Thank you again, for more great advice. I think I understand most of it. I'm not entirely sure what Strain Threshold is for. Do you talk about this in another video? I get that on a standard roll, the players get a - 1 to their strain threshold and a - 2 if they are the targeted play, but is that true whatever their obligation is, or does it vary? And what does strain threshold do?
@@JoeLawson-po8zp I think I talk about it in my wounds and healing video in the beginners guide series. Tldr: it's a mental health / stress bar. Things like threat on a check can potentially add strain. If the threshold is passed, the character is incapacitated.
I played an exiled political character who had no fighting ability but a silver tongue My brother played my battle droid bodyguard who had no ability to talk but max fighting ability. Tons of fun
Notes on character creation: It can be 15 words which express a look, a job, and a motive. A Corellian wrench who’s looking to fix swoops, fix races, and fixates on spice. Boom, build it. A heavily scarred Duro’s Marshall who’s hurting down the imperial remnant. Boom, build it. A Zabrak tough that spies on everyone trying to get off world.
The character I am trying to make is an experimental battle droid made just before the deactivation command was given for the battle droids of the Clone Wars. After being dug out of the abandoned Techno Union facility, he's spent the past few years bouncing from owner to owner, stuck with a restraining bolt lodged onto him, until, eventually, he met an owner who turned out to be a kind Rebel. The minor cell he was apart of, a six man team in total, removed his bolt and kind of treated him like Chopper is treated by the team in rebels. (I'm using Echo's droid disguise from the Bad Batch as inspiration, as well as the fanon B4). The rebel cell gets exterminated by imperials, and despite my murder-droid wanting to die with his latest owner, he is instead sent off with what was left of the cell's data to escape and deliver it to rebel high command with the final command, "Never stop fighting."
Glad to be of service!! Best of luck this session 0! The final part of character creation comes out Wednesday, so you may need to walk them through Attributes, Gear, and Group Resource!
This was a nice little recap, even though it’s all stuff I know already, it’s good to hear succinct summaries. Something I would be pretty keen to see in an upcoming video though, I’d love to see you explaining increasing or lowering obligation after each session, they only really handwave it in the EOTE core book, it’s not the greatest examples you’ll ever see.
I’m trying to make a sith and a jedi and with the Jedi it would have clothes like windu obi wan and anakin with bright red hair and the sith would have black clothing with a black cape have a red and green saber
I build my characters a bit backwards. I start with Career and Specialization and focus on what Career Skills I'll inherit and decide what Characteristics I'll need. At that point, what Race that gives me the most optimal build (I love using Devaronians for Seekers because Seekers never need Presence). At that point I jot down all mechanical crunch from Race and Career/Spec. I'll then plot out where I'll likely put Dedication when I get to each, often planning 4 or 5 different Specs well in advance which tells me if I'm spending exp on Characteristics. Once that's done, I'll spend a little exp on skills and Specs, rarely Talents since with my CharGen stats even succeeding on checks harder than average is questionable. From there, it's Force Powers, if any apply, until the last of my exp is used up. Now I spend credits on gear, Armour and weapons. And finally I do the narrative fluff at the end. I like systems where the physical stats and gear on my character have to come from somewhere, but where? Do I have alot of grenades and pistols? Maybe I'm an outer rim Bounty hunter or republic soldier? Did I take jedi robes? Am I saving those precious 500cr to spend on repairing hull trauma, that will inevitably happen to my ship? Motivation, Morality, Background stuff all covered, and that's my char-gen.
Wait, the Morality Bonuses are free? I know in EotE you can choose to get additional starting credits for a higher Obligation value, but in FaD you can just get those credits or free?
Obligation effects strain because whatever he is obligated to is mentally taxing on the character. Not sure on duty or wounds 😂 maybe extra motivated to the duty means they push past their normal boundaries idk.
How do you recommend mixing EoE characters and AoR characters in terms of duty and obligation? Do you stick to one system? Have respective characters have their appropriate system? Have characters have both? I am curious in general, but also for my game I am looking at a Rebellion focused game but allowing characters from either EoE or AoR to form a special squad to do the jobs the Rebels can't or won't easily; think Bad Batch, the Expendables, the Dirty Dozen, the A-Team, etc. They are working with the Rebels, but they might have their own private things going on as well.
I will just choose which one is more relevant to the story and just have all players use the same thing. For your Rebellion story I imagine just all players using Duty. The only one I'll mix and match is Morality.
Could you have duty and obligation ? Could you take background or obligation of one book with another book. Or do I had to choose all in the same book ? I buy both kit for edge of empire and force and destiny, with two core edge of empire and age of rebellion. Thanks
So, since no tutorial ever mentioned the insanely obvious thing: at the beginning of the session, when the players roll the Force die to determine the starting destiny points...is it 1 point per player or the amount they roll? Casue the Force die has 1 or 2 pips on it. Do players roll for light-dark only or the amount as well? Will DM+3 player party have 3 Destiny points or the amount they roll?
I mentioned it in the Destiny point video, but if a player rolls 2 pips then it's 2 destiny points from the one roll. So if there are 4players there will be between 4-8 destiny points possible.
When I played a version of this you couldn't be a sith or Jedi because, the empire had fallen and the story took place like 25 years you can say after episode 6 in the Star wars films. You would have to find them in game to get any training to be Jedi or sith. The empire had broken up into factions .There were no known whereabouts of other force wilders.
Sounds like a different Star Wars role-playing game or just how your GM decided to run it I guess. This game default time period is during the original trilogy, but you can really play it whenever.
that rolling doubles on obligations is extremely unfair, in your example player 1 can't have any doubles, player 2, for only 5 extra obligation suffers two chances at doubles, player three gets two and player four even though they have the same obligation as player 3 only gets one. so 0-2-2-1 it's entirely based on player order. should you count a 01 as double? do you have to put obligations ending in 5 last? i'm sure there's a way to fix it but it seems like a stupid tacked-on rule for obligations to begin with.
Obligation and Duty....this kinda sounds similar to Chaos factor and threads maybe, from the me myself and die youtube series? Is that a decent comparison?
hey man, i want to get into it, what books should i buy? im into legends so was thinking only edge of the empire (im new but from what i could see thats the only legends one?)
Check out the first video of the series. It goes through what you can find in each book :) It's really up to you. Do you want Outer Rim adventures? EotE. Jedi Sith? FaD. Rebels? AoR.
@@TheTabletopEmpire Thank you for this. I looked into it and picked up some books I have been interested in the Genesys system for a few years now but stayed away due to FFG shuttering.
It's not an insult to the players. Most new to any system don't read the book beforehand and therefore need handholding through Character Creation. Not saying they are stupid. In my 20 something PCs I've had, I've needed to handhold all but one through their first characters.
@@TheTabletopEmpire Ok, so then if the party has some Obligation and some Duty, do the beginning of game rolls (-strain or +thresholds) affect all players in the party, or just the ones that have that type?
I want to know when ur dm says to all ur stats starts with a d4 wat the fuck does that mean does that mean u role a d4 die and between 1 thu 4 that's ur starting stat or Is 4 ur starting stat on all stats
What kind of character do you want to play?
Shorter list is what kind of character do I not want to play?
A demolition specialist who is a Hutt with a fun, redemptive backstory.
Need irl friends to play with, I still find the kind of Hans Bounter Hunter Char in Edge of Empire Times most interesting of all atm
Thank you again, for more great advice. I think I understand most of it. I'm not entirely sure what Strain Threshold is for. Do you talk about this in another video? I get that on a standard roll, the players get a - 1 to their strain threshold and a - 2 if they are the targeted play, but is that true whatever their obligation is, or does it vary? And what does strain threshold do?
@@JoeLawson-po8zp I think I talk about it in my wounds and healing video in the beginners guide series.
Tldr: it's a mental health / stress bar. Things like threat on a check can potentially add strain. If the threshold is passed, the character is incapacitated.
I played an exiled political character who had no fighting ability but a silver tongue
My brother played my battle droid bodyguard who had no ability to talk but max fighting ability. Tons of fun
Notes on character creation: It can be 15 words which express a look, a job, and a motive. A Corellian wrench who’s looking to fix swoops, fix races, and fixates on spice. Boom, build it. A heavily scarred Duro’s Marshall who’s hurting down the imperial remnant. Boom, build it. A Zabrak tough that spies on everyone trying to get off world.
100% This is a great way to look at it!
@@TheTabletopEmpirenew books this year ?
The character I am trying to make is an experimental battle droid made just before the deactivation command was given for the battle droids of the Clone Wars. After being dug out of the abandoned Techno Union facility, he's spent the past few years bouncing from owner to owner, stuck with a restraining bolt lodged onto him, until, eventually, he met an owner who turned out to be a kind Rebel. The minor cell he was apart of, a six man team in total, removed his bolt and kind of treated him like Chopper is treated by the team in rebels. (I'm using Echo's droid disguise from the Bad Batch as inspiration, as well as the fanon B4). The rebel cell gets exterminated by imperials, and despite my murder-droid wanting to die with his latest owner, he is instead sent off with what was left of the cell's data to escape and deliver it to rebel high command with the final command,
"Never stop fighting."
I am loving seeing the potential this rpg have
This is an excellent guide ty for this. I've been playing RPGs years and I still struggle figuring out Character Creation!
I'm having a session zero this Sunday so I'm sending this to my players. Thanks my dude!
Glad to be of service!! Best of luck this session 0! The final part of character creation comes out Wednesday, so you may need to walk them through Attributes, Gear, and Group Resource!
Awesome explanation on Morality....you clarified alot for me!
Happy to have been a help! Thanks :)
This was a nice little recap, even though it’s all stuff I know already, it’s good to hear succinct summaries.
Something I would be pretty keen to see in an upcoming video though, I’d love to see you explaining increasing or lowering obligation after each session, they only really handwave it in the EOTE core book, it’s not the greatest examples you’ll ever see.
ill at least cover it in its own video at some point if it doesnt make it into this series!
I did something like this before, I was a soldier sensitive to the force. Strong but not trained.
I’m trying to make a sith and a jedi and with the Jedi it would have clothes like windu obi wan and anakin with bright red hair and the sith would have black clothing with a black cape have a red and green saber
I build my characters a bit backwards.
I start with Career and Specialization and focus on what Career Skills I'll inherit and decide what Characteristics I'll need. At that point, what Race that gives me the most optimal build (I love using Devaronians for Seekers because Seekers never need Presence).
At that point I jot down all mechanical crunch from Race and Career/Spec.
I'll then plot out where I'll likely put Dedication when I get to each, often planning 4 or 5 different Specs well in advance which tells me if I'm spending exp on Characteristics.
Once that's done, I'll spend a little exp on skills and Specs, rarely Talents since with my CharGen stats even succeeding on checks harder than average is questionable.
From there, it's Force Powers, if any apply, until the last of my exp is used up.
Now I spend credits on gear, Armour and weapons.
And finally I do the narrative fluff at the end. I like systems where the physical stats and gear on my character have to come from somewhere, but where? Do I have alot of grenades and pistols? Maybe I'm an outer rim Bounty hunter or republic soldier? Did I take jedi robes? Am I saving those precious 500cr to spend on repairing hull trauma, that will inevitably happen to my ship?
Motivation, Morality, Background stuff all covered, and that's my char-gen.
There is no just 1 good way to do it :) That sounds like another effective method!
13:31 It's actually Ambition, Cause, and Relationship in EotE.
Yeah, slightly different, but still works the same way :)
Wait, the Morality Bonuses are free? I know in EotE you can choose to get additional starting credits for a higher Obligation value, but in FaD you can just get those credits or free?
Yeah, it's a bit different than Obl/Duty like that haha
I don't think I understand why Obligation and Duty effect the player's strain/wound threshold at the beginning of sessions?
Obligation effects strain because whatever he is obligated to is mentally taxing on the character.
Not sure on duty or wounds 😂 maybe extra motivated to the duty means they push past their normal boundaries idk.
How do you recommend mixing EoE characters and AoR characters in terms of duty and obligation? Do you stick to one system? Have respective characters have their appropriate system? Have characters have both? I am curious in general, but also for my game I am looking at a Rebellion focused game but allowing characters from either EoE or AoR to form a special squad to do the jobs the Rebels can't or won't easily; think Bad Batch, the Expendables, the Dirty Dozen, the A-Team, etc. They are working with the Rebels, but they might have their own private things going on as well.
I will just choose which one is more relevant to the story and just have all players use the same thing. For your Rebellion story I imagine just all players using Duty.
The only one I'll mix and match is Morality.
Could you have duty and obligation ? Could you take background or obligation of one book with another book. Or do I had to choose all in the same book ? I buy both kit for edge of empire and force and destiny, with two core edge of empire and age of rebellion. Thanks
I would recommend against it. If I mix the books, I pick Duty OR Obligation, and if they are a Force user then I use morality on top of that.
Nice shirt I got the same one!
That's awesome!
So, since no tutorial ever mentioned the insanely obvious thing: at the beginning of the session, when the players roll the Force die to determine the starting destiny points...is it 1 point per player or the amount they roll? Casue the Force die has 1 or 2 pips on it. Do players roll for light-dark only or the amount as well? Will DM+3 player party have 3 Destiny points or the amount they roll?
I mentioned it in the Destiny point video, but if a player rolls 2 pips then it's 2 destiny points from the one roll. So if there are 4players there will be between 4-8 destiny points possible.
@@TheTabletopEmpire ahh, cool stuff. Videos are on loop for a week, dunno how I missed that one out. Thanks.
Is there a way, I can play as Dark side user and it give "benefits" to me and access to "Dark Side" Specialty and Talents? 😆😆😆😆
You can play as a dark side force user :)
When I played a version of this you couldn't be a sith or Jedi because, the empire had fallen and the story took place like 25 years you can say after episode 6 in the Star wars films. You would have to find them in game to get any training to be Jedi or sith. The empire had broken up into factions .There were no known whereabouts of other force wilders.
Sounds like a different Star Wars role-playing game or just how your GM decided to run it I guess. This game default time period is during the original trilogy, but you can really play it whenever.
that rolling doubles on obligations is extremely unfair, in your example player 1 can't have any doubles, player 2, for only 5 extra obligation suffers two chances at doubles, player three gets two and player four even though they have the same obligation as player 3 only gets one. so 0-2-2-1 it's entirely based on player order. should you count a 01 as double? do you have to put obligations ending in 5 last? i'm sure there's a way to fix it but it seems like a stupid tacked-on rule for obligations to begin with.
It is an optional rule the GM can decide to use or not. I typically don't use the doubles rule.
Obligation and Duty....this kinda sounds similar to Chaos factor and threads maybe, from the me myself and die youtube series? Is that a decent comparison?
I am not familiar with that series 😅
Super
Thanks!
hey man, i want to get into it, what books should i buy? im into legends so was thinking only edge of the empire (im new but from what i could see thats the only legends one?)
Check out the first video of the series. It goes through what you can find in each book :) It's really up to you.
Do you want Outer Rim adventures? EotE. Jedi Sith? FaD. Rebels? AoR.
I very much want to play a hacker Ewok who makes a lot of traps and has probes.
Didn't FFG stop producing this? I looked into it some time ago but the dice are tricky to find for a sit down group.
Havent checked in a month or two but they just had dice in stock
It is now being published by EDGE Studio / Asmodee
@@TheTabletopEmpire Thank you for this. I looked into it and picked up some books I have been interested in the Genesys system for a few years now but stayed away due to FFG shuttering.
I would link this to the players for help with making their character but it clearly insults them at the start of the video so sadly I cant.
It's not an insult to the players. Most new to any system don't read the book beforehand and therefore need handholding through Character Creation. Not saying they are stupid.
In my 20 something PCs I've had, I've needed to handhold all but one through their first characters.
What or who is the character in the thumbnail?
Just a cool variation of Darth Vader I found
So is this like a table too game? Kinda like dungeons and dragons or warhammer? I probably wouldn’t play this, I’m honestly just curious.
Yeah its like a Star Wars D&D
Can a character have an obligation and duty?
Technically yes, but it's not ideal.
Typically for mixing and matching I'd do Duty OR obligation, and then conflict as well for force users.
@@TheTabletopEmpire Ok, so then if the party has some Obligation and some Duty, do the beginning of game rolls (-strain or +thresholds) affect all players in the party, or just the ones that have that type?
It's already a homebrewed situation, so however you as the GM want to do it or think is the best way :)
I sent my players here. They told me that its too long for them to watch and they will pay me to watch it for them...
Oof
But it's 14 minutes....
A mere 5 page backstory? talk about quiet quitting during character creation. I demand a Novella from each Player! LOL (kidding of course)
I've had that GM not sarcasticly haha
This video made me not want to play. 😂
What about it made you feel that way?
I want to know when ur dm says to all ur stats starts with a d4 wat the fuck does that mean does that mean u role a d4 die and between 1 thu 4 that's ur starting stat or Is 4 ur starting stat on all stats
That must be a house rule of his, because that isnt even remotely in the book
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