I appreciate your videos a lot. This is one issue I have been working through lately. It crystallized when you said, “we know who big ag is…”. Yes, we do. Yes, we DO. Thanks.
While I don't disagree with you, I would argue that there are plenty of non-Trumper farmers to support first and foremost. Especially Black and Brown farmers who historically whose labor have kept us fed while being exploited themselves.
Very true, I think it matters a LOT where folks live. I got tons of feedback from my first video that folks in red states didn't really have any option. But you are absolutely right that we should prioritize Black farmers in our community for many, many reasons.
I’m less knowledgeable than most viewers of this channel; I truly did not really understand the historical BLATANT discrimination against b/b farmers until I watched Trevor Noah’s upload about the history of black farmers in America. I sent it to a few MAGAish people I knew who also seemed receptive and surprised (this was a few years ago, maybe 2021?). Thank you for these uploads!
I'm in a very blue area but a lot of our produce comes from areas that are very Republican. Besides that, if I go to the farmers market, a lot of the farmers there are small immigrant farmers, Lao or Mexican or Filipino. A century ago they would have been Japanese, but, well, Roosevelt took care of that. Anyway, it's so hard to get food here that isn't associated with trumpers that I sort of lit that go and shop at the farmers market when I can, and buy from the immigrant farmers.
I live in the reddest county in an extremely red state. It's hard to get away from ANY dumpfire people. That being said, I have a young man who hunts my land. Each year he gets a deer for me which I process myself, and one for his family. We have reached a wary truce. We don't talk politics, we're cordial, and don't interact much.
read something in the project 2025 thing about them wanting to get rid of small time farmers and replace all of it with corporate mega farms. well see how well that goes
I thought they were already doing that! The 'wanting' part, I mean. I drive across across the central valley (California) several times a month, and I can assure you that unless you're growing a mega-crop with huge equipment, imported bees, and rigid timescales, you're not going to come to their notice. But on both sides of the valley, all the way up and down the road, there are (some VERY) small farms, with fruit and veggie stands- some well built and permanent, and others with just a table and a shade tarp over it. If these families can make a living growing food this way in the belly of the beast, then anyone growing in residential areas should be safe, and for a long time.
In rural Oklahoma it would be nearly impossible to support local businesses if I ruled out all who voted for Trump. However, there are two businesses in my small town that went off my list early in the pandemic. The butcher I used to patronize made some horribly racist comments about Chinese people. They have always had Fox News playing on their television which was bad enough but that was the final straw for me. It's a similar story for a health food store I used to love. I do, however, like to support our local farmers market and I simply do not want to know who those farmers voted for.
Yep...overt trumpets are a hard no from me. Most business owners are smart enough not to mix politics with business because you don't know whose business you could be losing.
Right now in Florida it's winter strawberry season. I live in a rural community (there are farms with strawberries surrounding me). Late December to mid March is strawberry season here. Something we look forward to. Plus I freeze a lot for use out of season. I've always been in contact with a couple of small farms that produce meat and will be buying some soon. More $ than the grocery store, but my goal is to support small and local businesses.
You bring up such a good point. After moving to the Gulf Coast, I would still rather eat shrimp from the gulf here in Florida. I went to a few chain grocers when I first got here and imagined the shrimp was local. It was from a farm in India. Nothing against India but why? I'd rather buy it from a guy in a truck on the corner now. I'm so happy with the possibility of having more local food all year than when I was in the far north.
Gulf shrimp is wild caught in most cases whereas imported is often farmed so just all the more reason to aim for gulf/closer option. Even Walmart often has gulf shrimp too so these kinds of swaps can be done even if limited in budget, availability, etc.
I am in southern Indiana also. In the country but met a neighbor who stopped to talk to me while I was putting out my Harris sign. She is my a age, a bid Dem and we have become friends. There are a few of us in Indiana 😉
@@WillowEtain Complete pain in the butt is absolutely correct. Even after 8+ years of Trump and maga I will never be able to wrap my mind around this cult
I’m struggling with a chiropractor that I can hear from his lobby bragging about supporting a serial grapist. I would be ok with him if he just didn’t say it so loud and proud. It’s like a big red flag going against my codependency recovery even if my insurance covers it.
@@KAMZA. I doubt it. It’s not easy to trust someone with my health in that way. I have to relax enough for the adjustments to work or not cause me harm.
I am lucky. I have a local butcher/smokehouse very close to me. He raises the beef and has Amish grown chickens. He also smokes his own hams and makes kielbasa and sausages. Yes, it's more than supermarket meat, but the quality is so much better.
I am so supportive of seasonal eating! My neighbor is a Trumper, but she runs our local online food market. I still buy from her because its opportunity for a conversation. She knows I'm queer and a Democrat, I'm not quiet about it. So we get a chance to chat and change minds.
There are permies that aren't progressive, some are libertarian and, yes, some support Trump. Maybe there's some who missed the #unity movement that largely moved into #maha. Who are now the bigger supporters for regenerative ag. These changes in the national political scene are less about political divisions than farmer/worker vs corporate corruption and big ag. The Amish might have been the swing votes for Pennsylvania, while in my state they will be most of the producers for the Food as Medicine program I'm leading, which in another county a similar program may have produce from non-white gay permies. The political divisions have, and are continuing to shift. I don't think where I live is any different than most other places - things change.
I love going to my local farmer's market, it feels like the community comes together to support each other and be able to interact with each other without politics. It makes us an actual community instead of pitting neighbors against each other
Totally agree. We support local farmers for our meat and grow a large garden for eating throughout the year, both fresh and preserved. We hope to start raising chickens this spring. We enjoy having our food grown close to where we live and knowing the people who grow and tend what we personally are not growing for all the reasons you mentioned. Thanks for sharing your perspective!
This isn't precisely what you were talking about (food); we've been going to a particular car mechanic for over two decades now. He's scrupulously honest, and incredibly patient with explaining things as needed, and takes excellent care of our cars -- even to the point of telling us when we'd be smarter to go to someone else for an issue. We bring him goodies every christmas, and sympathized supportively during the time he was really worried about his wife's battle with cancer (she's 7 years cancer-free this year!), and consider him a good friend. We were shocked to discover he voted for Trump... but after talking it over privately later, we decided to continue going to him. He's kind, generous, hardworking, honest, and a really decent man, even if we disagree on some political issues. I would rather be there for him, should he or his wife fall ill again, you know? I don't know if that makes me a hypocrite, or what... but those are my thoughts.
@@chrisdonovan8795 That's my thought too. Analyzing why some places make me uncomfortable, & I stop going there: political garbage on their walls, chatting/bragging about the election, anger at mention of democrats, etc. My mechanic friend doesn't do any of that.
I'm the winter where i live, there's no local produce. But as soon as it starts showing up at the farm stands, I buy from them. Also I'm trying hard to support my local egg farmers becAuse their prices are not much higher than at the grocery store and I know their business is more ethical.
I won't support tRumpers, esp. if I know or have a good sense of their position. This was a great video to stimulate reflection. We're fortunate to live where we do in California. I have a garden, access to local farmers, and employee owned and small nurseries. Awesome exercise.
Thank you for this! I've been struggling. When it comes to stuff I need, I can overlook the individual voting for Trump as long as their practices are ethical. If it's stuff I don't need, I would rather do without.
This year, I’m eating animal Products from my neighbor farmer as much as possible. And I’ve decided to eat only plants that I grow on my food forest - only when in season. That means I’m carnivore now in winter, and will eat plants only when in season. I’m building community around the food forest, and bartering for cheese, sourdough bread and honey. I don’t care about the farmers and bartering partners politics. Agree with you. Also, how can you influence someone with different political views if you avoid them and only surround yourself with people who think just like you?
What is the cost of a whole lamb such as you are showing & would you ever show us how you prepare a meal & where the ingredients came from? I am intrigued.
For the most part, I’ve always supported local farmers and small businesses. Unless there’s no other option and I’m in desperate need, I will not support a Yambo supporter’s business or patronize one that allows their Yambo devotees to exhibit such loyalty. I vote with my dollars daily along with my semi-annual vote in the booth. I also live in a very rural area so this isn’t always easy to accomplish.
100% everything you said. For me, I wait all year for cherry season. It's short, just four to six weeks for peak ripeness. And if we get rain too soon it ruins some of the crop. I go to the farmers market and buy lots of cherries--every week. I've had quite a few stomach aches, but I don't care. I never buy them out of season or non-local because they just aren't as good. Same with stone fruits--OMG we have fabulous peaches and apricots--tomatoes, and oddly collard greens in the fall. One of the best things about California is the fresh produce. As to the local vs. Trumper, I think local trumps Trump. I agree, I don't ask. Here's what I've decided. Local, sustainable agriculture and business is more important than anything corporate because when capitalism eventually implodes all we will have is each other. When it all falls apart they will all have learned their difficult lessons, but we will still need each other. Best to not have burned all our bridges.
I am so lucky to have a family farm across the street, complete with farm store and local honey. During their season I buy what I can from them exclusively. During the off season I'm part of a co-op which pulls from the whole metro area
While we had chickens, we fed them the best food around (non gmo local grain) and there was (is) only 1 farm that had it. They were very lovely people and very knowledgeable. Trumpers nonetheless. We chose to not make it an issue.
I love fruit, especially grapes. The ones coming from the other end of the world just don’t taste as good as the ones in season coming north from California. I even notice a drop in quality near the end of the season. So when the grapes come in, I gorge myself, lol. I try to eat mostly food from Washington and Oregon too (I’m in the west PDX suburbs). I’d imagine most of the local small farmers who care about raising their animals and crops ethically probably aren’t Trumpers, but who knows? I grew up in the California Central Valley, so I went to school with farm kids and my dad wrote insurance policies for a lot of family farms back in the day. I can’t help making a distinction between real family farmers and the ones who are large landowners whose “farming” consists primarily of overseeing the migrant workers who do the real work. I’ve seen stories of them freaking out because much of their work force is at risk of being deported, or going home to avoid the risk of their families being split up if they wait, and I can’t muster up much sympathy since they’re probably the ones who voted Trump.
It's Almost impossible to convince people the value of co-ops, if its not directly demonstrated? Much akin to "parenting" ... "Live the talk, walk the walk" is the Most Effective Teaching... Full Stop.
Yeah, agreed. it's impossible For me to shop local and seasonal without buying from Trumpers because I live in a red state. Extremely lucky that my tiny town has itty bitty farmer grocery store. The owner lets people volunteer in exchange for free produce.
I love this, thanks for this video! We live in rural Nova Scotia and we do our best to grow what can and to buy from our farmer friends. I think buying from local small producers is more important than their individual politics - of course politics aren't quite as polarizing up here as it is for you folks, lol - even our most conservative people would likely be considered "radical left" by a Trumper. For me, local beats everything, even organic, to be honest. If I can buy local organic, I do. If it is a choice between local non-organic and organic from far away, I choose local. I buy Nova Scotian whetever possible, and Canadian when not. For health and food safety reasons, I won't buy meat or dairy from the US.
I'm onboard with local support, lower prices, peak flavor and reducing carbon footprints, but I wonder if there can be an impact on nutrition when engaging in strict seasonal eating practices. This might have a larger impact when people live in an extreme climate. Of course people will survive, but is it optimal from a nutritional viewpoint if their local sources aren't as nutritionally diverse? This ties into issues about whether or not a region is worth inhabiting due to an environment that isn't conducive to agriculture for some reason. As for supporting people who differ politically.... My gut reaction is to hurt them, but do I really want their family to suffer? No.
I remember reading a book about the 1920s iirc, which quoted an older person in that time, who said people used to be sickly in the winter from the lack of fruit and vegetables to eat. I think the chapter was discussing the rise of refrigerated transport and the increase in home refrigerators, and how it changed eating habits. And when you compare the overall health of the generation that grew up during the Depression to those who grew up in the 1950s and 60s as they age, the ones who grew up better nourished seem to be aging better/healthier. I don’t know how much of that is better nutrition when they were growing up, and how much is medical advances. The difference between my grandmother and my mother and aunt healthwise is like night and day. I feel like the health of twenty- and thirtysomethings is getting poorer, and I wonder how much of that is from being raised on chicken nuggets, Lunchables, Kid Cuisine, and soda pop.
I'm definitely not strictly seasonal : I freeze and can and dehydrate a LOT of food. And definitely I don't want to encourage pedantry and disordered eating.
@@ParkrosePermaculture I get it. I can be a very rigid person, and there's a price to be paid for that. There's a lot to be said for doing the best you can in many situations.
... A lot of my friends started out as coworkers in the retail nursery business, various vendors for big box and small box customers, it's a small world in a big metroplex, we all know, see and talk about each other at the various stores, surprisingly i used to hang out with a lot of these people and considered quite a few of them friends, in the time since Covid I dropped about a dozen of them over what some would call political differences, I would call morals, there are few of the maga leaning that some of us still refer to as friends, I know i want to be there because I think they will recognize the shyt when it bubbles up, I think they are good people who followed a fool and realize it, or will...
flat out wrong; ive worked too many ag jobs with trumpets as bosses; i will not and do NOT recommend supporting these businesses as they are always the worst for worker rights and abuse. we already know they dont support their communities when shtf; the last few yrs have taught some of you nothing, this channel included. kingsolver is a great read but nowhere near that important, fiction or otherwise. thinking you will have control over a farmer is out of touch at best, along with not understanding that what they sell is NOT always from their farm. again-an actual ag worker with exp on organic and conventional farms.
You obviously haven't eaten Tennessee's "GMO Tomatoes. They are grown in Granger TN, and are tasteless crap. I am from the north and being used to home grown tomatoes, I went to visit my friend in TN. She had to take me to the "Tomato" festival there. It was awful.
There's rarely only one local person selling what you want, so it's easier not to support the people who voted to cause harm to everyone. No, I won't support trumpers.
I think it really depends on where you live because I got tons of feedback on the initial video from folks in red areas that there is no alternative if you are going to shop local: everyone is a tr*mper.
Those folks are our neighbors. Jesus had a few words about that. And remember, a kind word can open a heart. An open heart is fertile ground for a seed to be planted in. Be kind, even it is not appreciated or returned. Our actions reveal our character. Perfection is not possible, just keep trying. Be deliberate in your kindness.
Umm, if everyone steals from the grocery stores, they will be empty within a week, then all closed down fast. Many people don’t realize the stores usually only have less than a weeks worth of groceries for their community
locla liquor store threw trump flags at the entrance then tried to charge me (a POC) $3 for a snickers. havent had a beer or a snickers in over a year; never going back lol but you're right farmers markets are underrated gems
And when you are so poor you can't afford this? I mean really poor, "I can only afford a happy meal for my kid today, I hope I can afford groceries next week." Do you have a video about this issue, the lack of a decent social safety net? (edit that came off very negative, what you suggest is very reasonable if you can afford it. I was only bothered because you seemed to imply everyone should be doing this, not 'people who can'.)
I never implied that everybody should be doing this. Are you new to my content? You might enjoy my video on "good, better, best" or any of my videos on local food economies and doing what is accessible to you.
I harbor an odd plan to raise geese and ducks because I read they can lay eggs from eating nothing more than grass and also drying clothes on a clothesline in the sun. But I'm a feared the neighbors will report my nefarious activities and big brotha come marching down to pick me up???
@ParkrosePermaculture sweeping categorization and dehumanizations of groups of people. That isn't helpful tp anyone. Anyway, it's your perogative, lots of other channels out there.
I appreciate your videos a lot. This is one issue I have been working through lately. It crystallized when you said, “we know who big ag is…”. Yes, we do. Yes, we DO. Thanks.
While I don't disagree with you, I would argue that there are plenty of non-Trumper farmers to support first and foremost. Especially Black and Brown farmers who historically whose labor have kept us fed while being exploited themselves.
Very true, I think it matters a LOT where folks live. I got tons of feedback from my first video that folks in red states didn't really have any option. But you are absolutely right that we should prioritize Black farmers in our community for many, many reasons.
I really wish that were true in the very red state of Oklahoma. If I'm wrong, and you have farmers to recommend here, I'd love to know.
I’m less knowledgeable than most viewers of this channel; I truly did not really understand the historical BLATANT discrimination against b/b farmers until I watched Trevor Noah’s upload about the history of black farmers in America. I sent it to a few MAGAish people I knew who also seemed receptive and surprised (this was a few years ago, maybe 2021?). Thank you for these uploads!
I will not be shopping with Trumpers. But I am privileged as I'm in a very blue area.
I'm in a very blue area but a lot of our produce comes from areas that are very Republican. Besides that, if I go to the farmers market, a lot of the farmers there are small immigrant farmers, Lao or Mexican or Filipino. A century ago they would have been Japanese, but, well, Roosevelt took care of that. Anyway, it's so hard to get food here that isn't associated with trumpers that I sort of lit that go and shop at the farmers market when I can, and buy from the immigrant farmers.
I live in the reddest county in an extremely red state. It's hard to get away from ANY dumpfire people. That being said, I have a young man who hunts my land. Each year he gets a deer for me which I process myself, and one for his family.
We have reached a wary truce. We don't talk politics, we're cordial, and don't interact much.
read something in the project 2025 thing about them wanting to get rid of small time farmers and replace all of it with corporate mega farms. well see how well that goes
I thought they were already doing that! The 'wanting' part, I mean. I drive across across the central valley (California) several times a month, and I can assure you that unless you're growing a mega-crop with huge equipment, imported bees, and rigid timescales, you're not going to come to their notice. But on both sides of the valley, all the way up and down the road, there are (some VERY) small farms, with fruit and veggie stands- some well built and permanent, and others with just a table and a shade tarp over it.
If these families can make a living growing food this way in the belly of the beast, then anyone growing in residential areas should be safe, and for a long time.
In rural Oklahoma it would be nearly impossible to support local businesses if I ruled out all who voted for Trump. However, there are two businesses in my small town that went off my list early in the pandemic. The butcher I used to patronize made some horribly racist comments about Chinese people. They have always had Fox News playing on their television which was bad enough but that was the final straw for me. It's a similar story for a health food store I used to love. I do, however, like to support our local farmers market and I simply do not want to know who those farmers voted for.
Yep...overt trumpets are a hard no from me. Most business owners are smart enough not to mix politics with business because you don't know whose business you could be losing.
Luckily for me I find it easy to avoid Kamala supporters here in Oklahoma
Right now in Florida it's winter strawberry season. I live in a rural community (there are farms with strawberries surrounding me). Late December to mid March is strawberry season here. Something we look forward to. Plus I freeze a lot for use out of season. I've always been in contact with a couple of small farms that produce meat and will be buying some soon. More $ than the grocery store, but my goal is to support small and local businesses.
You bring up such a good point. After moving to the Gulf Coast, I would still rather eat shrimp from the gulf here in Florida. I went to a few chain grocers when I first got here and imagined the shrimp was local. It was from a farm in India. Nothing against India but why? I'd rather buy it from a guy in a truck on the corner now. I'm so happy with the possibility of having more local food all year than when I was in the far north.
Gulf shrimp is wild caught in most cases whereas imported is often farmed so just all the more reason to aim for gulf/closer option. Even Walmart often has gulf shrimp too so these kinds of swaps can be done even if limited in budget, availability, etc.
I live in deep red Indiana and I am not giving my money to trumpers.
I am in southern Indiana also. In the country but met a neighbor who stopped to talk to me while I was putting out my Harris sign. She is my a age, a bid Dem and we have become friends. There are a few of us in Indiana 😉
@ I’m up in Anderson and not everyone is a trumper but enough to be a complete pain in the butt
@@WillowEtain Complete pain in the butt is absolutely correct. Even after 8+ years of Trump and maga I will never be able to wrap my mind around this cult
One day I’ll have a huge freezer and pantry.we have a local coffee bean roaster and I bought everyone coffee beans.great video:)
I’m struggling with a chiropractor that I can hear from his lobby bragging about supporting a serial grapist. I would be ok with him if he just didn’t say it so loud and proud. It’s like a big red flag going against my codependency recovery even if my insurance covers it.
Is it possible for you to address this with the chiropractor?
The chiropractor actually has to touch and move your body in a way that requires a measure of trust to be effective. Big difference in my opinion.
Yeah if he's that loud of it then he doesn't deserve any trust or benefit of the doubt
@@KAMZA. I doubt it. It’s not easy to trust someone with my health in that way. I have to relax enough for the adjustments to work or not cause me harm.
I am lucky. I have a local butcher/smokehouse very close to me. He raises the beef and has Amish grown chickens. He also smokes his own hams and makes kielbasa and sausages. Yes, it's more than supermarket meat, but the quality is so much better.
A lovely and well argued explanation of seasonal eating and buying locally.
I am so supportive of seasonal eating! My neighbor is a Trumper, but she runs our local online food market. I still buy from her because its opportunity for a conversation. She knows I'm queer and a Democrat, I'm not quiet about it. So we get a chance to chat and change minds.
There are permies that aren't progressive, some are libertarian and, yes, some support Trump. Maybe there's some who missed the #unity movement that largely moved into #maha. Who are now the bigger supporters for regenerative ag. These changes in the national political scene are less about political divisions than farmer/worker vs corporate corruption and big ag. The Amish might have been the swing votes for Pennsylvania, while in my state they will be most of the producers for the Food as Medicine program I'm leading, which in another county a similar program may have produce from non-white gay permies. The political divisions have, and are continuing to shift. I don't think where I live is any different than most other places - things change.
I love going to my local farmer's market, it feels like the community comes together to support each other and be able to interact with each other without politics. It makes us an actual community instead of pitting neighbors against each other
Totally agree. We support local farmers for our meat and grow a large garden for eating throughout the year, both fresh and preserved. We hope to start raising chickens this spring. We enjoy having our food grown close to where we live and knowing the people who grow and tend what we personally are not growing for all the reasons you mentioned.
Thanks for sharing your perspective!
This isn't precisely what you were talking about (food); we've been going to a particular car mechanic for over two decades now. He's scrupulously honest, and incredibly patient with explaining things as needed, and takes excellent care of our cars -- even to the point of telling us when we'd be smarter to go to someone else for an issue. We bring him goodies every christmas, and sympathized supportively during the time he was really worried about his wife's battle with cancer (she's 7 years cancer-free this year!), and consider him a good friend. We were shocked to discover he voted for Trump... but after talking it over privately later, we decided to continue going to him. He's kind, generous, hardworking, honest, and a really decent man, even if we disagree on some political issues. I would rather be there for him, should he or his wife fall ill again, you know? I don't know if that makes me a hypocrite, or what... but those are my thoughts.
I think there's a difference between a decent person who was fooled and awful people supporting other awful people.
@@chrisdonovan8795 That's my thought too. Analyzing why some places make me uncomfortable, & I stop going there: political garbage on their walls, chatting/bragging about the election, anger at mention of democrats, etc. My mechanic friend doesn't do any of that.
@@laughingcollieI think you're doing the right thing :)
I'm the winter where i live, there's no local produce. But as soon as it starts showing up at the farm stands, I buy from them. Also I'm trying hard to support my local egg farmers becAuse their prices are not much higher than at the grocery store and I know their business is more ethical.
I won't support tRumpers, esp. if I know or have a good sense of their position. This was a great video to stimulate reflection. We're fortunate to live where we do in California. I have a garden, access to local farmers, and employee owned and small nurseries. Awesome exercise.
Me too. All of the above. (Although I live further north.) I wouldn't want to live anywhere but California.
No.
I'm not going to knowingly give my money to a Trump supporter unless it absolutely cannot be avoided.
Thank you for this! I've been struggling. When it comes to stuff I need, I can overlook the individual voting for Trump as long as their practices are ethical. If it's stuff I don't need, I would rather do without.
This year, I’m eating animal
Products from my neighbor farmer as much as possible. And I’ve decided to eat only plants that I grow on my food forest - only when in season. That means I’m carnivore now in winter, and will eat plants only when in season. I’m building community around the food forest, and bartering for cheese, sourdough bread and honey. I don’t care about the farmers and bartering partners politics. Agree with you. Also, how can you influence someone with different political views if you avoid them and only surround yourself with people who think just like you?
I have taken up canning. The old-fashioned way to have fruit in winter.
What is the cost of a whole lamb such as you are showing & would you ever show us how you prepare a meal & where the ingredients came from? I am intrigued.
Yep I will. But there is a priority.
Local blue over local T.
Same.
For the most part, I’ve always supported local farmers and small businesses.
Unless there’s no other option and I’m in desperate need, I will not support a Yambo supporter’s business or patronize one that allows their Yambo devotees to exhibit such loyalty.
I vote with my dollars daily along with my semi-annual vote in the booth.
I also live in a very rural area so this isn’t always easy to accomplish.
100% everything you said.
For me, I wait all year for cherry season. It's short, just four to six weeks for peak ripeness. And if we get rain too soon it ruins some of the crop. I go to the farmers market and buy lots of cherries--every week. I've had quite a few stomach aches, but I don't care. I never buy them out of season or non-local because they just aren't as good. Same with stone fruits--OMG we have fabulous peaches and apricots--tomatoes, and oddly collard greens in the fall. One of the best things about California is the fresh produce.
As to the local vs. Trumper, I think local trumps Trump. I agree, I don't ask. Here's what I've decided. Local, sustainable agriculture and business is more important than anything corporate because when capitalism eventually implodes all we will have is each other. When it all falls apart they will all have learned their difficult lessons, but we will still need each other. Best to not have burned all our bridges.
I am so lucky to have a family farm across the street, complete with farm store and local honey. During their season I buy what I can from them exclusively. During the off season I'm part of a co-op which pulls from the whole metro area
While we had chickens, we fed them the best food around (non gmo local grain) and there was (is) only 1 farm that had it. They were very lovely people and very knowledgeable.
Trumpers nonetheless.
We chose to not make it an issue.
Thank you for the book recommendation! It sounds great!
I love fruit, especially grapes. The ones coming from the other end of the world just don’t taste as good as the ones in season coming north from California. I even notice a drop in quality near the end of the season. So when the grapes come in, I gorge myself, lol. I try to eat mostly food from Washington and Oregon too (I’m in the west PDX suburbs).
I’d imagine most of the local small farmers who care about raising their animals and crops ethically probably aren’t Trumpers, but who knows? I grew up in the California Central Valley, so I went to school with farm kids and my dad wrote insurance policies for a lot of family farms back in the day. I can’t help making a distinction between real family farmers and the ones who are large landowners whose “farming” consists primarily of overseeing the migrant workers who do the real work. I’ve seen stories of them freaking out because much of their work force is at risk of being deported, or going home to avoid the risk of their families being split up if they wait, and I can’t muster up much sympathy since they’re probably the ones who voted Trump.
Pnw grows great grapes too
It's Almost impossible to convince people the value of co-ops, if its not directly demonstrated? Much akin to "parenting" ... "Live the talk, walk the walk" is the Most Effective Teaching... Full Stop.
I love our co-op, Fiddleheads!
Yeah, agreed. it's impossible For me to shop local and seasonal without buying from Trumpers because I live in a red state.
Extremely lucky that my tiny town has itty bitty farmer grocery store. The owner lets people volunteer in exchange for free produce.
I love this, thanks for this video! We live in rural Nova Scotia and we do our best to grow what can and to buy from our farmer friends. I think buying from local small producers is more important than their individual politics - of course politics aren't quite as polarizing up here as it is for you folks, lol - even our most conservative people would likely be considered "radical left" by a Trumper. For me, local beats everything, even organic, to be honest. If I can buy local organic, I do. If it is a choice between local non-organic and organic from far away, I choose local. I buy Nova Scotian whetever possible, and Canadian when not. For health and food safety reasons, I won't buy meat or dairy from the US.
I'm onboard with local support, lower prices, peak flavor and reducing carbon footprints, but I wonder if there can be an impact on nutrition when engaging in strict seasonal eating practices. This might have a larger impact when people live in an extreme climate. Of course people will survive, but is it optimal from a nutritional viewpoint if their local sources aren't as nutritionally diverse? This ties into issues about whether or not a region is worth inhabiting due to an environment that isn't conducive to agriculture for some reason.
As for supporting people who differ politically.... My gut reaction is to hurt them, but do I really want their family to suffer? No.
I remember reading a book about the 1920s iirc, which quoted an older person in that time, who said people used to be sickly in the winter from the lack of fruit and vegetables to eat. I think the chapter was discussing the rise of refrigerated transport and the increase in home refrigerators, and how it changed eating habits. And when you compare the overall health of the generation that grew up during the Depression to those who grew up in the 1950s and 60s as they age, the ones who grew up better nourished seem to be aging better/healthier. I don’t know how much of that is better nutrition when they were growing up, and how much is medical advances. The difference between my grandmother and my mother and aunt healthwise is like night and day. I feel like the health of twenty- and thirtysomethings is getting poorer, and I wonder how much of that is from being raised on chicken nuggets, Lunchables, Kid Cuisine, and soda pop.
@@CatMom-uw9jl Interesting points. Your comment on modern food ties into urban poverty. Sometimes it's all that people have access to.
I'm definitely not strictly seasonal : I freeze and can and dehydrate a LOT of food. And definitely I don't want to encourage pedantry and disordered eating.
@@ParkrosePermaculture I get it. I can be a very rigid person, and there's a price to be paid for that. There's a lot to be said for doing the best you can in many situations.
@@ParkrosePermaculture Oh shoot! I just assumed that seasonal eating included food that was canned, dehydrated, or frozen when it was harvested.
Shop local, yes but no Trumpers. Order online or drive a little ways works for me. Don’t shop Amazon either.
... A lot of my friends started out as coworkers in the retail nursery business, various vendors for big box and small box customers, it's a small world in a big metroplex, we all know, see and talk about each other at the various stores, surprisingly i used to hang out with a lot of these people and considered quite a few of them friends, in the time since Covid I dropped about a dozen of them over what some would call political differences, I would call morals, there are few of the maga leaning that some of us still refer to as friends, I know i want to be there because I think they will recognize the shyt when it bubbles up, I think they are good people who followed a fool and realize it, or will...
We shop a local farmer's market and at our local food coop. Delicious, locally grown sweet potatoes in the oven!
flat out wrong; ive worked too many ag jobs with trumpets as bosses; i will not and do NOT recommend supporting these businesses as they are always the worst for worker rights and abuse.
we already know they dont support their communities when shtf; the last few yrs have taught some of you nothing, this channel included. kingsolver is a great read but nowhere near that important, fiction or otherwise.
thinking you will have control over a farmer is out of touch at best, along with not understanding that what they sell is NOT always from their farm.
again-an actual ag worker with exp on organic and conventional farms.
I think you have fundamentally misunderstood something along the way here.
We're going to need some lamb recipes and cooking vids pls
You obviously haven't eaten Tennessee's "GMO Tomatoes. They are grown in Granger TN, and are tasteless crap. I am from the north and being used to home grown tomatoes, I went to visit my friend in TN. She had to take me to the "Tomato" festival there. It was awful.
There's rarely only one local person selling what you want, so it's easier not to support the people who voted to cause harm to everyone. No, I won't support trumpers.
I think it really depends on where you live because I got tons of feedback on the initial video from folks in red areas that there is no alternative if you are going to shop local: everyone is a tr*mper.
Love it! By pass the BS and just live your local life lovingly!
Those folks are our neighbors. Jesus had a few words about that. And remember, a kind word can open a heart. An open heart is fertile ground for a seed to be planted in. Be kind, even it is not appreciated or returned. Our actions reveal our character. Perfection is not possible, just keep trying. Be deliberate in your kindness.
I started my urban farm back in 2015 _because_ of the reaction to Trump by the farmers around me. At this point, I'm rooting for BigAg.
BigAg also supported Trump.
I'd sooner steal...
Than buy local?
Umm, if everyone steals from the grocery stores, they will be empty within a week, then all closed down fast.
Many people don’t realize the stores usually only have less than a weeks worth of groceries for their community
@@ParkrosePermaculture i'm happy to buy locally from people not actively campaigning on my deletion 😊
locla liquor store threw trump flags at the entrance then tried to charge me (a POC) $3 for a snickers. havent had a beer or a snickers in over a year; never going back lol but you're right farmers markets are underrated gems
And when you are so poor you can't afford this? I mean really poor, "I can only afford a happy meal for my kid today, I hope I can afford groceries next week." Do you have a video about this issue, the lack of a decent social safety net? (edit that came off very negative, what you suggest is very reasonable if you can afford it. I was only bothered because you seemed to imply everyone should be doing this, not 'people who can'.)
I never implied that everybody should be doing this. Are you new to my content? You might enjoy my video on "good, better, best" or any of my videos on local food economies and doing what is accessible to you.
Inclusivity over division! Angela/Trumper collaboration… what a wonderful idea. 🎉
What a way to be the bigger person
I harbor an odd plan to raise geese and ducks because I read they can lay eggs from eating nothing more than grass and also drying clothes on a clothesline in the sun. But I'm a feared the neighbors will report my nefarious activities and big brotha come marching down to pick me up???
Who one votes for should have nothing to do with whether one buys from them or not.
Even if their Trumpers? Can't we move on from this immaturity?
No, we can't. It's a moral issue to not support bigots.
By the way, it's "they're"
@lilachaiku4045 you're right, I'll just unsubscribe from this bigot.
What "immaturity"?
@ParkrosePermaculture sweeping categorization and dehumanizations of groups of people. That isn't helpful tp anyone. Anyway, it's your perogative, lots of other channels out there.