True force of evil vs the intimidating cannibal Johan is portrayed as an emotionless monster in series while Hannibal is much more cunning and is more social and interactive but still a psychopath. Johan kills people without any remorse but Hamnibal has some feelings for Will in the series that shows Johan is truly more evil but Hannibal is more cunning and the fact that he eats people makes him more horryfing. Both are the real monsters but i think i'd give symbolism to Johan.
yeah, but johan never liked killing and as author said, he was never monster, just a person who tried to protect his sister from evil. and in addition he surely has emotions.
Absolutely not lol season 2 finale and season 3 finale were not better (I don’t care if you think it’s subjective this is just plain wrong with the emotional and unraveling of Johan’s state of mind as it changes in sync with the emotional build up and magnitude following johan’s trail of death throughout the series) than the ironic ending of Johan being shot in the head not by tenma but the boy’s drunk father having cognitive dissonance and picturing Johan as the devil. This is ironic due to Johan’s ideology of fate determining every outcome and all the variables are easily accounted for his perfect sui*d*. It’s a much more intricate, complex manifold of events that followed than the planned scene Hannibal did in season 2 and 3 where he killed the girl in front of Will Graham to burden him with his betrayal and intentionally knife him in a non-fatal organ. It was a great plot twist that she was alive don’t get me wrong but it doesn’t compare to Johan’s journey and development (Cali obviously doesn’t understand Johan if she doesn’t give him development his mentality and position on existential questions changes over the course of the series even to the very end of the theme of being born unwanted). Hannibal has good writing but it doesn’t compare to Johan’s end of story.
All of Naoki Urasawa's mangas are beautifully written and are psychological masterpieces. His characters might not be the "smartest" characters like baku but his characters aren't supposed to be the smartest in all fiction they are supposed to show and delve into how humans evolve and adapt making them the best books I've ever read
W edit + Fax❤, after I read the silence of the lambs, hannibal rising, and hannibal novel and I watch the tv series Hannibal takes Main dynamic and peaks while johan takes philosophy, Complexity, and consistency and johan wins very high diff
Its hard to compare johan to a character as it is heavily based on interpretation either you believe johan is pure evil or just a broken character depends on your opinion so this could go either way
Hell no Hannibal might have had a more depraved background story but it was not as crucial to his psychopathic nature than Johan’s was or explained much of his current existential problems besides eating others to become a part of them in a metamorphosis kind of way
@@Kronensegler211 tell me you didn’t watch the series without telling me you didn’t watch the series and yeah I didn’t read that book but I did read Hannibal and silence of the lambs ;) and I highly doubt you read all the novels
Thinking thats its series, Main dynamic (Hannibal& Will>> Johan and Tenma), Conclusion>=, Peaks(Rare Gift>>>>>) to Hanni and Hanni wins for me but W opinion.
@@devaxionrl8189 Rare gift is may more impactful and shows much more character devolopment. Also how tf Johan and Tenma suprasses Will and Hanni, I wouldnt even rank Johan and Tenma at top 10 LA dynamics
@@Calmoic their thematic and ideological duality and actions following those moral-based notions surpasses anything will and Hannibal discuss in their therapy sessions and cat and mouse play
@@devaxionrl8189 only nihilism and existentialism are good here and moral dilemma literally is thousand times more of a better and strong concept than that hannibal's ubermensch theme is much more better and complexity goes to hannibal depth can go either way
@@Random_scaler Johan was portrayed as the end product of the ubermensch according to nietzschean’s description in thus spoke Zarathustra. Every single event and intricacy and nuance in monster is philosophized intentionally.
Cali, how you gonna add conclusion when Hannibal doesn't even have a proper conclusion. Anyways Hannibal Takes: Introduction,Depth,Backstory (>=), and Tragedy (Definitely Above). Only a Few Changes and Hannibal Wins for me. W Edit and Distribution is fairly accurate 🥂
![[ASMR] hannibal lecter cooking](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lOIZmoOhJik/mqdefault.jpg)
W edit Cali ❤ both low diff Makishima 🥰
💀
Please do a makima vs "my glorious 4 armed king" in scd
Yesss sirrrr
Nah
@@Theambigousphilosopher Dw J, Cappy is just joking
I have gained a brain cell back 🙃
True force of evil vs the intimidating cannibal
Johan is portrayed as an emotionless monster in series while Hannibal is much more cunning and is more social and interactive but still a psychopath. Johan kills people without any remorse but Hamnibal has some feelings for Will in the series that shows Johan is truly more evil but Hannibal is more cunning and the fact that he eats people makes him more horryfing. Both are the real monsters but i think i'd give symbolism to Johan.
yeah, but johan never liked killing and as author said, he was never monster, just a person who tried to protect his sister from evil. and in addition he surely has emotions.
@@muhammadjonsherjanov2052Johan has a very big empathy
Peaks goes to Hannibal,A Rare Gift>Doomsday,having johan winning is a fair take though.
Absolutely not lol season 2 finale and season 3 finale were not better (I don’t care if you think it’s subjective this is just plain wrong with the emotional and unraveling of Johan’s state of mind as it changes in sync with the emotional build up and magnitude following johan’s trail of death throughout the series) than the ironic ending of Johan being shot in the head not by tenma but the boy’s drunk father having cognitive dissonance and picturing Johan as the devil. This is ironic due to Johan’s ideology of fate determining every outcome and all the variables are easily accounted for his perfect sui*d*. It’s a much more intricate, complex manifold of events that followed than the planned scene Hannibal did in season 2 and 3 where he killed the girl in front of Will Graham to burden him with his betrayal and intentionally knife him in a non-fatal organ. It was a great plot twist that she was alive don’t get me wrong but it doesn’t compare to Johan’s journey and development (Cali obviously doesn’t understand Johan if she doesn’t give him development his mentality and position on existential questions changes over the course of the series even to the very end of the theme of being born unwanted). Hannibal has good writing but it doesn’t compare to Johan’s end of story.
@@devaxionrl8189 bro writing an essay
Buddy it's subjective. End of Story@@devaxionrl8189
Buddy it's subjective. End of Story.@@devaxionrl8189
@@devaxionrl8189 yapping
All of Naoki Urasawa's mangas are beautifully written and are psychological masterpieces. His characters might not be the "smartest" characters like baku but his characters aren't supposed to be the smartest in all fiction they are supposed to show and delve into how humans evolve and adapt making them the best books I've ever read
Cali finally with the brain nourishment content 😃
W edit + Fax❤, after I read the silence of the lambs, hannibal rising, and hannibal novel and I watch the tv series Hannibal takes Main dynamic and peaks while johan takes philosophy, Complexity, and consistency and johan wins very high diff
This is just beautiful
Diff is far lower themes,symbolism and complexity go to Johan
Nope
@@soumyajitsen6897 yep
@@Nextkej Hannibal is too much complex. No one can read what's going on in his mind. Read Hannibal novels. He slams Johan in writing no-low diff
@@soumyajitsen6897 least delusional hannibel fan
Themes and symbolism are equal imo
Complexity goes to Johan
Introduction Hannibal
Depth, main dynamic (obv) and parallels to Hannibal ofc, he wins high diff. Johan takes development and conflicts
You read Dostoevsky but you give depth and parallels to Hannibal? Lmao yeah sure
Depth to Hannibal is blatantly wrong lol Johan is far more layered
@@devaxionrl8189 Can you tell me how that's related?
@@smart-ass8518 Dostoevsky is known for writing books with multi-layered depths and complexities duh
Good edit❤
Hannibal lecture high diff.lol😂
Complexity to Johan imo. Symbolism is debatable.
Nope. Hannibal is too complex. Nobody can read what's on his mind
@@soumyajitsen6897that’s not what complexity means in a writing context 🤦♂️
@@soumyajitsen6897 i mean can you really read whats going on in johans either......
@@scorchingradiance7605 Tenma and Lunge and even Bonaparta could easily read that
@@soumyajitsen6897 no they didn't that was why they were always like 30 steps behind
Symbolism Complexity Themes to Johan
The diff is lower
W edit, finally
2 best antagonists, W take.
Cali can you do another 10 Goffy videos please
High diff(-) imo
W edit
🔥 edit
Main dynamic
Depth
conclusion
Peaks
goes To Hannibal and he wins mid high diff
W
conclusion and peaks to hannibal is absolutely horrendous, Johan takes it not close
Only depth goes to Hannibal in this regard.
All others you just said easily goes to Johan
@@Crimsoncloak_ Johan conclusion is just terrible or maybe more than that it's too much bad
@@AliDhiaaHassan elaborate
10 days left.
Song: Wanna be yours (slowed)
10 days left Til what?
bro decide to jump
@@arlynnfolke
Sadly short people have lower fall damage
Source: my baby cousin that I pushed off a building
Its hard to compare johan to a character as it is heavily based on interpretation either you believe johan is pure evil or just a broken character depends on your opinion so this could go either way
W edit and fax
Completely , development and symbolism goes to Johan
Your normal arc les go! 😎😏😖
Backstory and main dynamic to Hannibal, consistency to Johan. Otherwise big fax, but lower diff.
Hell no Hannibal might have had a more depraved background story but it was not as crucial to his psychopathic nature than Johan’s was or explained much of his current existential problems besides eating others to become a part of them in a metamorphosis kind of way
@@devaxionrl8189 Tell me you read Hannibal Rising without telling me you didn't read Hannibal Rising.
@@Kronensegler211 tell me you didn’t watch the series without telling me you didn’t watch the series and yeah I didn’t read that book but I did read Hannibal and silence of the lambs ;) and I highly doubt you read all the novels
@@devaxionrl8189 I read all the novels and watched the entire show.
And Hannibal Rising is the novel about Hannibal's backstory to your info.
@@Kronensegler211 yes and I’m the grand wizard 🧙
What's Mads Mikkelsen doing in here😭😭
cuz he plays hannibal in the hannibal series
@@Rx.yx.n ik
Thinking thats its series, Main dynamic (Hannibal& Will>> Johan and Tenma), Conclusion>=, Peaks(Rare Gift>>>>>) to Hanni and Hanni wins for me but W opinion.
Johan and tenma annihilate in dynamics and they barely interacted
Rare gift does not touch doomsday that’s cope lmao
@@devaxionrl8189 Rare gift is may more impactful and shows much more character devolopment. Also how tf Johan and Tenma suprasses Will and Hanni, I wouldnt even rank Johan and Tenma at top 10 LA dynamics
@@Calmoic their thematic and ideological duality and actions following those moral-based notions surpasses anything will and Hannibal discuss in their therapy sessions and cat and mouse play
I would change some things, Main dynamic to Hannibal imo
Johan low diff TV show Hannibal
nah at least mid to maybe mid-high diff tv hannible was amazingly written
@@scorchingradiance7605 Yaoi fanfic
Mid-high
@@Cm_prox1 low
@@Gena-Pukin idk what that means
canon hannibal lecter’s complexity and depth > the novel counterpart imo the whole show was crafted so symbolically
Johan mid-high diffs him he takes themes, philosophy, complexity >=
@@devaxionrl8189 he doesn't take complexity nor themes
@@Random_scaler themes he takes nihilism, determinism, fate, existentialism > metamorphosis, moral dilemmas, religion
@@Random_scaler btw Johan > Hannibal in depth but complexity >= but I can give it to Hannibal as well
@@devaxionrl8189 only nihilism and existentialism are good here and moral dilemma literally is thousand times more of a better and strong concept than that hannibal's ubermensch theme is much more better
and complexity goes to hannibal depth can go either way
@@Random_scaler Johan was portrayed as the end product of the ubermensch according to nietzschean’s description in thus spoke Zarathustra. Every single event and intricacy and nuance in monster is philosophized intentionally.
W edit fr🗿 + Church victims🥶
Tainted my beloved~~~ cmere~~~
@@Fairy.-.- 🙃
Cali, how you gonna add conclusion when Hannibal doesn't even have a proper conclusion.
Anyways Hannibal Takes: Introduction,Depth,Backstory (>=), and Tragedy (Definitely Above). Only a Few Changes and Hannibal Wins for me. W Edit and Distribution is fairly accurate 🥂
You’re short.
How does Hannibal take tragedy and Backstory while series one does not even have one💀
@@CalmoicHe has one, but it’s only hinted and not as detailed explained as in the novel.
@@Kronensegler211 Yes and series one's backstory not comparable , Johan gaps badly in backstory
@@Calmoic I just responded to you saying that he doesn’t have a backstory.
W
W massive
Johan takes consistency no diff, but the rest is fine ig
Hannibal is better written imo,but W🔥🔥🔥
W edit and take homestly
Nah I’d win
Hannibal>>>>>
Hannibal slams
Conclusion johan😂
And main Dynamic 😂
Easily
Hannibal novels no diff Johan but Hannibal series lost high diff or extreme
Finally aW
Gay - Hannibal
Fax
Hannibal take
Hannibal wins high diff
Hannibal comp is way better written than Johan
Equal