So I've waited with a comment until I had my sparring to check out the whole moving more and it improved my fencing quite a lot! I've noticed that my opponents did have to spread their attention much more than usual, and it also allowed me to probe the opponent before exchanges! Breve is one of my favourite guards because of it's simplicity, how long you can stay in it, and how much easier it makes understanding the distance you are at! (Which I think is a thing no one really talks about). Thank you for this video! I really appreciate these guard videos, they help me understand what people can do with them! I think it's some gold right there!
I have a similar opinion of middle guard with regard to Japanese/Korean swordsmanship as well. It's so ubiquitous that one would think it is always good, but while pressure testing, it hasn’t been as useful as other guards, my favorite being boar’s tooth.
I like your explanation of "stabile" posta, that should always move 🙂 What about using posta breve as a passive block? Against, say, waist-level mezano or sottano I often do a block with sword on the side, point facing up and forward. I have always thought that this would be posta breve too, as typical riposte from that is direct thrust, just as from breve.
I argued quite a bit about this Posta with a local Fiore enthusiast(but also a Price disciple). He insisted that the way the master intended the posta to be executed was with the pommel of the sword literally resting on the abdomen/belt line ,,,to which the master never specifically direct us to do that....I argue that we should leave at least a fist of distance between the body and our pommel to have some "cushion space and space to maneuver into other actions from it". What do you think?
Not exactly sure what Fiore says, but structurally, your sword should be out with your arms at around 135° and your hands lined up with your center. This will give you the most structure
As the Poste describe a system of movement, you should see it as the strong and weak of a sword. Everything which is behind half extension of the arms is breve, everything beyond it is Longa. Roughly.
Hello Federico. Thank you very much for everything you do for the HEMA community. I have a question. Does Fiore say anywhere that Posta Breve is "the neutral guard" ? I’m searching across different manuscripts and books what is the "neutral guard". Thanks for your time.
@@colinfreymond7821 no he doesn’t say this anywhere. This is what I say in the first video of the guard series and it’s related to application, not interpretation.
That has to be the second most heavily guarded Chruch in all of Christendom after the San Pietro basilica (do the Swiss guards know HEMA for halberds though?). Here you always have 1 to 2 people with swords getting at it!
There is a technique called Kronhau in Meyer’s system where we deliver a strike from Pflug, the German equivalent of posta breve. He tells us: “When you stand in pflug and your opponent strikes you from above, intercept it on your quillons, bring your pommel high, and strike with the short edge onto his head behind his blade.”
I say this because Meyer says very little about the guard other than “you can deliver thrusts from below” and it can be held on the right or left side haha.
@@FedericoMalagutti Yes! You can modify Meyers techniques to use thrusts all the time. He specifically says he doesn’t use thrusts (often), but it’s not clear why. Either safety or a cultural thing with the fencing guild he was in are the best guesses.
So I've waited with a comment until I had my sparring to check out the whole moving more and it improved my fencing quite a lot! I've noticed that my opponents did have to spread their attention much more than usual, and it also allowed me to probe the opponent before exchanges!
Breve is one of my favourite guards because of it's simplicity, how long you can stay in it, and how much easier it makes understanding the distance you are at! (Which I think is a thing no one really talks about). Thank you for this video! I really appreciate these guard videos, they help me understand what people can do with them! I think it's some gold right there!
Thank you for your kind words. I’m happy to be of any help.
I have a similar opinion of middle guard with regard to Japanese/Korean swordsmanship as well. It's so ubiquitous that one would think it is always good, but while pressure testing, it hasn’t been as useful as other guards, my favorite being boar’s tooth.
Musashi says it. Chudan is the most important position, as it’s at the center of all the others.
He also encourages to not stay in any single guard, not unlike Fiore.@@FedericoMalagutti
Wonderful discussion, but the mountains behind you were so beautiful, it was slightly distracting. Good problems to have!
Another great video thanks for posting.
Another posta video! Looking forward!
Si imparano sempre cose interessanti dal tuo video! Ottima spiegazione, facile da seguire anche per chi ha un inglese scolastico come me. 👍🏻
Grazie!
Great video as always! This is definitely one I'm finding myself in more recently.
It’s part of tactics evolution!
I like your explanation of "stabile" posta, that should always move 🙂
What about using posta breve as a passive block? Against, say, waist-level mezano or sottano I often do a block with sword on the side, point facing up and forward. I have always thought that this would be posta breve too, as typical riposte from that is direct thrust, just as from breve.
Yeah, it works that way, definitely.
Awesome thank you
I argued quite a bit about this Posta with a local Fiore enthusiast(but also a Price disciple). He insisted that the way the master intended the posta to be executed was with the pommel of the sword literally resting on the abdomen/belt line ,,,to which the master never specifically direct us to do that....I argue that we should leave at least a fist of distance between the body and our pommel to have some "cushion space and space to maneuver into other actions from it". What do you think?
Not exactly sure what Fiore says, but structurally, your sword should be out with your arms at around 135° and your hands lined up with your center. This will give you the most structure
@@PoorMansHEMA I agree, for me it s basic body mechanics
As the Poste describe a system of movement, you should see it as the strong and weak of a sword. Everything which is behind half extension of the arms is breve, everything beyond it is Longa. Roughly.
Hello Federico. Thank you very much for everything you do for the HEMA community. I have a question. Does Fiore say anywhere that Posta Breve is "the neutral guard" ? I’m searching across different manuscripts and books what is the "neutral guard".
Thanks for your time.
@@colinfreymond7821 no he doesn’t say this anywhere. This is what I say in the first video of the guard series and it’s related to application, not interpretation.
@@FedericoMalagutti Thank you for your answer
That has to be the second most heavily guarded Chruch in all of Christendom after the San Pietro basilica (do the Swiss guards know HEMA for halberds though?). Here you always have 1 to 2 people with swords getting at it!
lol
iirc they’re just decorative, they use rifles during actual duties.
There is a technique called Kronhau in Meyer’s system where we deliver a strike from Pflug, the German equivalent of posta breve.
He tells us: “When you stand in pflug and your opponent strikes you from above, intercept it on your quillons, bring your pommel high, and strike with the short edge onto his head behind his blade.”
I say this because Meyer says very little about the guard other than “you can deliver thrusts from below” and it can be held on the right or left side haha.
If you think about it it may be a step-by-step way to land a thrust on tempo with opposition also!
@@FedericoMalagutti Yes! You can modify Meyers techniques to use thrusts all the time. He specifically says he doesn’t use thrusts (often), but it’s not clear why. Either safety or a cultural thing with the fencing guild he was in are the best guesses.