The market in general seems to be softening. Some cars are stronger than others, but I am a little more conservative in advising that there is no limit to where certain cars will go. This car with all its needs would exceed the value of nice car when done, so the smart thing to do is buy a better car. If the market goes up, you win, if the market goes down, at least you don't have a car that will still cost you money. Thanks for watching.
I was excited to see that Espada, one of my all time faves and when I saw the price, I figured it was a slush box. My heart was happy when you said, 'that explains it'... yeah... meh.
I really want that GTC/4! I think they market it as running but in need of servicing. It reminds me of that driver quality black GTC/4 you just recommissioned to functioning status.
I enjoy resurrecting an unloved car, and that red GTC/4 certainly could use some love! I'm told it's got a replacement engine, so it's something to think about! Thanks for watching.
Interesting SC- Some items that popped out to me... Aftermarket A/C (1980 was the first factory A/C for the US), original smog pump (I checked their listing for the engine bay photo), period correct radio, 15" wheels. Also- that paint looks to be Bitter Chocolate (Code 408) which is an awesome 70's color. Both door card lids are warped (that happens) and that is an aftermarket front spoiler. There's a lot to like about that vehicle from an originality standpoint.
That car sold hours after I saw it! I turned one of my customers onto it, and called Anthony to secure it, and he told me he sold it. The good thing about Porsches is there will always be another one! Thanks for watching.
I think there were something like only 20-30 automatic equipped Espadas made, I wonder if that even counts as anything to a prospective customer! Always loved these from a design perspective, how come you aren’t a fan, Tom? You have probably driven one, are they not that nice to drive? Thanks for the tour!
@chesswizard31 rarity sometimes means no one wanted them, and the same may go when it's time to sell! I've driven Espadas, and although the V-12 drives well, they have too funky of a shape for my tastes. The long stretched out design is necessary to fit the four seats comfortably, but always looked too flat and long to me. Lamborghinis also have their own mechanical challenges that only a Lambo mechanic would want to tackle and that, I am not! Thanks for watching.
Lol I've been following Gullwing adverts many years for light entertainment, I'm not convinced I've EVER seen a car there that didn't have a bit of a 'story' to it or indeed a major pitfall 😅. Fortunately as I don't live in the US I could never be tempted 😂
I'm always amazed how many of their cars get shipped overseas, sight unseen. I often wonder if these cars meet the expectations of the buyers over there!
After decades of buying dreams that turned out to be money pits every time I check his inventory I'm reminded not to buy emotionally but rather with a cold realistic analysis, otherwise you will be entering the Twilight Zone !
For once I disagree with you completely: I would choose the Kaiser Darrin over the Porsche ten time over. I was afraid you would not show it. There are so many beautiful cars: I like nearly all of them. Actually I like shops of this kind. You see what you get. If you can do some of the work on those cars yourself, that is the kind of place to go. So many cars that look gorgeus in showrooms or even more a auctions are disguised lemons. For a mechanic that Mercedes would be a great choice. This Porsche with the paint issues would have been the kind of car I could have fixed up. I am a guy who knows body and paint work and I can do a descent job. Actually I could never afford a pristine example of anything, so I always had to buy the kind of cars you see here. Sometimes I got burned and sometimes I scored. That is part of this kind of car shopping. Now that I am retired and do not have a shop to work in, I try to keep the cars I have alive and I require more and more help doing it. One thing wrong with this plan, the best guys I knew that had a deep knowledge of those cars are eighter senile or dead: Mechanics, upholsterers and body men: specially good mechanics for classics are nearly no more around.
You and I seem to come from a different generation of collectors. Today, most of my clients obviously don't work on their cars, so they rely on specialist like me to do the work. These rough cars can get pretty expensive, and difficult to find the right people to do the work. More people know how to work on Porsches than Darrins, so that's a consideration for purchase. When I was younger, I did the same thing to own my cars, by putting the sweat equity into a car I couldn't own in better shape, but in my world of VIntage Ferraris and for that matter any 6 figure car, it's not the case.
@@tomyangnet I think the Kaiser engines are quite simple and reliable. And once you have a good example you really have somehing exclusive and beautiful. One thing should not be forgotten. If you put labour and love into a car, you have the right to be proud of it and you will love the vehicle much more. People will never understand why the very last car I would part from is our simple 1963 Chevrolet Belair 4 door sedan 6 banger with three on a tree my Dad had bought from a Russian diplomat in 1966. We made many vacations in Italy with it trailing a giant caravan in the back. I know I would not have the guts to work on a vintage Ferrari myself. Maybe on body and paint, but hardly on anything else. By the way: I do not try to archieve a perfect result on any of my cars. They should be driven and enjoyed and I even eat in them and happily bring family members and kids along. That is one of the reasons I love my fullsize cars. They are perfectly family friendly. And some of them are owned by my family for fifty and even nearly sixty years. And every little flaw of the cars are part of their story that I know. I have a collection of vintage coins. The rarest ones I had to buy after fifty years of search. But the ones I love most were the ones I found or even dug out of the ground when I was a kid. If you have an exploding wallet how can you be really proud of a collector car you simply bought, did not put any effort in it and you hardly ever use? I even had a rich customer who was paying us a lot to drive his exclusive British sports car.
It's impossible to quantify the value of a toy, or a pet project, which demonstrates a number of things, one of which is a limitation of mathematics. Thankfully, many of us go ahead and spend 'too much money' preserving and restoring neglected cars like these. Would you rather see them crushed? I am personally doing a very thorough refurbishment of a 1988 Corvette. The parts cost alone exceeds the car's current market value, of course. On the other hand, the total cost of the project will not far exceed the _sales tax_ I would pay if I bought, say, a C8 Corvette E-Ray. But, there is a hell of a lot more to it than that. If profit and loss is at the top of your priority list, you buy a... Prius or something. Or nothing at all, maybe. You take the bus, instead. No! We _care_ about these cars as works of kinetic art, and we gladly spend both time and money on them. Spend? Hell, we often _lavish_ our resources upon them. We sometimes build entire dimensions of our lives around them. It's about living and doing and experiencing, not just dollars and cents.
@michaellorenson2997 well said. My job is to get value for my customer’s money, but not worry about outright investment. I often point out how we can spend money on an expensive vacation and don’t expect a dime back on our return, and yet when someone buys a fun car to enjoy, why does it have to pay us back? And yet any return on a collector car will be more than that vacation you took!
Fun video, thanks for post! Enjoyed the statement "They don't sell cars, they sell dreams". Truly puts things into prespective.
Car guys at optimists and dreamers. It’s the best or worst place for a car guy! Thanks for watching.
These are really great videos. Keep it going...
It’s always fun to dream a little bit at Gullwing Motorcars! Thanks for watching!
Wow, a Darrin. One was recently used in the Fallout show as the movie star's car. Very cool.
Is the pocket door just a parlor trick?
Not sure what market you have seen soften. Those SLs keep going up
The market in general seems to be softening. Some cars are stronger than others, but I am a little more conservative in advising that there is no limit to where certain cars will go. This car with all its needs would exceed the value of nice car when done, so the smart thing to do is buy a better car. If the market goes up, you win, if the market goes down, at least you don't have a car that will still cost you money. Thanks for watching.
I was excited to see that Espada, one of my all time faves and when I saw the price, I figured it was a slush box. My heart was happy when you said, 'that explains it'... yeah... meh.
You and I thought the same thing! Thanks for watching
I really want that GTC/4! I think they market it as running but in need of servicing. It reminds me of that driver quality black GTC/4 you just recommissioned to functioning status.
I enjoy resurrecting an unloved car, and that red GTC/4 certainly could use some love! I'm told it's got a replacement engine, so it's something to think about! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the tour! Cool!
Always neat cars down there. Thanks for watching!
Alternative title: Gullwing Nightmares
Dreams can be nightmares if you don’t choose wisely! Thanks for watching.
Interesting SC- Some items that popped out to me... Aftermarket A/C (1980 was the first factory A/C for the US), original smog pump (I checked their listing for the engine bay photo), period correct radio, 15" wheels. Also- that paint looks to be Bitter Chocolate (Code 408) which is an awesome 70's color. Both door card lids are warped (that happens) and that is an aftermarket front spoiler. There's a lot to like about that vehicle from an originality standpoint.
That car sold hours after I saw it! I turned one of my customers onto it, and called Anthony to secure it, and he told me he sold it. The good thing about Porsches is there will always be another one! Thanks for watching.
I think there were something like only 20-30 automatic equipped Espadas made, I wonder if that even counts as anything to a prospective customer! Always loved these from a design perspective, how come you aren’t a fan, Tom? You have probably driven one, are they not that nice to drive? Thanks for the tour!
@chesswizard31 rarity sometimes means no one wanted them, and the same may go when it's time to sell! I've driven Espadas, and although the V-12 drives well, they have too funky of a shape for my tastes. The long stretched out design is necessary to fit the four seats comfortably, but always looked too flat and long to me. Lamborghinis also have their own mechanical challenges that only a Lambo mechanic would want to tackle and that, I am not! Thanks for watching.
Thanks for the insights!
Lol I've been following Gullwing adverts many years for light entertainment, I'm not convinced I've EVER seen a car there that didn't have a bit of a 'story' to it or indeed a major pitfall 😅. Fortunately as I don't live in the US I could never be tempted 😂
I'm always amazed how many of their cars get shipped overseas, sight unseen. I often wonder if these cars meet the expectations of the buyers over there!
6:57 Ferrari 308 ❤
He just got a 1999 Ferrari 550 Maranello in with a 6 speed.
That would have been a good car to inspect if it had arrived last week! Thanks for watching.
After decades of buying dreams that turned out to be money pits every time I check his inventory I'm reminded not to buy emotionally but rather with a cold realistic analysis, otherwise you will be entering the Twilight Zone !
I much resist the urge to buy something every time I go, but I must stay strong!
I want a red car!
Well, you're in luck!
For once I disagree with you completely: I would choose the Kaiser Darrin over the Porsche ten time over. I was afraid you would not show it.
There are so many beautiful cars: I like nearly all of them. Actually I like shops of this kind. You see what you get. If you can do some of the work on those cars yourself, that is the kind of place to go. So many cars that look gorgeus in showrooms or even more a auctions are disguised lemons.
For a mechanic that Mercedes would be a great choice.
This Porsche with the paint issues would have been the kind of car I could have fixed up. I am a guy who knows body and paint work and I can do a descent job. Actually I could never afford a pristine example of anything, so I always had to buy the kind of cars you see here. Sometimes I got burned and sometimes I scored. That is part of this kind of car shopping.
Now that I am retired and do not have a shop to work in, I try to keep the cars I have alive and I require more and more help doing it. One thing wrong with this plan, the best guys I knew that had a deep knowledge of those cars are eighter senile or dead: Mechanics, upholsterers and body men: specially good mechanics for classics are nearly no more around.
You and I seem to come from a different generation of collectors. Today, most of my clients obviously don't work on their cars, so they rely on specialist like me to do the work. These rough cars can get pretty expensive, and difficult to find the right people to do the work. More people know how to work on Porsches than Darrins, so that's a consideration for purchase. When I was younger, I did the same thing to own my cars, by putting the sweat equity into a car I couldn't own in better shape, but in my world of VIntage Ferraris and for that matter any 6 figure car, it's not the case.
@@tomyangnet I think the Kaiser engines are quite simple and reliable. And once you have a good example you really have somehing exclusive and beautiful.
One thing should not be forgotten. If you put labour and love into a car, you have the right to be proud of it and you will love the vehicle much more. People will never understand why the very last car I would part from is our simple 1963 Chevrolet Belair 4 door sedan 6 banger with three on a tree my Dad had bought from a Russian diplomat in 1966. We made many vacations in Italy with it trailing a giant caravan in the back.
I know I would not have the guts to work on a vintage Ferrari myself. Maybe on body and paint, but hardly on anything else.
By the way: I do not try to archieve a perfect result on any of my cars. They should be driven and enjoyed and I even eat in them and happily bring family members and kids along. That is one of the reasons I love my fullsize cars. They are perfectly family friendly. And some of them are owned by my family for fifty and even nearly sixty years. And every little flaw of the cars are part of their story that I know.
I have a collection of vintage coins. The rarest ones I had to buy after fifty years of search. But the ones I love most were the ones I found or even dug out of the ground when I was a kid.
If you have an exploding wallet how can you be really proud of a collector car you simply bought, did not put any effort in it and you hardly ever use?
I even had a rich customer who was paying us a lot to drive his exclusive British sports car.
It's impossible to quantify the value of a toy, or a pet project, which demonstrates a number of things, one of which is a limitation of mathematics. Thankfully, many of us go ahead and spend 'too much money' preserving and restoring neglected cars like these. Would you rather see them crushed?
I am personally doing a very thorough refurbishment of a 1988 Corvette. The parts cost alone exceeds the car's current market value, of course. On the other hand, the total cost of the project will not far exceed the _sales tax_ I would pay if I bought, say, a C8 Corvette E-Ray.
But, there is a hell of a lot more to it than that. If profit and loss is at the top of your priority list, you buy a... Prius or something. Or nothing at all, maybe. You take the bus, instead.
No! We _care_ about these cars as works of kinetic art, and we gladly spend both time and money on them. Spend? Hell, we often _lavish_ our resources upon them. We sometimes build entire dimensions of our lives around them. It's about living and doing and experiencing, not just dollars and cents.
@michaellorenson2997 well said. My job is to get value for my customer’s money, but not worry about outright investment. I often point out how we can spend money on an expensive vacation and don’t expect a dime back on our return, and yet when someone buys a fun car to enjoy, why does it have to pay us back? And yet any return on a collector car will be more than that vacation you took!
tell them to put better quality vids and photos
Bare bones selling! Nothing fancy, you get what you get!
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