This Is How You Actually Know You're A Writer - Carole Kirschner
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In this Film Courage video interview, Entertainment Career Coach, Speaker and Author Carole Kirschner shares how a storyteller is someone who loves sharing stories, often from a young age, and they have a burning desire to express something through their tales. Great storytellers aim to engage and impact their audience, and they focus on creating compelling characters and unexpected plot twists.
Carole Kirschner spent fifteen years as a television development executive. A former Vice
President of Television for Steven Spielberg's first Amblin Entertainment and a Comedy
Development exec at CBS, she’s had the privilege of working with some of the most
respected writers in the industry.
Switching to the other side of the desk she became a consultant and created and runs
the CBS/Paramount Writers Mentoring Program, which has helped launch the careers of
more than eighty television writers of color, including 14 showrunners. Because of her
work with CBS she was asked to help writer/producer Jeff Melvoin as he developed the
curriculum for the WGA Showrunner Training Program and as the Director has been
running the Program for 18 years.
Ms. Kirschner, through her career coaching practice, Carole Kirschner Entertainment
Career Strategies (carolekirschner dot com) works primarily with screenwriters who are
stuck or need help navigating the political landscape. She recently launched the
successful online course, “How to Pitch a TV Show That Sells” and is gearing up for her
new online course, “Get the F Unstuck: Break Through and Create Your Ideal
Hollywood Career” in late spring. She is also an international speaker and her book,
Hollywood Game Plan: How to Land a Job in Film, TV and Digital Entertainment is
taught in colleges across the country.
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When did you realize you were a writer?
Since kindergarten when i wrote my first story books. Though i had a traumatic moment in 1st grade when the teacher used my homework as an example of bad wiring. (I started a sentence with 'but' and another with 'and'). Three decades later, i finally got my fear of writing. I'm almost finished my novel - 5 years in the making. 500k+ words, 1100+ pages, and a cast of the most engaging characters you'll ever meet. Thank you for posting all these vids!
In 2024
During pandemic.
The moment I realized that my deep understanding of human nature is because I'm obssessed with stories, and so is everyone else, they just dont know it. The essence of humanity is our ability to tell stories, its literally who we are.
Mid teens
I started coming up with silly stories as a kid and wrote some down. By high school, I read scores of novels and wrote dozens of short stories and countless poems. I got into music for many years after high school and realized all I was really interested in was composition, not so much performing. Now I'm taking on screenwriting and I feel write at home. A lot of parallels to classical and romantic symphonic composition. It's actually been really helpful.
I agree, composition and storytelling have a lot in common.
I cannot wow enough.
Great interview. Pure gold.
Everything Carole says reassures me a lot.
Great to hear that!
This made me cry in the first minute.
I've been having so many problems with being able to have time where I'm actually able to think and be able to sit down and write lately and I feel so cornered because I can't express myself and I've been creating comics and stories and writing since I was 5 or 6. It kills me to not have time to write and it's one of the only things that makes me feel truly alive
I can totally relate to what you just said, I'm in that same predicament. But honestly, the only way is to find the time to write, you and I. And write anything, even if it's just an opinion on TH-cam, lol! It's something. Find the time to write, and don't censor yourself, just write down whatever you think and feel at the moment. Eventually you'll find your flow, and you'll keep going.
@@rudyspective1870 To have another person and fellow Writer tell me that personally means a lot. Thanks. I will finish my story even if it takes another decade
I when I was 14 years I love doing it looking at tv creating my own verisons a message I want to say I have to do it it's like breathing for me
I always right from the heart from my emotions
As an aspiring storyteller this was so reassuring and incite full.
Great interview 🙏❤️
I’ve always been in a fantasy world. School told me I couldn’t write. In my 60s I finally realized I was always writing stories in my mind to myself. I am finally writing things down.
I really resonate with what she says. The stories I want to tell come from a deep place within myself, both emotionally and philosophically. I really hope to move people and offer them things to consider, as well as entertain.
And I DO believe all of this is possible to accomplish within the fantasy genre! :) Fantasy is a great co-genre with drama, because the stakes can be even higher in such a setting (powerful beings / magic etc.).
Her reply is making me blush😊
İf you aren't here accidentally you are hidden story teller writer trust your self and show us that you are unique
When I convinced my teacher(in a essay) schools that wear uniforms have more benefits financially than free dress.
She said it was well written. Most students side with free dress because it’s easier to come up with opinions why free dress is best. But I took the uniform route because it seemed more of a challenge to convince the reader.
What did it, is when I argued against my own points but was able to bring it around and flip it back to support my main point and drive it home. Stick the landing lol
So far, I’m done with the script and heading towards story board. Spielberg said stick figure is okay. So that’s what I’m going with.
I want to express something…figuring it out is the hard part😅
This is exactly how it is!!!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!! 😁
Madam Carole explains the nuances of story telling, its core and the way of story development very lucidly, pragmatically and usefully
Thanks are due to Madam Carole and team Film courage
1. You told stories even as a child
2. You have a diary or journal
3. You wrote episodes for cartoons or tv as a fan
4. You love telling stories about your life or about lessons learned
5. You want to share meaningful experiences that move people
6. You want to entertain people even scare others
7. You want to share what is authentic regardless of niches
8. You like to take fringe stories and rework them for ordinary people
9. You study experience looking for new solutions to typical trauma
10. You recognize when to water down trauma & retell the story for target audiences
Thank you for this very good explanation. When I was growing up my dad was a telling me stories and he was a great story teller. Most of his stories were based on events that have happened. To tell other stories, he was using his imagination.
This is a great conversation! Carole made it sound quite easy to write and easy to understand. Unfortunately it made me think I'm not cut out to be a storyteller, but I do like to write about my opinions on things...
Wouldn't rule yourself out just yet. Keep writing and think about how you want to say something, in a way it that has never been said. Carole is just letting us know about how good storytellers normally are, they are not rules set in stone.
I remember a teacher telling us that creating stories is fun because you're allowed to lie all you want. The more fantastical the lie, the better.
6:00 those are not innate things. They’re behavior patterns and thought patterns, which are learned. Your “personality type” is the product of your life.
I always struggled with reading. If it was captivating I'd reread the same line over and over till it made sense. Not so much when it wasn't. That to say I loved film/tv. Grade school to undergrad, whenever there was a creative writing assignment I'd start plotting right away, always connecting whatever was taught in class to my story. Needing more electives to graduate, I signed up for short story writing. First short, my professor handing my work to another one of her author friends and they along with my classmates gave me great feedback. Aiding for the media dept in grad school is where I realized people actually WROTE TV and film🤯. Who'da thunk🤷🏾♂️Ever since then screenwriting has been my passion.
I love my characters so much that when I kill them I cry....alot
But they still have to die
I loved 'Man in the Moon' -- Andy Kaufman says something like 'when people come to my show, I want them to feel everything -- happiness, anger, sadness, doubt ... ' and a bunch of other that I forgot from the movie. But what stuck was as a child he was jumping on his bed, telling a story with his stuffed animals as characters .... then at the end of the movie, it had been such an emotional roller coaster, I think I understood what he (well, the movie version) was trying to express, maybe
Hi
I write short stories based on characters I saw in my childhood, their struggles, their skills, their transitions, triumph and ignomny.
The day I discovered Carole Kirschner...
The funny part about all of these Film Courage interviews is that every filmmaker says something different and contradictory of the other. Art and film are extremely subjective, the only common denominator between every great film is that it evokes emotion in an entertaining way…moral of the story: don’t be boring with your drama film, ENTERTAIN the audience at all costs
We do our best to share different perspectives.
@@filmcourage I think it’s excellent..have followed this page for many years. I’m just saying there is no formula for success in film. The underlying theme is to make something entertaining that people will pay to see, leading to revenue for your investors…
Indeed we see that you go back many years! Great to see that you continue to visit with us! Hopefully we've helped to contribute to you making work that is less boring and more entertaining!
@@filmcourage 😂 you really have
That’s right : I like this interview : this was. A GOOD one
I wrote a rhyming poem at age 6, and I recall the thrill of creation. On reading it, however, I was so disappointed in the quality that I threw it away and didn't try again till I was 10 or 11. By that point I was ready to write something that scanned perfectly and used Poetic Diction. Later I found out that Poetic Diction has fallen on hard times since Wordsworth, which still infuriates me, and rhyme is out of favor as well. So I have a gift which is unwanted.
Screenwriting strikes me as poetic. It's a relatively short form in which rhythm and sound and image are important, and which has strict formal requirements. I suppose I'm a writer with an alienated gift in search of a new form.
What if we have these traits but feel more compelled or drawn to tell our story as a director?
I think this is so important. Recently a friend who had written a script asked me to read it, which made me feel nice because I'm not a script writer (yet). As a non-script writer, there were parts of it I wanted to change to clear up what the scene may have called for (from an emotional standpoint), but I realized a good director and strong acting would have the same effect, and that it probably wasn't necessary to change the script.
I might be wrong about that assessment. Still learning how it all works!
Then work towards that. But still, learn story. Have you heard of Billy Wilder? He directed some of the first noirs, and co-wrote and directed Some Like it Hot - an old B&W from maybe the 50s that's still regarded as one of the top comedies. Well, he was adamant that he was NOT a director, but a writer. But he had to direct because too many directors didn't understand story. He was tired of them offing up his scripts. And when he directed Sunset Boulevard, which was kind of a huge FU to Hollywood if you learn about it, the story had an actual famous director of the time in it, Cecil B. DeMille. Cecil asked Billy how he should portray his role, and Billy said just to be himself as a director. Cecil said, "Just between you and me, I don't think a lot of directors can act." And Billy responded, "Just between you and me, I don't think a lot of directors can direct."
Those might not be the exact quotes, and I didn't write it as funny, but the point is that learning story is super important, even if you merely want to direct. And it's also good to recognize when you've got a good writer and a good script, and to respect the emotion of what that conveys for the end result of the film. Sure directors need to be open to whatever life the recording of it takes on itself, but learn about it so you don't destroy the story of it. In the end, it's still another way to relay a story to people, and you want to do that well.
There are many channels on TH-cam that can help you with learning to direct. And if you can't write a good script, let somebody else write one. but learn how to recognize a good script and to convey the script in a good way. And look up film groups in your area. Meetup probably has plenty. get to know people and see if they'll let you help on their sets. Then work on making some shorts of your own. It's collaborative, and that's where you'll learn the most, which is also necessary to have worked on films to be a director. you can even just use your phone to video things, if need be. You don't need to start out big. Just start out.
That's a great question! You might think of it the way a painter thinks of their tools; the tools serve a purpose, and that purpose is to elicit an emotional response from the observer. In a director's case, the tools he feels drawn to are scripts, actors, sets, lighting, etc., etc., which all together create your story.
True, if I'm watching a show and can't root for anyone, I lose interest. Sometimes (especially nowadays), they kill off all the good or interesting characters, and I just stop watching them, ie (Walking Dead).
06:00
Deep meaning is very subjective. Big Bang didn't have that success without a lot of people finding meaning beyond entertainment.
Mercury aspects your Ascendant or Moon....
Or you're a Gemini sun and ascendant with mercury in Gemini and a Scorpio moon haha ❤
Ooof.
What a wonderful interview!! Thank you so much for sharing. 😊❤
"What about trauma?"
Instantly triggered
"Hate it. Don't go there."
Sorry. My story begins with the MC having a panic attack after having a near death experience and not knowing what happened to her partner, who is really the only person she has any kind of emotional connection with.
Not even sorry.
As a trauma survivor this is why it's hard being a survivor. People are put off by your tough stuff, but hey it's just real. I don't know ❤
Emily in Paris was an offensive clusterfuck
I couldn't get into that. I don't know why so many people liked it.
I want to annoy everyone 😂
I don’t even know of a person who doesn’t tell stories.
I have a burning desire to get paid... does that count?
Hell yes👍🏾😂
If you need someone else's validation and reassurance that you are a writer - you are not a writer, just hacker!
im a storyteller 🤣
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