i THINK HE THOUGHT (oops capslock) wyrms work like chimearas and only attack ground so he needs web first to fight the enemy wyrms. He could be a nooby that on ly played a couple of Night-elf games. I try to find a rational reason but the simplestsest solution he has a low iq or is a little kid.
>get wyrm >dont fight with them >dont share >"uSe mY HeR0!" >"we got a bad ud" >is playing ud >doesnt make his own crypt fiends yet keeps demanding others to do it 500iq right there
Honestly, these type of players made 4v4 rt practicly unplayable back then. Wants to shot call for the whole team, has zero clue, lose his cool the fastest, blames others while being obviously wrong. Not a rare type in Mobas either, with the same effectivness to ruin games. Actually, these sort of ppl made me avoid all games/game modes where you have to operate in a random team. Im too old now, back then I managed to beat teams 1v4 in rts (because many times the enemy was similary horrbile) but over the years I lost my patient and now I hardly can get myself to deal with the stupid, the mentally weak or with other impatient ppl.
@@CraftyF0X I've played a bit of wc3, dota/dota2, lol, hots and in all those games there's no shortage of these kinds of horrible players who think they're good and want to shotcall even while being absolutely clueless
@@CraftyF0X The emotional, generalised, aggressive and derogatory way you describe those players makes you sound similar you know? _"The things we dislike most in others are the characteristics we like least in ourselves."_ comes to mind. Out of curiosity, what's your estimate for the proportion of the traits you described that you sometimes exhibit?
@@nommy8599 I don't think it was a particulary emotional description. Generalization is never accurate but would you watch 900 replay if i send to you as a tangeable proof of existance of such "generalized group" ? I think not. This is somewhat of a catch 22 when you talk about your personal grievences ppl will come up and say its a rare case and generally that is not what's happening. Then you keep sampling and when you have enough experience to state something general, ppl turn to criticize your generalization. By that logic one example doesn't matter (anecdotal) but a million doesn't matter either because it is just generalization and it doesn't take into account every possible case. "The things we dislike most in others are the characteristics we like least in ourselves." funnily enough thats an overgeneralization, plenty of behaviour annoy you or me which we don't do to others and thats an objective fact. Beside the point, you don't really know about me at all. I rarelly assume the leader position in a team especially if someone seems more capable. Im also fully well aware of the Dunning-Krueger effect which I avoid by honestly accepting if someone turns out to be more competent (if not for other but as a learning opportunity) I constantly self evaluate myself and my abilities to avoid to makemyself a fool. Even with this vigilance and strive for objective evaluation, sometimes I make mistakes, sure I made some in the past. But I try not to be arrogant, overconfident, offensive, or detractive and most importantly, I never assume ill intent until there is no other explanation.( that is where by the way many "raging gamer" goes wrong, they assume ill intent, or when met with criticism they feel persecuted) Im overall quite easy going and forgiving, even when we talk about major mistakes (whos never had a bad day ? I can understand that), Im more like the cooperative "lets solve this together" kind of guy. Trust me, you have to try really hard if you want me to lose my cool in a game. And the fact that it still happened quite a few times in teamgames with random ppl tells me that you can't cooperate with ppl who are just there to get a rise out of you, neither with the stupid beyond a treshold. (when D-K kicks in and someone just holy convinced that he is a misunderstood genious while everybody is an idiot who fails to follow his commands) You saw the example: wyrm guy, he was fairly quick to call Grubby a noob, after he compounded errors on errors. He wasn't trollish he was just objectively bad enought to be completelly unable to judge who is competent and who is not. (Strictly speaking he might not be stupid but he was definatelly shown to be clueless about the game)
@@CraftyF0X Yeah, you're right, it didn't seem as emotional as I thought on 2nd look. You're right about the quote being generalised too, they needed to put 'usually' at the start to be more literally correct I think. Good point about generalising too. Good to hear someone not afraid to admit their imperfections, that's admirable and sadly rarer than I'd like. I'd sure rather encounter people like you than those like that wyrm gun in game, that's for damn sure! Good luck & thanks.
Lol. It is true. I've seen your one year ago vídeos and u were kind agresive or sarcástico. But i have a great time watchin your vídeos and ur healthy sense of humor its not easy i know ... But at least u dont play in non oficial servers with delay! Lol
This reminds me so much of my early days playing warcraft 3. Always playing 4v4 because I was clueless as to what I was doing, and every game was just complete anarchy. Sadly, my most memorable game was a backstab. We pwned the opposition. However, we only had two people who built anti-air. One guy built wyverns, I built raiders. Of course, the guy with the wyverns decided to backstab us. We literally sat there for over an hour while he toyed with us, and we couldn't do anything about it, because he wouldn't let us build any units that could stop him. Eventually, the opposing team regrouped and killed us all. That was the most infuriating game I ever played in wc3. Well, we did have another game with a pro player that I think just won because he was so good at micro (I tried to mimic his build and it turned out horribly, and everyone was asking me wtf I was thinking using the build that I was). As for backstabbing, I recall having that happen A LOT in 4v4s. One time I was complaining about it in chat while queuing for a game, and the guy I was talking to ended up on my team! And he had already admitted to me that he was a backstabber (yeah, ironny). All I can remember from that fight is him attacking my base with a pitlord. And despite all this, I decided to backstab once myself (in the only 2v2 game I ever played, I apparently caught him completely off guard, I guess backstabbing wasn't common in 2v2s). Oh, and I did have a 4v4 game where I built wyverns. Unlike this idiot though, I had enough sense to USE them. We won that game rather easily. One of the other guys built druids of the talon, and we killed each of them one by one in their own bases. Yeah, that was VERY one-sided. It was like the opposition wasn't even trying.
The only way to successfully not be passive aggressive is to be actively aggressive, and that's kinda difficult via the internet where you can only use words.
Interesting game though somewhat toxic. Or probably it's just me - I don't like like when random ppl try to control other's play style or unit compositions. There is nothing wrong in asking for advice or giving one but man this is so annoying. It is widely common to have such ppl in moba games as well. So for me the best way to play is in 1v1s or in team games where I know my team mates. I really don't know how you are able to put up with random ppl Grubby! GG WP tnx for the upload
you should've gotten an alchemist for heals or a pitlord for rain of fire as a second hero. Or perhaps both pitlord and a bloodmage, imagine spamming three AoE spells into the enemy lines.
![Grubby | WC3 2v2 | [EPIC] | EVERYONE LVL 6!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/FncX4SAjzgE/mqdefault.jpg)
This game felt a little bit like playing Heroes of the Storm at the start of a new season! Fun, but with all kinds of frustrating..
i THINK HE THOUGHT (oops capslock) wyrms work like chimearas and only attack ground so he needs web first to fight the enemy wyrms.
He could be a nooby that on ly played a couple of Night-elf games.
I try to find a rational reason but the simplestsest solution he has a low iq or is a little kid.
you got a very 'good' teammate!
not ur fault grubby its blues fault XD
You got trolled hard. There’s no limit to what lonely man children will do for a little bit of ’fun’.
>get wyrm
>dont fight with them
>dont share
>"uSe mY HeR0!"
>"we got a bad ud"
>is playing ud
>doesnt make his own crypt fiends yet keeps demanding others to do it
500iq right there
Honestly, these type of players made 4v4 rt practicly unplayable back then. Wants to shot call for the whole team, has zero clue, lose his cool the fastest, blames others while being obviously wrong. Not a rare type in Mobas either, with the same effectivness to ruin games. Actually, these sort of ppl made me avoid all games/game modes where you have to operate in a random team. Im too old now, back then I managed to beat teams 1v4 in rts (because many times the enemy was similary horrbile) but over the years I lost my patient and now I hardly can get myself to deal with the stupid, the mentally weak or with other impatient ppl.
@@CraftyF0X I've played a bit of wc3, dota/dota2, lol, hots and in all those games there's no shortage of these kinds of horrible players who think they're good and want to shotcall even while being absolutely clueless
@@CraftyF0X The emotional, generalised, aggressive and derogatory way you describe those players makes you sound similar you know?
_"The things we dislike most in others are the characteristics we like least in ourselves."_ comes to mind. Out of curiosity, what's your estimate for the proportion of the traits you described that you sometimes exhibit?
@@nommy8599 I don't think it was a particulary emotional description. Generalization is never accurate but would you watch 900 replay if i send to you as a tangeable proof of existance of such "generalized group" ? I think not. This is somewhat of a catch 22 when you talk about your personal grievences ppl will come up and say its a rare case and generally that is not what's happening. Then you keep sampling and when you have enough experience to state something general, ppl turn to criticize your generalization. By that logic one example doesn't matter (anecdotal) but a million doesn't matter either because it is just generalization and it doesn't take into account every possible case.
"The things we dislike most in others are the characteristics we like least in ourselves." funnily enough thats an overgeneralization, plenty of behaviour annoy you or me which we don't do to others and thats an objective fact. Beside the point, you don't really know about me at all. I rarelly assume the leader position in a team especially if someone seems more capable. Im also fully well aware of the Dunning-Krueger effect which I avoid by honestly accepting if someone turns out to be more competent (if not for other but as a learning opportunity) I constantly self evaluate myself and my abilities to avoid to makemyself a fool. Even with this vigilance and strive for objective evaluation, sometimes I make mistakes, sure I made some in the past. But I try not to be arrogant, overconfident, offensive, or detractive and most importantly, I never assume ill intent until there is no other explanation.( that is where by the way many "raging gamer" goes wrong, they assume ill intent, or when met with criticism they feel persecuted) Im overall quite easy going and forgiving, even when we talk about major mistakes (whos never had a bad day ? I can understand that), Im more like the cooperative "lets solve this together" kind of guy. Trust me, you have to try really hard if you want me to lose my cool in a game. And the fact that it still happened quite a few times in teamgames with random ppl tells me that you can't cooperate with ppl who are just there to get a rise out of you, neither with the stupid beyond a treshold. (when D-K kicks in and someone just holy convinced that he is a misunderstood genious while everybody is an idiot who fails to follow his commands)
You saw the example: wyrm guy, he was fairly quick to call Grubby a noob, after he compounded errors on errors. He wasn't trollish he was just objectively bad enought to be completelly unable to judge who is competent and who is not. (Strictly speaking he might not be stupid but he was definatelly shown to be clueless about the game)
@@CraftyF0X Yeah, you're right, it didn't seem as emotional as I thought on 2nd look. You're right about the quote being generalised too, they needed to put 'usually' at the start to be more literally correct I think. Good point about generalising too. Good to hear someone not afraid to admit their imperfections, that's admirable and sadly rarer than I'd like. I'd sure rather encounter people like you than those like that wyrm gun in game, that's for damn sure! Good luck & thanks.
"mass spiders kill web" my brain still trying to digest this sentence
So its mass spider, then they kill, and then there's a web, and then, and then....
Love it when that guy says: "you abused my wyrms" and the other guy replies: "someone had to use them.." LOL!
More 4v4, this is brilliantly fun to watch!
Mass Wyrms!
Need spiders!
Need web!
THAtS 50DKP MINUS!!!
MANY WYRMS! HANDLE IT!
you won youtube! lol - 50DKP minus
watching chaotic 4v4 is even better when the team is a mess.
The worm guy....
i mean you can't expect the most skilled allies in 4v4 , but it's fun to watch !
“The Worm Guy” ROFLMAO 🤣
mass spiders
"I'm the carry."
You got a bad UD, unfortunately :(
Lol. It is true. I've seen your one year ago vídeos and u were kind agresive or sarcástico. But i have a great time watchin your vídeos and ur healthy sense of humor its not easy i know ... But at least u dont play in non oficial servers with delay! Lol
I kinda felt sadistic when he type "GG blue is noob" LoL =))
more 4v4 please!
The team that plays together wins together
Yeah so cool ! Thanks a lot Grubby for the upload and for your great job ! =D
Omg 4v4
This reminds me so much of my early days playing warcraft 3. Always playing 4v4 because I was clueless as to what I was doing, and every game was just complete anarchy. Sadly, my most memorable game was a backstab. We pwned the opposition. However, we only had two people who built anti-air. One guy built wyverns, I built raiders. Of course, the guy with the wyverns decided to backstab us. We literally sat there for over an hour while he toyed with us, and we couldn't do anything about it, because he wouldn't let us build any units that could stop him. Eventually, the opposing team regrouped and killed us all. That was the most infuriating game I ever played in wc3. Well, we did have another game with a pro player that I think just won because he was so good at micro (I tried to mimic his build and it turned out horribly, and everyone was asking me wtf I was thinking using the build that I was). As for backstabbing, I recall having that happen A LOT in 4v4s. One time I was complaining about it in chat while queuing for a game, and the guy I was talking to ended up on my team! And he had already admitted to me that he was a backstabber (yeah, ironny). All I can remember from that fight is him attacking my base with a pitlord. And despite all this, I decided to backstab once myself (in the only 2v2 game I ever played, I apparently caught him completely off guard, I guess backstabbing wasn't common in 2v2s).
Oh, and I did have a 4v4 game where I built wyverns. Unlike this idiot though, I had enough sense to USE them. We won that game rather easily. One of the other guys built druids of the talon, and we killed each of them one by one in their own bases. Yeah, that was VERY one-sided. It was like the opposition wasn't even trying.
there is always that one pepega guy in a 4v4 rt match
Grubby is channeling me in HotS diamond league
That wyrm guy reminded me of myself in 2004, thinking wyrms meant business lol
they do, the thing was he didnt want to use them to fight armies.
3v3 and 4v4 was better back in the day
The only way to successfully not be passive aggressive is to be actively aggressive, and that's kinda difficult via the internet where you can only use words.
Well if you'll heal your allies with paladin it will make game more funny ) ("Wait man your DK is low let me deny him") 8-)
Nice 3v5 game
Never abuse man's Wyrms !
It'd be hilarious if kodos could devour steam tanks
Why doesn’t grubby leave chat on during the match? It’s fun to watch
WE NEED SPIDERS
ya'll should've ignored that guy and played 3v4
More 4 VS 4 👍
what Platform is this on ？
😮😮😮2 of your allies played soooo bad
Please upload our 4v4s!
Interesting game though somewhat toxic. Or probably it's just me - I don't like like when random ppl try to control other's play style or unit compositions. There is nothing wrong in asking for advice or giving one but man this is so annoying. It is widely common to have such ppl in moba games as well. So for me the best way to play is in 1v1s or in team games where I know my team mates. I really don't know how you are able to put up with random ppl Grubby! GG WP tnx for the upload
!!! !!!! !!!!!
So your that tank newb in 4v4 lol
Run BTW
Why was this uploaded, though?!
Because it is fun to see
you should've gotten an alchemist for heals or a pitlord for rain of fire as a second hero. Or perhaps both pitlord and a bloodmage, imagine spamming three AoE spells into the enemy lines.
first! 1337
Do you EVER not go tanks??? Wtf
Noob team
Tanks sucked
U have best thumbnails? Can u play overwatch or hots for a while.
hahahahahaha
@@Bladeruneweird flex but ok..