Great video Tim! I offered to buy you a shot at The Farnsworth house but you declined. It was April 6th and you were on your way to meet Martin Sheen so you get a pass. My girlfriend and I were visiting from Providence. NEXT TIME we’re doing one however! 🥃🥃
i app ur take & ur knowledge to me on this u tube & to my living room, i feel very fortunate to listin to this on u tube at my house in nov of 2024, i read k matterson book & suggest others to read it also,,
The thing is, both armies were exhausted and worn out. Neither side in any shape for more battle. I like your point about how Meade is blamed for his officers actions while Lee isn't held accountable for his officers.
Lee Blames Self at Gettysburg After the Battle of Gettysburg, Robert E. Lee took responsibility for the Confederate defeat. In a letter to President Jefferson Davis, Lee wrote: “No blame can be attached to the army for its failure to accomplish what was projected by me, nor should it be censured for the unreasonable expectations of the public. I am alone to blame, in perhaps expecting too much of its prowess & valor.” Lee acknowledged that he had expected too much from his army and took personal responsibility for the failure to achieve a victory at Gettysburg. He believed that with the knowledge he had at the time and the circumstances he was in, he did not know what better course he could have pursued. This self-reflection and willingness to accept blame demonstrate Lee’s character and leadership style. Despite the defeat, Lee maintained his confidence in his army’s abilities and believed that they had achieved a “general success” under difficult circumstances.
Meade had 16,000 rested and equipped troops in a single corps (the VI) available to pursue Lee. He also had the Federal cavalry and it's horse artillery. Further, he knew where Lee was going as the cavalry was trailing the retreating ANV. And finally, it started raining on July 4th and kept raining for the the next several days. As a result, the Potomac River was over flood stage at the two fords nearest to Gettysburg - at Williamsport and Falling Waters both in Maryland trapping Lee on the Maryland side of the river. On the other hand, the ANV had an enormous bagge train of wagons carrying wounded soldiers and walking captured Federals. Their supplies of food and ammunition were all but exhausted and what they did have was getting soaked every hour by the rain. But what they did have was a great belief in Robert E. Lee. But because Meade had dragged his feet in starting after Lee, the rain finally stopped, the Potomac started dropping and Lee got two pontoon bridges across the river which he then destroyed thus making good his escape back to old Virginia.
Military doctors in the Civil War treated both Northern wounded and Southern wounded without regard to their uniforms. Accordingly, military doctors were as a rule not taken as prisoners by either side. They as a rule were non-combat soldiers. Most didn't carry a sword or if they did carry a sword it was not really a "weapon" as they did not sharpen the swords and the blades were not thick enough to use in combat.Their swords were ceremonial badges of rank. Have you ever seen any pictures of those swords? Most also didn't even carry a "sidearm" such as a pistol, and did not shoot at "enemy" soldiers. Accordingly, in recognition of the military doctors practice of treating anyone that needed medical attention, their practice of not shooting at other soldiers regardless of the uniform they wore, and their unarmed positions, both Yankee and Rebel military doctors were not taken as POWS by the other armies. After all, the wounded soldiers were firstly "Americans", and they might be "the enemy" today, those doctors saw the wounded as patients first.
The 35th Battalion, under Captain Elijah V. White, was one of the first Confederate units to arrive in Gettysburg, chasing off Pennsylvania militia on June 26, 1863, during an expedition to the Susquehanna River. His battalion was nicknamed "White's Comanches".
I believe its a documented FACT, as a result of the numerous mini balls and cannon fire, that the apples growing in the various Musselman Farms around the area became smashed & pulped and gave the family the idea to create applesauce which provided them riches for decades.😆
14:46 historians, alternate historians, and video gamers and tabletop gamers are all anguished about the lack of contribution by the sixth core of Sedgwick. I've played several Gettysburg video games and there he is with all those fresh large regiments and you want to do something with them. They're just right there to be used
Really great... But how to do you really feel about Custer holding the pass? I hear the Confederates had so many bullets, they would blot out the sun. Then Custer said, "WE WILL FIGHT IN THE SHADE!!!!!"
It's funny that having won a very expensive battle with huge casualties despite winning and with troops spread over quite a large area that the victor can suddenly gather their forces and chase the loser even if you know they are retreating
It was the first time I've heared this speaker, and he is very knowledgeable in his area of expertise. Overall, however, I was disappointed because he dwelled too much on extraneous facts (buildings, etc.) and did not stay on point.
Thank you. I do have a disagreement with part of Mr. Smith's analysis. Mr. Smith seems to say that a primary objective of MG Meade was properly retaining control of Gettysburg. But, Lincoln and Grant seemed to have disagreed with this strategy. Didn't Lincoln tell Grant that his objective was the Army of Northern Virginia? But, I do agree that Meade can't be faulted for not pursuing Lee more aggressively after Gettysburg.
At this point in the Civil War (July 1863) Maj Gen Grant is the commander of The Army Of the Tennessee and is receiving the surrender of Vicksburg (July 4 1863). Lincoln promoted grant to LtGen in March 1864 and put him in command of all armies and at which time he became Meade’s boss.
@Mr_Ming0364 - it was Lincoln articulating his vision of what was a key (arguably, the primary) enemy center of gravity and therefore the proper focus of Union army efforts.
I agree that the orchestration of all the moving parts of the retreat was one of Lee's finest movements. It's a shame more people don't think of it that way.
That presentation was so enjoyable,a very talented, excellent speaker.
Another interesting presentation, always enjoy them.
Fantastic as always!
Thanks Tim
Nice job Tim - thank you!
The best to do it! His delivery while mixing in some Tim humor invites you into the story deeper.
Great video Tim!
I offered to buy you a shot at The Farnsworth house but you declined. It was April 6th and you were on your way to meet Martin Sheen so you get a pass. My girlfriend and I were visiting from Providence.
NEXT TIME we’re doing one however! 🥃🥃
Thanks for sharing this.
i app ur take & ur knowledge to me on this u tube & to my living room, i feel very fortunate to listin to this on u tube at my house in nov of 2024, i read k matterson book & suggest others to read it also,,
Great job Tim, one of your best.
Wonderful! Thanks! I've driven the original route over Jack's Mountain. I would love to see that big map of South Mountain.
The thing is, both armies were exhausted and worn out. Neither side in any shape for more battle. I like your point about how Meade is blamed for his officers actions while Lee isn't held accountable for his officers.
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Lee Blames Self at Gettysburg
After the Battle of Gettysburg, Robert E. Lee took responsibility for the Confederate defeat. In a letter to President Jefferson Davis, Lee wrote: “No blame can be attached to the army for its failure to accomplish what was projected by me, nor should it be censured for the unreasonable expectations of the public. I am alone to blame, in perhaps expecting too much of its prowess & valor.”
Lee acknowledged that he had expected too much from his army and took personal responsibility for the failure to achieve a victory at Gettysburg. He believed that with the knowledge he had at the time and the circumstances he was in, he did not know what better course he could have pursued.
This self-reflection and willingness to accept blame demonstrate Lee’s character and leadership style. Despite the defeat, Lee maintained his confidence in his army’s abilities and believed that they had achieved a “general success” under difficult circumstances.
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Meade had 16,000 rested and equipped troops in a single corps (the VI) available to pursue Lee. He also had the Federal cavalry and it's horse artillery. Further, he knew where Lee was going as the cavalry was trailing the retreating ANV. And finally, it started raining on July 4th and kept raining for the the next several days. As a result, the Potomac River was over flood stage at the two fords nearest to Gettysburg - at Williamsport and Falling Waters both in Maryland trapping Lee on the Maryland side of the river.
On the other hand, the ANV had an enormous bagge train of wagons carrying wounded soldiers and walking captured Federals. Their supplies of food and ammunition were all but exhausted and what they did have was getting soaked every hour by the rain. But what they did have was a great belief in Robert E. Lee.
But because Meade had dragged his feet in starting after Lee, the rain finally stopped, the Potomac started dropping and Lee got two pontoon bridges across the river which he then destroyed thus making good his escape back to old Virginia.
Military doctors in the Civil War treated both Northern wounded and Southern wounded without regard to their uniforms. Accordingly, military doctors were as a rule not taken as prisoners by either side. They as a rule were non-combat soldiers. Most didn't carry a sword or if they did carry a sword it was not really a "weapon" as they did not sharpen the swords and the blades were not thick enough to use in combat.Their swords were ceremonial badges of rank. Have you ever seen any pictures of those swords? Most also didn't even carry a "sidearm" such as a pistol, and did not shoot at "enemy" soldiers. Accordingly, in recognition of the military doctors practice of treating anyone that needed medical attention, their practice of not shooting at other soldiers regardless of the uniform they wore, and their unarmed positions, both Yankee and Rebel military doctors were not taken as POWS by the other armies. After all, the wounded soldiers were firstly "Americans", and they might be "the enemy" today, those doctors saw the wounded as patients first.
Great Program! Anyone know where the book can be found?
The 35th Battalion, under Captain Elijah V. White, was one of the first Confederate units to arrive in Gettysburg, chasing off Pennsylvania militia on June 26, 1863, during an expedition to the Susquehanna River. His battalion was nicknamed "White's Comanches".
I am sure I discuss that unit is one or two of my videos. I think I have one called Jubal Early's Raid.
@@timothysmith7742 I'll look for your video about Jubal Early's Raid. Thanks very much.
McClellan was the first general to soundly defeat Lee at Malvern Hill, South Mountain as well.
I believe its a documented FACT, as a result of the numerous mini balls and cannon fire, that the apples growing in the various Musselman Farms around the area became smashed & pulped and gave the family the idea to create applesauce which provided them riches for decades.😆
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14:46 historians, alternate historians, and video gamers and tabletop gamers are all anguished about the lack of contribution by the sixth core of Sedgwick. I've played several Gettysburg video games and there he is with all those fresh large regiments and you want to do something with them. They're just right there to be used
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People had never heard of George Meade, old goggle-eyed snapping turtle General Meade
How do I get these maps of Fairfield and or the book if there is one
I think I used maps from a LBG seminar
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Really great... But how to do you really feel about Custer holding the pass? I hear the Confederates had so many bullets, they would blot out the sun. Then Custer said, "WE WILL FIGHT IN THE SHADE!!!!!"
It's funny that having won a very expensive battle with huge casualties despite winning and with troops spread over quite a large area that the victor can suddenly gather their forces and chase the loser even if you know they are retreating
It was the first time I've heared this speaker, and he is very knowledgeable in his area of expertise. Overall, however, I was disappointed because he dwelled too much on extraneous facts (buildings, etc.) and did not stay on point.
but tim... i think meade did a great job overall considering he just was made boss
Loved the presentation but wtf is a "Tavren?" Almost had Tavern. haha
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Thank you. I do have a disagreement with part of Mr. Smith's analysis. Mr. Smith seems to say that a primary objective of MG Meade was properly retaining control of Gettysburg. But, Lincoln and Grant seemed to have disagreed with this strategy. Didn't Lincoln tell Grant that his objective was the Army of Northern Virginia? But, I do agree that Meade can't be faulted for not pursuing Lee more aggressively after Gettysburg.
You are very wrong buddy
At this point in the Civil War (July 1863) Maj Gen Grant is the commander of The Army Of the Tennessee and is receiving the surrender of Vicksburg (July 4 1863). Lincoln promoted grant to LtGen in March 1864 and put him in command of all armies and at which time he became Meade’s boss.
@Mr_Ming0364 - of course. And I believe Lincoln's instructions to grant upon his promotion to command of all us armies was as I indicated.
@@marchess286yes but that was 8 months later and had nothing to do with Gettysburg.
@Mr_Ming0364 - it was Lincoln articulating his vision of what was a key (arguably, the primary) enemy center of gravity and therefore the proper focus of Union army efforts.
“tavren”? How about “tavern”?
great talk tim. but lee was still the better general.....
I agree that the orchestration of all the moving parts of the retreat was one of Lee's finest movements. It's a shame more people don't think of it that way.