Nice, large falcons are the reason I'm getting into falconry. My sponsor has had peregrines for a long time I'll ask him what he thinks about the differences in subspecies!
Sweet!!!!! Hope you enjoy it. It is a pretty practical book. I tried to make the illustrations as easy to follow as possible. You’ll get a kick out of the stories in back.
One caveat: As Clayton White explained - pretty much all the phenotypic variation seen across all subspecies, are also found within a single subspecies just varying frequency.
I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on the cassini, my pallid male seems to be coming along great. But he's my first big falcon so I don't have much to compare him to.
Ben, First let me say that I really enjoy your videos. Thank you for taking the time to post these. I realize that they take a tremendous amount of your time and effort in collecting and editing footage. Time you could be out flying your birds. My question is what subspecies of eastern falcon is currently declared extinct? Is that both in the wild and captivity? I live here in the eastern U.S. and there seems to be some debate on this. Best Regards, Paul M.
The two races of the Barbary Falcon, pelegrinoides and babylonicus, are often regarded as subspecies of F. peregrinus (Brown and Amadon 1968, Stresemann and Amadon 1979, Brown et al. 1982, del Hoyo et al. 1994), but many recent authors have followed Vaurie (1961), who treated them as a separate species. Birds breeding on the Canary Islands show haplotypes of both F. p. pelegrinoides and F. peregrinus brookei, according to a preliminary study carried out on Fuerteventura Island (Amengual et al. 1996). Wink et al. (2000) also found low genetic variation (
Ben, would like to see something on the Black Shaheen (Falco peregrinus peregrinator). I've see a Red Naped Shaheen in action and they are impressive. The old British falconers in Indian spoke highly of the Black Shaheen but you don't hear of anyone in the states working with them.
Once again a great video! I have a question: many falconers told me that sakers are more suitable than preregrines for lure work, because they are more reliable, consistent and don't fly that high. Do you agree? Do you find that some specific falcons are more suitable than others for lure work? Thank you
Great video. Can you send a link to your sticky footed video. In my experience Anatum’s are definitely more puppy dog like. Very tame, almost too tame. Even chamber birds can become imprint like, often bonding so much with the falconer they start to scream if not hunted constantly. Where as like you said the Peales is much bigger and can be more aggressive. Especially towards the falconer. It’s been said that if you’re a Goshawker a Peales is almost as crazy as a goshawk. Where as an Anatum is more like a red tail as far as tameness. Both are worthy falconry birds. But the Peales takes a while longer to mature and really get going. Where the Anatum has more migratory pressure so they must mature quickly and so it’s much easier to be successful hunting them right off the bat. Same with Cassini, Fijian, or Macropus. Not a lot of migratory pressure so they mature very slowly. My Peales is nearing the end of the second season and is still in play mode. But that’s my fault 😂
Nice, large falcons are the reason I'm getting into falconry. My sponsor has had peregrines for a long time I'll ask him what he thinks about the differences in subspecies!
Hey Ben! Just won your trapping guide at a local falconry meet. I can't wait to read it!
Sweet!!!!! Hope you enjoy it. It is a pretty practical book. I tried to make the illustrations as easy to follow as possible. You’ll get a kick out of the stories in back.
Great info. An Anatum is a bucket list bird. How about a video on Saker vs. Goshawk for a level flight waterfowl and upland game hunting?
Very interesting Ben. As always.
Wow, those young, black Peales look really cool! I wish I could have a Anatum, though. lol. Thanks for your knowledge & comparison insights! 😊
One caveat: As Clayton White explained - pretty much all the phenotypic variation seen across all subspecies, are also found within a single subspecies just varying frequency.
Absolutely fabulous to watch
Great video Ben! Do you have any footage/photos of a Peales Peregrine on a Canada Goose?
I'd love to hear more of your thoughts on the cassini, my pallid male seems to be coming along great. But he's my first big falcon so I don't have much to compare him to.
Ben, First let me say that I really enjoy your videos. Thank you for taking the time to post these. I realize that they take a tremendous amount of your time and effort in collecting and editing footage. Time you could be out flying your birds.
My question is what subspecies of eastern falcon is currently declared extinct? Is that both in the wild and captivity? I live here in the eastern U.S. and there seems to be some debate on this.
Best Regards,
Paul M.
It is an anatum, it is not extinct
The two races of the Barbary Falcon, pelegrinoides and babylonicus, are often regarded as subspecies of F. peregrinus (Brown and Amadon 1968, Stresemann and Amadon 1979, Brown et al. 1982, del Hoyo et al. 1994), but many recent authors have followed Vaurie (1961), who treated them as a separate species. Birds breeding on the Canary Islands show haplotypes of both F. p. pelegrinoides and F. peregrinus brookei, according to a preliminary study carried out on Fuerteventura Island (Amengual et al. 1996).
Wink et al. (2000) also found low genetic variation (
Ben, would like to see something on the Black Shaheen (Falco peregrinus peregrinator). I've see a Red Naped Shaheen in action and they are impressive. The old British falconers in Indian spoke highly of the Black Shaheen but you don't hear of anyone in the states working with them.
Once again a great video! I have a question: many falconers told me that sakers are more suitable than preregrines for lure work, because they are more reliable, consistent and don't fly that high. Do you agree? Do you find that some specific falcons are more suitable than others for lure work? Thank you
Imagine a hybrid of a Black Shaheen and a Peale
It's beautiful. 2022 It's like this falcon sold in Libya for $1000000.
I have an older Peale's peregrine
Great video. Can you send a link to your sticky footed video.
In my experience Anatum’s are definitely more puppy dog like. Very tame, almost too tame. Even chamber birds can become imprint like, often bonding so much with the falconer they start to scream if not hunted constantly. Where as like you said the Peales is much bigger and can be more aggressive. Especially towards the falconer. It’s been said that if you’re a Goshawker a Peales is almost as crazy as a goshawk. Where as an Anatum is more like a red tail as far as tameness. Both are worthy falconry birds. But the Peales takes a while longer to mature and really get going. Where the Anatum has more migratory pressure so they must mature quickly and so it’s much easier to be successful hunting them right off the bat. Same with Cassini, Fijian, or Macropus. Not a lot of migratory pressure so they mature very slowly. My Peales is nearing the end of the second season and is still in play mode. But that’s my fault 😂
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I had never thought of it in terms of migratory behavior being such a major behavior influencer. But you are so right! That makes complete sense!!!
Interesting as always, do you have a contact email? I have a particular question that I’m hoping you could help me with.
I sent u a DM about a bird………
Some one took a duck with a kestrel pergrine hybrid They get muduim sized.