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- Oklahoma has the most fascinating geography and history of any state in the union. In this video I discuss how its distinctive shape came to be, from the Red River to the Missouri Compromise. I'll also explain how it became a state at all. Learn about all of Oklahoma's Borders, the founding of Oklahoma City, and the state's not-so-certain future. This video covers some of the fascinating and tragic history of the Native people forced onto reservations in Indian Territory and how thier legacy impacts the modern state, including the Choctaw, Cherokee, Osage and several other nations.
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Intro: (0:00)
Oklahoma!: (1:01)
Oklahoma, OK?: (11:13)
It'll all be OK: (17:57)
Everything is not OK: (30:12)
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From a native perspective this story is just a constant unfolding nightmare.
Yup it makes you more angry when we weren't taught this. My family who are descendants have started to become more involved with learning our history and culture.
We really got more angry when our tribe gave us documents saying the purchasing of our families allotment was a scam and holds no validity. Fortunately we went to court and got back our land well had to make a deal and we own the mineral rights. Native americans here in Oklahoma we hate our governor Stitt he is actively working on limiting Tribal power and the small sovereignty we have left... The genocide of tribal culture and peoples were very effective and is still happening! Many more of the disengaged tribal members are learning about how bad and effective the government's campaign to eliminate our culture and sovereignty.
I had ancestors in Oklahoma, my home state, long before any tribe was relocated here. The stroke of pens in DC changed a lot for residents of No Mans Land.
I can see that. I feel a little guilt in the telling of this history as I have benefited and still do off of this stolen land.
@@rooteddwellings (Bleeping) Stitt is dumber than a bag of hammers, and I don't know how any Republican could be so foolish, to put it kindly, as to vote for him instead of Republican Mick Cornett. This is truly the golden age of the stupidity. Ai, ai, ai... I laugh every time the tribes stick it to Stitt.
@@rooteddwellings There was no genocide. The reason you weren't taught your extremely biased view of history is because it is cultural Marxist nonsense not based in fact. I don't know how governor Stitt is limiting the power of reservations, considering he is a member of the Cherokee tribe himself. Maybe stop watching the news and getting informed, it is rotting your brain and turning you into a far left extremist.
As a member of the Choctaw nation and some one born and raised in Oklahoma it was so awesome to see an in depth video on the state!
Agreed we never get attetion lol
Amazing to learn of these complex details forgotten to history. A well done lesson on this obscure subject
Easily sufficient for a Masters or Doctoral Thesis on the subject
Thank you for doing the work and trying your best to not only recognize my tribe of Ketoowah but also other issues such as dropping the Creek from Muskogee (and in Oklahoma we say My-am-uh, not my-am-ee)
Thank you! I'm a Kansan but spent a great deal of time in Oklahoma. My Grandma used to say My-am-uh but some things I just didn't pick up on! My Kansan Grandparents got married in Miami so I've heard it that way many more times
I'm Mvskoke-seminole aka Muskogee Creek. My fam still uses Creek just for shortness of the word. But if we write to others about our tribe informally it's muskogee and in formal writings/articles we use Mvskoke.
When it comes to Indian I've noticed we use it between natives more like the N word for black peoples. We say stuff like "Auntie is on Indian time" and use it talking to each other but we don't like Indian when other non natives say it or write it. We are that sensitive about it but it still doesn't feel write. We use Native and encourage others to say Native it just doesn't feel right when people call us Indians! I mean since like 1990s my family has used "Native" almost always and indian in jokes and gabs. We aren't offended if accidentally said But "Natives" should definitely be said and written over Indian in all seriousness it needs to be Native... But it's mainly the mainly white folk who are the offended ones and show outrage. Also the white/Native folk who have mainly white culture who are the most outrage over headdresses and stuff. As a decadent of a sub chief my grandpa would of been given the headdress. But since my great grandma's brother was given a inherited headdress due to being a Male we don't have it. All i'm getting at is my fam who is pretty damn native don't care if people use our culture as a costume.
Now using Indian isn't causing outrage but definitely we don't like it when others are describing us.
I'm actually from Miami County, Ohio. Grew up on the Great Miami River. So hearing ol Dave England say "Miamuh" I thought it was just a hick thing lol
As a Muskogee Creek you should look into or visit Honey springs battlefield in Checotah, Oklahoma. Mvto
I’m a member of the Muscogee Nation and native Oklahoman, this video was pure gold! Thank you for sharing. I learned something today.
I’m glad you liked it, thank you!
Great video! I learned more in this 45min than I did in twelve years of school in Oklahoma.
Looking forward to more of these. I really want to know why the little state of Louisiana came out of the enormous Louisiana Purchase.
I’m not sure what state will be the next episode, but Louisiana is definitely on the list! (along with 47 other states)
The border with Arkansas was set under the Spanish governorship well before the purchase & it stuck. LA was meant to be the breadbasket for Haiti, to feed them bc the French didn’t know sugarcane could grow in LA too. Crops of wheat were meant to be grown & shipped out of New Orleans.
Also- 15 states in part or in full we’re acquired in the Louisiana Purchase. LA’s natural boundaries limited size & direction as they include the gulf coastline & the Mississippi River. Westward, Texas was still Mexico (later the Republic of Texas) so another border.
Absolutely loved the video! I learned more through this than my entire Oklahoma History course in High School
Thank you for this wonderful video. Oklahoma’s history is so byzantine that a survey like yours is the best way to grasp even the broad sweep of it. Very well done. And I love the book by Sam Anderson you cited about OKC’s founding: “Boom Town”. Thanks again for the great work.
I cannot recall this ever being taught in schools. I hope educators offer this video for high school students.
As a Kansan I can’t speak to the OK. curriculum but that would be neat !
I lived in Tulsa for 8 years and this video was spot on
Thank you for covering my home state. I love it here and could talk about my state all day lol. Good work man! 👍
Thank you, and so could I!
I hope this guy comes back to make more videos, they're really interesting
Great video. I’m from Guthrie and wished you would of included the fight over the state capital. Guthrie was the original Territorial Capital and it’s a pretty interesting story of how it was moved to OKC. Guthrie went from about 100 people to 10,000 over night as well. Haskell was in a feud with the first news paper located in Guthrie’s. The newspaper’s editor backed Haskell’s opponent for Governor. When Haskell was elected he sought revenge on Guthrie and immediately campaigned to have it moved to OKC. A state wide vote (with a lot of ballot stuffing) declared OKC the winner but before it was official, at midnight, Hackell send men on horseback to take the State Seal from Guthrie’s capital building. Guthrie likes to proclaim the Capital was “stolen” from us. Just a bit more of some Wild Wild Oklahoma history for you. Every year in April, we celebrate 89er’s, the first land run.
It really is a fascinating history! Half a semester in high school simply does not do it justice.
It seems that you stopped making this videos after only a couple. I find them very interesting and very well produced. I hope you are able and desiring to make more again soon.
You hardly mentioned it but "Old Greer County" plays a roll in that shape. Me great great grandparents homesteaded there when it was Texas. Ive been told my great great grandfather liked to say, "I've lived in 2 states and 2 territories without ever moving!"
yep i could have said more about lots of things that’s fair. funny story too
Great video. Something interesting to add on, some Choctaw argue that Oklahoma means something closer to “honored people”, because they say that humma/homma was also used as a title of honor and not just for the color red. Obviously “red people” is way more widely accepted and is even the given definition by the Choctaw website, still thought it was cool when I found that out though.
My first wife, and thus our children and grandchildren, are direct descendants of Allen Wright.
I can't wait for the entire series.
Can't wait for the next episode!
This is the best concise presentation I have seen on how Oklahoma came to be. As a lifelong Oklahoman I wish I had watched this before I studied Oklahoma History in College. It would have been a helpful supplement. I also have a minor in geography.
This is one of the best videos about Oklahoma I've ever viewed! Thank you for making this! This is coming from a person currently residing on the Cherokee Nation Reservation in northeastern Oklahoma! I'll be sharing this with several friends.
omg ive been waiting 9 months for you to upload. I love your videos
i hope it was worth the wait lol
Keep making these for each state! So informative
Ey nice to see you back at posting videos, i really liked this one!
I just watched both of your videos on states today and let me say they were amazing! This is such a good idea for a series! I hope you upload more frequently and hopefully soon. I can’t wait to watch them all
Great video! Just discovered your channel but you're doing an excellent job!! Keep up the great work!
Such an informative and good video, really appreciate it! Hope you do some more in the future, for example I wondered whats going on with Missouris south eastern shape
As a proud Okie and Cherokee. This was very well done. Good job.
As an okie I’m glad someone did a video about my state
i cant believe this only has like 600 likes. this is insanely informative and everyone should know this . i just drove through OK on i40 en route to las vegas; and watching the topography was wild. the way muskogee land has been manicured and mowed down, then you enter "indian nation" and suddenly theres just actually grass and nature. i lived in the south for years but the midwest is a different kind of racist spookiness. excellent job on this journalism and coverage and thank you for your work.
thank you for all the kind comments! I really appreciate it and it's great to hear I'm doing well
I grew up in the area around the city of Muskogee and was always fascinated with the history of the Cherokee Nation, which I am a registered member of. Loved the video and will definitely be watching more
Well, now I know why Tulsa feels so different than the cities within the “unassigned” territory
What an outstanding video. Looking forward to seeing more from you.
Oklahomas my second home, iam a Choctaw tribal member there and two of my Creek great uncles served as Colonels in all Indian regiments in the civil war
Very entertaining & informative. Great job!!
Great post. I learned a lot about my state's history
Bro, I just found your channel. Where's the other 48 parts??? These are fantastic
I'm not sure when Episode 3 of this series will come out, but I have another video coming out soon!
As a descendant of Tams Bixby I found this video astoundingly informational and well done. Ty4 your work on this.
I love your tiktoks, realising I could have a 45 minute version of you content is bliss.
Great video. So interesting. Wish it was longer
One of my ancestors is called The Forgotten Oklahoma pioneer. Charles GristMill Jones got to OKC rght after the land run. He built the first Flour Mill in OKC. He was Mister Oklahoma Territory, and was the groom in the symbolic wedding. Between the Oklahoma territory, and the Indian Territory. Miss Anna Trainer Bennett was the bride from the Indian Territory. It took place November 16th 1907, after Teddy Roosevelt signed the statehood for Oklahoma. 35,000 people gathered for the ceremony, and the picnic after statehood in Guthrie. GristMill fed the people, because the first year, or two the crops were pretty slim. He was also instrumental in moving the capital from Guthrie to Oklahoma City in 1910. Jones, Oklahoma is named after him and Luther, Oklahoma is named after his son. He was mayor of Oklahoma City twice, and in the Oklahoma legislation.
Okie till I die.
This video is so well done. Thank you!
WELL DONE! I loved the Google Earth graphics. This is fantastic content for an Oklahoma road trip.
Here from Tik Tok and I loved the video. I am from Puerto Rico, but I live in Florida and love learning US history. Great job! Maybe one day, you can make a video about PR.
Great information and video, thank you very much!!!!
Very interesting history story. Good work👍
You are true historian and this is great content. I can’t wait for the next video.
first!! love the content
Keep it up, great stuff
Excellent video. Well done 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you for making this! I am born and raised in Oklahoma, first in the Quapaw nation territory then to Tulsa and now in OKC. It is very interesting to learn the history of this state and all of the steps leading to its borders.
Fantastic stuff. I love your videos here and that other place.
Thank you for your report very well done
Fascinating story, well told! Fascinating graphics!
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it!
@@GateNerd I really did! It's a lot more thorough than other border stories I've seen. And great graphics!
I grew up in the Oklahoma Panhandle! Interesting information!
I love Oklahoma history!!! Thank you so much!
Loved here all my life and learned quite a bit about Oklahoma.
Great. Very informative. Thank you.
here from tik tok! as someone who lives in OK but isn’t from here, this was very informative and interesting. thank you!
i’m glad you liked it, thanks!
Well done all the way around. The story we are taught in school has been perfectly tailored to make it look so innocent. Thank you for taking the time to get the truth out there. I will be sharing it.
thank you! It took quite a bit of research. Much of the story isn't readily accessible so it was an interesting video to make
@@GateNerd relatable
The way it is taught in schools is the exact opposite from innocent. They make it sound like White people just went in and started slaughtering the Natives for no reason other than they could. This is far from the truth and just some cultural Marxist conspiracy theory perpetuated by the lying press that controls our media and education system.
I love these vids, and I'm learning a lot. But can you please turn up the volume?
My next video should have much improved audio. unfortunately i’ve had trouble doing that well but have been taught since this video came out
Great video!
thank you!
Love this approach to US history. I can't wait for Minnesota!
I grew up in Kingfisher County, just northwest of okc. This video was wonderful and well done. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it! thank you!
Incredible video! Are you working on another episode in the series?
The Video I'm working on now is not an episode in this series, but is actually a very in-depth analysis of the 1940 Tacoma Narrows Bridge collapse
Nice video
I realize that 1924 saw the Indian Citizenship Act, but it took another 24 years before all Native folks were "gifted" the nominal right to vote. Maybe this isn't news to anyone, but i think its worth mentioning any time the ICA is brought up. Great episode, btw.
I'm sure most people don't know about that, so it is certainly worth talking about at some point in the future. Thanks for commenting this
This the first video of yours I've seen, absolutely terrific! I hope there are lots more. Change the name if your chanel, you are definitely not a nerd, just smart and well educated, big difference, make smart cool!
I think you did a great job. As a Cherokee though, the reasons for our entry into the Civil War and why Stand Watie was pro-Confederate are much more complex than what you've presented, and had little to do with Stand Watie being a slave owner (John Ross was as well). The feud between Watie and Ross was deeply personal to Watie and gave him a lifelong hatred of Ross, which culminated in him trying to split off from the Cherokee Nation. Oh, and no he was never elected Principal Chief. He drove off the Unionist Cherokee and held an election ensuring only his own followers could vote, but his side was always in the minority.
There are several books that talk about that period in Cherokee history, but for a good overview I'd recommend Robert Conley's history of the Cherokee.
Quality content.
Waiting for you to tell about how Kansas came about, it is interesting and goes with this vid
Look at a section of Oklahoma City that was designated as a timber preserve called Council Grove. It was a small area not opened in the 1889 Land Run.
Please do one on Wisconsin next!
Here in Oklahoma, we were never taught the true scale of genocidal atrocities in school when I was growing up. Killers of the Flower Moon seems to have brought some of these horrendous sins to national attention, and I'm pleased that future generations can learn the truth and be better at loving each other.
Love from central OK
Your content is great and your production quality is excellent! I hope you add more videos to your channel. Are you an "Okie"? I am a 4th generation Oklahoman and am always interested in learning more about my complicated state.
thank you! I’m not an Okie, I’m from Kansas. However, my father and his whole side of my family is for about 3-4 generations. I’ve spent a lot of time in Oklahoma as a result
@@GateNerd That's great. Your 1/2 Okie and that's enough! Are you going to make any more videos? You have a really good production quality and if you keep working at it and developing your skills, I believe you could build a million subscriber channel.
Thanks. I love delving into the details of history and I'm looking forward to your future videos.
I do have a quibble. In the case of the Choctaw, it was not 'simply theft' when they sold their lands to the U.S. (though it could be considered purchasing with menaces). The U.S. didn't just simply tear up the previous treaty and say "that's it, get out". Representatives met with Greenwood LeFlore (the Choctaw's principal chief) and the other Choctaw chiefs and renegotiated the new treaty, as I believe the Choctaw had a right to do regardless of the conditions in the previous treaty. The Choctaw as a people were divided in opinion as to whether to resist removal or agree to move. The Choctaw chiefs decided to agree to the new treaty and as the first of the five civilized nations to sell up they got the pick of the best land in Indian Territory. And it wasn't a forced removal where the Choctaw were concerned. Anyone who wanted to stay, could - and several thousand did (as people of color in what would become Mississippi - they did not have easy lives). They were then living in the U.S. under U.S. laws. Those who moved west did so to preserve their sovereignty and freedom. I'm rather impressed with them.
The problem with always painting Indians as victims is it denies them their own strength, pride, and agency. They made choices and lived lives worthy of admiration (and some less so - see post note).
Post note: the Choctaw who stayed behind were supposed to get land grants. Most of these grants were not honored. One man who did get his land grant (along with the grants for the two unmarried children in his household) was Chief Greenwood LeFlore. He ended up owning a huge plantation growing cotton being worked by slaves. He got what he wanted out of the deal. So you can probably add 'political corruption' and 'failure to pay in full' to 'purchasing with menaces' (I said it was not 'simply theft', I didn't say it was 'nice').
I'm a Cherokee citizen born/raised in OK in HS we learn about this. But as an adult knowing that it hasn't even been 100 years since my ancestors got citizenship... how awful...
A video on the incredible shrinking Deseret/Utah territory would be good, as would Pennsylvania, ehich has some decisions which seem arbitrary, like Erie belonging to it rather than New York.
It was to give Pennsylvania access to Lake Erie for shipping.
I’ve lived in Oklahoma my whole live, taken Oklahoma history classes and still didn’t know about some of this stuff. Also fun to know the pokes are technically Boomer Sooners ☝🏼
Yeah it’s required to graduate high school in Oklahoma, you must have one semester of Oklahoma History. And you’re correct, this taught me thing I didn’t know either. Very interesting
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Came here from tictok
this is good
I am a member of the Choctaw nation I'm glad our state is being talked about often we are too boring of a state to gain any attention
I was born and raised in Arkansas near the headwaters of Point Remove Creek. I think the north end of the Cherokee removal line was in Batesville. Years after I left Arkansas I read how the western border came to be. Again it was to move the Cherokee in north Arkansas farther west. A line was surveyed from the southwest corner of Missouri to Fort Smith. Later, when they wanted the native peoples out of southern Arkansas, they defined a line from Fort Smith due south to the Red River. However, the surveyor ran the line a little to the west to gain a little land for a future state. I just checked the Encyclopedia of Arkansas which doesn't agree with that. But I think everyone agrees that the border from Fort Smith to the Red River does not run due south.
from the treaties that’s how it was defined, so far as i read
@@GateNerd Yes, I understand that, but look at a detailed map of Arkansas with lines of longitude marked to see how the border veres to the southwest. It's almost half way between 94 and 95 but the Fort Smith end is obviously closer to 94.
It's no big deal, but it's one of the interesting things about Arkansas' borders.
Also, it's possible to travel south from inside Arkansas to each of the states that border it.
Well I'm from norman and live in OKC currently and i had no idea that's why we're called sooners 😂 ty for the video it was very educational
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it’s infrequent but it does happen!
There's a story of the governor of OKC sneaking into Guthrie late one night and stealing the state seal, making OKC the state capitol the next day. I'm not sure of the validity of this story, but it's interesting nonetheless.
See my post above, I go into detail of the “stolen” story. The vote to make OKC the capital had happened but it wasn’t official when Haskell sent his men in the middle of the night to take the seal from one poor unassuming night guard. Haskell knew he had stuff enough ballot boxes to give the win to OKC. So technically it was taken early, not stolen. Buttttttttt us in Guthrie love to tell people it was. 😜
True story.
Could you please do a video about Arkansas’s boundary history
Do you think that you can do one for Minnesota?
Can you bring back the stateballs?
Quite a bit in this episode that wasn't mentioned in US History. Circa 1976, that is. Interesting, are you doing all 50?
Great video. One point though. Oklahoma wasn't the "center" of the dust bowl. The three panhandle counties were the worst affected in the state, and only four other northwest counties are typically included. The reason so many people think it was only Oklahoma is because of the Grapes of Wrath.
hey if that’s the only gripe after 45 minutes i’ll take it! I say epicenter because it had the worst effects but yes what you’ve said is more accurate
Please consider doing a state like Alaska or Vermont! The history is all incredible. Great video!
i love "i make geography content" I LOVE GEOGRAPHY
David Payne may be the father of Oklahoma but how could you tell a story about Oklahoma and not mention Oklahoma’s Favorite Son and Cherokee Native Will Rogers who said “One does not simply move into Oklahoma, Oklahoma moves into you”. Proud to be an Okie from Guthrie
i considered talking about Will Rogers (more about Woody Guthrie) but it just didn’t fit in the scope of the video.
@@GateNerd 100% Oklahomans live in the most red state politically but a open minded Okie is literally some of the best folk in the world. To the Open minded alternative people in Oklahoma Woody Guthrie is our Jesus.
David Payne just got more famous, and not just for yelling “a tornado is coming ya’ll” I’m Guthrie Native too, class of 89. Great great grandparents were in the land run.
Yo the visuals in google earth really remind me of Jon Bois from Secret Base/SB Nation. In a positive way of course
that’s exactly why i use it! it is fairly good for geography i think
Please come back
Is that EU4 music in the background or am I going crazy?
EU4, Civ 6, HOI 4, RDR2,and Railroad Tycoon III. also some audio library music
Broken Promises: The State
The United States has tons of land and the native populations in the east were fairly small by the early 1800s. There is no reason why they couldn't have remained where they were originally, as many of those areas are still thinly populated.
North America was a giant forest when the Europeans arrived. The Indian tribes lived where the soils were best for crops. They fought each other over farm land and now were fighting encroaching settlers over land. Some left to head west to avoid conflict with the settlers. Some purchased their land from the tribe, state or Feds so were allowed to stay. The rest were relocated to the Indian Territory after their chiefs sold their tribal land to the US Government. The Feds paid for their relocation costs which were footed by the tribes whose chiefs billed the Feds for reimbursement. The chiefs tried to cheat the Feds by inflating the numbers of tribal members being relocated along with the costs for goods and services (eg: ferry tolls). The Feds questioned their number of members so were told there are fewer now since so many died en route. Many were dying due to bad weather and disease that also affected the settlers and soldiers accompanying the tribes during the march. The two squabbled over the figures with the Feds paying what they felt was more reasonable a few years later. Their tribal chiefs were educated and wealthy so screwed their tribal members by profiting from the sale of their territory and from their forced relocation.
@@billwilson-es5ynboy I hope you aren’t trying to say the colonizers didn’t steal any land from the natives!!
What's even more so odd is many tribes don't "stick to" town names or anything like that. The hub of the Cherokee nation is in Tahlequah Oklahoma
At one time it was the center for all tribes
I like the countryballs more