsy a couple months ago where people were buying images of pizza for $14,000-$20,000. Immediate downloads promised. Guess the pizza was sinister material.
A friend bought an English Show Gelding for $50,000 - for her pre-teen daughter who'd never cantered a horse, let alone could handle an 18h big boy, but she can be-jewel him mane to tail like the best little Blue Ribbon Crafter! (Every photo shows the miserable guy expressing, "save me or just kill me now")
Guy at my barn just bought a 6yr 18hh fresian stallion (to be gelded, expected to hit 18.3hh) with basic w/t dressage training for his 8yr old daughter who is still learning to post the trot. People with more money than sense...
@@anniemoultray3437What happened with buying older,calm, well trained ponies for kids so that they learn to ride... safely, closer to ground,on animal they can somewhat control...? Poor girl, I hope she doesn't become terrified or hurt after inadvertently falling off 18 hh horse. I'm 6 ft tall, leave 18hh+ horses for us ogres goddamnit 😂
@@anniemoultray3437What happened with buying older,calm, well trained ponies for kids so that they learn to ride... safely, closer to ground,on animal they can somewhat control...? Poor girl, I hope she doesn't become terrified or hurt after inadvertently falling off 18 hh horse. I'm 6 ft tall, leave 18hh+ horses for us ogres goddamnit 😂
I am an old lady horseman. The most I ever paid for a horse was $5k. He was an off the track Registered TB who also had a Great deal of training behind him. Lovely horse. Since passed. And that was …… 16 years ago I bought him
My friends thout that I was mad when I bought a 15 year old mare appendix registerd, sire a QH, dam a 'foundation mare, Reg TB - for $750 (in Australia) a few years ago and I can no longer ride. She was the perfect horse for me, quiet, REALLY bombproof. Nowadays she would easily fetch $5000 plus. Even if I could still ride I wouldn't be able to afford a horse like that.
Hey there, me too. Both your description of yourself and the price you paid lol. Although mine was about 33yrs ago, and he was one of Turf Ruler's last offspring. He was a stunning racehorse, but he was known to be a bit nutty and highly strung, which he passed on to my gorgeous boy. I absolutely adored that horse 😊
Raleigh. He didnt think you smelled bad. He obviously has been around horses. Which to me is the best smell ever. I love the smell of horse and leather. Am I wierd? Lol😮
@@barbrice721 I didn't know how that would go since this is mostly a female audience. But on a real note, I instantly thought how creepy that guy was more than just that Raleigh smelled bad... Stay clear of that dude.
I feel even more blessed after watching this video. I got my unicorn for $2,500 when he was 19. His family retired him after he was a ranch horse for 17 years and just wanted a nice life for him. OMG he is the total package! AQHA, no vices, sound, athletic enough for any discipline except upper level dressage. He just turned 24 and we continue to have amazing adventures ❤
Friesian crosses are the doodles of the horse world and you can’t convince me otherwise. Backyard breeders will breed anything with a poodle for a paycheck because they’re popular, and backyard horse breeders will do the same thing with Friesians.
Well as a person actually living in Friesland (Friesia) and having experience with working with Friesians and Arabians on a studfarm... The Arabo-Friesian is an actual breed with studbook and all. I think an Arab Friesian outside of the Netherlands will be quite expensive.
GIRL!!!! Im so with you on this. I live in Australia and compared to the States our prices are so good. Ive seen the ridiculous prices that even horses there at horse sale markets are being sold for. Im absolutely shocked to my soul at the prices of horses there, like $5k to 10 K but here they would be between $1K and $3k. I find it outrageous!!!
Yeah I’m from Texas and keep seeing auction horses in other states going for $10,000 give or take. They have not ridden the horse themselves and have no vet checks for soundness etc and are grade. It’s mind blowing and crazy.
It's worse than that. 1USD is about 40-50 cents AUD. So in Australian dollars those horses here that are 1-3k would be selling for more like 10-20k by that conversion.
@@Jsa460 Yep exactly right! Aussie $ is at .66 currently with conversion. I really cannot believe the prices there. Our last purebred arabian filly we purchased is straight egyptian and has great bloodlines. She is dark chestnut with a blonde mane and tail, is tall , has a great head neck, shoulder, topline and fabulous legs. So yes you can tell just looking at her that she is well bred. We own a straight egyptian black colt among all our mares and this filly is black bred. Now, she wasn’t exactly cheap by any means but compared to the $20,000-$30,000 people are paying over there for basic paddock stock, we probably would have paid $ 50,000-$60,000 easily for her in the States which is with conversion and the actual pricing differences. I find it so hard to get who is buying these horses as well.
@@nicsxnin6786 Yep! Maybe the bidder has an inside track on the horse's history, but it is a high-stakes gamble at a horse auction. Without papers, no horse is over 12 years old, and claims specifying pedigreed parentage are just that....claims. Another YT channel that I follow featured 2 horses bought at auctions, one was later euthanized due to advanced navicular disease, and the other was diagnosed with shivers and is unridabe. Factor the auction price of these horses (which was considerable) plus the thousands spent on veterinary care, specialists, and diagnostic procedures and I wonder.......why? Yet horse auctions are well attended by prospective buyers who continue to indulge in this high-stakes gamble.
FYI - Friesian/Arab crosses actually are a thing, and they are endorsed by the Friesian Horse Society. They are referred to as Turbo Friesians and are part of the Friesian Heritage Horse and Sporthorse International. Both parents must be registered as either purebred Arabian, Friesian, or Turbo and they have to meet fairly stringent conformation requirements. We see them a lot amongst the driving set. However, a Friesian/Arab cross with no paperwork is just a grade horse and will not be accepted for registry.
I'd imagine they'd be dual registible with the arabian society as a part bred as well if they have over a certain percentage arabian blood. I've never heard of a turbo friesian (what on earth is with that name :P ) but it sounds similar to what they were doing originally with anglo arabians.
I feel like maybe she’s just not been following what’s been going on with the Friesian crosses. Absolutely there are just unregistered ones that aren’t worth what people think, but if you look at a lot of the dressage and jumping world, there’s actually a lot of Friesian crosses that are doing really well in their respective disciplines. I have a friend that has one and is heavily involved in that world. She took close to a year to sell one of her babies because she insisted on the right show home for him and he’s now at a high level dressage barn in California and I would be shocked if we don’t see him doing some high level dressage in the coming years.
I've seen green Arab mares and stallions being sold for $1,500 all over California. They are purebred, but are often carriers of a bad gene so unsuitable for breeding. In fact, there is an oversupply of Arabs in general because everyone wants to breed them to a Friesan or Vanner. They never do genetic testing and the babies usually come out so sick they have to be put down. A third of all Arabs carry one or more genes for horrific diseases.They may be fairly healthy, but their offspring will be crippled or worse. Arabs got this way because Arab breeders have been totally irresponsible for the last 30 yrs.
First horse was a rescue 10 year old, was told he was a very big very feathered appaloosa. DNA testing from the vet verified he was indeed an appaloosa but was actually mostly a Gypsy Vanner. He was the sweetest guy though and so gentle and glad we got him away from being a car horse. He also enjoyed being bitless and bridleless and loved being with his friends before he passed.
I have a grade mare - paid $1300 - love her - I don't pretend she's something she's not - she's better trained than most of my friends horses with long bloodlines - your correct be proud of your grade breed!!!
My friend bought her first horse recently. The story behind it is that she goes to a barn for lessons, and she leased one of the horses there that was being boarded and used for lessons. She fell in love with him. He was super sweet. The owner originally wanted to sell him for 20,000. This 15hh 9 year old quarter horse for TWENTY THOUSAND. It was ridiculous. The barn owner managed to bring her to her senses. They bought him for around 6k.
You're right. One of the most disturbing things I ever heard was a stud/farm breeding horses for food. In France of course. To me, it was like watching a child being sent to be eaten by cannibals. I'll never forget Gordon Ramsay on the The F Word doing an interview with a breeder that was about to send a gorgeous 3 yo chestnut to slaughter, there was nothing wrong with it all... it was bred to be eaten.
@@SuicidalH Cows, pigs, and chickens are historically animals bred FOR food. For thousands of years. Whereas, horses have carried us into wars, pulled our vehicles, opened up the west ( in the case of the U.S. ), and - more recently, for many out here - carried us safely down the trail as purely a privately owned pleasure horse. One of the most special bonds between mankind and animal.... Those are the 'differences' most can see, understand, and agree with.
Thank you for still posting on here from time to time, I really enjoy every video you put out! Btw, I did a series of essays for my English class on horse abuse across the disciplines :)
Umm....there is a registry for half Arabian horses. It's called the International Arabian Horse Association. One parent must be purebred Arabian for their offspring to qualify.
Yep. The AHA (Arabian Horse Association) is the official registry for Arabians, Half-Arabians, and Anglo-Arabians today. Half-Arabs must have a registered purebred parent and must be DNA tested to register. The AHA is not a fake deceptive crossbreed registry. It's unfortunate the Fresian-Arab was used as an example. I agree with many of Raleigh's views but I feel $15k is not out of line if the mare vet checks and is appropriate for the new owner.
My dad went to Japan, he told me most of the horses they use for meat are well-fed, well taken care of, etc. so the meat actually tastes good and is high quality. Of course there are some places where the horses are treated terribly and have terrible food. (I’m an equestrian myself)
@@bellee15 I was mainly talking about the fact that horse's are overbred like a puppy mill and after no LONGER useful to the owner they shipped to japan for meat I watched a documentary on youtube about it taking place in Canada and the trauma of the flight there and how the horses get laminitis from the high protein diet
Final semester in my Animal Science degree I took my senior project class in Equine Mangement. We had the semester, and a million dollars to make a profitable horse business. We chose reining quarter horses, and my god. I had to "buy" the 10 horses we kept. 5 broodmares, 5 reining geldings. THE HORSE MARKET IS FLIPPING INSANE. Just quarter horses registered with the AQHA is one thing, finding ones with any sort of reining background or training with an even decent pedigree were always insanely priced. I saw multiple listings of foals from their byb inbred mares but sired by like Colonel's Smoking Gun so that obviously makes the foal worth $40k. Also, EVERY FRICKEN HORSE IN REINING IS SIRED BY COLONEL'S SMOKING GUN, your backyard ranch gelding isn't worth nearly as much as you think it is just because Gunner sired him. People be delusional, I can't imagine if I was an actual buyer.
You have validated what I’ve been thinking. I haven’t bought or sold any horses in years and I have been seeing crazy prices on TH-cam for auction horses. Grade, not vet checked, not a chance to ride them, some don’t have good confirmation and go for crazy prices.
Some people are complaining about the bad economy and high prices but honestly I feel like the economy is great everybody has money to BLOWWW 😅 hahah when I was in my showing days only about 10 years ago, nice local show Horses with papers we’re going for like $5000, now you can’t find a horse with papers UN STARTED for less than 5k!!!!
@@SagetheMutt note how the operative word in my comment was SHOULD be, no one 'should' have to pay that much for disability accomodation. I understand that they are sold for way more than that, I do not think that's right, only the most privelaged of the disabled have access to service dogs. Service dog trainers should be subsidized by the government so they can offer disabled people service animals in a price range that makes sense, service dog trainers deserve to be fairly compensated but the fact that service dogs are sold mostly by private entities with barely any support is a failure on the governments part. I am disabled and my care team think a service dog would be the perfect accomodation yet I will probably never be able to have one, unless I as a disabled person who can hardly take care of myself decide to owner train. sorry for bumbling in on your comment here but the dogs and the horses are both overpriced
@@rhi963 Unfortunately, getting the government involved would have exactly the opposite effect, I'm afraid. Every program I can think of has done so. Sadly the government runs on paperwork and bureaucracy, rules and regulations. Look at what happened to the price of college education once the fed "guaranteed" student loans--tuition skyrocketed. Now kids are saddled with many thousands of dollars of debt as soon as they graduate. If the student defaults, suddenly it becomes the taxpayer's problem. Anyway, I agree that it's a problem and that it would be great if something could be done, I'm just very leery of getting Uncle Sam involved. I would love to have a service dog myself.
Barrel racing has become bigger and bigger money. I’ve seen broodmares that can’t be ridden, but with great lines going for $15k. I saw an unborn foal sell for $25k. It’s absolutely bonkers, but with Ruby and Pink Buckle, there’s just such high prize money that there’s multiple horses I see making $100k in their first year.
Yeah, and most of them make no money at all. The Western Breeds Industry is that; “an Industry”. Horses are a “ commodity” & marketing the latest “ winning bloodline” is just that; a marketing tool. Same can be said for Warmblood “ Industry” too I think. How many of those well heeled ( mostly women) buyers truly think their expensive basically educated (Preliminary Level) Warmblood is going to take them or some hired, paid rider, to The Olympic Games? 😳
Thank u for this video!! I’ve been out of the horse world for 4 ish years. I’ve been jumping back into the horse world and I’m blown away at the prices! I finally after much searching found a grade foal for $800 and jumped to purchase him as he was a steal. My first horses in the past were like $800 each as mid teen amazing kid horses. Granted I was 12 and I’m now 37. But still. Sticker shock! lol I told my husband I’m buying this foal and he will live with us 30 years cause he’s worth gold to replace lol
My friend just bought a really nice horse, 10 year old registered Palomino Pinto Saddlebred, a rare color for the breed. The seller had an extensive video of it trail and arena riding, bareback, crossing streams, etc. He was at a reputable reining barn, and they allowed the buyer's daughter come and try the horse out on short notice. I'm still wondering where the holes are...I've met the horse and he's quite nice! Found on a Facebook sales page BTW.
Some breeds are heavily marketted as “exclusive breeds”, “romantic, baroque” etc. Friesians have long benefited from appearances in Hollywood Period Movies, ditto Arabians (The Black Stallion) & anything with lustrous locks or cuteness appeal like Gypsy Cobs will drag in more high $ buyers I suspect. Notwithstanding that each of these breeds have their own merits, abilities etc.
Hi! I'm a new fan, and I really appreciate your content! You're speaking out about the abuse not many people know about, and I look up to you a lot! I know you probably won't see this, but I live in the city, but I love horses. I've never been able to take up riding, but I'm so excited because I'm going to be able to get into equine therapy soon! I'm finally going to be able to reach my dreams of interacting and riding horses! Your videos teach me what to do and what not to do, and what to look out for, I learn new things every day from you! I appreciate you so much! Keep being awesome, Raleigh!
My parents were hoarding purebred Arabian (russian bloodline) back in the day. The currency was DM (Germany) which was worth roughly about half the amount of $ back then. Each mare was about 10-60k DM and none of them had any training at all whatsoever.
To prove your point: I got on the video, and went to some random horse buying website. And I saw a Missouri Fox Trotter. Like a goldish-paint going for 18,700.00! It was ridiculous..
My friend sold her grade barrel horse for $9500. (She is in Texas.) She looked at so many horses that were overpriced, were registered but had serious conformation problems, had big holes in their training or where no where near the height or age or experience advertised.
I'm sorry, but that sponsorship CAME for me. I'm living in Korea right now and am volunteering at a stable training horses a few hours from me. And seeing as I don't have a car and Korea has generally great public transportation... I travel 3 hours home on the subway in dirty, hairy, sweaty horse clothes. Even if I didn't have dirty patches all over me, people must notice and think "Is that foreigner okay?" 🤣
I can’t even buy a project horse for $1500 and when you find one they don’t even know the breed or it’s a fresh OTTB that they want $4000 for prices are INSANE right now
Come over here. Straight OTTBs with no training tend to go from free to good home to ~2k. They used to regularly go through the sale yards for less than $500 (often to a not great outcome. There's so many they sometimes have trouble giving them away.)
I think this problem has always been in existence: grade horses or horses with no overtly redeeming qualities can be sold for too much because buyers aren't doing their research. Now we're just seeing inflation increasing the prices. I used to consign gaited horses in the early 2000s, and I priced them based on experience and, yes, color. If I had two horses who have the exact same training and temperament, and one was sorrel and one was palomino, I could add an extra $1000 to the price for the palomino one. The most expensive horse I sold was $6000, and he was TOTALLY worth it. DEAD SAFE double-registered spotted trail horse that had done endurance. He retired and died in the home I sold him to. BUT, I never sold a horse to someone without being TOTALLY honest. I refused to sell a couple of horses that had medical issues that we discovered as I was working with the horse for the sale. It was a big deal to me to make sure the horses were in safe homes, and I only lost track of a couple of them. I have a friend who breeds Fell Ponies, and they are the Queen's lines, so high quality. I LOVE her horses. She is selling 2-year-olds with basic training (halters, stands for farrier) for around $30K. She said it's mostly rich people who got into horses during Covid, and they're continuing the hobby. I say if she can get the money for high quality horses like that, go for it. We recently bought a 4.5 yo, hitch-bred, registered Percheron gelding from our trainer. He was born with her--she bought the mare in foal. He is almost 18 hands and was already working on riding and driving (VERY slowly--no riding until he was 4, and only light riding) for a discounted price, but it was a little over $10K. We did get a good price for a registered gelding that is technically for show, but we'll use him for everything. He's a great match to our Friesian/Percheron cross mare who we bought for $4500 when she was 4 weeks old--she is 8 now. They're going to be a driving team. I currently have a mare I paid too much for for what she was, but she has turned out to be an incredible horse after a year of once-a-week training. She is grade, so I would price her at $9500 if I were to sell her. I just won't because I've put too much into her, she is my sweetie, and she is very sensitive, so I don't want her to end up in the wrong hands. TL;DR: Some horses definitely aren't worth the price. I would never pay in the 10s for a grade horse, even if it can fly. However, if someone can get away with more and they are being honest and have high quality horses, I say do it. For some people, horses are their business. They need to always be forthright about their training/breeding practices and quality, but when they are, the horses are worth it.
Fells are pretty much in the Endangered Breeds group now aren’t they. Same as Purebred Cleveland Bays. I suspect survived over recent decades only due to Royal patronage. Ordinary people not able to afford now, those UK breeds. Why don’t those who can afford a driving team, not drive Clevelands? I was shocked on a visit to Shetland Islands last year to hear that there are only about 1,000 traditional Shetland Ponied scattered through those islands now & very few breeders. 😟
This is very sad for the horses being sold. The sellers are scamming buyers who dream of having a perfect horse while they have no horse experience. Then when they realize they can't handle it and can't sell them for what they spent, they sell them at auction to kill buyers.
Your hair and eyelashes are on point today girlfriend. If I had to pay these prices I wouldn’t have any left for vet bills. And we all know there’s going to be big bills from these sellers.
just a few weeks ago I bought my AQH that was registered with really good training, hes trained in reining which he does rlly go in and might soon be showed in, trail riding and ranch work for only 7,000? that's insane horses have became this expensive and I'm thankful to have found my horse for only that cheap
My friend bought one, shipped from Denmark, not to include shipping cost to America and it ended up within a couple of years getting an upper intestinal blockage and died before the surgery could be done. I would never pay that for one, but hey you do you.
Most people investing that kind of money into an animal like that have insurance for live saving surgeries for things like that. If the horse still dies in the end you can still be paid out for the amount you had the animal insured for
We need to investigate. I want to know where these horses are going. I was completely unaware of this until I watched your videos lol😂 haven’t had a horse for years, but I love horses and this is crazy. We should investigate.!
I found the most amazing pony/horse shes 14.3hh can do everything exactly what I wanted super well behaved for 4,000 but according to my mum she was too expensive ??? That’s as good as your getting for a horse like that
The price of everything is up, hence why horses are. A square bale costed me $2-3 just 4 years ago. That same hay is now 8-10. Barrel horses are also going 30k + EASY. I sold a grade 3yr crossbred last year for 5 figures. Sold him in like 24 hours. Unbroke ex bronc for mid 4s, also sold in about 12 hours. They’re worth what people will pay for them🤷🏼♀️
Hi Raleigh! There’s a barn in Palatine, Illinois called Palatine Stables, that’s owned by the park district and set to shut down by the end of the summer. There’s been major protests in the community to keep it open, but I would LOVE to hear your point of view! Could you please make a video on this topic?? They have 60+ horses on 8.5 acres, with only a handful of turnout paddocks. This isn’t even the reason they’re planning on shutting down - it’s apparently due to renovation costs. No one seems to be commenting on the huge issue at hand (horses having no turnout) and everyone’s fighting to keep the barn running.
ALSO!!! On the Facebook horse sale pages, NOTHING is going for more money than barrel horses! If they have Dash for cash on their papers and they aren’t even started, that’s an instant $10,000 sale tag!!! Not even kidding! And the ones that are already running and showing are never below 20k
Why are horses in USA so expansive? In The Netherlands you can get a basic trained horse for 3000/5000 euro’s. And a purebred Friesian horse between a 1000 (non trained foal or yearling) to 20,000 or more (dressage training and the whole thing)
@@patelli3136I think maybe in Germany Breeders (particularly Warmbloods Breeders) have made a killing $ wise through “ exclusive marketing “ to wealthy American, German & other buyers in other parts if the world who all want the Prestige of owning a horse that is “son of”, “grandaughter of” etc of an “ Olympic Champion Whatever”. People who are owners, not riders, with deep pockets.
It is much more expensive for us to season our horses here. We also have to travel much further to get from show to show. You guys are luck to have lots of shows close and easily accessible for you which helps to keep the costs down for the investment being made into training these horses
I agree! We bought a beautiful "cow pony" from a trainer who was friends with my mom. She said she was from texas and we bought her for around 2500, and she was supposably broke (beautiful appoloosa). We got rid of her because no onee could ride her, sent her to five different trainers and no one could ride her- sold her for around what we got her for, and now a horse like that can be sould for at minimum 8000, just for looks! LOVE YOU RALEIGH!
I am looking for a horse myself at the moment, and the prices? Horrible. They charge over 15k for a sick, lame horse but OF COURSE it has an amazing blood line, looking like friesian arabian..
@@AngelsWellnessJourneys Someone offered me 10k when my horse was a yearling 😂 Okay, they mistook him for a different breed because he was at a breeder's facility but even after finding out that he in fact is a Welsh D-Paint Horse mix, they still wanted to pay 5k .-. He was a bit more than just halter broke though
@@NeonJJ_195The fact they mistook him to be a different breed simply because he was located at a particular breed’s Breeder’s property tells you sa lot about how much they didn’t know about what they were looking at, doesn’t it? 😄 I once worked on a friend’s property where he, his Studmistress & another worker on the farm operated their individual Stud breeding programs. 86 horses including 5 Saddlebred, 2 Peruvian, 1 Paso Fino, 1 ( highly trained/priced) Australian Stock Horse, Stallions , mares of same, a handful of Welsh & Arabian derivatives too. Outside mares screened carefully. The only Stallions some of those mare owners wanted to breed to were “The Black Stallions” (the two Peruvians, 1 ( imported) Saddlebred , & “ was the black Part Arabian a stallion”? Nope, it wasn’t… Those folks didn’t get to breed to anything! No comprehension of breed compatibility etc etc. Only purebred & a handful of carefully considered gaited breed crossbreds went out the gate, sold to suitable homes who knew what they were getting, at decent prices.
The reason the market is a LOT more expensive is because the cost to raise foals has gone up SO much. Even if you own your own property, the cost of grain, hay, vet, farrier... it's all crazy. People are trying to actually make money rather than take a loss, and that's leading to market inflation. Boarding barns are barely breaking even (usually what they make money off of is the lessons or training portion of the business) and so I think we'll see barns close as only the "elites" survive. There are a whole lot less riding schools now than when I started out.... but hey, riding was already the "sport of kings" so far be it from us normies to try and be a part of it.
True, the cost of breeding a nice foal & raising it up to riding/training age is high, which is why traditionally buying a weanling/yearling & buyer carrying the cost of raising/training has been cheaper way to go sourcing a horse of any particular breed; but some sellers are trying to get people to overpay for youngsters, often based on its “ bloodlines” (great, great Grandsire was XYZ) or “ its a pretty colour”. 🤦🏻♀️
Its so good your educating people about this. I think the people buying these houses have to be people not knowing about horses . Otherwise they wouldn't be being sold. It's obvious some of these horses are not ready to be bought. And if a parent is buying one of these horses for a young person not well knowledgeable in horses and the horse not as trained as said . Could end up getting them seriously hurt. This definitely isn't good. Thank you girl for informing people about this. Your truely are a horse person and very knowledgeable about them. Your a blessing to horse lovers everywhere. ❤
It was really eye opening when I looked for my first horse. So so many people ask 5,000+ for grade horses that only know the basics… (stand tied, can ride trails, etc). Some even 10,000 for a 3 year old that’s green broke. I found a 4 year old filly that was green broke and shes my absolute dream horse. I got her for 2,000 and even that was questionable given her experience. Regardless I don’t regret it - but JESUS it’s so hard to find horses for reasonable prices. 😭
Here in Australia due largely to drought, we’ve seen nice horses going to sales with very low or no Reserve Prices. Most recently Young adult Morgan x Stock-horse from quality breeder passed in at $500. Nog consigned by Breeder, but by a down the line buyer. Just above dog meat price. It’s cost thousands to breed/raise him. Morgan Community has rallied to buy him I think, as have done others in the past. 🥺
I’m also blown away when I watch ranch horse auctions-horses selling for 25-75 thousand dollars. Who rides a 60K horse on the ranch? And how are all these ranchers able to buy them, because the horses are selling at those prices. Guess it’s a good thing my riding days are over, as I could not have afforded a horse at today’s prices.
I’ve been asking myself for over 2 years now that question. It boggles my mind the mind, I’m in my 60s and always had horse or pony. I like your last statement is something darker going on.
And I cannot sell an awesome 14 yr. Friesian for $15k. My local sale barn is selling riding horses for about $3K to $5K. Most are older horses and all are very tall. As a senior, I do not want a tall horse.
I was recently looking for a second riding mount. It is crazy out there for prices. I'm an older gal, while I have extensive riding history, I no longer want to wrestle with a hot horse down the trail. I had to be patient and wait for the right horse in my price point and had to move fast when I found the one I wanted. I think many new owners are being taken to the cleaners by slick ads and inexperience. I think with the economy heading further south, we might be starting to see a drop in prices. A good, well trained horse will always command the money (Grade or registered)...but some of these others, yeah, overpriced
You're not crazy. Thank you for asking these questions. These people are price gouging because they can't afford to pay for proper care of the horses anymore. If they can't be sold this way they will probably end up in auction. Horse owners need to think about their budgets before purchasing a horse.
If you think $15000 for a barrel horse is insane (it is, but...) you aren't very familiar with high end barrel horse prices, they go for truly insane amounts, although I agree, why use such a shabby pic? That friesian arab cross is really a nice looking horse, maybe not for $15000 (but then I don't have $15000), and saying she is registered if she is, is correct, this would only be an issue if they said she was purebred when she isn't. As for grade, as long as that is listed I don't see the issue, grade just means unregistered, many grade horses are purebred, and many are not. I've owned horses whose parents were registered, but they were not, so they were 'grade quarter horse'. For those that are familiar enough with the breed in question and can visually tell a horse of that breed, as long as you say they are grade there is nothing wrong with calling them 'grade quarter horse' (or arabian, or whatever), being grade, if you don't know the parents, would imply that even though they appear to be mostly one breed that doesn't rule out that there could be something else in there. If you sell a horse you should tell the new owners what you know about them (as well as what you may believe, such as breed id without confirmation), and new owners should take anything that can't be proven with a grain of salt.
It really is redicultous, these ppl overprice the horses and hype them up too much in the add😭 I gto my first horse a few years ago, and the previous owner never mentioned a previous hip injury, so everyone rode her like normal, untill one day she started walking lame, and a few days after we found her laying on the floor not getting up, the owner of the farmbcalled my mom and told her about it and we got taken out of school early traveled to the farm for 30 minutes, only to spend 15 more minutes with her comforting her before the vet put her down😢 she was such a sweet girl😢
I just bought a 15.3hh chestnut ottb gelding who just turned 4 for about 7500, a great price in my opinion. He’s such a sweetheart and just wants to make everybody smile. Best part? His name is Freddy, thinking of changing it to Happy since he makes everyone happy when they see him. But I agree with this video, why people think they can sell their horses in such horrible conditions for outrageous prices is irresponsible and plain out disgusting. They should be found, stopped, and have the horses taken away from their care.
The friesian sport horse registry is what my personal horse is registered under- he was 10,000 and green, so definitely overpriced but he is most definitely worth that and more now- both his father and mother are registered in Friesian and Morgan registry’s- not all crossbred registry’s are bad. To be a registered FSH they have to be over 50 percent friesian as well
I’m from the uk and I bought my boy for £200 (he was neglected, riddled with worms and mites) he is a yearling colt (idk his actual age) to make 15hh however I found his breeders.. he isn’t going to make past 13hh so I’m keeping him to get him better basic training ect I wouldnt even sell him for £1000 people would think I’m crazy
The golden rule for buying a horse is that It's the horse before you that counts. Not it's breeding, not it's pedigree, not if it's "graded" or not, assuming graded is alternative English for "without papers". For another thing I would rather have a Friesian cross on any alternative registry or not even on a registry than a Friesian registered with the KFPS or FHANA. I would also pay over the odds for that horse in front of me if it wasn't on either of the latter two registries. When a breed is so critically inbred as the pedigree Friesian horse I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. Considering what gets premies and is gekeured, the sunken backs the insane head carriage and the breeding coefficients why would anyone be looking for papers for the breed. If you find a Friesian cross that fills your requirements consider yourself extremely lucky because you're not going to find one elsewhere. Of course in the world of horse dealing there are chancers in the world who will try their luck price wise, this has being going on since time immemorial, but a good horse is a good horse and the price unless you strike it extremely lucky will reflect that too. BTW that "Friesian" isn't half badly put together. Like it? Spend the money.
I found an add with what I hope is a lot of typo's. 15" great horse. 4 years old. Has been doing Prix St George since 2. $ 45,000.00 I'm not sure how they could ride him. 😅
My horse I adopted from a rescue/fostercare she prior to the rescue/fostercare wasent feed proper and then this lady adopted her from the state gained her weight up and trained her for westren pleasure and trail riding and know trail riding and starting barrel racing horse not to compete but for control and comfort of speed with the horse I got her originally for 5.000$ but got her for 2.000$ she is a paint quarter horse
How Is the first horse flashy I was always lead to believe a flashy horse means awesome colours and pattern, the first 'friesian' looks a bit out of proportion, the poor barrel horse looks like what my mom would call an old nag, seems like that saddle is hiding something,friesian mare does not look friesian enough to be called a friesian, and I think the last one gave me a heart attack!!!! Call me an ambulance lol. I must say I LOVE this channel you make me feel like I'm not crazy! So many ridiculous people out there who think too highly of their 'skills' and 'knowledge' if only the watched you and learned from you.
"At least take good photos of it!" I will NEVER UNDERSTAND the bad photos on sell sites. Like, you see this a lot on people selling fish tanks. They'll post a photo of their filthy tank with 2'' of black moldy water complete with LITERAL DEAD FISH FLOATING IN IT and ask for a price similar to what you'd get a brand new one at the store for.. like. you realize you can charge WAY MORE if the product looks decent, right?? If it comes with a filter I'll forgive the filter looking kind of dingy cause that tends to happen but the tank itself and its stand should be pristine lol
I wouldn't be surprised if they were all scammers. We see it a lot in dogs and cats too, just saw someone buy a mixed breed kitten for $350, the person who did the ad stole photos of a purebred Maine Coon and then the other one wasn't even a purebred Maine Coon that someone was rehoming for $50 💀I've seen a lot of puppies being sold for $2k and they have stolen photos, then when you go to purchase they want you to send the money through Western Union and as soon as you do the ad and the person disappears. It's funny though that they aren't even using photos of nice horses here or lying about them, but I still feel like asking that much money, they have to be a Western Union and run kind of person.
Prices are so unrealistic. I watched a video of a horse auction and the majority of horses going for $30-100k or MORE. Lots of mix breed, grade, or unbroke horses for 5 figures on Dreamhorse. Whos buying them???
Crossbred horses are just fine and can do the same jobs as a pure bred. Doesn't mean they should be priced the same. With a purebred, part of what you're paying for is the literal centuries of bloodline monitoring that went into the horse you're buying. I've never had a chance to own my own horse, and it's been almost a decade since I've ridden, but if I had the right place, I'd be looking for draft cross or a Morgan cross.
I had my horse for 30 yrs I had to put him down 4 yrs ago I've been pricing horses and there's no way I can afford to spend what there asking this video is so true crazy prices
I dunno if you look at Horse Plus Humane Society but they recently had and adopted out an Akal Tekke crossbreed- it's name is Black Beauty and it caused quite a stink when they said it looked like a Friesian. They meant no harm- just when they got him in intake he already had that air about him. But still even he, as a beautiful crossbreed, they simply adopted him out, not making people pay thousands. There are many horse rescues out there for people now. Adopt don't shop!
I mean I got my horse around 14 years ago as a friesian/percheron both registered sire/dam but still mixed. BUT I got him as a yearling for like $3k. Now he's around 4th-psg but even still, the draft part of him holds him back quite a bit being super shoulder dominant. I mean would I take it back? absolutely not he is my ride or die. Would I now (that I could afford) get a warmblood from a trusted proven dressage clinician, yes. I suppose its a know what you're getting yourself into, don't get suckered into insane prices, bring a trainer as a second unbiased opinion, and just know this is a lifelong decision not an impulsive one. Took him well over 5 years with intensive full-time training to get to where he is now, and we do clinics a few times a month with top level clinicians. Cant afford that sorta thing? Reconsider owning and think about leasing. Now want a trail horse? Go find a horse for $1k and under that has a PPE and you're golden, and all horses deserve good homes regardless. Depends on what you want, but I wouldnt write off crosses entirely If I could attach a picture I would lol
I love the personality, size and beauty of the Gypsy Vanner. However, i am not interested in the mites a lot of them have in the feathers and a few other things. I chose to breed for a cross. I chose to use a half registry to help them if i am ever unable to care for them properly. Same as proper training and care, iy sets them up for the best result if all of my other precautions fail and they need to be rehomed. I dont care about papers but i know others do, plus it helps establish age. Im just saying sometimes theres a good reason.
It’s pretty bonkers how the market is right now. I know years ago I’d see some grade, kid safe jumper ponies go for insane amounts because rich parents would happily spend $30k+ for a safe horse and registration didn’t matter. Now I’m seeing these very basic trail horses going for stupid numbers. Heck, I’m seeing tons of Appaloosa and Paint weanlings going for $10k+ just because of their color.
What’s crazy that I’ve seen is random people or like the Amish buying our completely finished, show ready reining horses that are aging out and flipping them for over 100k. They put zero effort into training them or getting them into show condition, just buy them from people in our industry, put a kid on them or teach them a few tricks then flip for insane amount of money. It’s driving the prices up for us normal people like crazy. Like Twombley and Cowgirls and Cadillacs.
You should make an ad selling one of your horses for an outrageous price and see what responses you get for a video, ‘who is buying these horses?’
that's actually illegal and can end with you getting sent to jail
@@aliprunnerhow is it illegal? as long as she doesn’t actually take any money it’s fine lol
@@aliprunner I don't think it can be illegal as long as she doesn't take any money, since I'm sure people put their horses up for sale and then change their minds all the time.
@@aliprunnerif it’s illegal. Then all of the people selling horses for the prices like those in the video would be criminals.
Maybe you stumbled onto an unknown traffic!ck!ng ring. There was one on Etsy a couple months ago where people were buying images of pizza for $14,000-$20,000. Immediate downloads promised. Guess the pizza was sinister material.
A friend bought an English Show Gelding for $50,000 - for her pre-teen daughter who'd never cantered a horse, let alone could handle an 18h big boy, but she can be-jewel him mane to tail like the best little Blue Ribbon Crafter! (Every photo shows the miserable guy expressing, "save me or just kill me now")
Poor horse 😔
Guy at my barn just bought a 6yr 18hh fresian stallion (to be gelded, expected to hit 18.3hh) with basic w/t dressage training for his 8yr old daughter who is still learning to post the trot. People with more money than sense...
@@anniemoultray3437omg. I hope that girl makes it through that still wanting to ride at all😢
@@anniemoultray3437What happened with buying older,calm, well trained ponies for kids so that they learn to ride... safely, closer to ground,on animal they can somewhat control...? Poor girl, I hope she doesn't become terrified or hurt after inadvertently falling off 18 hh horse. I'm 6 ft tall, leave 18hh+ horses for us ogres goddamnit 😂
@@anniemoultray3437What happened with buying older,calm, well trained ponies for kids so that they learn to ride... safely, closer to ground,on animal they can somewhat control...? Poor girl, I hope she doesn't become terrified or hurt after inadvertently falling off 18 hh horse. I'm 6 ft tall, leave 18hh+ horses for us ogres goddamnit 😂
I am an old lady horseman. The most I ever paid for a horse was $5k. He was an off the track Registered TB who also had a Great deal of training behind him. Lovely horse. Since passed. And that was …… 16 years ago I bought him
My friends thout that I was mad when I bought a 15 year old mare appendix registerd, sire a QH, dam a 'foundation mare, Reg TB - for $750 (in Australia) a few years ago and I can no longer ride. She was the perfect horse for me, quiet, REALLY bombproof. Nowadays she would easily fetch $5000 plus. Even if I could still ride I wouldn't be able to afford a horse like that.
@@lmp8932 - Good for You!!!! And a bombproof horse is worth MANY $$$$$. ❤️🤛
Hey there, me too. Both your description of yourself and the price you paid lol. Although mine was about 33yrs ago, and he was one of Turf Ruler's last offspring. He was a stunning racehorse, but he was known to be a bit nutty and highly strung, which he passed on to my gorgeous boy. I absolutely adored that horse 😊
Raleigh. He didnt think you smelled bad. He obviously has been around horses. Which to me is the best smell ever. I love the smell of horse and leather. Am I wierd? Lol😮
Better than if he had asked if she had fish 😂
@@thomaskennedy2942 Lol.
@@barbrice721 I didn't know how that would go since this is mostly a female audience. But on a real note, I instantly thought how creepy that guy was more than just that Raleigh smelled bad...
Stay clear of that dude.
I love the smell of horses, too 💕🐎
Love that smell
As well
I feel even more blessed after watching this video. I got my unicorn for $2,500 when he was 19. His family retired him after he was a ranch horse for 17 years and just wanted a nice life for him. OMG he is the total package! AQHA, no vices, sound, athletic enough for any discipline except upper level dressage. He just turned 24 and we continue to have amazing adventures ❤
Friesian crosses are the doodles of the horse world and you can’t convince me otherwise. Backyard breeders will breed anything with a poodle for a paycheck because they’re popular, and backyard horse breeders will do the same thing with Friesians.
Barock Pinto.. There's nothing wrong with those.
Omg. This is so accurate. You hit the nail on the head
nailed it!!!
And if it's all black....HALF FRIESIAN!!😂
But, that said, I have a Friesian percheron mare who is fabulous! ❤
Best looking Friesian I’ve seen. (Sarcasm before people reply)
That poor horse looks like 3 different horses glued together, I'd swear it's photoshopped as a joke if these sellers weren't so bonkers.
@TerraBranford873 it's not? 😨
@@Darkmoon331 One can only hope it is for the sake of humanity
Well as a person actually living in Friesland (Friesia) and having experience with working with Friesians and Arabians on a studfarm... The Arabo-Friesian is an actual breed with studbook and all. I think an Arab Friesian outside of the Netherlands will be quite expensive.
GIRL!!!! Im so with you on this.
I live in Australia and compared to the States our prices are so good.
Ive seen the ridiculous prices that even horses there at horse sale markets are being sold for.
Im absolutely shocked to my soul at the prices of horses there, like $5k to 10 K but here they would be between $1K and $3k. I find it outrageous!!!
Yeah I’m from Texas and keep seeing auction horses in other states going for $10,000 give or take. They have not ridden the horse themselves and have no vet checks for soundness etc and are grade. It’s mind blowing and crazy.
It's worse than that. 1USD is about 40-50 cents AUD. So in Australian dollars those horses here that are 1-3k would be selling for more like 10-20k by that conversion.
@@Jsa460 Yep exactly right! Aussie $ is at .66 currently with conversion.
I really cannot believe the prices there. Our last purebred arabian filly we purchased is straight egyptian and has great bloodlines.
She is dark chestnut with a blonde mane and tail, is tall , has a great head neck, shoulder, topline and fabulous legs. So yes you can tell just looking at her that she is well bred. We own a straight egyptian black colt among all our mares and this filly is black bred. Now, she wasn’t exactly cheap by any means but compared to the $20,000-$30,000 people are paying over there for basic paddock stock, we probably would have paid $ 50,000-$60,000 easily for her in the States which is with conversion and the actual pricing differences.
I find it so hard to get who is buying these horses as well.
@@nicsxnin6786 Yep! Maybe the bidder has an inside track on the horse's history, but it is a high-stakes gamble at a horse auction. Without papers, no horse is over 12 years old, and claims specifying pedigreed parentage are just that....claims. Another YT channel that I follow featured 2 horses bought at auctions, one was later euthanized due to advanced navicular disease, and the other was diagnosed with shivers and is unridabe. Factor the auction price of these horses (which was considerable) plus the thousands spent on veterinary care, specialists, and diagnostic procedures and I wonder.......why? Yet horse auctions are well attended by prospective buyers who continue to indulge in this high-stakes gamble.
Also, I've heard that tack here in USA is so much more expensive than in places like European countries 😮
FYI - Friesian/Arab crosses actually are a thing, and they are endorsed by the Friesian Horse Society. They are referred to as Turbo Friesians and are part of the Friesian Heritage Horse and Sporthorse International. Both parents must be registered as either purebred Arabian, Friesian, or Turbo and they have to meet fairly stringent conformation requirements. We see them a lot amongst the driving set. However, a Friesian/Arab cross with no paperwork is just a grade horse and will not be accepted for registry.
I'd imagine they'd be dual registible with the arabian society as a part bred as well if they have over a certain percentage arabian blood. I've never heard of a turbo friesian (what on earth is with that name :P ) but it sounds similar to what they were doing originally with anglo arabians.
I feel like maybe she’s just not been following what’s been going on with the Friesian crosses. Absolutely there are just unregistered ones that aren’t worth what people think, but if you look at a lot of the dressage and jumping world, there’s actually a lot of Friesian crosses that are doing really well in their respective disciplines. I have a friend that has one and is heavily involved in that world. She took close to a year to sell one of her babies because she insisted on the right show home for him and he’s now at a high level dressage barn in California and I would be shocked if we don’t see him doing some high level dressage in the coming years.
There's also the Georgiana grande which is a Friesian saddlebred cross
I've seen green Arab mares and stallions being sold for $1,500 all over California. They are purebred, but are often carriers of a bad gene so unsuitable for breeding. In fact, there is an oversupply of Arabs in general because everyone wants to breed them to a Friesan or Vanner. They never do genetic testing and the babies usually come out so sick they have to be put down. A third of all Arabs carry one or more genes for horrific diseases.They may be fairly healthy, but their offspring will be crippled or worse. Arabs got this way because Arab breeders have been totally irresponsible for the last 30 yrs.
Frarab? 😂
Prices on line do NOT mean they are actually being sold for that $ - regardless of what the poster says.
so how can you tell the real price?
I don’t have horses, probably never will, but I see one of your videos pop up and I’m like ohhhhh time for horse tea 😂
Same here! 😂I live for animal world drama!
First horse was a rescue 10 year old, was told he was a very big very feathered appaloosa. DNA testing from the vet verified he was indeed an appaloosa but was actually mostly a Gypsy Vanner. He was the sweetest guy though and so gentle and glad we got him away from being a car horse. He also enjoyed being bitless and bridleless and loved being with his friends before he passed.
I have a grade mare - paid $1300 - love her - I don't pretend she's something she's not - she's better trained than most of my friends horses with long bloodlines - your correct be proud of your grade breed!!!
Ride the horse, not the breeding
My friend bought her first horse recently. The story behind it is that she goes to a barn for lessons, and she leased one of the horses there that was being boarded and used for lessons. She fell in love with him. He was super sweet. The owner originally wanted to sell him for 20,000. This 15hh 9 year old quarter horse for TWENTY THOUSAND. It was ridiculous. The barn owner managed to bring her to her senses. They bought him for around 6k.
Leasing to buy is generally a smart thing to do though. She actually knew what she was getting, it was just the price that was crazy
Glad your still posting.❤
Arabo-Friesians are actually official breed under friesinas in netherland, where the friesian origins...
You're right. One of the most disturbing things I ever heard was a stud/farm breeding horses for food. In France of course. To me, it was like watching a child being sent to be eaten by cannibals. I'll never forget Gordon Ramsay on the The F Word doing an interview with a breeder that was about to send a gorgeous 3 yo chestnut to slaughter, there was nothing wrong with it all... it was bred to be eaten.
There are masses of mill breeders in USA too in fact many all over. Too many are being bred everywhere
I mean if you eat meat you should probably shut tf up
So? Are you going to justify killing healthy young cows, pigs and chicken, but when it's a horse that's suddenly immoral?
@@SuicidalH Cows, pigs, and chickens are historically animals bred FOR food. For thousands of years. Whereas, horses have carried us into wars, pulled our vehicles, opened up the west ( in the case of the U.S. ), and - more recently, for many out here - carried us safely down the trail as purely a privately owned pleasure horse. One of the most special bonds between mankind and animal.... Those are the 'differences' most can see,
understand, and agree with.
@@voiceofreason7856not vagen but this is straight up delusional
Thank you for still posting on here from time to time, I really enjoy every video you put out!
Btw, I did a series of essays for my English class on horse abuse across the disciplines :)
1 min lol
I do not feel comfortable standing in lines. I'll come back later, when being first isn't so important.
Being first is never important unless you're the sperm visiting a nice egg 😂
this is a comment section, get over yourself lmao
What?
@@Eeee-xl4xb you can't possibly think it's possible I am seriously serious
Lol
Umm....there is a registry for half Arabian horses. It's called the International Arabian Horse Association. One parent must be purebred Arabian for their offspring to qualify.
Yep. The AHA (Arabian Horse Association) is the official registry for Arabians, Half-Arabians, and Anglo-Arabians today. Half-Arabs must have a registered purebred parent and must be DNA tested to register. The AHA is not a fake deceptive crossbreed registry. It's unfortunate the Fresian-Arab was used as an example. I agree with many of Raleigh's views but I feel $15k is not out of line if the mare vet checks and is appropriate for the new owner.
Can you do a video about Japan's horse meat Industry?
My dad went to Japan, he told me most of the horses they use for meat are well-fed, well taken care of, etc. so the meat actually tastes good and is high quality. Of course there are some places where the horses are treated terribly and have terrible food. (I’m an equestrian myself)
@@bellee15 I was mainly talking about the fact that horse's are overbred like a puppy mill and after no LONGER useful to the owner they shipped to japan for meat I watched a documentary on youtube about it taking place in Canada and the trauma of the flight there and how the horses get laminitis from the high protein diet
Maybe it's like koi fish that are worth a fortune being eaten by royalty or the rich.
Horse meat butcher shops abound in Paris as well.
@@JeannetteShorelandEating horses is disgusting.
Final semester in my Animal Science degree I took my senior project class in Equine Mangement. We had the semester, and a million dollars to make a profitable horse business. We chose reining quarter horses, and my god. I had to "buy" the 10 horses we kept. 5 broodmares, 5 reining geldings. THE HORSE MARKET IS FLIPPING INSANE. Just quarter horses registered with the AQHA is one thing, finding ones with any sort of reining background or training with an even decent pedigree were always insanely priced. I saw multiple listings of foals from their byb inbred mares but sired by like Colonel's Smoking Gun so that obviously makes the foal worth $40k. Also, EVERY FRICKEN HORSE IN REINING IS SIRED BY COLONEL'S SMOKING GUN, your backyard ranch gelding isn't worth nearly as much as you think it is just because Gunner sired him. People be delusional, I can't imagine if I was an actual buyer.
You have validated what I’ve been thinking. I haven’t bought or sold any horses in years and I have been seeing crazy prices on TH-cam for auction horses. Grade, not vet checked, not a chance to ride them, some don’t have good confirmation and go for crazy prices.
Some people are complaining about the bad economy and high prices but honestly I feel like the economy is great everybody has money to BLOWWW 😅 hahah when I was in my showing days only about 10 years ago, nice local show Horses with papers we’re going for like $5000, now you can’t find a horse with papers UN STARTED for less than 5k!!!!
Dang 30-60k that’s as much as a fully trained service dog 😭
thats like 2x what a fully trained service dog should be bahaha
@@rhi963 nope actually they range anywhere from 10k-80k I believe.
@@SagetheMutt note how the operative word in my comment was SHOULD be, no one 'should' have to pay that much for disability accomodation. I understand that they are sold for way more than that, I do not think that's right, only the most privelaged of the disabled have access to service dogs. Service dog trainers should be subsidized by the government so they can offer disabled people service animals in a price range that makes sense, service dog trainers deserve to be fairly compensated but the fact that service dogs are sold mostly by private entities with barely any support is a failure on the governments part. I am disabled and my care team think a service dog would be the perfect accomodation yet I will probably never be able to have one, unless I as a disabled person who can hardly take care of myself decide to owner train. sorry for bumbling in on your comment here but the dogs and the horses are both overpriced
@@rhi963 I’m very sorry I did not read see that. And yes I think they are way too expensive too.
@@rhi963 Unfortunately, getting the government involved would have exactly the opposite effect, I'm afraid. Every program I can think of has done so. Sadly the government runs on paperwork and bureaucracy, rules and regulations. Look at what happened to the price of college education once the fed "guaranteed" student loans--tuition skyrocketed. Now kids are saddled with many thousands of dollars of debt as soon as they graduate. If the student defaults, suddenly it becomes the taxpayer's problem. Anyway, I agree that it's a problem and that it would be great if something could be done, I'm just very leery of getting Uncle Sam involved. I would love to have a service dog myself.
Barrel racing has become bigger and bigger money. I’ve seen broodmares that can’t be ridden, but with great lines going for $15k. I saw an unborn foal sell for $25k. It’s absolutely bonkers, but with Ruby and Pink Buckle, there’s just such high prize money that there’s multiple horses I see making $100k in their first year.
Yeah, and most of them make no money at all. The Western Breeds Industry is that; “an Industry”. Horses are a “ commodity” & marketing the latest “ winning bloodline” is just that; a marketing tool.
Same can be said for Warmblood “ Industry” too I think. How many of those well heeled ( mostly women) buyers truly think their expensive basically educated (Preliminary Level) Warmblood is going to take them or some hired, paid rider, to The Olympic Games? 😳
Omg the bangs look so good!!! :O
Thank u for this video!! I’ve been out of the horse world for 4 ish years. I’ve been jumping back into the horse world and I’m blown away at the prices! I finally after much searching found a grade foal for $800 and jumped to purchase him as he was a steal. My first horses in the past were like $800 each as mid teen amazing kid horses. Granted I was 12 and I’m now 37. But still. Sticker shock! lol I told my husband I’m buying this foal and he will live with us 30 years cause he’s worth gold to replace lol
@@RazzleEqAs you said: her owner is only “ in it for the money”.
My friend just bought a really nice horse, 10 year old registered Palomino Pinto Saddlebred, a rare color for the breed. The seller had an extensive video of it trail and arena riding, bareback, crossing streams, etc. He was at a reputable reining barn, and they allowed the buyer's daughter come and try the horse out on short notice. I'm still wondering where the holes are...I've met the horse and he's quite nice! Found on a Facebook sales page BTW.
Some breeds are heavily marketted as “exclusive breeds”, “romantic, baroque” etc. Friesians have long benefited from appearances in Hollywood Period Movies, ditto Arabians (The Black Stallion) & anything with lustrous locks or cuteness appeal like Gypsy Cobs will drag in more high $ buyers I suspect. Notwithstanding that each of these breeds have their own merits, abilities etc.
Hi! I'm a new fan, and I really appreciate your content! You're speaking out about the abuse not many people know about, and I look up to you a lot! I know you probably won't see this, but I live in the city, but I love horses. I've never been able to take up riding, but I'm so excited because I'm going to be able to get into equine therapy soon! I'm finally going to be able to reach my dreams of interacting and riding horses! Your videos teach me what to do and what not to do, and what to look out for, I learn new things every day from you! I appreciate you so much! Keep being awesome, Raleigh!
My parents were hoarding purebred Arabian (russian bloodline) back in the day. The currency was DM (Germany) which was worth roughly about half the amount of $ back then. Each mare was about 10-60k DM and none of them had any training at all whatsoever.
To prove your point: I got on the video, and went to some random horse buying website. And I saw a Missouri Fox Trotter. Like a goldish-paint going for 18,700.00! It was ridiculous..
Totally off Topics but I’m loving the Bangs it’s giving WEALTH!
My friend sold her grade barrel horse for $9500. (She is in Texas.) She looked at so many horses that were overpriced, were registered but had serious conformation problems, had big holes in their training or where no where near the height or age or experience advertised.
I'm sorry, but that sponsorship CAME for me. I'm living in Korea right now and am volunteering at a stable training horses a few hours from me. And seeing as I don't have a car and Korea has generally great public transportation... I travel 3 hours home on the subway in dirty, hairy, sweaty horse clothes. Even if I didn't have dirty patches all over me, people must notice and think "Is that foreigner okay?" 🤣
I can’t even buy a project horse for $1500 and when you find one they don’t even know the breed or it’s a fresh OTTB that they want $4000 for prices are INSANE right now
Come over here. Straight OTTBs with no training tend to go from free to good home to ~2k. They used to regularly go through the sale yards for less than $500 (often to a not great outcome. There's so many they sometimes have trouble giving them away.)
The prices online make me believe no one could never afford to buy a horse.
I love that you're in Washington now because i literally know almost all the people selling the horses in these videos
I think this problem has always been in existence: grade horses or horses with no overtly redeeming qualities can be sold for too much because buyers aren't doing their research. Now we're just seeing inflation increasing the prices.
I used to consign gaited horses in the early 2000s, and I priced them based on experience and, yes, color. If I had two horses who have the exact same training and temperament, and one was sorrel and one was palomino, I could add an extra $1000 to the price for the palomino one. The most expensive horse I sold was $6000, and he was TOTALLY worth it. DEAD SAFE double-registered spotted trail horse that had done endurance. He retired and died in the home I sold him to. BUT, I never sold a horse to someone without being TOTALLY honest. I refused to sell a couple of horses that had medical issues that we discovered as I was working with the horse for the sale. It was a big deal to me to make sure the horses were in safe homes, and I only lost track of a couple of them.
I have a friend who breeds Fell Ponies, and they are the Queen's lines, so high quality. I LOVE her horses. She is selling 2-year-olds with basic training (halters, stands for farrier) for around $30K. She said it's mostly rich people who got into horses during Covid, and they're continuing the hobby. I say if she can get the money for high quality horses like that, go for it.
We recently bought a 4.5 yo, hitch-bred, registered Percheron gelding from our trainer. He was born with her--she bought the mare in foal. He is almost 18 hands and was already working on riding and driving (VERY slowly--no riding until he was 4, and only light riding) for a discounted price, but it was a little over $10K. We did get a good price for a registered gelding that is technically for show, but we'll use him for everything. He's a great match to our Friesian/Percheron cross mare who we bought for $4500 when she was 4 weeks old--she is 8 now. They're going to be a driving team.
I currently have a mare I paid too much for for what she was, but she has turned out to be an incredible horse after a year of once-a-week training. She is grade, so I would price her at $9500 if I were to sell her. I just won't because I've put too much into her, she is my sweetie, and she is very sensitive, so I don't want her to end up in the wrong hands.
TL;DR: Some horses definitely aren't worth the price. I would never pay in the 10s for a grade horse, even if it can fly. However, if someone can get away with more and they are being honest and have high quality horses, I say do it. For some people, horses are their business. They need to always be forthright about their training/breeding practices and quality, but when they are, the horses are worth it.
Fells are pretty much in the Endangered Breeds group now aren’t they. Same as Purebred Cleveland Bays. I suspect survived over recent decades only due to Royal patronage. Ordinary people not able to afford now, those UK breeds.
Why don’t those who can afford a driving team, not drive Clevelands?
I was shocked on a visit to Shetland Islands last year to hear that there are only about 1,000 traditional Shetland Ponied scattered through those islands now & very few breeders. 😟
This is very sad for the horses being sold. The sellers are scamming buyers who dream of having a perfect horse while they have no horse experience. Then when they realize they can't handle it and can't sell them for what they spent, they sell them at auction to kill buyers.
Your hair and eyelashes are on point today girlfriend. If I had to pay these prices I wouldn’t have any left for vet bills. And we all know there’s going to be big bills from these sellers.
just a few weeks ago I bought my AQH that was registered with really good training, hes trained in reining which he does rlly go in and might soon be showed in, trail riding and ranch work for only 7,000? that's insane horses have became this expensive and I'm thankful to have found my horse for only that cheap
My friend bought one, shipped from Denmark, not to include shipping cost to America and it ended up within a couple of years getting an upper intestinal blockage and died before the surgery could be done. I would never pay that for one, but hey you do you.
Most people investing that kind of money into an animal like that have insurance for live saving surgeries for things like that. If the horse still dies in the end you can still be paid out for the amount you had the animal insured for
We need to investigate. I want to know where these horses are going. I was completely unaware of this until I watched your videos lol😂 haven’t had a horse for years, but I love horses and this is crazy. We should investigate.!
"Who's buying these horses?!?"
HARLOWS MOM!!!
I found the most amazing pony/horse shes 14.3hh can do everything exactly what I wanted super well behaved for 4,000 but according to my mum she was too expensive ??? That’s as good as your getting for a horse like that
The price of everything is up, hence why horses are. A square bale costed me $2-3 just 4 years ago. That same hay is now 8-10. Barrel horses are also going 30k + EASY. I sold a grade 3yr crossbred last year for 5 figures. Sold him in like 24 hours. Unbroke ex bronc for mid 4s, also sold in about 12 hours. They’re worth what people will pay for them🤷🏼♀️
Hi Raleigh! There’s a barn in Palatine, Illinois called Palatine Stables, that’s owned by the park district and set to shut down by the end of the summer. There’s been major protests in the community to keep it open, but I would LOVE to hear your point of view! Could you please make a video on this topic?? They have 60+ horses on 8.5 acres, with only a handful of turnout paddocks. This isn’t even the reason they’re planning on shutting down - it’s apparently due to renovation costs. No one seems to be commenting on the huge issue at hand (horses having no turnout) and everyone’s fighting to keep the barn running.
ALSO!!! On the Facebook horse sale pages, NOTHING is going for more money than barrel horses! If they have Dash for cash on their papers and they aren’t even started, that’s an instant $10,000 sale tag!!! Not even kidding! And the ones that are already running and showing are never below 20k
Why are horses in USA so expansive? In The Netherlands you can get a basic trained horse for 3000/5000 euro’s. And a purebred Friesian horse between a 1000 (non trained foal or yearling) to 20,000 or more (dressage training and the whole thing)
Hey from germany. I didn't know horses are that unexpensive in the netherlands. In germany they are war more expensive.
@@patelli3136I think maybe in Germany Breeders (particularly Warmbloods Breeders) have made a killing $ wise through “ exclusive marketing “ to wealthy American, German & other buyers in other parts if the world who all want the Prestige of owning a horse that is “son of”, “grandaughter of” etc of an “ Olympic Champion Whatever”. People who are owners, not riders, with deep pockets.
It is much more expensive for us to season our horses here. We also have to travel much further to get from show to show.
You guys are luck to have lots of shows close and easily accessible for you which helps to keep the costs down for the investment being made into training these horses
I loved your Lume recommendation and still use it. I'm trying Wild right now.
Raleigh I totally agree with you with the question on where are these horses going/ending up, and I think it’s really dark…
I agree! We bought a beautiful "cow pony" from a trainer who was friends with my mom. She said she was from texas and we bought her for around 2500, and she was supposably broke (beautiful appoloosa). We got rid of her because no onee could ride her, sent her to five different trainers and no one could ride her- sold her for around what we got her for, and now a horse like that can be sould for at minimum 8000, just for looks! LOVE YOU RALEIGH!
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It all started in 2020 when I was seeing Green grade pretty horses selling for $8000! Insane!
I am looking for a horse myself at the moment, and the prices? Horrible. They charge over 15k for a sick, lame horse but OF COURSE it has an amazing blood line, looking like friesian arabian..
Me too!! And cannot believe the prices I'm seeing; who in the heck would pay 20k for a yearling barely halter broke? No papers, no nothing!
@@AngelsWellnessJourneyswhat about 50k for an unhandled grade five year old gelding or 65k for a barely halter broke grade 3 year old mare
@@AngelsWellnessJourneys Someone offered me 10k when my horse was a yearling 😂 Okay, they mistook him for a different breed because he was at a breeder's facility but even after finding out that he in fact is a Welsh D-Paint Horse mix, they still wanted to pay 5k .-. He was a bit more than just halter broke though
@@NeonJJ_195The fact they mistook him to be a different breed simply because he was located at a particular breed’s Breeder’s property tells you sa lot about how much they didn’t know about what they were looking at, doesn’t it? 😄
I once worked on a friend’s property where he, his Studmistress & another worker on the farm operated their individual Stud breeding programs. 86 horses including 5 Saddlebred, 2 Peruvian, 1 Paso Fino, 1 ( highly trained/priced) Australian Stock Horse, Stallions , mares of same, a handful of Welsh & Arabian derivatives too.
Outside mares screened carefully. The only Stallions some of those mare owners wanted to breed to were “The Black Stallions”
(the two Peruvians, 1 ( imported) Saddlebred , & “ was the black Part Arabian a stallion”? Nope, it wasn’t…
Those folks didn’t get to breed to anything! No comprehension of breed compatibility etc etc.
Only purebred & a handful of carefully considered gaited breed crossbreds went out the gate, sold to suitable homes who knew what they were getting, at decent prices.
@@NeonJJ_195Oh.. they thought your horse was a Gypsy Cob? 😃 Nothing wrong with Welsh D X Paint . 😊
I love your bangs. Oh my gosh they’re amazing. Bangs usually don’t look good on a lot of people like on you. It’s beautiful.
She looks great.
I'm 50/50 it looks good but also not at the same time, but shes pretty no matter what tho
@@ivy-loprioretoo thin maybe
@@Yeehaw0588 yeah if they were thick or even curtain bangs it would look 🔥 lol
You should make selling ads from germany! Its literally crazy - most of the decent horses cost above 15k
The reason the market is a LOT more expensive is because the cost to raise foals has gone up SO much. Even if you own your own property, the cost of grain, hay, vet, farrier... it's all crazy. People are trying to actually make money rather than take a loss, and that's leading to market inflation. Boarding barns are barely breaking even (usually what they make money off of is the lessons or training portion of the business) and so I think we'll see barns close as only the "elites" survive. There are a whole lot less riding schools now than when I started out.... but hey, riding was already the "sport of kings" so far be it from us normies to try and be a part of it.
True, the cost of breeding a nice foal & raising it up to riding/training age is high, which is why traditionally buying a weanling/yearling & buyer carrying the cost of raising/training has been cheaper way to go sourcing a horse of any particular breed; but some sellers are trying to get people to overpay for youngsters, often based on its “ bloodlines” (great, great Grandsire was XYZ) or “ its a pretty colour”. 🤦🏻♀️
Its so good your educating people about this. I think the people buying these houses have to be people not knowing about horses . Otherwise they wouldn't be being sold. It's obvious some of these horses are not ready to be bought. And if a parent is buying one of these horses for a young person not well knowledgeable in horses and the horse not as trained as said . Could end up getting them seriously hurt. This definitely isn't good. Thank you girl for informing people about this. Your truely are a horse person and very knowledgeable about them. Your a blessing to horse lovers everywhere. ❤
It was really eye opening when I looked for my first horse. So so many people ask 5,000+ for grade horses that only know the basics… (stand tied, can ride trails, etc). Some even 10,000 for a 3 year old that’s green broke. I found a 4 year old filly that was green broke and shes my absolute dream horse. I got her for 2,000 and even that was questionable given her experience. Regardless I don’t regret it - but JESUS it’s so hard to find horses for reasonable prices. 😭
Here in Australia due largely to drought, we’ve seen nice horses going to sales with very low or no Reserve Prices.
Most recently Young adult Morgan x Stock-horse from quality breeder passed in at $500. Nog consigned by Breeder, but by a down the line buyer. Just above dog meat price. It’s cost thousands to breed/raise him. Morgan Community has rallied to buy him I think, as have done others in the past. 🥺
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This pisses me off. That horse is so raggedy and not cared for, it’s horrifying. Poor baby
I’m also blown away when I watch ranch horse auctions-horses selling for 25-75 thousand dollars. Who rides a 60K horse on the ranch? And how are all these ranchers able to buy them, because the horses are selling at those prices. Guess it’s a good thing my riding days are over, as I could not have afforded a horse at today’s prices.
I’ve been asking myself for over 2 years now that question. It boggles my mind the mind, I’m in my 60s and always had horse or pony.
I like your last statement is something darker going on.
And I cannot sell an awesome 14 yr. Friesian for $15k. My local sale barn is selling riding horses for about $3K to $5K. Most are older horses and all are very tall. As a senior, I do not want a tall horse.
I was recently looking for a second riding mount. It is crazy out there for prices. I'm an older gal, while I have extensive riding history, I no longer want to wrestle with a hot horse down the trail. I had to be patient and wait for the right horse in my price point and had to move fast when I found the one I wanted.
I think many new owners are being taken to the cleaners by slick ads and inexperience. I think with the economy heading further south, we might be starting to see a drop in prices. A good, well trained horse will always command the money (Grade or registered)...but some of these others, yeah, overpriced
You're not crazy. Thank you for asking these questions. These people are price gouging because they can't afford to pay for proper care of the horses anymore. If they can't be sold this way they will probably end up in auction. Horse owners need to think about their budgets before purchasing a horse.
If you think $15000 for a barrel horse is insane (it is, but...) you aren't very familiar with high end barrel horse prices, they go for truly insane amounts, although I agree, why use such a shabby pic? That friesian arab cross is really a nice looking horse, maybe not for $15000 (but then I don't have $15000), and saying she is registered if she is, is correct, this would only be an issue if they said she was purebred when she isn't. As for grade, as long as that is listed I don't see the issue, grade just means unregistered, many grade horses are purebred, and many are not. I've owned horses whose parents were registered, but they were not, so they were 'grade quarter horse'. For those that are familiar enough with the breed in question and can visually tell a horse of that breed, as long as you say they are grade there is nothing wrong with calling them 'grade quarter horse' (or arabian, or whatever), being grade, if you don't know the parents, would imply that even though they appear to be mostly one breed that doesn't rule out that there could be something else in there. If you sell a horse you should tell the new owners what you know about them (as well as what you may believe, such as breed id without confirmation), and new owners should take anything that can't be proven with a grain of salt.
It really is redicultous, these ppl overprice the horses and hype them up too much in the add😭
I gto my first horse a few years ago, and the previous owner never mentioned a previous hip injury, so everyone rode her like normal, untill one day she started walking lame, and a few days after we found her laying on the floor not getting up, the owner of the farmbcalled my mom and told her about it and we got taken out of school early traveled to the farm for 30 minutes, only to spend 15 more minutes with her comforting her before the vet put her down😢 she was such a sweet girl😢
What’s hilarious is too many people will argue that just producing a grade foal costs $3-$5,000. So that’s how they justify these prices.
I just bought a 15.3hh chestnut ottb gelding who just turned 4 for about 7500, a great price in my opinion. He’s such a sweetheart and just wants to make everybody smile. Best part? His name is Freddy, thinking of changing it to Happy since he makes everyone happy when they see him. But I agree with this video, why people think they can sell their horses in such horrible conditions for outrageous prices is irresponsible and plain out disgusting. They should be found, stopped, and have the horses taken away from their care.
The friesian sport horse registry is what my personal horse is registered under- he was 10,000 and green, so definitely overpriced but he is most definitely worth that and more now- both his father and mother are registered in Friesian and Morgan registry’s- not all crossbred registry’s are bad. To be a registered FSH they have to be over 50 percent friesian as well
It’s the same here in Europe! Horse prices have gone crazyyyyy
My first horse was an OTT thoroughbred and I was given him for free. My other 2 horses that came after him were both rescues.
I’m from the uk and I bought my boy for £200 (he was neglected, riddled with worms and mites) he is a yearling colt (idk his actual age) to make 15hh however I found his breeders.. he isn’t going to make past 13hh so I’m keeping him to get him better basic training ect I wouldnt even sell him for £1000 people would think I’m crazy
Just paid $35k for a 4 yo gypsy gelding. He’s done 60 days of training. 😵
The golden rule for buying a horse is that It's the horse before you that counts. Not it's breeding, not it's pedigree, not if it's "graded" or not, assuming graded is alternative English for "without papers". For another thing I would rather have a Friesian cross on any alternative registry or not even on a registry than a Friesian registered with the KFPS or FHANA. I would also pay over the odds for that horse in front of me if it wasn't on either of the latter two registries. When a breed is so critically inbred as the pedigree Friesian horse I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. Considering what gets premies and is gekeured, the sunken backs the insane head carriage and the breeding coefficients why would anyone be looking for papers for the breed. If you find a Friesian cross that fills your requirements consider yourself extremely lucky because you're not going to find one elsewhere. Of course in the world of horse dealing there are chancers in the world who will try their luck price wise, this has being going on since time immemorial, but a good horse is a good horse and the price unless you strike it extremely lucky will reflect that too. BTW that "Friesian" isn't half badly put together. Like it? Spend the money.
Times are insane these days😔
Got 2 of my horses for free, my other for400, another for 200 and my most "recent" (2011) for 450. They're absolute jewels ❤❤
I found an add with what I hope is a lot of typo's. 15" great horse. 4 years old. Has been doing Prix St George since 2. $ 45,000.00 I'm not sure how they could ride him. 😅
I’m around the Hunter/jumper circuit in Florida, and sellers are calling mid fives a beer budget 💀
8:30 If you think that isn't a Friesian
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My horse I adopted from a rescue/fostercare she prior to the rescue/fostercare wasent feed proper and then this lady adopted her from the state gained her weight up and trained her for westren pleasure and trail riding and know trail riding and starting barrel racing horse not to compete but for control and comfort of speed with the horse I got her originally for 5.000$ but got her for 2.000$ she is a paint quarter horse
How Is the first horse flashy I was always lead to believe a flashy horse means awesome colours and pattern, the first 'friesian' looks a bit out of proportion, the poor barrel horse looks like what my mom would call an old nag, seems like that saddle is hiding something,friesian mare does not look friesian enough to be called a friesian, and I think the last one gave me a heart attack!!!! Call me an ambulance lol. I must say I LOVE this channel you make me feel like I'm not crazy! So many ridiculous people out there who think too highly of their 'skills' and 'knowledge' if only the watched you and learned from you.
I'm guessing these prices are different by area. In Oregon the first horse you had shown would sell for about 4K max.
"At least take good photos of it!" I will NEVER UNDERSTAND the bad photos on sell sites. Like, you see this a lot on people selling fish tanks. They'll post a photo of their filthy tank with 2'' of black moldy water complete with LITERAL DEAD FISH FLOATING IN IT and ask for a price similar to what you'd get a brand new one at the store for.. like. you realize you can charge WAY MORE if the product looks decent, right?? If it comes with a filter I'll forgive the filter looking kind of dingy cause that tends to happen but the tank itself and its stand should be pristine lol
I wouldn't be surprised if they were all scammers. We see it a lot in dogs and cats too, just saw someone buy a mixed breed kitten for $350, the person who did the ad stole photos of a purebred Maine Coon and then the other one wasn't even a purebred Maine Coon that someone was rehoming for $50 💀I've seen a lot of puppies being sold for $2k and they have stolen photos, then when you go to purchase they want you to send the money through Western Union and as soon as you do the ad and the person disappears. It's funny though that they aren't even using photos of nice horses here or lying about them, but I still feel like asking that much money, they have to be a Western Union and run kind of person.
Prices are so unrealistic. I watched a video of a horse auction and the majority of horses going for $30-100k or MORE. Lots of mix breed, grade, or unbroke horses for 5 figures on Dreamhorse. Whos buying them???
love the bangs!
Crossbred horses are just fine and can do the same jobs as a pure bred. Doesn't mean they should be priced the same. With a purebred, part of what you're paying for is the literal centuries of bloodline monitoring that went into the horse you're buying.
I've never had a chance to own my own horse, and it's been almost a decade since I've ridden, but if I had the right place, I'd be looking for draft cross or a Morgan cross.
I had my horse for 30 yrs I had to put him down 4 yrs ago I've been pricing horses and there's no way I can afford to spend what there asking this video is so true crazy prices
I dunno if you look at Horse Plus Humane Society but they recently had and adopted out an Akal Tekke crossbreed- it's name is Black Beauty and it caused quite a stink when they said it looked like a Friesian. They meant no harm- just when they got him in intake he already had that air about him. But still even he, as a beautiful crossbreed, they simply adopted him out, not making people pay thousands. There are many horse rescues out there for people now. Adopt don't shop!
I mean I got my horse around 14 years ago as a friesian/percheron both registered sire/dam but still mixed. BUT I got him as a yearling for like $3k. Now he's around 4th-psg but even still, the draft part of him holds him back quite a bit being super shoulder dominant. I mean would I take it back? absolutely not he is my ride or die. Would I now (that I could afford) get a warmblood from a trusted proven dressage clinician, yes. I suppose its a know what you're getting yourself into, don't get suckered into insane prices, bring a trainer as a second unbiased opinion, and just know this is a lifelong decision not an impulsive one. Took him well over 5 years with intensive full-time training to get to where he is now, and we do clinics a few times a month with top level clinicians. Cant afford that sorta thing? Reconsider owning and think about leasing. Now want a trail horse? Go find a horse for $1k and under that has a PPE and you're golden, and all horses deserve good homes regardless. Depends on what you want, but I wouldnt write off crosses entirely
If I could attach a picture I would lol
I love the personality, size and beauty of the Gypsy Vanner. However, i am not interested in the mites a lot of them have in the feathers and a few other things. I chose to breed for a cross. I chose to use a half registry to help them if i am ever unable to care for them properly. Same as proper training and care, iy sets them up for the best result if all of my other precautions fail and they need to be rehomed. I dont care about papers but i know others do, plus it helps establish age. Im just saying sometimes theres a good reason.
It’s pretty bonkers how the market is right now. I know years ago I’d see some grade, kid safe jumper ponies go for insane amounts because rich parents would happily spend $30k+ for a safe horse and registration didn’t matter. Now I’m seeing these very basic trail horses going for stupid numbers. Heck, I’m seeing tons of Appaloosa and Paint weanlings going for $10k+ just because of their color.
I like watching these videos because I found someone selling a horse for $500,000 for an older mare
Did it happen to be made of gold? Because otherwise that price is absolutely bananas.
Maybe that was a mis-print. Really only $50,000. A bargain. 😉
A 16 hand quarter horse ? Appendix maybe……
What’s crazy that I’ve seen is random people or like the Amish buying our completely finished, show ready reining horses that are aging out and flipping them for over 100k. They put zero effort into training them or getting them into show condition, just buy them from people in our industry, put a kid on them or teach them a few tricks then flip for insane amount of money. It’s driving the prices up for us normal people like crazy. Like Twombley and Cowgirls and Cadillacs.
Horse flipping is the new House flipping. 🤨
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I’m going horse back riding tomorrow