As someone who doesn't use twitch, my 2 cents is... Apply the rules to everyone equally, fire 75% of the staff, remove adult content, and pivot back to video games and they 'might' have a chance.
They would lose the s¿mp money that comes from the "gamer gurls" doing bikini streams, where the DONATION GOAL covers 20% of the screen, the chat 10%, her nearly-naked flesh-suit 60%, and the gameplay or whatever the other 10%. *disgusted skeleton noises* PronHub is a better site at this point. Since at least there's a few lets players there who cover adult games with lewd content.
Playing favorites absolutely ruins social media sites, Digg, Reddit, Twitter, all ruined their brands doing that. Is nobody at amazon keeping an eye on them?
@@greatveemon2 They're all s-emen-draining succubi, here to distract you and ensl-ave you through your s-ex drive, which in itself is not a toy, merely a tool to make more humans.
Same thing happened to MTV (look it up kids) when it switched from playing music videos to making "scripted entertainment" and "reality" content. I blame the roach-man Kai Cenat for turning Twitch into the hellhole it is today.
@@ThoraxetheImpaile100 What's happening to gaming? You referring to the five or ten crappy propaganda games that come out a year? The five or ten games out of the literally hundreds of games that come out every year?
@@RidiculousThoughts MTV used to be cool. Celebrity Deathmatch, Beavis & Butthead, Daria, all sorts of amazing music from the 80's and 90's. Oh yeah, MTV was amazing back in the day.
They change their rules almost weekly. Target Vtubers for no reason. Have rules for Vtubers that don't apply to non Vtubers. Boot people off for minor infractions but let others get away with almost anything. It's no wonder people are looking to jump ship.
Unless you own the site you have no rights to use it and the rules can change at a whim for which you are always at the mercy of Much better to always own your own site
I don't even see the lewd stuff as a problem. It's when people tag their streams 18+ and still get banned for PG 13 stuff, while you have those "entertainers" showing almost everything and Twitch is fine with it.
Like every successful business once they go into politics publicly their business starts to fail unless their business is all about politics from the beginning. It is that dividing of consumers and getting rid of it ASAP would be for the best for Twitch.
I just learned that all my subs went from 5 bucks to over 8 dollars without my knowledge on twitch. So I unsubbed from all my channels except 1 who i have been with for over 8 years. Just disgusting for twitch to do.
Technically, Asmongold just stepped down from leadership at Starforge and OTK. He can't get fired since he owns part of the companies. Unless they buy him out, he's there to stay.
Jeremy goes where the money is. The ONLY thing he cares about is money. However he’s also a target. Not because his personality but because he has the wrong opinions about a certain political party and ideology.
It isn't just twitch with these opaque standards, pretty much every social media platform engages in this BS. I've long been of the opinion that one biggest improvements we could make to the general system is to actually demand they have to be transparent with their standards. You hear way to often of creators being banned with boiler plate responses that give zero info as to why, and it is a total headache for them to get any info out of them, so how are they supposed to adjust. And this isn't things falling through the cracks, this is by design! They deliberately won't tell you and will be as obscure as they can get away with. This just leads to inconsistent and nonsensical rule enforcement.
@@merafirewing6591 I mean, yeah; Twitch straight up allows cam-girls and probably will let full nudity slide if the cam girl has enough watchers. Vtuber with what amounts to wearing a burka over their model "No banned, this is smut and we can't allow it on our platform!" (And now that I've said that, I have a deep desire to create a Muslim Vtuber purely out of spite for Twitch, because you know within the scope of their double standards, banning that model would be HILARIOUSLY BAD for their public image to the people they actually "care" about.)
The not giving the reasons is a feature. It makes you paranoid to the point that if you want to continue, you temper everything because you don't want to offend them. Same thing in TH-cam comments. Ever notice your comments disappearing? You end up with a "WHAT DID I DO TO DISPLEASE THEM?". Web sites that use D***us (YT might dump this comment) is the same. I've had stuff bounce that was multi sentences long. So, I've broken up it up, line by line and made seperate comments. Sentence 1. Good. 2. Good. 3,4,5 Good. 6? Not Good. Then you study it to determine what your wrong think is.
I'd been to the Middle East several times because I'm in the military. Even for us and American contractors, we always must tread lightly when we visit those countries...even now.
That article did a terrible job summarizing what happened. It could have added a few more sentences to give context, but they left it out. They didn't lie, but due to omissions, it tilted the perspective.
I literally stopped watching twitch because of how heavy-handed they were with advertisements and with no way around it. I can handle a little advertising, I’m not gonna sit through an entire commercial break just to watch (more like a miss) the entertaining part of a stream.
I wonder what Asmon would think and say if he decided to travel to Afghanistan, where they passed those new laws that banned women from talking loudly in public or even looking at any man they're not related to in some way.
I would've said the same thing Asmongold said, and never apologized for it. You should never apologize for stating facts. But I don't run a multi-million dollar company, nor am I associated with one in such a way that public disapproval of me could result in potential loss of profits for the company, so... 🤷♂️
There are several channels I watch regularly who are doing quite well that just play games or talk to chat without any gimmicks or drama. The other stuff might get all of the attention, but there are good people on that platform.
If you stick to actual video game streams, most channels are going to be perfectly fine - at least, the worst you'll get is probably a poor setup, bad gameplay, or people being annoying and screaming over voice chat. Twitch kinda opened the floodgates to their hastened demise when they approved the "Just Chatting" category.
@@Unregistered.HyperCam.2 there are only so many people who want to watch other people play video games. That was kind of a pandemic bubble too. Not opening the platform would have been worse probably. Twitch just poorly executed it. If Twitch stuck to gaming they'd be much smaller.
@@Jordan-Ramses Twitch added Just Chatting in late 2018 and I don't give half a care of if it's smaller or not or if it's completely _gone_ or not; it absolutely started going straight to hell in a handbasket when it tried to be an "all-in-one" portal for streaming _anything._ As for the number of people who want to watch others play video games: It was February 2014 where Twitch was first seen as I beleive the fourth(maybe fifth)-highest source of internet traffic in the US. 100 million views per month in 2015. I think if it's not profitable either way, anyone watching Twitch prior to late 2018 would've been just fine without "Just Chatting" being added. If anything, it'd probably just start those same people to do the same stream shenanigans on TH-cam like six months after they would've on Twitch with "Just Chatting."
@Unregistered.HyperCam.2 Twitch's profitability is complicated. Their biggest expense is Amazon's AWS. They could lose quite a bit of money and still be a net positive for Amazon. I have a feeling that is why Amazon bought Twitch. Twitch is more about making profits for AWS.
So kids are being adults and and Adults are being banned. Wait! What!? 13 years they allowed on their platform with rules too. WTF! Entertainment RUINED!!
How has Cover and the other big vtuber companies not made their own platform in response to Twitch's anti-vtuber rules yet? I feel like even an announcement of such a platform would light a fire under Twitch's butt.
I’d imagine it’s costs. Hosting large size files like videos (especially if they’re high resolution) is very expensive. It’s cheaper to just let some other website host the videos and eat the costs. But if yt ever got bad towards vtubers then it would be worthwhile for Hololive make their own video/streaming site/app.
@@ドリフト180X pretty much, for the most part tho they been keeping mostly to TH-cam, I think vShojo or whatever it's called I believe they use Twitch, probably some other Indies ones, but that's about it, others mostly use TH-cam
Cover mentioned some plans to do so a couple years ago when addressing any potential risks to their growth and operations. I think they called it something like “Holo Fan Club” or other. They were going to use it for the HoloSummer stuff so they wouldn’t have to deal with YT banning them for the swimsuit stuff. Haven’t heard much about it in quite a while though, not even sure if it even supported non-JP languages. Even if it does become a thing, most likely it would be exclusive to Hololive members
I just want Twitch to evenly apply rules. Make categories so advertisers can choose who they associate with and evenly apply rules. the more neutral the platform the better.
When they do that, I wouldn’t be surprised if they do a 180 for vtubers and be like “hey, we know we did a lot of things to you people, but we’re changing the rules we had previously and even offering incentives for you so we cool”
I wouldn't quite put it like that about the Palestinians, but comparing their society with Israel's society, I have to agree with him. Compare the treatment of the LGBTQ community in both societies
One society is an apartheid state that has pissed off many countries outside the collective by literally bombing refugee camps. Hence, I can see why people would be pissed of by Asmon's comments.
My issue with TH-cam for streaming... Is that it seems impossible to search for good streams to watch. It's all dictated by the main channel, and that channel's content; without a regular channel and following, there's going to be no way for people to search you out to watch as a new streamer. That's what I've observed, anyways.
I used to stream on Twitch like 5 years ago. I used to stream ARMA 3, Warthunder and World of Tanks. I left the platform do to the changes of ToS and other shit. I feel bad and worry for a few of my friends who stream on twitch.
Regardless of where you stand on the conflict, stay away from Mid-East. Only go as far as India if you are into watching the Cricket but I would rather Asmondgold just stay away from anywhere that doesn't respect people's rights.
Government backed funding forces them to ban anything that could be seen as opposition to the established power structure. It's been their way to circumvent the first amendment over the last 20 or so years; the government can't suppress speech, but a "private company" can "create terms of service" and railroad you with them as if they were law.
I tried to sign up on Twitch in order to see more info about vtubers in that site, since some if not most vtubers are streaming lot on Twitch instead of TH-cam. However, I encountered a problem. I couldn't sign up succesfully because the username was already exist, and the username in question is this. 👈 I gave up middle way after few attempts to find numbers for my username, and uninstalled Twitch since then. And now, after seeing what Twitch has done to vtubers, I'm so thankful with Twitch for not allowing me to sign up since most of vtubers are migrating away from Twitch.
talking about asmongold essentially brings him to the video, having him the the thumbnail is more likely for him to show up and watch it, his audience will some how see this and bring it to his attention, crazier shit has happened
Amazon will either try to save Twitch or dump it. There’s too much foolishness on that site like many others. We’ll see but I’m leaning more towards they’ll try to save it somehow. 7:36-8:25 Agreed. If there isn’t anything controversial or if there’s nothing attractive looking present most people won’t care.
I dont feel bad for twitch, I've been saying for years that a ad-pocalypse and that streamers should start creating a safety net on YT or on other streaming sites.
I was originally thinking of doing Twitch streaming a while back, but it's become more than obvious that the streaming platform's days are numbered. It DMCA purged numerous videos that content creators made over music copyright with some streamers having to do massive data backup just to save their videos before they were deleted. It's losing more money for Amazon than earning a profit, and with businesses possibly pulling out, Amazon is likely going to enact massive changes (maybe for the better) or just pull the plug on the platform altogether. Kick or Rumble seems to be the safer path, at least for now.
I'm kinda concerned I do stream on twitch (art and gaming pretty much just for fun and to talk I don't really make much on it) but I know alot of vtubers that make a living on the platform so worried how they will manage if twitch goes belly up one thing I like about twitch is the interface and YT (or kick not sure on that interface) haven't really caught up with that interface
The reason the audience has shifted away from games is because Twitch as a company stopped promoting games, and started promoting shock content, e-girls included. This is 100% self-inflicted, so if Twitch goes down, it's solely the result of Twitch's own actions. If they'd stuck with gaming like the platform was meant to be, they wouldn't be in this position.
I'm not an Asmongold fan, never was, never will, but dude you should not die for some stupid twitter argument. Just clean your house and call it even. Maybe try a different streaming platform.
"TH-cam doesn't like it when you talk about the 'R' place." More youtubers would be advised to keep a copy of their content on the "R" place because the chances of losing access to your own content if you tick off TH-cam one to many times is very high. Just ask MxR Plays.
To be fair, there are hardly any real video game content on Twitch. TH-cam provides better information about videogames. The only thing that Twitch does better is that its videos are less compressed so they look much better than TH-cam.
I would say good riddance to Twitch but I don't believe it is going anywhere. After all, what ever happened to giving TikTok the boot? It doesn't seem to have gone anywhere even after it was proven to be malware.
Tiktok and short form killed game streaming. Kids want to see you're best clips not 7 hour streams with a handful of great plays. They'd rather just watch those 10 thirty second clips of excitement over watching 7 hours of a stream waiting for those 10 great moments that last less a minute each.
To be fair, I doubt a vast majority of people who use Twitch actually sit down through entire streams. Or if they do it's because they have it on in the background while they do other things. It's just most obvious when kids leave because they have the most free time out of all age demographics.
Short-form as in edited content is okay, but Tiktok and TH-cam "shorts" is actively held back by having an absolutely neutered UI and nonexistent browsing / 'discovery' method other than just letting the mindless algorithm take the wheel.
I actually expect there to emerge more streaming platforms because with the generational shift legacy media is dying so all the energy of younger demographics has to go somewhere and thats online, Its just these platforms like Twitch are rather beta in nature having a single platform for everything I expect platforms to emerge with a tighter focus and monetization rather than hybrid gaming/commentary/politics/reaction thing we got going on now everywhere
I guess it depends on what you look at. When I'm on twitch it's to watch artists draw or paint. I have peeked in on Cohh and Ironmouse a few times, and my son is friends with a small time streamer. But, by and large, I don't like watching other people play video games; I would rather be playing a game, myself. But NONE of them are political or allow political discussion in their chats. So, I don't see these problems, because they're not in the parts of the platform that I ever look at.
Getting banned from the old faithful Twitch is what all the exciting streamers do. I think the neighborhood ghoul was looking at some numbers and realized it would be better to stream elsewhere. This all feels phoned in. Like the first one was.
As a mobile artist user. I don’t like twitch because well you can’t steam with your phone just like discord can stream on your phone share screen way. Sorry twitch this is what happens you dont listen to people wants
Whatever you do, kids - don't you go around telling the truth about anything on social media! Big Brother doesn't like any opinion they don't endorse and regulate!
As someone who doesn't use twitch, my 2 cents is... Apply the rules to everyone equally, fire 75% of the staff, remove adult content, and pivot back to video games and they 'might' have a chance.
yeah but that would take effort and honesty, which are 2 things that i do not associate with the type of people that work at twitch.
Let's not forget human review on claims, and adding a penalty for false claims.
The "Just Chatting" section being added was the beginning of the end, tbh.
They would lose the s¿mp money that comes from the "gamer gurls" doing bikini streams, where the DONATION GOAL covers 20% of the screen, the chat 10%, her nearly-naked flesh-suit 60%, and the gameplay or whatever the other 10%.
*disgusted skeleton noises*
PronHub is a better site at this point. Since at least there's a few lets players there who cover adult games with lewd content.
Goodbye twitch Also, happy Halloween everyone.
Happy Halloween 🎃
Jordan Peterson: "Clean your room. You don't know what you'll be able to accomplish afterward."
*Asmon: cleans his room
*Twitch: f-ing dies
There's also more happiness coming off of Asmon after he cleaned his house, even thought he denied anything positive would happen from it.
He said he only cleaned like a third of his house or something, that even he's kinda scared what will happen if he cleans the rest.
@@Unregistered.HyperCam.2
He might ascend to godhood, who knows... o_o.
I have no sympathy for Twitch and its staff. With how they unevenly enforced their TOS with either Tub stream girls and VTubers or other streamers.
Playing favorites absolutely ruins social media sites, Digg, Reddit, Twitter, all ruined their brands doing that. Is nobody at amazon keeping an eye on them?
what so traumatic on anime girl hips?
I still don't get why they want to ban them when you could see women outside flexing their hips and belly.
@@greatveemon2
They're all s-emen-draining succubi, here to distract you and ensl-ave you through your s-ex drive, which in itself is not a toy, merely a tool to make more humans.
I honestly don't like twitch, It's a downgrade version of TH-cam
Less popular, Less Features, more ads, bath streams
Let not forget that they where the pioneer of unskippable ads
That’s the other way around
@@coffee_2234 nice Zelda pfp.
Twitch has a ton more features than TH-cam streaming wise
If twitch bankrupts, the twitch thots will take baths on YT. It's better if they have their own space.
They should've stuck to what made Twitch well-known. Video games was Twitch's bread and butter.
...it wasnt tiddy streamers? Thats the only reason i know them.
Considering what's happened to gaming, it's no surprise Twitch has fallen so far.
Same thing happened to MTV (look it up kids) when it switched from playing music videos to making "scripted entertainment" and "reality" content. I blame the roach-man Kai Cenat for turning Twitch into the hellhole it is today.
@@ThoraxetheImpaile100 What's happening to gaming? You referring to the five or ten crappy propaganda games that come out a year? The five or ten games out of the literally hundreds of games that come out every year?
@@RidiculousThoughts
MTV used to be cool. Celebrity Deathmatch, Beavis & Butthead, Daria, all sorts of amazing music from the 80's and 90's.
Oh yeah, MTV was amazing back in the day.
The Internet is NOT for the younger people and NOT for the easily offended.
Get the internet back to how it was during the early 2000s.
Hilarious you mention this, because in the early 2000's I was also a small child, terminally online before terminally online was even a term!!
They change their rules almost weekly. Target Vtubers for no reason. Have rules for Vtubers that don't apply to non Vtubers. Boot people off for minor infractions but let others get away with almost anything. It's no wonder people are looking to jump ship.
I can't stand Vtubers, but they should be treated fairly.
Sigh.. Swear. Getting tried of "jumping" site to site because of companies and their "issues"
Unless you own the site you have no rights to use it and the rules can change at a whim for which you are always at the mercy of
Much better to always own your own site
Twitch apocalypse is upon us
Finally
It's been long overdue
People have been saying it for years, not gonna hold my breath.
@@insensitive919 It's different this time. Advertisers are going to start pulling out. Then it's all downhill from there.
SALVATION IS AT HAND!!!!
Twitch has to stop playing favourites. Ban Hasan Piker, like they banned Asmongold.
That what he gets for his disgusting remarks
@MikioTeshinga who?
@@MikioTeshinga You speak nonsense
Does no one in Gen Z know wtf banned means? Banned means forever. The word you are looking for is "suspend" they suspended Asmongold
Hasan is a decent human being. Asmondgold is MAGA. Surely you familiar?
And when they do that’ll be the end of Twitch and good riddance.
Twitch brought this all on themselves.
KARMA!
Microsoft mistake was getting rid of mixer
Dan Clancy is the final boss of e-thot simps. The internet will cheer when he is dethroned and disappears into obscurity.
@@coffee_2234they may end up rolling it out.
If they sold it to someone who will treat it as a gaming streaming site instead of a soft core corn site.
I don't even see the lewd stuff as a problem. It's when people tag their streams 18+ and still get banned for PG 13 stuff, while you have those "entertainers" showing almost everything and Twitch is fine with it.
It's already losing millions, even with that removing it will just remove more money.
Tbh, I don’t even use it. Never have and never will.
If I want to watch a Josh Strife Hayes VOD early, that's it. Can't be bothered to watch anybody live.
Yeah, Twitch kind of just sucks in general imo. Independent of the political cringe.
@@RivetCityRamsey 💯
I used to be very active on twitch, used to stream everyday and watch small streams all day but now I rarely use it
I tried. 2-3 ads which were 5 minutes each on anything i clicked on to watch. No thanks.
Twitch needs to stop getting into politics
Like every successful business once they go into politics publicly their business starts to fail unless their business is all about politics from the beginning. It is that dividing of consumers and getting rid of it ASAP would be for the best for Twitch.
Most everything should. Products should be for everyone. A broader consumer base will get you more sales and idk how they don't understand that.
I just learned that all my subs went from 5 bucks to over 8 dollars without my knowledge on twitch. So I unsubbed from all my channels except 1 who i have been with for over 8 years. Just disgusting for twitch to do.
Technically, Asmongold just stepped down from leadership at Starforge and OTK. He can't get fired since he owns part of the companies. Unless they buy him out, he's there to stay.
Twitch is the MySpace of streaming.
At least on Myspace, Tom was always there for us - at least in spirit and in jpeg form. Where's Justin TV in Twitch's darkest hour?
lol.... The Quartering is NOT SPICY!!! He's pure PG
Jeremy the squash head.
Depends on who you ask.
Quartering is a genuine shill and not true to his word. I say that as someone who used to watch him.
stopped following that guy when he tried Fencesitting on the Depp case when all evidence pointed at Turd
Jeremy goes where the money is. The ONLY thing he cares about is money. However he’s also a target. Not because his personality but because he has the wrong opinions about a certain political party and ideology.
Tired of Twitch. Their politics, their policies, their hypocrisy. They need a complete cleanup or a complete shutdown.
It isn't just twitch with these opaque standards, pretty much every social media platform engages in this BS. I've long been of the opinion that one biggest improvements we could make to the general system is to actually demand they have to be transparent with their standards. You hear way to often of creators being banned with boiler plate responses that give zero info as to why, and it is a total headache for them to get any info out of them, so how are they supposed to adjust. And this isn't things falling through the cracks, this is by design! They deliberately won't tell you and will be as obscure as they can get away with. This just leads to inconsistent and nonsensical rule enforcement.
In simple terms, they have a Nero complex.
@@merafirewing6591 I mean, yeah; Twitch straight up allows cam-girls and probably will let full nudity slide if the cam girl has enough watchers.
Vtuber with what amounts to wearing a burka over their model "No banned, this is smut and we can't allow it on our platform!"
(And now that I've said that, I have a deep desire to create a Muslim Vtuber purely out of spite for Twitch, because you know within the scope of their double standards, banning that model would be HILARIOUSLY BAD for their public image to the people they actually "care" about.)
@@lunasakara7306 make sure the hourglass figure is obvious.
The not giving the reasons is a feature. It makes you paranoid to the point that if you want to continue, you temper everything because you don't want to offend them. Same thing in TH-cam comments. Ever notice your comments disappearing? You end up with a "WHAT DID I DO TO DISPLEASE THEM?". Web sites that use D***us (YT might dump this comment) is the same. I've had stuff bounce that was multi sentences long. So, I've broken up it up, line by line and made seperate comments. Sentence 1. Good. 2. Good. 3,4,5 Good. 6? Not Good. Then you study it to determine what your wrong think is.
I'd been to the Middle East several times because I'm in the military. Even for us and American contractors, we always must tread lightly when we visit those countries...even now.
Twitch is for video games. Fin. Everything else has its place. Just not on twitch.
That article did a terrible job summarizing what happened. It could have added a few more sentences to give context, but they left it out. They didn't lie, but due to omissions, it tilted the perspective.
100%. A ~25-minute video from his channel - directly from the horse's mouth - from yesterday makes this article look like less than 1% in comparison.
I literally stopped watching twitch because of how heavy-handed they were with advertisements and with no way around it. I can handle a little advertising, I’m not gonna sit through an entire commercial break just to watch (more like a miss) the entertaining part of a stream.
Honestly I have more problem with Twitch containment break out, where all those troublesome creators will go?
Same, it’s like when tumblr caused all their users to leak out onto the net at large.
Yeah I wonder could it be like a tumbler situation where they all started ending up everywhere and causing drama?
@@ドリフト180Xthey’ll probably seek refuge in kick.
@ドリフト180X yup, just like that. The worst part is that those who outcasted from twitch will go to other platforms
You could always just... let me have their bones.
Problem solved. Win-Win.
*menacing skeleton noises*
I wonder what Asmon would think and say if he decided to travel to Afghanistan, where they passed those new laws that banned women from talking loudly in public or even looking at any man they're not related to in some way.
if, he returns
I would've said the same thing Asmongold said, and never apologized for it. You should never apologize for stating facts.
But I don't run a multi-million dollar company, nor am I associated with one in such a way that public disapproval of me could result in potential loss of profits for the company, so... 🤷♂️
I don't watch Twitch, I got kids, I can't watch a stream all day. As long as content is still uploaded to TH-cam, who cares
*GOOD! That site is a Complete Joke!*
I deleted twitch years ago. Stupid rules and too many commercials.
There are several channels I watch regularly who are doing quite well that just play games or talk to chat without any gimmicks or drama. The other stuff might get all of the attention, but there are good people on that platform.
Pekora of Hololive was the most watched female streamer in the world and she never does anything spicy.
If you stick to actual video game streams, most channels are going to be perfectly fine - at least, the worst you'll get is probably a poor setup, bad gameplay, or people being annoying and screaming over voice chat. Twitch kinda opened the floodgates to their hastened demise when they approved the "Just Chatting" category.
@@Unregistered.HyperCam.2 there are only so many people who want to watch other people play video games. That was kind of a pandemic bubble too. Not opening the platform would have been worse probably. Twitch just poorly executed it. If Twitch stuck to gaming they'd be much smaller.
@@Jordan-Ramses Twitch added Just Chatting in late 2018 and I don't give half a care of if it's smaller or not or if it's completely _gone_ or not; it absolutely started going straight to hell in a handbasket when it tried to be an "all-in-one" portal for streaming _anything._
As for the number of people who want to watch others play video games: It was February 2014 where Twitch was first seen as I beleive the fourth(maybe fifth)-highest source of internet traffic in the US. 100 million views per month in 2015. I think if it's not profitable either way, anyone watching Twitch prior to late 2018 would've been just fine without "Just Chatting" being added. If anything, it'd probably just start those same people to do the same stream shenanigans on TH-cam like six months after they would've on Twitch with "Just Chatting."
@Unregistered.HyperCam.2 Twitch's profitability is complicated. Their biggest expense is Amazon's AWS. They could lose quite a bit of money and still be a net positive for Amazon. I have a feeling that is why Amazon bought Twitch. Twitch is more about making profits for AWS.
So kids are being adults and and Adults are being banned. Wait! What!? 13 years they allowed on their platform with rules too. WTF! Entertainment RUINED!!
Every corpo should have the golden goose/egg story hammered into them
Good riddance
Twitch favoritism is just wild
How has Cover and the other big vtuber companies not made their own platform in response to Twitch's anti-vtuber rules yet? I feel like even an announcement of such a platform would light a fire under Twitch's butt.
I’d imagine it’s costs. Hosting large size files like videos (especially if they’re high resolution) is very expensive. It’s cheaper to just let some other website host the videos and eat the costs.
But if yt ever got bad towards vtubers then it would be worthwhile for Hololive make their own video/streaming site/app.
It would have to be a premium site. I do not think putting hololive idols behind a paywall is a good thing.
@@ドリフト180X pretty much, for the most part tho they been keeping mostly to TH-cam, I think vShojo or whatever it's called I believe they use Twitch, probably some other Indies ones, but that's about it, others mostly use TH-cam
Cover mentioned some plans to do so a couple years ago when addressing any potential risks to their growth and operations. I think they called it something like “Holo Fan Club” or other. They were going to use it for the HoloSummer stuff so they wouldn’t have to deal with YT banning them for the swimsuit stuff. Haven’t heard much about it in quite a while though, not even sure if it even supported non-JP languages. Even if it does become a thing, most likely it would be exclusive to Hololive members
You think its cheap? Amazon is losing money on it and they have AWS for their servers for cheap
All because they fucked with the wrong damn guy.
I just want Twitch to evenly apply rules. Make categories so advertisers can choose who they associate with and evenly apply rules. the more neutral the platform the better.
Been saying this. Or at the very least have like an adult version of twitch or something like that.
I wonder what's going on at Kick and Rumble while Twitch is imploding?
There is zero chance Asmongold is actually going to a middle eastern country. Not even Israel.
Maybe the Overwatch League was ahead of its time when it decided to make TH-cam its official streaming platform instead of Twitch...
This has been a long time coming.
Twitch be twitching
Quaking their boots if i say so myself
JustinTV died a long time ago.
JustinTV is a Livestream service I have not heard in a hot minute.
When they do that, I wouldn’t be surprised if they do a 180 for vtubers and be like “hey, we know we did a lot of things to you people, but we’re changing the rules we had previously and even offering incentives for you so we cool”
Pandering to strangers who only crave toxic politics or tits isn't worth it. Sounds tiring.
I wouldn't quite put it like that about the Palestinians, but comparing their society with Israel's society, I have to agree with him. Compare the treatment of the LGBTQ community in both societies
One society is an apartheid state that has pissed off many countries outside the collective by literally bombing refugee camps.
Hence, I can see why people would be pissed of by Asmon's comments.
Next Wednesday is going to be interesting to watch and how all of these platforms respond.
Double standards of Twitch. Twitch been losing money
He can try going with Britannica, the guy's still alive so he knows what he's doing atleast.
My issue with TH-cam for streaming... Is that it seems impossible to search for good streams to watch. It's all dictated by the main channel, and that channel's content; without a regular channel and following, there's going to be no way for people to search you out to watch as a new streamer.
That's what I've observed, anyways.
Geeky sparkles where R u?
I used to stream on Twitch like 5 years ago. I used to stream ARMA 3, Warthunder and World of Tanks. I left the platform do to the changes of ToS and other shit. I feel bad and worry for a few of my friends who stream on twitch.
they realized they lose the same amount of money with & without Asmongold
I've heard people form that same area of the world say the same thing as he did that got him that ban.
Focus on Gaming and Fan Service only. Twitch needs to get back to basics and know who their real audience is.
Of course Twitch plays favorites. Amazon needs more money makers to fund their terrible Lord of the Rings fanfiction.
How can this be happening? I thought cancelling wasn't real.
If we're talking about really bias platform it must be Twitch. I mean they could change their ToS anytime on the fly to suits their own interest.
Goodbye Twitch...
HELLO Rumble...
Regardless of where you stand on the conflict, stay away from Mid-East.
Only go as far as India if you are into watching the Cricket but I would rather Asmondgold just stay away from anywhere that doesn't respect people's rights.
TH-cam is going full on politics on tubers it doesn't like. Twitch just sucks all around.
It’s so weird that yt deletes comments that mention the “green site” beginning with an R and rhymes with fumble. lol
Government backed funding forces them to ban anything that could be seen as opposition to the established power structure.
It's been their way to circumvent the first amendment over the last 20 or so years; the government can't suppress speech, but a "private company" can "create terms of service" and railroad you with them as if they were law.
I tried to sign up on Twitch in order to see more info about vtubers in that site, since some if not most vtubers are streaming lot on Twitch instead of TH-cam.
However, I encountered a problem. I couldn't sign up succesfully because the username was already exist, and the username in question is this. 👈
I gave up middle way after few attempts to find numbers for my username, and uninstalled Twitch since then.
And now, after seeing what Twitch has done to vtubers, I'm so thankful with Twitch for not allowing me to sign up since most of vtubers are migrating away from Twitch.
Amazon needs to get rid of Twitch's community moderatorators if it wants to save Twitch. They constantly ban anything not pushing agenda.
talking about asmongold essentially brings him to the video, having him the the thumbnail is more likely for him to show up and watch it, his audience will some how see this and bring it to his attention, crazier shit has happened
A video series like those workout videos on DVDs would be better than what Twitch has or the rules it is making these days.
Amazon will either try to save Twitch or dump it. There’s too much foolishness on that site like many others. We’ll see but I’m leaning more towards they’ll try to save it somehow.
7:36-8:25 Agreed. If there isn’t anything controversial or if there’s nothing attractive looking present most people won’t care.
Twitch would be a good addition to X/Twitter, sold at a bargain and retooled to match X/Twitter's terms of service.
I dont feel bad for twitch, I've been saying for years that a ad-pocalypse and that streamers should start creating a safety net on YT or on other streaming sites.
I was originally thinking of doing Twitch streaming a while back, but it's become more than obvious that the streaming platform's days are numbered. It DMCA purged numerous videos that content creators made over music copyright with some streamers having to do massive data backup just to save their videos before they were deleted. It's losing more money for Amazon than earning a profit, and with businesses possibly pulling out, Amazon is likely going to enact massive changes (maybe for the better) or just pull the plug on the platform altogether.
Kick or Rumble seems to be the safer path, at least for now.
I'm kinda concerned I do stream on twitch (art and gaming pretty much just for fun and to talk I don't really make much on it) but I know alot of vtubers that make a living on the platform so worried how they will manage if twitch goes belly up one thing I like about twitch is the interface and YT (or kick not sure on that interface) haven't really caught up with that interface
Twitch has a Prime channel and airs Thursday Night Football.
Twitch went from streaming games to Vice. Wtf.
The reason the audience has shifted away from games is because Twitch as a company stopped promoting games, and started promoting shock content, e-girls included.
This is 100% self-inflicted, so if Twitch goes down, it's solely the result of Twitch's own actions. If they'd stuck with gaming like the platform was meant to be, they wouldn't be in this position.
Justintv > twitch
Proof = justintv was hype 100% of its life
Leave it to politicians to conflate criticism with hatred. People abide censorship, until it happens to them or someone they like.
I'm not an Asmongold fan, never was, never will, but dude you should not die for some stupid twitter argument. Just clean your house and call it even. Maybe try a different streaming platform.
Literally the one time a tiny-hat politician has been right about something.
Never liked Twitch neither as a consumer or as a streamer. Good ridance.
Boycott Crunchyroll guys!
I remember when twitch got in trouble because people were illegally streaming sporting events & movies.
I've never used Twitch. Not out of dislike or anything just never did and from what I hear I dodged a bullet
But, where will all the kids get their softcore prawn from?
I stopped watching people on twitch, it's the live action equivalent of doomscrolling. No regrets so far whatsoever.
"TH-cam doesn't like it when you talk about the 'R' place."
More youtubers would be advised to keep a copy of their content on the "R" place because the chances of losing access to your own content if you tick off TH-cam one to many times is very high. Just ask MxR Plays.
Twitch is horrible. I dont really get why its so popular, but to be fair I dont really play video games anymore
To be fair, there are hardly any real video game content on Twitch. TH-cam provides better information about videogames. The only thing that Twitch does better is that its videos are less compressed so they look much better than TH-cam.
I would say good riddance to Twitch but I don't believe it is going anywhere.
After all, what ever happened to giving TikTok the boot?
It doesn't seem to have gone anywhere even after it was proven to be malware.
Here comes Elon Musk.
Tiktok and short form killed game streaming. Kids want to see you're best clips not 7 hour streams with a handful of great plays. They'd rather just watch those 10 thirty second clips of excitement over watching 7 hours of a stream waiting for those 10 great moments that last less a minute each.
To be fair, I doubt a vast majority of people who use Twitch actually sit down through entire streams. Or if they do it's because they have it on in the background while they do other things. It's just most obvious when kids leave because they have the most free time out of all age demographics.
Short-form as in edited content is okay, but Tiktok and TH-cam "shorts" is actively held back by having an absolutely neutered UI and nonexistent browsing / 'discovery' method other than just letting the mindless algorithm take the wheel.
I actually expect there to emerge more streaming platforms because with the generational shift legacy media is dying so all the energy of younger demographics has to go somewhere and thats online, Its just these platforms like Twitch are rather beta in nature having a single platform for everything I expect platforms to emerge with a tighter focus and monetization rather than hybrid gaming/commentary/politics/reaction thing we got going on now everywhere
I guess it depends on what you look at. When I'm on twitch it's to watch artists draw or paint. I have peeked in on Cohh and Ironmouse a few times, and my son is friends with a small time streamer. But, by and large, I don't like watching other people play video games; I would rather be playing a game, myself. But NONE of them are political or allow political discussion in their chats. So, I don't see these problems, because they're not in the parts of the platform that I ever look at.
Getting banned from the old faithful Twitch is what all the exciting streamers do. I think the neighborhood ghoul was looking at some numbers and realized it would be better to stream elsewhere. This all feels phoned in. Like the first one was.
Esports have their own platforms which are better and offers loot for watching. Twitch are outmatched due to size .
He shouldn't have apologized.
Step one to saving twitch: Make Musk an offer.
As a mobile artist user. I don’t like twitch because well you can’t steam with your phone just like discord can stream on your phone share screen way. Sorry twitch this is what happens you dont listen to people wants
Whatever you do, kids - don't you go around telling the truth about anything on social media! Big Brother doesn't like any opinion they don't endorse and regulate!
Amazon should throw more money at Twitch like they are doing to Rings of Power
I miss the era of IceWallowCome