Old Nut, watching your videos is like looking in a mirror at my work. We both muddle along, but work carefully, meticulously, and precisely. And the end result is usually quite successful. Thanks for your videos.
Old Nut,Following from Pennsylvania USA.Luved the series on this old girl.I am doing a clutch repair on my 82 FXR. I also found the rivets in the bottom of my case.I went ahead & ordered a clutch hub assembly & will be installing when it comes .I wasnt sure about the rivets.After seeing you do the rivets I ordered the kit & will have a back up.Keep up the great work.
Thank you so much for this. I am working in a gazebo, rebuilding my shovelhead and find this invaluable. Rebuilding a motorcycle in a workshop in December? Luxury! Best wishes Ian
Hi Ian, first of all good luck with the rebuild ! I admire your determination if you are having to work in a gazebo in this weather. Have you got a lot to do on it? Mind you I did not think mine needed that much when I got it and I was very wrong .It is all good fun though !
@@oldnutsgarage Hi , it's a thirty year old project that's had 2 house moves whilst in bits, so bits have gone missing and my memory for the details have been forgotten in the mists of time. I used to have a memory ,now I've got post-it notes, so your post are a huge help.
Hi OldNut, I hope you noticed in time that the three lock nuts of the clutch spring plate are mounted the wrong way around. The lug on the plate and the slot should interlock.
Hi, I am not sure if I noticed or not, so will have to assume I did not and take the cover off again to check. I prefer to blame old age but stupidity probably outranks it! Thanks for letting me know.
Thank you so much @Old Nut's Garage for your videos to the Shovel! Enjoyed them and took way much along for my own rebuilding, helped me a lot. (Sorry, my english is not as good) Got actually some clutch probs but with your vids I'm gonna fix them! So, keep on! Is there any video you are driving the lady? Greetings from Germany!
there is a clip that holds the pushrod to the throw out bearing, best to remove the cover on the other side to verify which throw out bearing you have...
I will be taking the cover off soon before I run the bike. As you say, the little E clip must be missing to allow the pushrod to be free. Looks like more rummaging about on the horizon.
I agree lots of little hardened steel bit in a gearbox is not good also weld the slinger on as the alway round out. Compensation sprocket is more than the gears box impact gun for a couple of seconds that will do the job. Good job 👍🏻
That explains why I could not get it to fit! There was no evidence of any damage anyway and as the bike is nearly 50 years old it cannot be too much of a problem. I will follow your advice and make sure the chain does not get too slack.
Interesting, I did not know that as I am a Harley novice. I assume there was only one from the factory though? I will fit the second when it comes apart again and being a Shovel, it almost certainly will ! Thanks for watching.
Hi. Did all that work rectified oil leaks? Or are you still finding new ones. I just bought 82 wide glide and it looks like it's leaking from everywhere.
Hi Stanislaw, it has stopped it dropping oil on to the floor which it was doing in large amounts before the work. Now there is a light film of gearbox oil on the underside of the box and no engine oil drips from the primary side, so pretty successful as I think Shovels will always breathe a little! Good luck tracking down the leaks on yours and thanks for watching!
Yes i heard that too, old machinery always leaked. Btw brilliant work and well documented, I'll wait for some warner days to tackle mine , so far im collecting parts to for it. Good luck with future projects
@@oldnutsgarage the mounting studs in the trans case can leak. Three of them go through into the fluid. Next time it’s out, pull the studs, clean and use blue loctite..
Hi Tommy, a few people have said use 50 weight in the box but I thought I would give the heavier stuff a go as it was recommended on one of the forum in the USA. Might slow down the leaks too !
I think you did all that work and spent money for nothing. The primary will most likely still leak the fluid that you put into it. Those primary covers are notorious for leaking. A lot of those bikes get converted to belt drive to eliminate the chain/oil. So, that being said, does your still leak?
Hi Tom, luckily the work was successful, have a look at the video "Wakey Wakey" in the playlist. The old shovel used to drop oil every single day, now it can sit for extended periods and leave no trace so I am very happy. Now all I have to do is try and stop it wet sumping.
This bike is confusing me, Mark, I have to say. You can have a dry primary or a wet one... That's a pretty radical user modification. I've never been a Harley guy, I have to say. They're a caricature of your bog standard American male. Overweight, overloud and frankly rather slow... (That, btw, was a joke, just in case any transpondines are tuning in. Feel free to mock the English. We're used to it). Thankyou, sir. Much appreciated, as ever.
This bike was originally "damp" Bill, with recirculating oil vapour to keep things lubricated although the clutch was "dry" (ish ). A previous owner plugged up the original pipework and associated holes and put a litre of oil ( or so ) into the primary case so the primary chain ran in that instead, which is apparently a common modification. The third option is fully dry when a belt is used instead of a primary chain, some bikes using this mod do not even have outer chain cases but use alloy guards. Confused? I certainly am........as for overweight, overloud and slow I think that is a perfect description of my Shovel but it has a certain something that is hard to put my finger on ( mainly because it vibrates straight off again ) but it has a certain charm. Thanks as usual Bill for watching !
@@oldnutsgarage and now I'm even more confused. But that is the joy of Harleys. You can do pretty much anything to them and they keep going. As a lifelong fan of big old British singles I like loud and slow. The weight, though, I have trouble with. Theoretical these days. If I were to go back onto 2 wheels I think a little Honda 125 would do. Bulletproof, 50ish and light enough to pick up if it ever were to go horizontal. My lovely stepson, now 18 and 6'5" or so is bugging me to give him my 61 year old B40, the 100th that rolled off the line. In pieces in a London attic for the last 30 years. And this is a boy who has never once fixed a puncture on a bicycle... He doesn't understand that that old crap had to be constantly fettled if you wanted it not to kill you. (I'm starting to sound like my dad)... Keep safe, Mark, and keep 'em coming. The subscription numbers are growing and BSA has been reborn (ish). Not all is doom and gloom.
@@oldnutsgarage unfortunately, Mark, this particular old nut does not have a garage, living on a narrowboat and all. So 1st I create a workspace, and then... The bike was in perfect running order when I stripped and stored it nearly 40 years ago. Who knows what damage the squirrels have caused? (Seriously, ex no 1, in whose attic the bike resides was invaded by squirrels. They can't be as bad as mice or rats, but they've probably run off with the nuts)... You've inspired me, sir. If all else fails I'll donate it to you for educational purposes. Keep well and keep showing us all how it can be done. Many thanks.
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Old Nut, watching your videos is like looking in a mirror at my work. We both muddle along, but work carefully, meticulously, and precisely. And the end result is usually quite successful.
Thanks for your videos.
I think you have summed it perfectly Terry, if I take my time I mess things up less often. Thanks for watching!
Old Nut,Following from Pennsylvania USA.Luved the series on this old girl.I am doing a clutch repair on my 82 FXR. I also found the rivets in the bottom of my case.I went ahead & ordered a clutch hub assembly & will be installing when it comes .I wasnt sure about the rivets.After seeing you do the rivets I ordered the kit & will have a back up.Keep up the great work.
Really glad you enjoyed the videos Patrick, good luck with the clutch swap and thanks a lot for watching!
Thank you so much! Super helpful. Thanks from Brooklyn NY. My 1973 is back in action thanks to your help
Really glad it was of some use and thank you very much for watching!
Well done, best Video regarding shovelhead primary oil leak.
Thanks, I am glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching!
Thank you so much for this. I am working in a gazebo, rebuilding my shovelhead and find this invaluable. Rebuilding a motorcycle in a workshop in December? Luxury! Best wishes Ian
Hi Ian, first of all good luck with the rebuild ! I admire your determination if you are having to work in a gazebo in this weather. Have you got a lot to do on it? Mind you I did not think mine needed that much when I got it and I was very wrong .It is all good fun though !
@@oldnutsgarage Hi , it's a thirty year old project that's had 2 house moves whilst in bits, so bits have gone missing and my memory for the details have been forgotten in the mists of time. I used to have a memory ,now I've got post-it notes, so your post are a huge help.
I can barely remember what day it is nowadays so I do not envy you having to pull it all back together. Good luck and let me know how it is going !
Hi OldNut,
I hope you noticed in time that the three lock nuts of the clutch spring plate are mounted the wrong way around. The lug on the plate and the slot should interlock.
Hi, I am not sure if I noticed or not, so will have to assume I did not and take the cover off again to check. I prefer to blame old age but stupidity probably outranks it! Thanks for letting me know.
Thank you so much @Old Nut's Garage for your videos to the Shovel! Enjoyed them and took way much along for my own rebuilding, helped me a lot. (Sorry, my english is not as good) Got actually some clutch probs but with your vids I'm gonna fix them! So, keep on! Is there any video you are driving the lady? Greetings from Germany!
Great Job, Ty..
Thanks for watching!
Good job very helpfull 🇩🇰
Glad it was of some use Lars, thanks for watching!
there is a clip that holds the pushrod to the throw out bearing, best to remove the cover on the other side to verify which throw out bearing you have...
I will be taking the cover off soon before I run the bike. As you say, the little E clip must be missing to allow the pushrod to be free. Looks like more rummaging about on the horizon.
I agree lots of little hardened steel bit in a gearbox is not good also weld the slinger on as the alway round out.
Compensation sprocket is more than the gears box impact gun for a couple of seconds that will do the job. Good job 👍🏻
I have it lined up for stripping next but there will be a couple of 550 videos first Micheal.
The case saver goes on the primary case not the starter....long as the rear chain is kept adjusted all is fine.
That explains why I could not get it to fit! There was no evidence of any damage anyway and as the bike is nearly 50 years old it cannot be too much of a problem. I will follow your advice and make sure the chain does not get too slack.
You have 2 clutch pushrod seals as the nut can take 2 so twice the sealing power..
Interesting, I did not know that as I am a Harley novice. I assume there was only one from the factory though? I will fit the second when it comes apart again and being a Shovel, it almost certainly will ! Thanks for watching.
What is the purpose of the braided wire next to the compensator?
The wire hanging down under the case? It is the regulator lead that will be fed up to the battery later. Thanks for watching!
Hi. Did all that work rectified oil leaks? Or are you still finding new ones. I just bought 82 wide glide and it looks like it's leaking from everywhere.
Hi Stanislaw, it has stopped it dropping oil on to the floor which it was doing in large amounts before the work. Now there is a light film of gearbox oil on the underside of the box and no engine oil drips from the primary side, so pretty successful as I think Shovels will always breathe a little! Good luck tracking down the leaks on yours and thanks for watching!
Yes i heard that too, old machinery always leaked. Btw brilliant work and well documented, I'll wait for some warner days to tackle mine , so far im collecting parts to for it. Good luck with future projects
Glad you liked it, have fun with your Glide and thanks for watching!
@@oldnutsgarage the mounting studs in the trans case can leak. Three of them go through into the fluid. Next time it’s out, pull the studs, clean and use blue loctite..
Gearbox should use the same as the engine... straight 50 or 60 weight oil.... : )
Hi Tommy, a few people have said use 50 weight in the box but I thought I would give the heavier stuff a go as it was recommended on one of the forum in the USA. Might slow down the leaks too !
I think you did all that work and spent money for nothing. The primary will most likely still leak the fluid that you put into it. Those primary covers are notorious for leaking. A lot of those bikes get converted to belt drive to eliminate the chain/oil. So, that being said, does your still leak?
Hi Tom, luckily the work was successful, have a look at the video "Wakey Wakey" in the playlist. The old shovel used to drop oil every single day, now it can sit for extended periods and leave no trace so I am very happy. Now all I have to do is try and stop it wet sumping.
S&S oil pump will fix that. The stock oil pumps suck.@@oldnutsgarage
This bike is confusing me, Mark, I have to say. You can have a dry primary or a wet one... That's a pretty radical user modification. I've never been a Harley guy, I have to say. They're a caricature of your bog standard American male. Overweight, overloud and frankly rather slow... (That, btw, was a joke, just in case any transpondines are tuning in. Feel free to mock the English. We're used to it). Thankyou, sir. Much appreciated, as ever.
This bike was originally "damp" Bill, with recirculating oil vapour to keep things lubricated although the clutch was "dry" (ish ). A previous owner plugged up the original pipework and associated holes and put a litre of oil ( or so ) into the primary case so the primary chain ran in that instead, which is apparently a common modification. The third option is fully dry when a belt is used instead of a primary chain, some bikes using this mod do not even have outer chain cases but use alloy guards. Confused? I certainly am........as for overweight, overloud and slow I think that is a perfect description of my Shovel but it has a certain something that is hard to put my finger on ( mainly because it vibrates straight off again ) but it has a certain charm. Thanks as usual Bill for watching !
@@oldnutsgarage and now I'm even more confused. But that is the joy of Harleys. You can do pretty much anything to them and they keep going. As a lifelong fan of big old British singles I like loud and slow. The weight, though, I have trouble with. Theoretical these days. If I were to go back onto 2 wheels I think a little Honda 125 would do. Bulletproof, 50ish and light enough to pick up if it ever were to go horizontal. My lovely stepson, now 18 and 6'5" or so is bugging me to give him my 61 year old B40, the 100th that rolled off the line. In pieces in a London attic for the last 30 years. And this is a boy who has never once fixed a puncture on a bicycle... He doesn't understand that that old crap had to be constantly fettled if you wanted it not to kill you. (I'm starting to sound like my dad)... Keep safe, Mark, and keep 'em coming. The subscription numbers are growing and BSA has been reborn (ish). Not all is doom and gloom.
The B40 sounds like it needs saving Bill, there cannot be many older ones knocking about
@@oldnutsgarage unfortunately, Mark, this particular old nut does not have a garage, living on a narrowboat and all. So 1st I create a workspace, and then... The bike was in perfect running order when I stripped and stored it nearly 40 years ago. Who knows what damage the squirrels have caused? (Seriously, ex no 1, in whose attic the bike resides was invaded by squirrels. They can't be as bad as mice or rats, but they've probably run off with the nuts)... You've inspired me, sir. If all else fails I'll donate it to you for educational purposes. Keep well and keep showing us all how it can be done. Many thanks.