Thank you for taking the time to dig the possible 'chinese copy' side of the product and linking to the probable original stove. I really like your honest reviews !
I got this thing, and I'll just say it boils water in no time, it works like a charm, doesn't use too much fuel and makes little smoke. It wraps, but nothing crazy and it's slightly heavy if you're worried about weight. But damn it works, those steel plates really work, this thing spits very strong heat up the chimney, I'm looking on getting one of those Butsir mini radiators to put on top of the flame and take advantage of all that massive heat this thing spits out the top. It also can burn fairly big timber bits, and it absolutely disintegrates all the wood you put in there, you're left with just white ash. I'm very very pleased with this purchase. Thanks for the video!
Good video, and I purchased one for my collection based on your great demonstration! As you said though, this is a one trick pony. From my first couple burns though, I realized an issue with longer sticks falling out of the feed port. I modified mine by attaching a "U" shaped metal feed port, about 8 inches long, that allows me to direct and support the longer sticks for easier feeding. Not necessary, but very helpful. I wish I had a way to show you a picture on how it looks. Using here around the house it works good. Even during the Winter here in Ohio I like to cook outside at least once a week. If I were to pack the the stove and take away, I wouldn't pack the extended feed port--too bulky. Anyway, I have used the flat pack stove maybe 20 times now cooking soups, stews, steaming vegetables, fry pan, etc. It's my go to stove for for strictly cooking! I have used the stove non-stop as long as 4 hours. Only minor warping as you noted. Still performs great. I am sure the original Rocket King is probably a stronger and more durable stove, but for the money this is great! Thanks again and keep the reviews coming!
Expedite a quick cooling even while loaded with embers, I would start to disassemble without waiting for it to burn out first. Provided you are using it in a fire safe area. I use a stick to remove the two cross pieces up top, remove the ember plate at the bottom, turn the stove on it's side and tap the plates from the bottom to take apart. Move all the plates to a fresh cool area and it will cool in 5 to 10 minutes!
The cost for the Rocket King to Canada is insane compared to the cost in the US. The cost for the knock off is ridiculously low, and it has the cross bars. The forest is colorful & bright. What a nice day to do a video!!!
Hello Mark! I also got this stove and i made some modifications i drilled some holes for tentpegs to hold a trangia stove. Works really well and i love this stove because of it's packsize. Its in the back of my Daypack and it's works quite qell for more than a half yeat right now. Thanks for your Review!
I have considered your modification and may do that yet. I am curious if you have noticed any secondary combustion (jets of flame) at the drilled holes when using wood? Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft the combution on this Design is very good and there is almost no coals left. It depends on the type of wood that you are using. But the 4 small holes for the tenpegs are almost ineffectual they are only 6mm in diameter
Thanks for this in depth video. I just ordered one of these after seeing it check the boxes I was looking for. Found you video after. Glad to see it does just what I'd hoped. Most portable wood stoves are simply too small and unstable for a larger, say 1600ml pot. I got mine on Amazon for ~$25. Should be here in 2 days.
I hope to work on the VIRE video soon. Temperatures are starting to dip and that is what I was waiting for. VIRE also just sent me their new mini stove to test. Looks good so far. Thanks for commenting
I grow weary hearing about products that have been ripped off by the Chinese. While there are many products that appear copied by companies that happen to be in China. I highly doubt all 1.4 billion Chinese citizens are complacent. Thanks for the video and for the nod towards Tom Mills.
i've just bought a stove very much like this, but the smaller version, from a uk company called SF Innovations.... for only £20 inc p&p. i've also got some carbon felt coming from amazon, for insulating the chimney, as per your recommendation.
Mark ... Excellent review; better video. You are a prince, Mark!!! What I like best about you is your gentlemanly demeanor and an integrity beyond reproach!!! Me and mine wish you and yours all things great and good!!! Take care, be safe, all my best and God bless!!! Chuck Knight from Buffalo, Texas, USA. 🤠🐩🖖✝️
He is making enough noise by talking that any bear within 500 meters or yards that can hear him would be running away in fear. Bears aren’t inquisitive like you think unless they are starving to death. They would rather find the next ripest berry patch to chow down in. Even Grizzly Bears are usually only carnivores when the fishing is abundant. There are only black bears where he is located!!
LOL...I have had a few bear encounters. Not in this area although they are around. I have also had curious coyotes come fairly close. I am not concerned about either and actually enjoy the sightings. I think sometimes they come to the smell of my coffee😅. Thanks for commenting
It's interesting to see a rocket stove that can simmer, but if it can't at least double as an alcohol stove stand/wind break, then I don't see much use for them. Unless you really need intense heat. As for the Chinese thing, we need to get you a lot more subscribers somehow, so you can get some more revenue, and don't need to keep shopping of that Chinese site. I hate that stuff, but it's just not a Saturday morning anymore if I don't see your videos. You're one of those friendly faces I look forward to watching each week. Even if I don't care too much about the topic. Have a good "long" weekend Mark!
Like reading the comments. Group intelligence, maybe collaborate development. Another watcher said he’d modified the chimney to accept tent pegs to hold his alcohol burner.
Col Rodrick Yeah, for sure. Just a couple kebab skewers from the dollar store, and a couple dry small holes. I'm good with my firebox, and I'll be picking up a pack stove this spring, so I'm good, but I'll always keep an eye out for something better. But in the end, it's what suits each person best. This one just doesn't suit me. Doesn't mean the design isn't good for other people.
Mark Young Well I have, and love the firebox, as you know, but I would like to find something a little smaller and lighter for day trips, or solo overnights, because it's bigger and heavier than I need for those trips. The Pack Stove seems to fit all the requirements of cost, size, durability. Plus it's made in N America and is a smaller start up sort of thing, which focuses on customer service, which I love to support. It's also good for wood, and alcohol, which is a must. The only thing I dislike about it is that it doesn't fold flat, but since my usual pot should just fit inside it, that's not a big deal. I prefer that over a puzzle stove, because I don't like to mess with cold hands, or trying to figure it out in the dark, or even dropping a piece, but that's not a huge deal breaker compared to the rest of the things I'm looking for.
@@jimf1964 You can't go wrong with the Pack Stove for sure. I just received and starting testing Mac's XL and it look amazing. I also have a new, smaller stove from FlexFire in Germany that I am really liking but it is a "puzzle" design. Sounds like the Pack Stove is your best fit though
Glad you liked the video. I have pre-loaded the stove with sticks and lit it from the top. Works great like that. Very hot, intense flame. I have not made a traditional four-segment Swedish torch in it yet. Thanks for commenting
LOL...when it comes to twig stoves, I have figured out that you have to pick your battles; I take a lighter stove on a long trip, and something as heavy as this rocket stove on a day trip and overnighter. I have this stove, and I have had dangerously hot fires in it, and got the same minor warping you achieved. I am very fond of rocket stoves (billions of people cook on rocket stoves, specifically -- or an applied derivation of one, as a matter of choice worldwide, outside of the US and Canada). Rocket stoves are, as far as I know, the only portable twig stove one can have that allows for direct regulation of the cooking heat by manipulating the type, amount, and girth of the wood sticks one slides in as the cooking progresses. I watch videos from Africa and South America, and this method is routinely used to cook many, many, delicious meals in the bush. I have copied this method, and by golly -- it works! :) Thanks for the vid, and please keep the stove videos coming!
Looking for the one-stove-does-all is as elusive as single cutting tool for all uses. I am very intrigued by rocket stoves, more so than wood-gas stoves. I am looking at a few of the bigger ones for stationary use. I may make one just to give a try. Lots of stoves videos to come. Thanks for copmmenting
As mentioned in the video, warping has been minor so far with a lot of hot fires. I can say all metal will warp over time. I don't foresee this stove being worse than others and will be easy to bend back into shape. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft used it last night, seems to use a little bit more twigs the I would need with the storm kettle but overall for the price i’m really pleased.
Interesting gadget stove Mark, I saw it few years ago and thinking that it is far to small. I Like the idea of using the inexpensive fire starters from dollarama bu while watching your video an idea pop to my mind, could it be use use with some wood pellets🤔 It might worth a try don't you think? Other wise I like your thoughts about this little thing👍👍👍
I would backpack that in a HEARTBEAT over my custom plasma cut flat pack rocket king clone...mine is solid steel and is a THICK gauge, you think a pound and a few ounces is heavy? Pick MINE up. It's every bit of 5 pounds, maybe 6. Same size as that roughly....10 inches tall. It's a heavy sucker, but it will outlive me and the next three owners.
@@MarkYoungBushcraft That's just a normal small camp stove, a rocket stove has to have two chambers the fuel is burnt in one and the gases from the fuel ignite in the other because the temperature is hot enough in the second chamber to ignite the gases.
Thank you for taking the time to dig the possible 'chinese copy' side of the product and linking to the probable original stove. I really like your honest reviews !
Thank you for your kind words
I agree, Mark's honest approach is so refreshing as compared to many other people on YT
I got this thing, and I'll just say it boils water in no time, it works like a charm, doesn't use too much fuel and makes little smoke. It wraps, but nothing crazy and it's slightly heavy if you're worried about weight. But damn it works, those steel plates really work, this thing spits very strong heat up the chimney, I'm looking on getting one of those Butsir mini radiators to put on top of the flame and take advantage of all that massive heat this thing spits out the top.
It also can burn fairly big timber bits, and it absolutely disintegrates all the wood you put in there, you're left with just white ash.
I'm very very pleased with this purchase.
Thanks for the video!
I have been thinking about trying one of the radiators. Yes, this stove works quite well even if it is a bit heavy. Thanks for commenting
I once cooked a big heavy pot of chicken soup for more than an hour on this stove. It worked very well and was very efficient.
Yes, it does produce a hot clean flame. Thanks for commenting
Good video, and I purchased one for my collection based on your great demonstration! As you said though, this is a one trick pony. From my first couple burns though, I realized an issue with longer sticks falling out of the feed port. I modified mine by attaching a "U" shaped metal feed port, about 8 inches long, that allows me to direct and support the longer sticks for easier feeding. Not necessary, but very helpful. I wish I had a way to show you a picture on how it looks. Using here around the house it works good. Even during the Winter here in Ohio I like to cook outside at least once a week. If I were to pack the the stove and take away, I wouldn't pack the extended feed port--too bulky. Anyway, I have used the flat pack stove maybe 20 times now cooking soups, stews, steaming vegetables, fry pan, etc. It's my go to stove for for strictly cooking! I have used the stove non-stop as long as 4 hours. Only minor warping as you noted. Still performs great. I am sure the original Rocket King is probably a stronger and more durable stove, but for the money this is great! Thanks again and keep the reviews coming!
Great testimony to the stove. I like the idea of an extended feed ramp. It prompts me to see what I can come up with. Thanks for commenting
I got one as well, man this thing works.
Expedite a quick cooling even while loaded with embers, I would start to disassemble without waiting for it to burn out first. Provided you are using it in a fire safe area. I use a stick to remove the two cross pieces up top, remove the ember plate at the bottom, turn the stove on it's side and tap the plates from the bottom to take apart. Move all the plates to a fresh cool area and it will cool in 5 to 10 minutes!
Good tip! Thanks for commenting
The cost for the Rocket King to Canada is insane compared to the cost in the US. The cost for the knock off is ridiculously low, and it has the cross bars. The forest is colorful & bright. What a nice day to do a video!!!
Crazy Amazon Canada price. Any day in the woods is great but the fall colours make it extra special. Thanks for commenting
Hello Mark!
I also got this stove and i made some modifications i drilled some holes for tentpegs to hold a trangia stove. Works really well and i love this stove because of it's packsize. Its in the back of my Daypack and it's works quite qell for more than a half yeat right now. Thanks for your Review!
I have considered your modification and may do that yet. I am curious if you have noticed any secondary combustion (jets of flame) at the drilled holes when using wood? Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft the combution on this Design is very good and there is almost no coals left. It depends on the type of wood that you are using. But the 4 small holes for the tenpegs are almost ineffectual they are only 6mm in diameter
Thanks for this in depth video. I just ordered one of these after seeing it check the boxes I was looking for. Found you video after. Glad to see it does just what I'd hoped. Most portable wood stoves are simply too small and unstable for a larger, say 1600ml pot. I got mine on Amazon for ~$25. Should be here in 2 days.
You won't be disappointed. My only con is that it is quite heavy. Thanks for commenting
Mark, well done as usual. I’m looking forward to your extended use review of the VIRE rocket stove.
I hope to work on the VIRE video soon. Temperatures are starting to dip and that is what I was waiting for. VIRE also just sent me their new mini stove to test. Looks good so far. Thanks for commenting
Another excellent review video! I looked up the corresponding Rocket King Stove on Amazon (US version) and it’s only $68, so not too bad.
Thanks for looking that up three dogs, very helpful.
Very strange how much Amazon Canada charges for the stove. Thanks for commenting
I grow weary hearing about products that have been ripped off by the Chinese. While there are many products that appear copied by companies that happen to be in China. I highly doubt all 1.4 billion Chinese citizens are complacent. Thanks for the video and for the nod towards Tom Mills.
Thanks for commenting
i've just bought a stove very much like this, but the smaller version, from a uk company called SF Innovations.... for only £20 inc p&p.
i've also got some carbon felt coming from amazon, for insulating the chimney, as per your recommendation.
I just saw you post on FaceBook. I will have to look and see if I can get one. Thanks for commenting
Mark ... Excellent review; better video. You are a prince, Mark!!! What I like best about you is your gentlemanly demeanor and an integrity beyond reproach!!! Me and mine wish you and yours all things great and good!!! Take care, be safe, all my best and God bless!!! Chuck Knight from Buffalo, Texas, USA. 🤠🐩🖖✝️
I am humbled by your kind words. Thank you Chuck
You, kind sir, are a rock star!!! Chuck Knight.
I always worry about a bear coming up from behind you when I watch your videos! Lol
He is making enough noise by talking that any bear within 500 meters or yards that can hear him would be running away in fear. Bears aren’t inquisitive like you think unless they are starving to death. They would rather find the next ripest berry patch to chow down in. Even Grizzly Bears are usually only carnivores when the fishing is abundant. There are only black bears where he is located!!
LOL...I have had a few bear encounters. Not in this area although they are around. I have also had curious coyotes come fairly close. I am not concerned about either and actually enjoy the sightings. I think sometimes they come to the smell of my coffee😅. Thanks for commenting
It's interesting to see a rocket stove that can simmer, but if it can't at least double as an alcohol stove stand/wind break, then I don't see much use for them. Unless you really need intense heat.
As for the Chinese thing, we need to get you a lot more subscribers somehow, so you can get some more revenue, and don't need to keep shopping of that Chinese site. I hate that stuff, but it's just not a Saturday morning anymore if I don't see your videos. You're one of those friendly faces I look forward to watching each week. Even if I don't care too much about the topic.
Have a good "long" weekend Mark!
Like reading the comments. Group intelligence, maybe collaborate development. Another watcher said he’d modified the chimney to accept tent pegs to hold his alcohol burner.
Col Rodrick Yeah, for sure. Just a couple kebab skewers from the dollar store, and a couple dry small holes.
I'm good with my firebox, and I'll be picking up a pack stove this spring, so I'm good, but I'll always keep an eye out for something better. But in the end, it's what suits each person best. This one just doesn't suit me. Doesn't mean the design isn't good for other people.
How big a stove are you looking for Jim?
Mark Young Well I have, and love the firebox, as you know, but I would like to find something a little smaller and lighter for day trips, or solo overnights, because it's bigger and heavier than I need for those trips. The Pack Stove seems to fit all the requirements of cost, size, durability. Plus it's made in N America and is a smaller start up sort of thing, which focuses on customer service, which I love to support. It's also good for wood, and alcohol, which is a must.
The only thing I dislike about it is that it doesn't fold flat, but since my usual pot should just fit inside it, that's not a big deal. I prefer that over a puzzle stove, because I don't like to mess with cold hands, or trying to figure it out in the dark, or even dropping a piece, but that's not a huge deal breaker compared to the rest of the things I'm looking for.
@@jimf1964 You can't go wrong with the Pack Stove for sure. I just received and starting testing Mac's XL and it look amazing. I also have a new, smaller stove from FlexFire in Germany that I am really liking but it is a "puzzle" design. Sounds like the Pack Stove is your best fit though
Thx again, Mark. Excellent info and real world demonstration!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for commenting
Bonjour Mark, is this a good wood stove, is the fireplace more efficient than a normal wood stove?
It is not as versatile as some other designs but it does burn wood very efficiently. Thanks for commenting
Ok Merci 👍
Looks like a solid stove.
Yes, a rather good design. Thanks for commenting
Great vid, and cool stove!
I quite like it. Thanks for commenting Randal
Dandy Looking & Performing Rocket Stove, Thanks, Mark Also For The Links. ATB T God Bless
Works well for sure. Thanks Terry
Thanks for your thorough review of this stove 😉👍
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for commenting
Good stuff, thank you for sharing!
May I know if you have tried a swedish fire torch method with this type of stove?
Glad you liked the video. I have pre-loaded the stove with sticks and lit it from the top. Works great like that. Very hot, intense flame. I have not made a traditional four-segment Swedish torch in it yet. Thanks for commenting
No need to repeat the comments below! 👍 Weight still equals longevity with stoves...
Hard to get around that fact. Thanks for commenting
LOL...when it comes to twig stoves, I have figured out that you have to pick your battles; I take a lighter stove on a long trip, and something as heavy as this rocket stove on a day trip and overnighter. I have this stove, and I have had dangerously hot fires in it, and got the same minor warping you achieved. I am very fond of rocket stoves (billions of people cook on rocket stoves, specifically -- or an applied derivation of one, as a matter of choice worldwide, outside of the US and Canada). Rocket stoves are, as far as I know, the only portable twig stove one can have that allows for direct regulation of the cooking heat by manipulating the type, amount, and girth of the wood sticks one slides in as the cooking progresses. I watch videos from Africa and South America, and this method is routinely used to cook many, many, delicious meals in the bush. I have copied this method, and by golly -- it works! :) Thanks for the vid, and please keep the stove videos coming!
Looking for the one-stove-does-all is as elusive as single cutting tool for all uses. I am very intrigued by rocket stoves, more so than wood-gas stoves. I am looking at a few of the bigger ones for stationary use. I may make one just to give a try. Lots of stoves videos to come. Thanks for copmmenting
Does it warp? If not currently do you think it would after time?
As mentioned in the video, warping has been minor so far with a lot of hot fires. I can say all metal will warp over time. I don't foresee this stove being worse than others and will be easy to bend back into shape. Thanks for commenting
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Just ordered mine from ebay 😉
It is heavy but it works great. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft used it last night, seems to use a little bit more twigs the I would need with the storm kettle but overall for the price i’m really pleased.
Interesting gadget stove Mark, I saw it few years ago and thinking that it is far to small. I Like the idea of using the inexpensive fire starters from dollarama bu while watching your video an idea pop to my mind, could it be use use with some wood pellets🤔 It might worth a try don't you think? Other wise I like your thoughts about this little thing👍👍👍
Hello Laurent. Yes, I will try the pellets and charcoal also. Thanks for commenting
I would backpack that in a HEARTBEAT over my custom plasma cut flat pack rocket king clone...mine is solid steel and is a THICK gauge, you think a pound and a few ounces is heavy? Pick MINE up. It's every bit of 5 pounds, maybe 6. Same size as that roughly....10 inches tall. It's a heavy sucker, but it will outlive me and the next three owners.
Ouch, That is heavy-duty for sure. Thanks for commenting
Thx for ths Video
Most welcome. Thanks for commenting
It's not a rocket stove?
It pretty much is but a true rocket stove also has an insulated chimney to reduce heat loss. Thanks for commenting
@@MarkYoungBushcraft That's just a normal small camp stove, a rocket stove has to have two chambers the fuel is burnt in one and the gases from the fuel ignite in the other because the temperature is hot enough in the second chamber to ignite the gases.
definitely a copy of rocket king
yes it is. Thanks for commenting