Why Will Is So Important In Stranger Things Season 5
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0:00 Season 5: The Season of Will
1:06 Duffer Brother's "Will" Season 5 Announcement
2:42 Will's True Purpose And Why I cried
6:29 Will Becomes Vecna's New ????? :'(
7:40 Why Will Is the Perfect Target For Vecna
9:10 I'm Scared for Will In Season 5 Because of his ???????
10:09 Crying myself to sleep rn
11:19 Will vs Henry: Why They're ????????
12:22 What If ????? Kills Vecna
13:20 My worst nightmare - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
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Does he notice?
I was just watching stranger things before I saw this notifitcation
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I think Will be the one that puts a stop to it all, but he'll survive. It started with Will, it ends with Will.
Wrong it started with Eleven
@@jokemoke3727 Both?
@@jokemoke3727 I would say Will’s disappearance “catapulted” Stranger Things, but eleven opening the gate started the upside down.
@@jokemoke3727no the duffer brothers said it started with will and it will end with will
I also think Noah Scnhapp is by far the strongest dramatic actor among the 4 main boys so he especially deserves more plot and range. His speech about El to Mike in the van was the most emotional part of this season for me! The others are great for comedy and general adventure vibes, but Will has consistently shown his depth as a dramatic character and I hope the showrunners recognize his talent in the next season.
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I agree. Him and Sadie Sink playing Max; her scene reading her goodbye letter to Billy brought tears into my eyes. Such a strong actress. And Noah Schnapp is also such a strong emotional actor who needs more screen time. Hopefully on season five both actors get that.
Omg- I was sobbing during Max’s letter and Will’s speech 😭😭
AND THAN HOPPER- omg I can’t
I've said it before and I'll say it again: Will has the most potential out of any character in Stranger Things
I would absolutely love to see Will have a major role in Season 5, he's such an underrated character with a ton of potential, not only for relationships between characters but definitely to help bring down Vecna. I think Vecna will definitely try to use Will's feelings (specifically for Mike) against him, and I think Will's feelings about everything will become addressed in some way or have some sort of arc. Either way, I just want Will to be happy for once, honestly.
I have a theory that Will’s psychics connection to the mind Flayer is the reason bad stuff happens in Hawkins
@@KiKiChamp123 yeah but if we use the logic, when will wasnt at hawkins, alot of bad things happened.
But good theory
We need another season for will Byers because he's literally underrated and plus his connection to the upside down is still here and he might get possessed by mind flayer again.
maybe
Ikr
But his connection isn't more so to the Mind Flayer now but i think he has more of a connection to Vecna even before the character was introduced to the series.
The biggest plot twist would be if Will got a haircut
So true
Honestly, his current bowl cut is better then his previous versions by a lot.
@@jamesrichards2720 Yeah his recent cut grew on me and now I'm starting to realize how goofy his hair looked in season 3 lol
@@jamesrichards2720 be looking like coconut head from Ned's Declassified
@@jamesrichards2720 please he looks like Vector from Despicable Me 💀
I can't wait just to see Will more than 5 minutes per movie length episodes. I've always related the most with Will, and I think he's under used
It also just baffles me that they saw what they had on their hands with Noah Schnapp in season 2... and then never gave him anything interesting to do again. He did an amazing job with all the possession stuff, but the only chances he's gotten to show what he can do since were destroying Castle Byers in 3 and the talk in the van in 4.
@@robbiesmith8055 If he gets scenes that are intense in the way those possession scenes were, it's gonna be brutal. I'd love to see what Noah can do with scenes like that, now that he's almost 18.
@@mevrouwroos and he’ll almost be 19 during filming, (if they start filming next summer)
Will had 2 entire seasons dedicated to him
@@jin2k290 There's a difference between being the focal point of an entire season and simply having important things to do. I agree that with an ensemble this large it's only fair to share the spotlight, but you can remove a character from the main role without rendering them useless. Dustin and Steve, for example, have never been focal characters, but they've still had a major role in almost every single season, and they've never felt like superfluous additions to the story. Mike, Will and Jonathan on the other hand were major players in season 1, only to spend this whole season on a bland road trip, and their only contribution to the finale was kneeling around a salt bath. There's a difference between letting characters take on a smaller role to allow others to shine, and not giving them anything interesting to do at all.
I hope so. Given that Will (and Mike and Jonathan) had basically nothing to do in season 4 it will be nice to see them actually a part of the story again.
The Duffers say they want to go back to the core group of the 4 boys and Eleven next season, so hopefully that will give Mike more focus and remind us why he's supposed to be 'the heart'. And since they've confirmed Will will have a bigger role, hopefully that means a more meaningful arc for Jonathan by proxy, because if Will's really going through it next season Jonathan's gonna be there for him.
Nothing to do? Traveling across the country to find El. Then rescue her in the nick of time. Then get her a water pool (freezer) to help her fight and save Max. That's not basically nothing 🤦🏼♂️😅
@@ironicly__iconic Sure, they did a lot, however Screen Time wise they barely did anything. Yes, they achieved a decent bit, but I'd have liked to have seen more substance on the screen and gotten more opportunities for character growth. We could have gotten much more scenes, like a chase scene in the car, or them visiting various establishments like a gas station, restaurant, hotel, etc. Maybe they get exhausted of the car and decide to risk taking a detour for a break and try something new, considering they're in the middle of nowhere without rules.
It'd have been so cool to see the characters coming out of their shells. Mike, Will, and Jonathan, have all had issues with acting on their true feelings and sacrifice themselves for others, the potential for them to say F it and let go for awhile and self indulge would have had immense potential. Overall, Their part of Season 4 was in my opinion the biggest letdown, considering it was the part I was most excited for.
@@YourMomsAltAccountthey were also sidelined In season 3
@@YourMomsAltAccount isn't it funny that they actually did the MOST important thing by finding Eleven, preparing her the salt bath and making her find Max so she could try to save her and fight Vecna at the same time, but they were given less screen time than the Steve and Nancy's lingering looks?!?!?! I just find it extremely weird and funny at the same time, but the Cali group just stole the show for me (Will's speech to Mike and Jonathan talking to Will were my two fav scenes)
I would say more 1 and a half seasons rather than 2 seasons. Cause the scene when Will destroys "Castle Byers" is one of the most underrated and emotionally charged scenes of season 3. It broke my heart, I just want the best for that kid!.
The frustrating thing is that they dropped his arc completely that season. They wrote him a heartbreaking subplot about his friends abandoning him, he's so distraught he destroys his childhood hangout, and then... it's forgotten entirely and he just goes to help the others fight demons. He even shuts Lucas down later when he tries to apologise, because the story no longer has time for Will, so they just dump the conflict entirely.
@@robbiesmith8055 I wouldn't say it's forgotten of. They put Will's character in a stasis. I believe they purposely froze his character development so that they could play it out in the final season, and I think the upside down being frozen in 1983 is directly linked to Will in some way.
@@drakenfist I don't know if I have *that* much faith in the Duffers to have underutilised him for two seasons for a grander purpose; given he's not the only character who's been neglected the past couple seasons, I think it's more an unfortunate consequence of having a cast this big. But given he's set for a bigger role next season, this is their opportunity to right the ship. I just hope they also give more attention to other forgotten characters (here's looking at you Mike and Jonathan), and that Will's bigger role doesn't come at someone else's expense screentime-wise.
@@robbiesmith8055 The thing that interests me about the California crew is that they are all stuck. Johnathan's arc through out the last few seasons and especially in this season, amounts to resembling "the clash" song he and Will sung in season 1: "Should I stay or should I go". Mike's arc is indecision and Will is stuck on trying to figure out who he is and his place. What we do know is that season 5 is going back to it's roots and Will is going to be a big focus. I am hopeful that they will end it well.
Personally, I believe Will has powers and was born with them like Henry. Vecna said that his victims JOIN him. That they aren't gone, they're still there. Will has always been some form of a wizard in the D&D party, I think season 5 will show that. Instead of him becoming a host, I think he'll realize his actual powers. I see Will sacrificing himself...I sure hope not. But there's a possibility.
Will and vecna are probably the most powerful ones. Vecna being a dark wizard has power to destroy and will has the power to create
I was thinking the same thing tbh
Henry also wanted Eleven to join her when he was "helping" her to escape. I think him going after Will as his first move was very likely intended as some sort of "recruitment" process.
Please no . I don't want him dead , hes my favorite 😭
Does this have any implications for Lonnie, Joyce or Jonathan?
I really hope they give Will an opportunity for happiness instead of just making him miserably pining for his straight friend and then dying.
So true. Never really thought about him that way before but you’re so right. He deserves more than to just be another “Bury your Gays” trope.
yeah he fr deserves a long life filled with being loved and cared for:( love him sm and feel so bad for him… I can relate so well to him he just wants some appreciacion for being the only one to hold the group together. hes gone thru so much but is still always putting others before himself. I hope his "friends" finally stop treating him like sht… they still dont even see him for how powerful he is. I want it to be his time to shine now becoming the hero or at least getting some credits for being the real heart of the group. I cant stand the others not caring about him at all and treating him like this dumb emotional lil boy while hes the only one that actually cares. also will and jonathans relationship is just so heartwarming it breaks me I don’t think I would survive any of the two dying.
I honestly feel that Will And Lucas have a bigger role in the final season considering the duffers haven't explored either one of them in depth , now with max in a coma and will having a major connection and the duffers hinting at a journey through the mind to retrieve max's soul and Lucas protecting max's physical body while they try to retrieve her soul but that's what I want I. guess
Bro finally someone says this! Will has been undermined and he had so much potential! Also you brought up a good point about Max. If she survives, she may end up becoming blind but she could gain powers to see into the Upside similar to Will, and be able to watch Vecna’s move, while Will can senses his emotions and his presences. It would be great to see what they do with Will.
@KenyaGirly yeah I’ve kinda noticed
Ok I don't think so she definitely gonna have memory loss if you heard what Dr.Brenner said Vecna consumes his victims he takes their mind
Imagine having a blind character in season five?! Honestly, I wouldn’t mind at all. It would just make the season all more interesting and enjoyable. Plus, I feel like it could give me a character to relate with, since I’m blind myself. But then again, who knows what’s going to happen
@@vanessacardoza_music Sorry if this sounds rude but I've got a question just like for learning stuff. How are you able to type the comment if you're blind?
@@PeppaPig-cs7sr hey thanks for the question :)
I’d be glad to answer. So basically, I use a program on my iphone called voiceover which you can also turn on in settings under accessibility. That being said, I am able to use my phone by performing different gestures on the screen to get to different places. For example: double tap to select an item or open an app. This works on computers, tablets/iPads, androids, iPhones, etc.
Mike also pulled Will out of the potential horror in the movie theater in season 3. It's definitely a pattern. I don't doubt at all that it will come up again.
im so glad season 4 was so interesting, and that it gave so many opportunities for people to talk about what might happen next. i feel like the first 3 seasons kind of ended without any unanswered questions as far as monsters and the mindflayer, but season 4 deliberately leaves a lot of things unanswered and gives viewers of the show the ability to come up with theories on their own. every other seasons ending kind of just tied everything up with the season coming after it showing something new, but season 4 actually shows the new thing before the next season even starts (the upside down entering the real world)
I hope will and mike both become bigger characters this season, they both haven’t had focus or been major dudes since season 1. Mike is just attached to Eleven and nothing else, what is he outside of her? I wanna see him become the leader again, the heart as Will called him, have him show how he’s the heart by despite seeming obsessed with Eleven to the point where he ignored his other friends in season 2, he has evolved and knows all about them despite that. Have him support Lucas with Max and Dustin with Eddie, despite him not being there when those things happened. Show him as the true emotional support he can be like he was with Eleven in season 4. And with Will, give him fucking superpowers, I swear to god it makes too much sense not to give him powers to control parts of the upside down with his connection to the mind flayer and vecna. I wouldn’t mind if they just said he had powers like Eleven and Vecna, because that would be sick, and he just never awakened them due to being too scared / the connection never being strong enough or something like that. And have him, with Vecna seemingly weakened at the end of season 4, awaken his powers and fight alongside Eleven. Think about it, it fits so well story wise. Eleven had someone who she saw as an older brother, who cared and taught her, who supported her but ultimately betrayed and hurt her. While Will is the actual brother she never had in 001, and having him also have those powers connects them more and shows that these kids with powers still exist, and that maybe it was never coincidence that Will went missing, that Vecna always had a plan for him, or always saw something in him. I would love both of these to happen as I feel like it would bring the series full circle with Mike and Will showing their growth, but still being the same people we have followed across the series.
Also may I mention, Vecna is of course a Lich, an undead wizard, how fitting would be to have the only other member of the party mentioned as a wizard, Will, being the one to overcome and stand the high ground as mentioned in this video.
it would seem kinda forced if Will had powers like Eleven's it would just seem like "oh here you go Will has powers even tho it's completely unnecessary " but I kinda like the idea of Will just had some kinda spy like connection that he goes along with Vecna's game and Vecna gives him some type of power but he uses them against Vecna at the end and him and El save the world or sum but yk since it's the Duffer Brothers that probably won't happen
@@marangelynrodriguez3094 I don't think thats what I want to see, but it would be cool if it would happen. I want will to have some kinda power, with the connection to vecna, I think it could be cool if that power came from that.
To be honest, Mike and Eleven weren't even really together in season 2 except the last episode and even then they were mostly separated again because Hopper took Eleven to close the gate while Mike stayed with Steve and the others to first deal with Billy then go to the tunnels. Season 2 definitely had Mike be by Wills side the whole time.
“Do you know who does? The grinch- I mean Vecna...” WHY IS THAT SO ACCURATE?? He literally gives off so much of the grinch vibes in his appearance In the last two episodes.
I think it might be that Vecna’s hips are pushed forward a bit like the grinch
lmao
Something about his midsection throws me off. Also I'm weirdly relieved they decided to make him a man turned monster. Because I wasn't so sure why the Upside Down had a creature that looked so manlike
I really really hope the Duffers give Will a bit of a break. He's so tragic and I want to see him become the badass hero for once. He deserves it after all the crap he's been through. I'm rooting on Will.
im really happy that will is gonna have a big role again, he’s always been my favorite character and i hated how in season 3 and 4 he was just in the background
I'm with you there. When the Duffers said he'd have a big focus next season it made my whole year hsjjkshfk
I flipped out lol I was so excited when I heard he was going to have a major role!!
I think that Eleven and the rest will try to get Will to focus his ability and use it to their advantage.
And they'll think it's giving them the upper hand, but the more he does it the more Vecna starts to notice, and starts targeting Will or exploiting their connection for his own gain.
Max isn't dead just blind broken bones and a coma . I think max may become the new Host .
I was thinking this too. Maybe that’s why Vecna chooses his targets, they have an underlying ability that they’re not aware of. I know Eleven got her powers due to MKUltra but what if some are just born with powers. Maybe Henry was and found a way to tap into them. Plus Henry’s powers were suppressed by a chip in his neck and Will touches his neck when Vecna is close. Maybe his unknown powers are suppressed too
They need to give Will and Mike the spotlight back as they deserve. They got backseated hard for the last 3 seasons.
it was literally only season 4 they got backseated
@@norbs3802 bro did you watch the previous 2 seasons? They were pretty much just there. Will did some stuff in season 2 but Mike literally is just there.
@@DontEvenLiftBro whaaattt will was the star of s2 and mike still served a purpose… but yeah they were benched in s3 and 4
Lol is everything in life always about you? Lol it's part of the story. With many characters they can't all be taking center stage. 🤦🏼♂️
@@ironicly__iconic please stop typing stupid comments
Will deserves a huge role in season 5, and I think that it would just be very full circle. It started with Will and ends with Will.
This guy has been tossed around for 2 seasons and ignored, I love that they have said that will will play a major role. He was the main character and he was third wheeling the whole time.
But I don't want him to be a villain. Thats kinda lame.
I want him to be badass hero with scenes that will trigger tiktoks like nancy's guns scenes, all while kissing boys.
i agree with everything u said sm
you just put all my thoughts that i didnt know how to explain into words. thank you
ABSOLUTELY!!
It still is the 1980’s I doubt he’s gonna go round kissing guys 😂
I definitely think that Vecna took Will because he was an outcast and he was a lot like him. I don't think that he wanted to kill him though. Cause if he did he would have done it when Will was in the upside down. I think that Vecna wanted Will to be another right hand man and maybe spy on eleven or something until he had enough power to do that himself.
I think Will's unrealistic week-long survival in season 1 was originally just plot armour, but it leaves a lot of room now for them to dive back in and really explore Vecna's intentions with Will right from the beginning.
@@robbiesmith8055 no they clearly showed will singing should I stay or should I go now.... Which maybe why vecna never killed him because he was singing his favourite song which is one of vecna's weaknesses
@@_Hello.There_ He's literally singing that song when the Demogorgon grabs him in the second last episode, so while I think the theory that he survived by singing is cute, I don't buy it.
@@robbiesmith8055 prolly bcos the demogorgans was not after him until that moment... Throughout season one we see that the demogorgon was either in the real world or at Joyce's house and when he was in the woods when Nancy saw him but that wasn't close to the cabin... Vecna was the one after him all that time but eventually the demo could have found him
@@_Hello.There_ Then why wasn’t Will one of the four victims? Why let him live for like more than a year or two. Plus if that was the case why didn’t Vecna actively go after Will himself during like season 2-4? Like why kidnap him and then let him go free? Like he went after Max later because she was actively important to his plan but how can we apply the same to Will?
I believe Will is the reason the upside down is a reflection of Hawkins in 1983. He was not bleeding when he was taken. He wasn’t killed while in the upside down. His body was being used as a host and kept alive in stasis. Why?
Vecna can move things, and create illusions like El and Eight respectfully. But he can’t create. What if under another telepath’s influence, Will’s Power activates. To make illusions tangible and real.
When pulled into the upside down, his intense emotion of fear, made Vecna’s projection of Hawkins in his mind real.
You put it perfectly. I think Vecna's power is to decay, to kill and consume, and Will's power could be to create. They are opposite sides of the same coin as reflected by all of the parallels shown this season.
I also think his power is more of a spiritual one than what we've seen with everyone else, and it needs the right conditions to be able to show itself. Eleven was able to save Max's physical body from dying, maybe Will will be able to return her soul and wake her from the coma.
I also believe that this is somewhat true. It was mentioned multiple times that Henry consumes. So who else was taken in the upside in season 1? Barbara was also taken but what about her memories. Was she simply killed off or did something else happen before that?
No it’s bc of El
This is a great point. Will has to be the key.
Yes I have a similar guess that Will is gonna sacrifice himself which will destroy the upside down Hawkins close the possibility of vecnas season 5 plan
I think there will be a scene where vecna brings will to his mind lair and shows him the memories of his friends unintentionally emotionally scaring him for example: mike saying, It’s not my fault you don’t like girls!
Oof I forgot about that line :(
@@whims6278 Yah I was just rewatching the past seasons before I got to season 4 and I'm just sitting there like "Ope" when he said that lol
Nah, Will's definitely not going to die. The Duffers have said that this is his coming of age arc, a kind of arc that just doesn't end with death. Anyway I think it would be overly cruel and rather unlike Stranger Things for a character that had had so much tragedy in his life to just die after all that.
But you seem to have completely missed the love triangle they set up this past season with Will, Mike, and El. That is going to be resolved next season :)
Oh yeah! I really hope that the love TRIANGLE will be dealt with like a love TRIANGLE should be. ( I hate when media calls "love triangle" what is in reality a "love angle/corner". Does that make sense ?)
Another factor to consider is Noah's incredible acting, I mean he has demonstrated in season 2 and the van scene what he can do. I just hope they appreciate him🥺
Maybe he's not trying to possess Will, but he wants Will to join him like he did Eleven. Maybe he saw himself in Will, but Will is too kind and he refused to join him so Vecna just left him thinking he would either change his mind or die.
I don’t think so tbh. I mean, Will has no powers. It’s never been hinted at, or mentioned in any interviews of any kind. It would just be incredibly out of nowhere. After Henry’s monologue to Eleven, we see what he thinks of the world. He hates the structure of it, the people who live blissfully in it. The whole reason he wanted El was because he did see himself in her. Her potential to surpass the other ‘copies’ of him Brenner made. Will just doesn’t fit the bill to be apart of Henry’s plans more than being a host.
I think Will was put in the background for a reason in S3 and 4, so he can kick in the door in S5 and shock everyone!
Yess
@@ranaal7182 It seems to be an obvious choice. He was the main character for S1 and S2. He was not moved to the background step-by-step, but from one episode to the other. That's why I think.
I'm also wondering if his feelings for Mike will affect the storyline in any ways.
It was not so obvious in S1 and S2, but there were signs, but from S3 onwards it was clear that he feels something more than friendship.
i think season 5 could be the best season yet if they do it right
You get me. He's my favorite character and I can't wait for him to be relevant to the plot again!
I really really don’t want will to die in season 5. I physically will hurt if Joyce hopper will Jonathan and eleven don’t get to be a nice family
Lol sorry but you probably need to emotionally prepare yourself for season 5. I feel reasonably comfortable that Joyce, Hopper and Jonathan will be fine, but there's almost no way both Will and Eleven survive the finale. One of them's almost certain to go.
There’s no way him or eleven are surviving next season. The way it’s looking, I highly doubt that
@@JonclaireMusa I don't think they're both dying, but it's gonna be one of them. My money's on Will, because I think killing El hurts the arcs of more characters than just her.
We met Hopper when he was grieving his daughter, so to end his arc with him grieving another dead child feels like an unlikely mood. And Mike's arc for 3 seasons now has entirely revolved around overcoming obstacles in his relationship with El, so I struggle to see an ending for him without her in it.
Jonathan's main arc on the other hand has always concerned Nancy, and Will has nothing to do with his love triangle. And Joyce's main relationship for the last 2 seasons has been the one she has with Hopper rather than with either of her kids, so Will's death doesn't completely cancel out a happy ending her for; at least she'd still have Jonathan and Hopper.
I LITERALLY STARTED CRYING AT ALL YOUR SCENARIOS. Wills arc is so sad 😭 he’s such a good character
If will was in Hawkins he’d know the next victim and the four kills and the plan if he knows what Vecna knows and his memory’s to see he was henry
the silver cat (vecna) feeds when blue (mike) and yellow (will) meet in the west (cali). vecna prob started his plan upon Mike's departure from Hawkins
@@fayes.3538 omg that’s genius
i think Dustin could be a viable host/possesion by vecna like how he did max due to guilt over not being able to save Eddie
I think he might but probably overcome his guilt
I think Eddie is alive. There's a two day gap and nobody except for Dustin seems bothered by Eddie's death. I think he is hiding and will return
@@lillyvanpug That is true… but I think the way they originally wrote the script, and with Joe Quinn even saying “I love you, man” to Gaten, though improvised, it was the original plan to kill Eddie off. So Dustin giving Eddies charm to his father I think gave Dustin that closure to get that off his chest and tell Eddies father about what happened, and labelled him a hero
@@lillyvanpug i think he could be too bc brenner “died” in season 1 by the demogorgon and came back so anything can happen really
@@Cruzr1872 Eddie's uncle
I just saw that Will’s ”neck tingle” didn’t actually show up in Season 3. He had it in Season 2 you can see it when he goes outside his house and the mind flayer is there. He just started to touch his neck in Season 3 bc if he didn’t No one would notice. Exactly how No one noticed that he had the tingle in Season 2
I think people largely attribute it to season 3 because that's when it became relevant. Will knows he's sensing the Mind Flayer (now Vecna) because he's felt it before (in S2), but he only starts using it as an alarm bell in the 3rd season.
Yes, I always thought Will was a great character and it definitely is time to go back to him!
if season 5 is gonna be the final season i think mike dustin lucas and will should be most important
The Duffers have said Will will have a big focus, and they also want to go back to the season 1 core group of the 4 boys plus Eleven. If El and Will are both going to be in that group, there's a decent chance it'll be the 'main' group of next season, like the Hawkins gang were in S04.
What woman hurt you? 🧐
@@whims6278 I dont think they are saying it has anything to do with if they have meat swinging or not 😆
what if Will and Max are fully connected to the hive mind and maybe they have to kill them both to win. But then again have they won if there's that much loss. Also, I feel like they will parrarel Els goodbye in s1 in S5 with a simple goodbye, mike
If they saved the world, it's a victory. No?
@@ButtSauce666 not for them
There's no way they're going to kill Max next season after her fakeout death in S04. Loads of people are already annoyed that they brought her back at all, so if it turned out that she's just going to die eventually anyway, what was the point in diminishing the impact of her first 'death'? If they didn't want Max to survive the series, she would have died for good in S04.
Shut up, i will throw my whole tv away if they kill max AND will …in one season ? Reallly?!?
@@marcusisgreat91 Max isn't going to die, if they wanted to kill her off they wouldn't have brought her back in the finale. Will's fate on the other hand is anyone's guess.
FINALLY!!!! I finally found someone/ a whole community that want Will to have a bigger role!
Not me. I hope he dies in the first episode 😅
I NEED TO SEE AN EVIL POSSESED WILL VS ELEVEN FIGHT that would just be AWESOMEEE
Yeah i think that wills connection is going to play a big role in finding and spying on vecna. I reckon its kind of going to be the opposite of season 2 where the mindflayer spyed through will
He also said in season 2 the more he spreads the more will feels connected to him. And in season 4 volume 2 we saw vecna almost taking over hawkins. So it means will is even more connected to him now. Shit😭
I’m so happy and excited that will gets a chance to shine in the spotlight😊 tbh he actually kinda deserves to be the center of attention😆🤍
There is a reason why Will survived the Upside Down in season 1 when no one else did. I think some reason more than just Vecna needs a host.
I would love to see a moment we’re Dustin is in one of Vecnas visions and Dustin sees Eddie but it’s not the real Eddie and Dustin yells at Eddie to reply
I’d like to NOT see this. Too sad
This would make me so sad. 😞
We don't want to see that too sad 🥺
Henry resembles Will a lot to me, both physically and in character. Will is what Henry would have been if he wasn't so isolated in his own mind
I've had a feeling for a while now that will is the shows actual polar opposite to Henry. They angle things to make it seem like El is Henry's opposite but if you think about it, she was someone in the program to create psychic soldiers. She wasn't really set up to be his nemesis, he focuses on her because she banished him and he wants revenge..
At any rate Will has always been kind, caring and put others first, he's been deliberately pushed into the background to move the spotlight well away from him.
My thoughts on how the opposition of the two manifests is that Will can pull and draw on the power of those around him. He can basically enhance his own abilities just by being close to those he has bonded with. Vecna on the other hand absorbs the power of those he kills, this gives him the distinct disadvantage of always fighting alone. Will drawing on others abilities without having to consume them gives him the distinct advantage of running with a party. He's basically always been the party leader too. It was always Will trying to hold the group together, he's the core of the party similarly to how Mike is the heart of the party and El is the soul of the party..
its funny how much young Will and Joyce actually look like real Mom and son
I gotta say THANK you SO MUCH because me and my friend are big fans of Will, we adore him, and personally, Season 3 almost killed ALL my interest in the show because of how they just. Tossed Will to the side. We've been theorizing pretty much the same stuff you have (with a bonus if I may pick your mind, of thinking about how Max would also be the perfect possession target as right now she is nothing but an empty shell in a hospital bed) and it feels so VALIDATING to have someone else who has been paying as much attention as we have. Im terrified that they'll kill him, because it would in all honesty be entirely in character. But I just... More than anyone, HE deserves a happy ending, a REAL happy ending. I know the Duffers cant satisfy everyone and thats how its gonna be no matter what, but I desperately just.... I want something happy for him.
I feel like the writer shadowed out Will for the past 2 season on purpose. Maybe he's been hiding something, (his feelings for Mike and maybe something else) and doesn't know how communicate it to the others, or cant because he is in the grasp on Vecna.. if that is the case that is brilliant writing wise. Can't wait for season 5!
The parallels between Vecna and Will are eerie. And I genuinely believe he was born with powers, just like Henry, possibly the reason why the Demogorgon took him and was unable to kill him…unlike Barb. I also want him to be the one who kills Vecna
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The parallels are something to be explored for sure, but Will having powers? It would just be so cheap, and I cannot see the Duffers doing it. I mean it’s never been hinted at, no indication of it happening via interviews, in the show, or by the actors.
What if Vecna needs a host so he tries to use Will, but will goes against him and Vecna kills him. This would be heartbreaking
I feel like the Duffer brothers are either going to write something great or have one giants ass pull with Will's character. Make it how he was the key to everything this whole time or something along those lines. Like Eleven won't be able to power the main villain of season 5 away like she's been doing, so out of nowhere Will now is the end all be all.
I also hope they don't trying and give him (or Max for that matter) superpowers. Will already has a unique ability to bring to the table, so show us how he can use what he already has to his advantage, rather than giving him a power up. Same with Max. When she comes back, I don't mind her having some unique ability as a result of what happened to her, but don't make her some superpowered goddess on the same level as Eleven.
The least interesting thing about El is her powers, and seeing her just scream her way to victory almost every season has gotten very old. So I'm desperately hoping they don't give Max or Will crazy powers like so many people are predicting, and just let them use their existing abilities to come up with unique solutions that don't involve just screaming at the problem until it goes away.
@@robbiesmith8055 before your comment, I did wanted for my boy Will to get powers, but now.. not so much. The whole power thing has gotten pretty old, it kind of seems like El's only purpose in this show is to fight the Big Bad so we don't get to see her character apart from that. And if they give Will powers, the same fate might happen to him. And he is a complex character, there is so much storyline that could be explored about him without bringing up new things.
p.s. I don't know why, but your saying ''just screaming at the problem until it goes away'' got me dead :D
Hear me out, what if will is a kid with super powers who doesn’t yet know it, and vecna possessed him because he could use his powers to fight
I get so into it and so excited to bang through a full ST season the weekend it’s released. Then talking about it & rewatching it for a while. Then I get sad when I realize HOW.FREAKING.LONG it’s been between seasons!! What a great show. Hopper is the best. And I’ve been in love with Winona since I was a kid.
Sidelining will was clearly intentional to me since i think hes gonna play an enormous role in the final season. I also believe Kali is also gonna play a huge role. Im feeling a Will gains power vibe with the end being Kali, Elevelen & Will vs Henry
My theory is that Mike will die because he is the heart and Eleven’s strength/weakness. Will is still connected to the upside down (Vecna) which means that Vecna knows that Mike is Eleven’s weakness. So Vecna will try and kill Mike but maybe Will sacrifices himself and closes the gate forever.
I can see Vecna controlling Will when the group thinks they have the upper hand and using him to kill those closest to him. But seeing as we haven’t seen anything done with time travel that they have been hinting I can see 11 turning back time to undo the deaths with the exception of one.
THE TIME TRAVEL THEORY SUCK 😭
@@cyberyoutabe5995 Good bad or otherwise. We don’t know until we know.
@@chasekemp4982 It’ll ruin the show 😂😂
@@cyberyoutabe5995 Possibly but that was a very simplified look at it. I’m hoping everything will end on a good note but seeing as know body from the main cast has died someone will most likely bite the bullet. Me personally I hope not.
Expanding on what you said about Vecna using Will when the group thinks they have the upper hand, I think it would be interesting if it comes as a consequence of them using Will's true sight to their advantage. The better Will gets and the more they use him, the more Vecna takes notice. As far as we know, it's probably a two-way connection, so he might wait until the worst possible moment to turn the tables and exploit that connection for his own gains.
3:57 Does anyone realize the Duffer brothers are saying “always run” or “take flight in case of fight or flight.” They did that with Will in season 2 and Eddie in season 4.
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I really hope so. Will is so important, I don't know why everyone forget about him.
I think will will be the key to defeating the mindflayer. Remember the campaigns in season 1? I was foreshading that will was caught by the demogorgon, but what happened when he defeated the mindflayer? maybe we'll see it on S5.
maybe will have a huge role to help eleven to defeat vecna. Or, in instead for being possessed, he somehow manages to possess or spy on mindflayer to use against vecna.
And I really hope he develops some kind of power, because he should. He's so similar to harry, it can't be a coincidence!
I also wonder what Bob told him, that he face his nightmares. He couldn't do it in S2, but what if he does it in the last season? it would be quite emotional.
It started with will and ended with will.
I just hope he doesn't die, he deserves to have a happy ending at least for once
i honestly can’t think how season 5 will play out
Your channel is the only one that makes sense and stranger things can be so confusing so your channel really helps me understand the show better.
I have some theories about stranger things that might be different to what everyone is thinking.
1. Will is going to confess to Mike about why he is acting like he hates girls and has been that shy. It isn't because he's gay, he could still be a child deep down and he has turned into an introvert. He was wanting to play D&D one last time before he grows up.
2. He could be the one that could save everyone if Will can mimic vecna's powers and use them against Vecna. He might be passing the powers to max as well to be on el's level to end Vecna as a trio they are.
3. Mike and Jonathan might be the ones to aid the trio in the 5th season in case if the battle is still going on, the possibilities are endless.
4. El could sacrifice herself to save Hawkins for everyone.
5. It could be the possibility that ST Season 5 might not be the last one but Season 6 might be the final one at that time.
They'd BETTER not have him confess his love for Mike in his dying moments after sacrificing himself. I'd never forgive them.
I feel like Will might get powers to fight Vecna with Eleven in season 5
I really love these kind of videos bc I can sometimes learn some stuff that I didn't know while watching the show
Love your videos! Keep up the good work 😊
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I think it makes sense for Will to become possessed with Vecna’s host. I think Vecna will use Will’s feelings against him to be able to take him over. I He actually feels like he is a mistake and is in love with his best friend who is dating his step sister. It would be super easy for him to be manipulated I think Mike will be the one to bring him back.
The only reason I don’t reeeeally think Will is gonna die is because of Joyce, but I can 100% see him sacrificing himself
Of all the kids on this show, he is one of the better actors.
I wonder if they are gonna try to expand Will’s power maybe into a controlled “episode” from season 2 to peer into the upside down and find Vecna in season 5
I can see them going this route. I don't like the theories being tossed around that he'll get full on superpowers, because seeing Eleven primal scream her way to victory over and over again got old fast, and I don't really want them doing that to any other characters. But I can see Eleven using what she knows to help Will gain control over the connection with Vecna/his true sight so they can Spy on Vecna properly.
I don't think we have ever seen Dustin cry s lot since season 1 and season 2 ending
I love your little character with his hands in the hair like "look at this" idk he's cute
For a long time I also thought Will (and Noah Schnapp as an actor) were underutilised by the show ...
... but at some point I realised that this is just showing his personality (and even more importantly his suppressing of his personality) in a very direct way. He ISN'T the prominent character that always wants to be in the action. He is an introvert who on top of that suppresses his personality which kind of requires his character to be not front and center to really work.
I do however hope SO MUCH that he will be the real focus for the first time in Season 5 as he finally stops suppressing his personality and (at least in that is what I think) the powers he got the moment Vecna took over his mind.
Him not being front and center the seasons prior will make that moment, when he finally embraces his true self that much more impactful (at least I feel that way)
Because I think personally that ever since season 2 where Vecna infiltrated his mind he had powers BUT he couldn't use them because he was suppressing his personality which also suppressed all of his powers (except the one of feeling the connection to Vecna and everything he is connected to). It's very similar to Eleven suppressing her powers after what she did at the lab (this is the period between the Flashback of Season 4 and her introduction in Season 1 where she seemed to have forgotten all her powers).
In other words once he finally becomes himself he will have the same powers Henry had during season 2, when he entered Wills mind.
ogs know the real title was called the rise of will the wise😏
If you realized wipl got a nose bleed like el while useing her powers he bleeded from his nose in the last couple minutes from the very last episode while looking at the portals
I think el will help him to use his powers
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I really really really really want Lucas, Dustin, Mike, El, Will. (and maybe Steve, Robin and Nancy) all together for the last season cus I just think that would be perfectly
*perfect*
Lol you're in luck. The Duffers have explicitly said they want to go back to the four boys and Eleven as an ensemble to bring things full circle next season. Though you might be out of luck with Steve, Robin and Nancy being together; they've been saying how they want to bring back a lot of season 1 groups, so it's unclear if Jonathan and Nancy will be part of a larger group or if they'll be their own unit.
And Max. BECAUSE MAX IS NOT DEAD. Verified by the Duffer Bros and cast.
I foresee a day full of girls
-Gay Wizard
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That beat in the background is 🔥 with those theories.
"Will is the only one with powers"
011: what now!!!!
I have a theory:
I believe that the reason bad stuff about the Upside Down happen in Hawkins throughout most of the show is because of Will’s psychic connection to the Mind Flayer/Vecna. I believe this is the reason why gates still open to Hawkins. I have a feeling that if they want the upside down destroyed or sealed off forever, they’re gonna need to break this connection somehow.
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Yep 👍
my theory is jason didnt die when the gate split him open. jason was sent to the upside down. i think he will return as one of vecnas victims, but eventually he will turn on vecna after realizing what vecna did to chrissy.
I think either Max or Will are probably gonna die, because they're the only ones that could be "possessed" by Vecna, and this could well be where he's actually "hiding"
I like how u said I'm Micheal with Mike and el making the Mich (Mike) eal (El) part 1:56
Noah schnapp actually said that his character will is for real gay
Yeah I think most of the fans already know by now. it was obvious.
@@Sassywizard I didn’t know Dumbledore was a fan of Stranger Things lol!
great video!!
Well now I can’t help but see Will and Vecna like Harry and Voldemort
THEORY THEORY. Vecna might use MAX to get to Eleven since he knows that Eleven and Max are together a lot.
I think his connection to vecna will grow to a breaking point then he decideds that vecna has hurt him too much in his life already that it's always been vecna then just like Henry he learns to contorol the upsidedown and just make the monsters explode since they are from the upsidedown that's my will theroy
I really like how at 12:27 he said "he deserves it" as a clip of jason dying pops up
If Vecna really wanted to break Will, the way to do it would be through Mike. Either arranging for Mike to be killed in a way that Will blames himself for, or by manipulating Mike into completely rejecting Will.
Scared for Steve. HE CANNOT DIE!
Will Will be important? We'll have to find out!
yeah thats the point of the video
@@aidengary5748 yeah that's a pun of the video
@@tomorobo4472 nah man what are you talking about
@@aidengary5748 do you not get it! I said 'Will Will' as in the name and the modal verb. I also use the contraction we'll that sounds like Will. DO YOU GET THE PUN?!?!! Or do you not listen in English class.
You're really making feel like a teacher.
@@tomorobo4472 yeah i get the pun it's just fucking stupid
Fantastic breakdown 🎉🎉🎊🥳
I so agree with this. I'm really hoping to see one of these come true