Noel another great review. Back foot placement is so important to get those precise turns and that beautiful carving flow. It is always overlooked from a lot of surfers and in my opinion it will take a surfer to another level if mastered. Repetition is the key.
Sick little point of difference there having something practical and physical that someone can do to get their foot back! Cutting the pad! Not just saying "move your foot back". Legend
Incredibly concise and clear. This dude paid attention in English class. Loved every second of this. Noel, thanks for helping me become a better writer/ communicator. Yew 🤙
Always moving my back foot. Always making sure, I’m locking my back foot on that tail kick. So that I can maximize my weight, power & precision, going into a sick maneuver. I see so many surfers with their traction so far up & I wanna tell them, but I don’t want to offend them or come off like I’m trying to belittle or chastise them. So I just say nothing. I wish surf shops would throw a lil’ more instructiveness towards customer’s buying new or used board’s & traction.
The longer the board the most complicated it is. It's not that obvious on shortboard . I just figured this issue by myself after 5 year of surfing i just have to think about it now, constantly moving my back foot when i want to perform quick turn or manoeuver. I noticed as well it's easy to cheat the need of moving the foot by using a smaller board or smaller fins but it's not the clean or the right way.
been surfing for 35 yrs.. my back foot is never over the thruster fin.( maybe in solid surf on my backhand). if i purposely move my back foot further back i feel like my stance is to wide..im defiantly a front footed surfer and feel like maybe the fin cluster should be further up the board a touch..?
@@MegaMr28 Quad s do that, I surf quad mostly for that reason. Also Snowboarding helps me to get my back foot at the right spot. But it tends to creep back up if I don't snowboard
It’s so awesome to get advice from experts that have such ingenious ideas! So awesome to cut the pad and save it for later. I’d have probably tossed it or lost it until you said to add it in the future. Awesome reviews and tips as always!
I do struggle a fair bit getting all the way back there as well, if not consciously doing it, which is a bit annoying at times. Thanks Noel, that's a simple and important one!
Biggest problem I used to have was that I was riding the wrong size short board and my back foot was landing forward of the tail and my front would be in the middle. If I scooted back then I was on the pivot point but behind the planing surface so that back half of the board would sink. Dialing in my board size was the key for me
@Andrew H Ended up going shorter. I am 6' 1" +. Back in '01 i started riding Rich Price boards and went from a 6' 4" swallow tail to a 6' 1" thruster. When I made that step down i felt a dramatic improvement in my surfing. My foot started landing on the tail pad consistently and though I still dont rip, i feel like I can hang in there on the good days
Hey Noel, thanks for the great community content. One question: When is the correct moment to put your foot as far back on the deck as possible? 1) When you are going down the wave to make the dip? That is, before the dig 2) After making the trough and extension of the body, when changing the edge to the curve on the wave wall? 3) Or another moment?
Hey Noel I’m intermediate/advanced and this is one reason why I’m not getting any better I’ve been trying to get back foot more on tail to get better turns but I feel like I loose speed and that the sweet spot is further up with my back foot. I guess I just have to keep trying
In your opinion, does equipment and pop-up technique impact backfoot placement? I find that a longer board will have its center more forward, which makes me creep up towards the front unconsciously. I also realize that further back my hands are, during pop-up, the further back I can be on the board. Just my observation.
I find that where I lay on the board while paddling for a wave plays the biggest role in where I stand up on the board when I pop up. If I’m laying more back from center then I find my stance further back on the board. Likewise... if I’m laying more in front of center on the board then I stand up more centered on the board. The smaller the board the more exaggerated it feels. For example if the board is 5’0” and I’m laying just little to far back while paddling it’s harder to catch waves and when I pop to my feet I am too far back on the board. My back foot might be all the way back but my front foot is to far back from center. Smaller boards like a 5’0 expose everything quickly... a long board would be similar but less dramatic.
Could you talk about the timing? You slide it back and feel around right before the turn, right? Great video. I see so many people standing in the middle of their boards doing the wiggle and turning their heads but they don't go anywhere.
Hey Noel, really enjoy the technical yet honest reviews, advice, and input from you. I got a question.. SpineTek vs carbon wrap vs lightspeed? Currently on a NB2 SpineTek and love the hell out of the thing. But want something new. I’m mainly looking for durability/performance because I primarily am trying to do airs or surfing hard/not being gentle on my board lol. So basically only going with epoxy these days due to that. Just curious what the durability/performance of the mayhems epoxy is like since I haven’t rode one yet. I’m looking at the driver 2.0 and sub driver 2.0. Don’t feel the need to be really general with input either as I’ve been surfing my entire life in Hawaii and like the technical/specific input. Thanks again Noel! Hands down one of the best content creators for this kind of stuff and very very helpful not just for myself but for many I’m sure.
The durability on CW and SpineTek is roughly the same. The pop is better in Spinetek... it’s a bit more consistent and predictable. I have not tried Light Speed yet.
considering most beginners ride larger boards to get better paddle power and stability (refering to oversized shortboards here), does it not force (or at least fool) them into a more forward shifted or wider stance? just to get the nose down the line and not get hung up in the lip on takeoff? just my own observations, as much as id love the extra paddle power of bigger board, and id def benefit from the stability it offers, foot placement becomes much trickier, i find my feet are so much easier to place on a boards sized for a more advanced surfers. its the main reason i still try to surf at the lower range of my volume... thoughts?
Agreed... beginners riding bigger boards will have more difficulties turning bigger boards and footing is a bit different. My point is simple... if your riding a big board or HPSB..... get your foot all the way back for precise turns.
I've recently gotten a twin fin (black baron) for the first time and also chose to run no tail pad on it after always running them on my boards. Been surfing it almost exclusively and man is this my number one frustration is how much it completely ruins the wave for me if I don't absolutely nail the sweet spot of the tail. Sometimes the board feels insane and sometimes I feel like its my first day on the job. I struggle to realize when I pop up if my foot is right.. I guess i'm going to bite the bullet and run a tail pad on a twin haha I'm just not good enough to run it the cool way with no pad. solid video noel. I think this is the single most import technique in surfing aside from just popping up and riding at the very beginning.
Surfing sectiony Beach breaks there is little to no time for foot movement. You better have it set on the drop. Point breaks are a whole different animal completely.
Forgot to mention that it will rip easier because of the centered force. But that is an amazing habit to build. I always end up flying off on big cutbacks.
I feel like getting my back foot all the way on the kick I will fall out the back. Overall it feels very slow to me. Is my front foot wrong? Or any ideas that can help me?
You said you put the pad right on against the leash plug but I heard your suppose to leave at least an inch room for the leash to move both ways. Could I still put it on the leash plug like you said
hey noel, i thinking about buying a Pyzel, im in beetwen the ghost and the shadow. I have a longboard for flat days and a twin fin with extra litrege. I surf on a beach break, i get good waves like 3 times a summer, 4-8 ft on good winter days. What would you reccomend?
Hey Noel this was a good video, but I was wondering could you maybe explain when and where on the wave you start to move your back foot. I noticed when I’m in bigger surf I’m paddling so hard that when I pop up if I feel any traction I immediately think I’m good which leads to lousy turns. But then when I’m on smaller or fun surf I’m so focused on not blowing the wave that I again settle for just feeling the front of the pad. Especially if it’s crowded n I’m not getting a lot of waves. Any suggestions? I appreciate your tips the new videos are the best out online! I know I’ve been berating you with questions but I’m trying to address these problems with my surfing that have made me so frustrated over the yrs that I stopped for a while because I couldn’t get better. But I don’t want to quit, and your videos are revitalizing me. Thanks again
You need to become a Patron and watch all the episodes I’ve done to help improve your surfing. It’s $5.00 per month and we upload 2 new Tutorials every month. There are roughly 20 exclusive episode on multiple topics to watch. Here is the link.... www.patreon.com/surfnshow
What if my board feels like its slowing down in less I’m more forward on it my board so my back foot comes forward as well I’m 5’6 175lbs my go to size is a 5’11 should I be surfing a smaller board?
You could go a little shorter like 5’9. However if you want to keep your speed up then it’s ideal to surf with your footing more forward and learn to move your back foot back and shift your weight back when you want to do critical turns.
Hi Noel, I'm a big fan of your reviews, and I wondered if you could help me. I recently bought an as-new JS Monstabox 2020 in Hyfi construction on Ebay. It was a bargain, and was in the length I wanted (5'9") but unfortunately it was in the more volume-ey size of 27.6L instead of my usual size of around 26.5L - I thought I'd be able to get away with this with it ony being a litre but in the water it feels a bit stiff and 'straight line-ey'. The opposite to my Blakbox III. I'm guessing it's because of the extra volume in the rails making it harder to I'm not sink them. My question is, can you recommend a set of FCS fins which might loosen the board up a bit? I've been using Kolohe Andino in medium (I weigh 65kg).
I feel like when I pop up my back foot doesn’t land in the back should I adjust every time after my pop up or try to pop up landing my back foot in the back
Sorry cannot help you with a comment. I would need to see you surf... and then I can comment. We do virtual Video Coaching. Here is the link to what we offer in coaching. surfnshow.com/pages/video-coaching
@@mitch8131 Don’t try to do a turn until you put your back foot all the way back against the tail kick. If that means that you don’t turn on the first section then that’s ok. The rest of your turns will be solid once you put your foot all the way back
Back foot forward to maximize speed down the line before you boost. I like moving my foot all the way back right before boosting and then move my feet around like a Ollie in skateboarding.
been surfing for 35 yrs.. my back foot is never over the thruster fin.( maybe in solid surf on my backhand). if i purposely move my back foot further back i feel like my stance is to wide and therefore not in control. ..im defiantly a front footed surfer and feel like maybe the fin cluster/bottom contours should be further up the board a touch or something..? in the oc-cast where occy interviews tom curren, curren mentioned how his back foot dances around and how its important to be on the right boards. check out toms lastest ripcurl vid in mexico (free scrubber) and watch his back foot especially in the aerial drone footage..
Ive surfed with pads on a couple of second hand boards, and theyve been great. I think i dont put thwm on my new board because i do t really know how to remove them when they get tatty. Any tips on how to remove one and all the adhesive ? Cheeers!
Easily the most clear and concise surfing channel on TH-cam. Love it, keep it up Noel.
Omg…as someone who is currently working on getting my back foot back far enough…that pad slicing idea is BRILLIANT! Thank you! 🙏🤙🏼
Noel another great review. Back foot placement is so important to get those precise turns and that beautiful carving flow. It is always overlooked from a lot of surfers and in my opinion it will take a surfer to another level if mastered. Repetition is the key.
Sick little point of difference there having something practical and physical that someone can do to get their foot back! Cutting the pad! Not just saying "move your foot back". Legend
Wow, I've been struggling to get my back foot all the way back....this tip has been the most helpful I've seen. Thanks so much!
Incredibly concise and clear.
This dude paid attention in English class.
Loved every second of this.
Noel, thanks for helping me become a better writer/ communicator.
Yew 🤙
Always moving my back foot. Always making sure, I’m locking my back foot on that tail kick.
So that I can maximize my weight, power & precision, going into a sick maneuver.
I see so many surfers with their traction so far up & I wanna tell them, but I don’t want to offend them or come off like I’m trying to belittle or chastise them. So I just say nothing.
I wish surf shops would throw a lil’ more instructiveness towards customer’s buying new or used board’s & traction.
The longer the board the most complicated it is. It's not that obvious on shortboard . I just figured this issue by myself after 5 year of surfing i just have to think about it now, constantly moving my back foot when i want to perform quick turn or manoeuver. I noticed as well it's easy to cheat the need of moving the foot by using a smaller board or smaller fins but it's not the clean or the right way.
bang on.!
been surfing for 35 yrs.. my back foot is never over the thruster fin.( maybe in solid surf on my backhand). if i purposely move my back foot further back i feel like my stance is to wide..im defiantly a front footed surfer and feel like maybe the fin cluster should be further up the board a touch..?
@@MegaMr28 Quad s do that, I surf quad mostly for that reason. Also Snowboarding helps me to get my back foot at the right spot. But it tends to creep back up if I don't snowboard
I work at a surf shop and am gonna keep this comment in mind.
It’s so awesome to get advice from experts that have such ingenious ideas!
So awesome to cut the pad and save it for later. I’d have probably tossed it or lost it until you said to add it in the future. Awesome reviews and tips as always!
The Hobgood traction pad by Octopus really helped me get my foot back.
How does it help?
Great tip on the trac pad arch going half way! :)
thx Noel! and whoever is behind this videos besides Noel!
Awesome hack bro to cut the footpad. Remembers me of the Rocky Balboa training regime using the rubber band around his legs, Keep 'em coming, thanks.
Enjoyed watching thanks!
I like that pad tip (cutting it). Definitely going to think about how I try that with a board that already has a pad (removing them is such a hack)
I do struggle a fair bit getting all the way back there as well, if not consciously doing it, which is a bit annoying at times. Thanks Noel, that's a simple and important one!
Biggest problem I used to have was that I was riding the wrong size short board and my back foot was landing forward of the tail and my front would be in the middle. If I scooted back then I was on the pivot point but behind the planing surface so that back half of the board would sink. Dialing in my board size was the key for me
@Andrew H Ended up going shorter. I am 6' 1" +. Back in '01 i started riding Rich Price boards and went from a 6' 4" swallow tail to a 6' 1" thruster. When I made that step down i felt a dramatic improvement in my surfing. My foot started landing on the tail pad consistently and though I still dont rip, i feel like I can hang in there on the good days
That's not Kevin the minion is it. Just joking but how do you know what is the right length board? Seriously.
Bra exactly what I needed.. my main problem. Thanks for the video! 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽
What a great idea to educate back foot!! Thank you.
NEEDED THIS!
love your videos sal! thnx man!
good tips 👍
That makes sense. Going to try it out. Thank you.
Thanks Noel! Super helpful info.
Hey Noel, thanks for the great community content.
One question:
When is the correct moment to put your foot as far back on the deck as possible?
1) When you are going down the wave to make the dip? That is, before the dig
2) After making the trough and extension of the body, when changing the edge to the curve on the wave wall?
3) Or another moment?
Brilliant idea
Amazing Idea thanks Noel .. legit
Hey Noel I’m intermediate/advanced and this is one reason why I’m not getting any better I’ve been trying to get back foot more on tail to get better turns but I feel like I loose speed and that the sweet spot is further up with my back foot. I guess I just have to keep trying
Great idea to cut the pad
In your opinion, does equipment and pop-up technique impact backfoot placement?
I find that a longer board will have its center more forward, which makes me creep up towards the front unconsciously.
I also realize that further back my hands are, during pop-up, the further back I can be on the board.
Just my observation.
I find that where I lay on the board while paddling for a wave plays the biggest role in where I stand up on the board when I pop up. If I’m laying more back from center then I find my stance further back on the board. Likewise... if I’m laying more in front of center on the board then I stand up more centered on the board. The smaller the board the more exaggerated it feels. For example if the board is 5’0” and I’m laying just little to far back while paddling it’s harder to catch waves and when I pop to my feet I am too far back on the board. My back foot might be all the way back but my front foot is to far back from center. Smaller boards like a 5’0 expose everything quickly... a long board would be similar but less dramatic.
Could you talk about the timing? You slide it back and feel around right before the turn, right? Great video. I see so many people standing in the middle of their boards doing the wiggle and turning their heads but they don't go anywhere.
I talk about the timing on back foot movement in our Tutorials. Hit the link below.... become a Patron and enjoy!
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I just became a Patreon which are the videos that you talk about it in? Thanks
@@aaronjosephs4669 “Generate More speed down the line.”
God ideia man! Thanks from Brasil!
Hey Noel, really enjoy the technical yet honest reviews, advice, and input from you. I got a question..
SpineTek vs carbon wrap vs lightspeed?
Currently on a NB2 SpineTek and love the hell out of the thing. But want something new. I’m mainly looking for durability/performance because I primarily am trying to do airs or surfing hard/not being gentle on my board lol. So basically only going with epoxy these days due to that. Just curious what the durability/performance of the mayhems epoxy is like since I haven’t rode one yet. I’m looking at the driver 2.0 and sub driver 2.0. Don’t feel the need to be really general with input either as I’ve been surfing my entire life in Hawaii and like the technical/specific input.
Thanks again Noel! Hands down one of the best content creators for this kind of stuff and very very helpful not just for myself but for many I’m sure.
The durability on CW and SpineTek is roughly the same. The pop is better in Spinetek... it’s a bit more consistent and predictable. I have not tried Light Speed yet.
considering most beginners ride larger boards to get better paddle power and stability (refering to oversized shortboards here), does it not force (or at least fool) them into a more forward shifted or wider stance? just to get the nose down the line and not get hung up in the lip on takeoff? just my own observations, as much as id love the extra paddle power of bigger board, and id def benefit from the stability it offers, foot placement becomes much trickier, i find my feet are so much easier to place on a boards sized for a more advanced surfers. its the main reason i still try to surf at the lower range of my volume... thoughts?
Agreed... beginners riding bigger boards will have more difficulties turning bigger boards and footing is a bit different. My point is simple... if your riding a big board or HPSB..... get your foot all the way back for precise turns.
I've recently gotten a twin fin (black baron) for the first time and also chose to run no tail pad on it after always running them on my boards. Been surfing it almost exclusively and man is this my number one frustration is how much it completely ruins the wave for me if I don't absolutely nail the sweet spot of the tail. Sometimes the board feels insane and sometimes I feel like its my first day on the job. I struggle to realize when I pop up if my foot is right.. I guess i'm going to bite the bullet and run a tail pad on a twin haha I'm just not good enough to run it the cool way with no pad. solid video noel. I think this is the single most import technique in surfing aside from just popping up and riding at the very beginning.
Agreed… I struggle to surf well without a pad too.
Solid hack Noel! I'm going to try that!
Surfing sectiony Beach breaks there is little to no time for foot movement. You better have it set on the drop. Point breaks are a whole different animal completely.
Forgot to mention that it will rip easier because of the centered force. But that is an amazing habit to build. I always end up flying off on big cutbacks.
Hello, i just bought a 6.8 surfboard. Should I put a pad for my back foot? Or in this size is not worth it? Thanks
I use a pad on every board… even step up boards
I feel like getting my back foot all the way on the kick I will fall out the back. Overall it feels very slow to me. Is my front foot wrong? Or any ideas that can help me?
Dont tell them all the secret.
Thx champ
You said you put the pad right on against the leash plug but I heard your suppose to leave at least an inch room for the leash to move both ways. Could I still put it on the leash plug like you said
hey noel, i thinking about buying a Pyzel, im in beetwen the ghost and the shadow. I have a longboard for flat days and a twin fin with extra litrege. I surf on a beach break, i get good waves like 3 times a summer, 4-8 ft on good winter days. What would you reccomend?
Shadow
Hey Noel this was a good video, but I was wondering could you maybe explain when and where on the wave you start to move your back foot. I noticed when I’m in bigger surf I’m paddling so hard that when I pop up if I feel any traction I immediately think I’m good which leads to lousy turns. But then when I’m on smaller or fun surf I’m so focused on not blowing the wave that I again settle for just feeling the front of the pad. Especially if it’s crowded n I’m not getting a lot of waves. Any suggestions? I appreciate your tips the new videos are the best out online! I know I’ve been berating you with questions but I’m trying to address these problems with my surfing that have made me so frustrated over the yrs that I stopped for a while because I couldn’t get better. But I don’t want to quit, and your videos are revitalizing me. Thanks again
You need to become a Patron and watch all the episodes I’ve done to help improve your surfing. It’s $5.00 per month and we upload 2 new Tutorials every month. There are roughly 20 exclusive episode on multiple topics to watch. Here is the link.... www.patreon.com/surfnshow
@@surfnshowreviews7777 I’m definitely going to
What if my board feels like its slowing down in less I’m more forward on it my board so my back foot comes forward as well I’m 5’6 175lbs my go to size is a 5’11 should I be surfing a smaller board?
You could go a little shorter like 5’9. However if you want to keep your speed up then it’s ideal to surf with your footing more forward and learn to move your back foot back and shift your weight back when you want to do critical turns.
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Just started having to wear booties, makes it a tad tricker feeling out the traction unfortunately.....
Absolutely... tough to feel around with boots
Hi Noel, I'm a big fan of your reviews, and I wondered if you could help me. I recently bought an as-new JS Monstabox 2020 in Hyfi construction on Ebay. It was a bargain, and was in the length I wanted (5'9") but unfortunately it was in the more volume-ey size of 27.6L instead of my usual size of around 26.5L - I thought I'd be able to get away with this with it ony being a litre but in the water it feels a bit stiff and 'straight line-ey'. The opposite to my Blakbox III. I'm guessing it's because of the extra volume in the rails making it harder to I'm not sink them. My question is, can you recommend a set of FCS fins which might loosen the board up a bit? I've been using Kolohe Andino in medium (I weigh 65kg).
Get the Medium or Large Reactors
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Thanks Noel, appreciate the response. Keep up the great work, legend.
I feel like when I pop up my back foot doesn’t land in the back should I adjust every time after my pop up or try to pop up landing my back foot in the back
You need to adjust your back foot everytime
@@surfnshowreviews7777 Can you make a video that shows in detail what the back leg is doing during the pop up and where it is landing?
Noel, when are you getting your mad skills onto a Glazer?👌
Still waiting for boards
Hey didn’t see this on the Patreon account ?
We are only putting this on You Tube for now. Some of our Patrons don’t want to mix it up with the Tutorials. What do you think?
Hey Noel, do you have another way except patreon for the vid? Not sure how much they charge you but I d rather pay you directly.
Sorry only Patreon at this time
Driver 2 or sub driver 2 places n the vid?
Driver 2.0 in this video
i'm regular and i tend to have a problem going right can you please help
Sorry cannot help you with a comment. I would need to see you surf... and then I can comment. We do virtual Video Coaching. Here is the link to what we offer in coaching.
surfnshow.com/pages/video-coaching
same for twin fins?
Yes... I use a traction pad on every style board.
#astrodeck Herbie Fletcher is the KING of traction
I already have putted my traction pad in my board. So how can I exercise my back foot placement?
Rip your pad off and put on a new one and cut the new one. Or disciplined yourself to get your back foot all the way back on your current pad.
@@surfnshowreviews7777 How do you discipline yourself? I been trying
@@mitch8131 Don’t try to do a turn until you put your back foot all the way back against the tail kick. If that means that you don’t turn on the first section then that’s ok. The rest of your turns will be solid once you put your foot all the way back
genius
Top The Top 🤙🏾
Foot all the way back for airs ?
Back foot forward to maximize speed down the line before you boost. I like moving my foot all the way back right before boosting and then move my feet around like a Ollie in skateboarding.
been surfing for 35 yrs.. my back foot is never over the thruster fin.( maybe in solid surf on my backhand). if i purposely move my back foot further back i feel like my stance is to wide and therefore not in control. ..im defiantly a front footed surfer and feel like maybe the fin cluster/bottom contours should be further up the board a touch or something..? in the oc-cast where occy interviews tom curren, curren mentioned how his back foot dances around and how its important to be on the right boards. check out toms lastest ripcurl vid in mexico (free scrubber) and watch his back foot especially in the aerial drone footage..
Ive surfed with pads on a couple of second hand boards, and theyve been great. I think i dont put thwm on my new board because i do t really know how to remove them when they get tatty. Any tips on how to remove one and all the adhesive ? Cheeers!
Look for another Surf Tip I did on Traction placement. I give tips there
Join patreon with a monthly payment and you have access to all your videos?
Yes
put on booties and the feeling is gone
Just farted.