The Hood and Superior Iron Man are placed in the attached sheet. Both are excellent champions. Thank you for bringing this error to our attention and to the Spreadsheet Wizards for the incredibly quick fix!
I have ascended Hood, love him but like juggernaut, you can mess up with Bullets etc.. he's also not a defender. Hood with synergies is a different MONSTER
SIM is so easy to use with a pretty quick ramp up, for any content outside Battlegrounds, I think he’s the top Cosmic 7*. Mine is Rank 2, and I’m generating 200k+ specials after several fights with Dare Devil synergy fight to fight ramp, after just 1 cycle. He’s definitely elite absent maybe Battlegrounds absent synergies.
I genuinely believe that Spiderham is Tier above all. Insane damage. Degen resistance (such an amazing utility). Defender & attacker. Simple & non risky playstyle. The pig delivers.
Agreed. He’s also the only amazing champion with degen resistance or immunity. Mr Negs is alright and Glad Hulk is useless. His small health pool shouldn’t be a factor anymore as a 7*
Gotta agree here. Absolute nuke with a damage type that gets around various obstacles. Even has strong survivability with nonsense and taunt plus max inequity. I have won by intentionally tanking an L3 multiple times.
@@Vega583 Some people can't sit through the whole video, also the probability a person has a class gem.. and would only like to listen to the opinion based off the class we're interested about.
It feels like 90% of these champs have the "depends on awakening" star next to them... with the infrequency of getting 7*s dupes, I feel like the stars are being used VERY VERY liberally to the point that they're pretty much meaningless if they're on almost everyone.
Was really surprised to not see The Hood here especially now that he’s out as a 7*!? At any rate, huge thanks to you and the gang for all the hard work that goes into this!
I still say Warlock covers the same amount of bases (if not more) as Shuri but with triple immunity. There for imo making him better. But as always much love vega
Not surprised that they use your tier list internally at MCOC. I have never been let down when going by it. I share with newer players as well. Great stuff.
Glad to see cheeilth ranked highly Owner of r3 cheeilth here I felt so good when kabam added her as 7* of the month cos ive been trying to dupe mine for awhile. She's probably the most underrated champion in the game INSANE DAMAGE probably has the highest damage potential in the skill class only one i think is above her is kate. Can work for LOTS OF FIGHTS with the awakening She'll only rise as the community starts to get their hands on her
Prowler is a great option for Attuma, can do it full health with MM only using the miss to sidestep. Just posted a video last night (with some light attacks taking minimal damage back) if anyone is interested.
I think Bullseye is worth tier above all with how hard he hits at r3 with crit damage stat focus and black panther relic. As the game grows into r6 7*s, I think Bullseye will be one of my first rank ups for each rank along with Onslaught, and not just for defense.
My sig 140 Knull is an all around great champ. His damage is wild at r3 with sig + 6* venom relic … auto block and evade counter makes him great for tons of tough matchups like red skull and even bullseye. If anyone has a sig 80+ Knull, I promise you will not regret the r3
Feels like there’s been a big increase in the amount of 7* available in the last few weeks, with the crucible & all the events I’ve been able to get 12 7*. After all those rank up options I’ve already got a new r2 & r3 with 5 more r2 possible & 9.1 coming soon.
I would pick spiderham over titania and silk to R3. For cosmic Serpent meastro and Venom are R3 worth 7* Skill is just a mediocre class except for Bullseye and BlackCat. They need new additions like Hitmonkey or Valkyrie as a 7 star. Skill is just to much defence based
imo werewolf by knight is easily the best mystic, he can cast such a wide net of match ups the other mystics cannot match, he basically all the "meta" defenders, granted he takes a lot of skill for these mathcs ups but he still shines where others cant. When it comes to aw wolf is my fav attacker because he just dose it all, he can bypass nearly all the nodes present just by hitting into block and letting those ruptures tickle down, he's also a amazing serpent counter for the same reason, when duped you always finish full health, bro I could rant forever about wolf but in short he is up there with the likes of chavez and kushala, I'd also argue juggs should be brought down a peg cause sure he's great when he can work but the problem is he hasn't worked for a lot of recent bg metas and he cant take a variety of powerful meta defenders.
Kind of frustrating that most of these champs need very high sig when most players won't even have them duped. Feels on purpose. Love seeing Adam Warlock getting the rub, he's been great for me and I like how his playing style is different. Differences can be fun in a ten year old game.
I know it's situational for each account, but I just finished 9.1 exploration and I'm torn on my next R3 Mystic. It's down to sig 40 Sasquatch, or unduped Werewolf by Night. Run some, but not a ton of BG Don't run AW in my alliance at all Most everest content is 100% done, except a few paths of Necropolis left, not that either champ is a standout for Necropolis. Thoughts?
@vega quick question, is thing awakened at sig 40 good option for r3. Mainly for defence in aw and bgs. Or is it worth to invest in other champs, or new champs. Thanks in advance
Since R3ing and using her more often, I’m a proponent of Ironheart moving up. I know the tier she’s in is great but I feel like I’d take her over guardian for example.
I’ve got myself into a position where I can r2 a few champs (I just finished act 8 and am still paragon) and I was curious (all unawakened) who to rank 2 : spidey classic , spiderpunk, sassy , shocker , iron man (og) and iw
Great content as usual, but I feel like it still amounts to a lot of champs that are all worthy of a rank up (with some obvious relative values based on ranking). I wonder if there is a way for a tier list to help capture relative value based on progression / roster size. For example, you mentioned the value of Ultron, especially given his rarity. But you also acknowledged the value you found in Hawkeye on your prime account - a champ few would call OP. How do we highlight the relative value of those champs once considered only 'decent' that will help players with smaller rosters really chunk through content? Maybe a "Top 50 mid-tier champs the community may be sleeping on" video? I'm just spitballin'
@@barongreenhouse2312 we do try our best to capture this in our rankings. It’s honestly part of why we don’t show and rank every champion in the game. Some just aren’t worth it. Thank you for the suggestion and ideas
@@Vega583 Makes sense ... and I appreciate everything the Illuminati does to try and provide context and perspective. Most folks don't need advice to rank up an OP champ, and if the champ is on the other end of the spectrum, only the true fans are ranking them up. But for everything in between, it feels like the differentiation is shrinking ... but I don't know how to articulate a better way of looking at the problem :) So I'll just say thanks and keep up the awesome work!
Im searching for reasons to level up my Shocker Im waiting til Banquet in case i get him as a 7 star but i think hes still great and if the change in Rewards is true then im gonna have enough resources to spare to rank and ascend him any Advice?
I wouldn’t be reliant on banquet, someone at kabam said yesterday that they’d look at add last years gifted guardian champs to the 7* basic pool in December or February which would hint that the banquet pool would be different this year.
@@datedwizard989 that would be dope af, really want most of the 7 stars from there I got Sandman last year…. Rn im leveling Prowler tho so might as well wait a little
Who was the creator he mentioned for wong breakdown at about the 4:10 mark? Sounds like normax or normad, but I can't find a channel with a similar name
I fail to understand how Falcon, a champion who can literally counter 99% of all defensive abilities, who shuts down all the annoying stuff, is not at least Scorching. Why? Because elitist players think his simple to play? That's the point.
The Hood and Superior Iron Man are placed in the attached sheet. Both are excellent champions. Thank you for bringing this error to our attention and to the Spreadsheet Wizards for the incredibly quick fix!
I have ascended Hood, love him but like juggernaut, you can mess up with Bullets etc.. he's also not a defender. Hood with synergies is a different MONSTER
SIM is so easy to use with a pretty quick ramp up, for any content outside Battlegrounds, I think he’s the top Cosmic 7*. Mine is Rank 2, and I’m generating 200k+ specials after several fights with Dare Devil synergy fight to fight ramp, after just 1 cycle. He’s definitely elite absent maybe Battlegrounds absent synergies.
I genuinely believe that Spiderham is Tier above all. Insane damage. Degen resistance (such an amazing utility). Defender & attacker. Simple & non risky playstyle. The pig delivers.
Agreed. He’s also the only amazing champion with degen resistance or immunity. Mr Negs is alright and Glad Hulk is useless. His small health pool shouldn’t be a factor anymore as a 7*
He’s the best science. Enough said. Hulk and Titania aren’t good defenders compared to him and even on offense Ham nukes anything that can be debuffed
Gotta agree here. Absolute nuke with a damage type that gets around various obstacles. Even has strong survivability with nonsense and taunt plus max inequity. I have won by intentionally tanking an L3 multiple times.
@@calvatronicmister negative is far better than alright, he also actively heals from the degen making him much better for it
Ham is the only Science in the higher tiers that doesn’t require awakening. Just saying
0:00 intro
1:50 mystic
5:15 mutant
9:07 science
14:06 tech
18:50 skill
22:36 cosmic
@@pricknown1840 Ooc why did you do this? Genuinely wondering. Thank you
@@Vega583 Some people can't sit through the whole video, also the probability a person has a class gem.. and would only like to listen to the opinion based off the class we're interested about.
@Vega583 it was just something I would have liked in the previous editions so decided to put it for whoever else has use for it
Half hour video, he helped clean it up for those that wanted
It feels like 90% of these champs have the "depends on awakening" star next to them... with the infrequency of getting 7*s dupes, I feel like the stars are being used VERY VERY liberally to the point that they're pretty much meaningless if they're on almost everyone.
Was really surprised to not see The Hood here especially now that he’s out as a 7*!? At any rate, huge thanks to you and the gang for all the hard work that goes into this!
Yeah that was an oversight. The linked sheet had him in his appropriate place now.
👏🏽
Came here looking for Hood and was surprised not to see him on the list
I still say Warlock covers the same amount of bases (if not more) as Shuri but with triple immunity. There for imo making him better. But as always much love vega
Not surprised that they use your tier list internally at MCOC. I have never been let down when going by it. I share with newer players as well. Great stuff.
Huge thank you!
Glad to see cheeilth ranked highly
Owner of r3 cheeilth here
I felt so good when kabam added her as 7* of the month cos ive been trying to dupe mine for awhile.
She's probably the most underrated champion in the game
INSANE DAMAGE probably has the highest damage potential in the skill class only one i think is above her is kate.
Can work for LOTS OF FIGHTS with the awakening
She'll only rise as the community starts to get their hands on her
Agreed - took mine to r2 a few days before Kabam announced she's going to be a giveaway champ, so I can get her Awakened - awesome!
Prowler is a great option for Attuma, can do it full health with MM only using the miss to sidestep. Just posted a video last night (with some light attacks taking minimal damage back) if anyone is interested.
I always forget about Prowler. Great call!!!
I think Bullseye is worth tier above all with how hard he hits at r3 with crit damage stat focus and black panther relic. As the game grows into r6 7*s, I think Bullseye will be one of my first rank ups for each rank along with Onslaught, and not just for defense.
My sig 140 Knull is an all around great champ. His damage is wild at r3 with sig + 6* venom relic … auto block and evade counter makes him great for tons of tough matchups like red skull and even bullseye. If anyone has a sig 80+ Knull, I promise you will not regret the r3
Shaaaaaaaaaaaaduup
he's my first 7r2 champion
My7* R3 Sig80 Knull was the main reason I just finished 9.1
Time to give Mr Negative another look. R3 Mr Neg shreds a ton of content and that degen resistance is 🔥
Do it! Just duped mine not to long ago, and got a r2 and r3 gem a while back. Very tempted to use them on him once I sharpen up my skill with him
Feels like there’s been a big increase in the amount of 7* available in the last few weeks, with the crucible & all the events I’ve been able to get 12 7*. After all those rank up options I’ve already got a new r2 & r3 with 5 more r2 possible & 9.1 coming soon.
21:29 Shuri
Vega howtta hell you still got spot on tier yes!! I kill photons, onslaught and even serpents with him
I would pick spiderham over titania and silk to R3.
For cosmic Serpent meastro and Venom are R3 worth
7* Skill is just a mediocre class except for Bullseye and BlackCat. They need new additions like Hitmonkey or Valkyrie as a 7 star. Skill is just to much defence based
Now they’re finally giving punisher 2099 respect
I just got em & was immediately impressed but I was going to R2 Spider-Punk regardless
imo werewolf by knight is easily the best mystic, he can cast such a wide net of match ups the other mystics cannot match, he basically all the "meta" defenders, granted he takes a lot of skill for these mathcs ups but he still shines where others cant. When it comes to aw wolf is my fav attacker because he just dose it all, he can bypass nearly all the nodes present just by hitting into block and letting those ruptures tickle down, he's also a amazing serpent counter for the same reason, when duped you always finish full health, bro I could rant forever about wolf but in short he is up there with the likes of chavez and kushala, I'd also argue juggs should be brought down a peg cause sure he's great when he can work but the problem is he hasn't worked for a lot of recent bg metas and he cant take a variety of powerful meta defenders.
He can take serpent??
@@nestord8912 yeah of course
This was tremendously helpful. Good work as always.
I rank 3 my capiw a while ago and he's alot of fun even at a low sig as long as you don't need the utility so much damage
Ultron is my favorite champ as a maxed 6*: power control, immune to everything, solid regen, heavy hitter. Ill rank him up asap once I get him as a 7*
Kind of frustrating that most of these champs need very high sig when most players won't even have them duped. Feels on purpose. Love seeing Adam Warlock getting the rub, he's been great for me and I like how his playing style is different. Differences can be fun in a ten year old game.
My r1 kindred been putting on work so I ranked him up to r2. Very pleased by his work lol
I know it's situational for each account, but I just finished 9.1 exploration and I'm torn on my next R3 Mystic. It's down to sig 40 Sasquatch, or unduped Werewolf by Night.
Run some, but not a ton of BG
Don't run AW in my alliance at all
Most everest content is 100% done, except a few paths of Necropolis left, not that either champ is a standout for Necropolis.
Thoughts?
I’d love it if kabam keeps r4s away for at least for another year or two lol
@vega quick question, is thing awakened at sig 40 good option for r3. Mainly for defence in aw and bgs. Or is it worth to invest in other champs, or new champs. Thanks in advance
What exact spot would you place the new count nefaria in since I just got him
Since R3ing and using her more often, I’m a proponent of Ironheart moving up. I know the tier she’s in is great but I feel like I’d take her over guardian for example.
Over Guardian? Woah....
Am i missing something about guardian? I dont think he's that great, i have him as a 7* i dont even use @Vega583
I’ve got myself into a position where I can r2 a few champs (I just finished act 8 and am still paragon) and I was curious (all unawakened) who to rank 2 : spidey classic , spiderpunk, sassy , shocker , iron man (og) and iw
Great content as usual, but I feel like it still amounts to a lot of champs that are all worthy of a rank up (with some obvious relative values based on ranking). I wonder if there is a way for a tier list to help capture relative value based on progression / roster size. For example, you mentioned the value of Ultron, especially given his rarity. But you also acknowledged the value you found in Hawkeye on your prime account - a champ few would call OP. How do we highlight the relative value of those champs once considered only 'decent' that will help players with smaller rosters really chunk through content? Maybe a "Top 50 mid-tier champs the community may be sleeping on" video? I'm just spitballin'
@@barongreenhouse2312 we do try our best to capture this in our rankings. It’s honestly part of why we don’t show and rank every champion in the game. Some just aren’t worth it. Thank you for the suggestion and ideas
@@Vega583 Makes sense ... and I appreciate everything the Illuminati does to try and provide context and perspective. Most folks don't need advice to rank up an OP champ, and if the champ is on the other end of the spectrum, only the true fans are ranking them up. But for everything in between, it feels like the differentiation is shrinking ... but I don't know how to articulate a better way of looking at the problem :) So I'll just say thanks and keep up the awesome work!
I have Wags r2 duped, he needs to move up. Recoils (1/3) with 3 prowess = 125-150k sp1
Im searching for reasons to level up my Shocker
Im waiting til Banquet in case i get him as a 7 star but i think hes still great and if the change in Rewards is true then im gonna have enough resources to spare to rank and ascend him any Advice?
I wouldn’t be reliant on banquet, someone at kabam said yesterday that they’d look at add last years gifted guardian champs to the 7* basic pool in December or February which would hint that the banquet pool would be different this year.
@@datedwizard989 that would be dope af, really want most of the 7 stars from there
I got Sandman last year….
Rn im leveling Prowler tho so might as well wait a little
Who was the creator he mentioned for wong breakdown at about the 4:10 mark? Sounds like normax or normad, but I can't find a channel with a similar name
Normax but I just checked and all of their videos are gone. I apologize
@@Vega583 Sign of the times. Very few quality mcoc creators left. Keep up the good work. It's greatly appreciated.
Bishop as good as onslaught.
Is 7* Serpent worth Rk 3 w/o a dupe?
Lagacy crying from corner after listening to kabam crash regarding vegas tier list usage
Thanks for the guidance!
Nice List! I am stuck between Mole man and Masacre who to R2?
I’d say mole man but massacre can take fights quick in bgs if that’s you main priority.
Would you R2 duped Chee’lth or duped Crossbones?
4:09 used em for 2 paths easily worth it Wong can come through
Magneto is to low please check out some of the 7* content that’s come out since the selectors I think you’ll be impressed!
What is the vega discord?
What happened to Archangel?He seemed to have been missing in the tier list….Hope he hasn’t fallen off for Battlegrounds usage
Edit:Just realised that this was a 7* rarity tier list…my bad
How is Howard the duck so low on your tier list?
IDK if i should awaken my 7* spider punk or 7* white tiger? any ideas
Punk needs it much more
@@birbmanjones9862 yh i went for punk and just hope i awaken white tiger thru crytals
I fail to understand how Falcon, a champion who can literally counter 99% of all defensive abilities, who shuts down all the annoying stuff, is not at least Scorching. Why? Because elitist players think his simple to play? That's the point.
low damage, shitty ability accuracy cooldown . and Boring
@@phasetolead4595 you sound like someone who never used Falcon.
I believe this tier list is missing Toad?
Where is Vega in mutant?
He he. My r3 Gamora destroy everything.
I would bump domino up apart from that good list
Would you R3 unduped serpent?
As an owner of a r3 unduped serpent I’d say yes.
Arcade? No?
My r3 sig 80 spider punk is taking down so many champs in bgs sub 30 seconds this meta
I’m 600 t4 frags away to take my punk to r3. He’s been melting absman in bgs.
Did you forget hood ?
Just fixed link should be good now, thanks for noticing!
Please add hood in mystic
I think htd and wmags should be super hot
Wow, first
First?
hello there fellow human, request the discord invite please. thanks