Explaining Pokemon's "Biggest Mistake" ⚔️

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    There are a lot of Inanimate object pokemon, and they always tend to be a tad controversial. In this video I hope to explain why The Sword Pokemon exist! What is Honedge based on? What is Doublade based on? What is Aegislash Based on? and so-on!
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    Chapters:
    00:00 Object Pokemon
    05:35 The Original Posessed Sword
    09:40 What Sword is Honedge?
    19:32 What Sword is Aegislash?
    Gnoggin, hosted by its creator Lockstin, is a show delving into the mysteries of Pokemon! (and other games sometimes too). Explaining everything there is to explain! Why is each Pokemon given the type it has? What are their origins? What is the lore of the Pokemon world and the design inspirations? And what does it all have to do with alchemy? Let's Go find out!
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  • @Gnoggin
    @Gnoggin  6 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

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    • @AdneelFact
      @AdneelFact 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Stab. Spears > Swords. I will always advocate the true warrior's weapons! Sticks!

    • @Cliffordlonghead
      @Cliffordlonghead 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      9k

    • @Cliffordlonghead
      @Cliffordlonghead 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      O
      K

    • @Cliffordlonghead
      @Cliffordlonghead 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AdneelFactCheater

    • @brianmoyachiuz905
      @brianmoyachiuz905 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      A stab is more deadly than a slash

  • @thedragonwarrior5861
    @thedragonwarrior5861 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +764

    Honesty, I never really understood the object mon hate myself. They're really not so bad. Especially since Chandelure is pretty universallly loved from what I see

    • @aleksabanjevic8316
      @aleksabanjevic8316 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

      Honest opinion, I think trubish and garboder are waaay too overheated, the only thing I dislike on garboder is just that his arms are on different levels, other than that, I genuinely looks good, and I think is a way better grimer/muk replacement in the sence that garboder and trubish actually look significantly different and not just like the first stage got fatter. Vanilite is OK, but I think they could have shown better that it's an icicle covered in snow, maybe not have the face on the snow that is covering its body, and a bit of a different face, silly pokemon are fine, but it needs a contrast in personality, looks, concept or something, Vanilite is silly all around, there is no contrast in it that can offset the silly in my opinion, if it had a more mischievous face or it kidnaped children like driftloon, I think it would have been less hated

    • @User-gg5ks
      @User-gg5ks 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Chandelure is my fav mon, and magnemite is the cutest thing ever. Also, dont get what ppl even dislike about object mons, maybe just most of them arent good designs or sth

    • @ArtsyStarleta
      @ArtsyStarleta 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      I mean, online I've seen almost nothing but love for it, but I have actually seen gen wunners heckle chandelure cosplayers and several other newer 'mon cosplayers (Literally In Real Life) before. So. Sleep well tonight knowing people like that exist.

    • @opalescent4694
      @opalescent4694 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Might be a cultural thing too, since in Japan there are yokai that are living objects, and when other folks don't know that, they deride them for being 'boring'.

    • @ThisAintGood.
      @ThisAintGood. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      I’d rather have an object mon over “Literal just an animal”

  • @hecatia666
    @hecatia666 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +207

    It was funny being online and see the changes of opinion happening about Aegislash
    People HATED it because it's an object possessed, after some time people LOVED it because:
    1. Sword
    2. Ghost
    3. Competitive Monster
    4. Edgy
    5. Potentially cool nicknames
    6. Shiny colors
    Humans are such mysterious and confusing creatures

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      The same thing happened with Gen 5 Mon in general, too

    • @billybarbosa5342
      @billybarbosa5342 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You’re a human

  • @redtreekoflames1327
    @redtreekoflames1327 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1222

    Pokemon's biggest mistake is not giving flygon a mega

    • @3393matthew
      @3393matthew 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      I could've sworn one of the artists in charge of designing the megas straight up said in an interview he wanted to make one but couldn't think of a good design

    • @philipgelderblom6878
      @philipgelderblom6878 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      If megas ever co- ❌
      Damn

    • @Sausages_andcasseroles
      @Sausages_andcasseroles 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      True

    • @itsturniptime3699
      @itsturniptime3699 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      I think otherwise. Personally I think Megas undermine the core concept of Pokémon evolution, where each stage is a separate character and not simply an animal growing older. Jigglypuff has notable design differences from Wigglytuff, and while you can understand they’re connected, Wigglytuff isn’t literally just Jigglypuff but more mature looking, it has the bunny ears and feet and that adds a new layer. Same reason why a lot of mid stage starters have random additions that then disappear, Charmeleon’s red skin, Croconaw’s caveman aesthetic, Raboot’s pocket.
      Megas a lot of the time just kinda added stuff on to a Pokémon. No real change, cause obviously it’s a form change not a proper evolution. The downside of this though is when you try to make a Mega for a Pokémon in a complete line with a finished concept and are unable to expand on it. Sure you could make “cooler Flygon” but you might also not do the design enough Justice or cater enough to fan demand. That’s what happened with Charizard and Mewtwo, then 1-3 months later they revealed “Heyyy, here’s the Mega X forms that just so happen to be everything the fans have been demanding in their outrage.”
      My point is Flygon is a wonderful Pokémon with a completed concept, just like Tyranitar, Metagross, and Garchomp. Adding a mega isn’t adding a new layer to the cake, it’s just injecting more cake into the layer that already exists. I’ve heard some argue “well they could make it a Bug type!” but I feel like for a Mega Flygon that would just be a direct downgrade as it loses STAB on ground moves, can’t learn many amazing bug moves, and trades it’s okay weakness spread for a whole bunch of new ones.

    • @Elemenace
      @Elemenace 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      The sorry state if Scarlet/Violet💯💯💯

  • @Wolfbane382
    @Wolfbane382 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +658

    I honestly don't get it. I actually like the ones that are objects. After all, there's nothing wrong with a variety of all kinds. Even if it's just objects. Also, the idea of cursed objects isn't as crazy as you think. I know a lot of different ones that I could see becoming new Pokemon at some point.

    • @zwiebeldogs
      @zwiebeldogs 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      The animated object ghost Pokemon are some if my favorites

    • @Juju2927
      @Juju2927 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I guess the issue is more about the "twists" or the type of object they start from that cause issue for some people. Like yeah, Aegislash and its line are fine. But then you got the Vanilluxe line and Klefki who are a bit "off" (in my personal opinion again).

    • @itsturniptime3699
      @itsturniptime3699 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      @@Juju2927
      ”How do we make an icecream Pokémon”
      “Well, what if it was an icicle that puts snow on its head in the shape of icecream, but when the snow melts it drips to the bottom of the cone and refreezes like icicles normally do and thus, gives itself eternal life!”
      “How do we exemplify the trickster nature of fairies?”
      “Let’s make a fairy that steals a valuable item, like important keys, and make it a little fairy shaped like a key ring so it can carry a lot of keys!”
      I’m paraphrasing but I find these significantly more interesting than “It’s a haunted sword seeking vengeance and bloodshed”

    • @orbracha25
      @orbracha25 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Yeah animated objects are such a ubiquitous concept in fantasy, I don't get why people don't like them. I literally used a bunch of magically animated swords in my DnD campaign today

    • @yusheitslv100
      @yusheitslv100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Pokémon are also just yōkai in a way, so object mons make sense from that angle.

  • @MrAuthor3DS
    @MrAuthor3DS 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    The Vanillite line aren't even real ice cream. They're just icicles covered in snow. Though I imagine the ice cream shapes and the simple cutesy faces are meant to invoke the image of old-fashioned restaurant mascots - y'know, classic kitschy Americano.
    And hey, maybe Ghost is one of my favorite types because they can reasonably be just about anything - dolls, yokai, balloons, coffins, candles, jack-o-lanterns, piles of sand, costumers, tea sets, stealth bombers, Izanami dragon, etc.

  • @caroalcala3741
    @caroalcala3741 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +373

    If Aegislash has a future Paradox form, imagine that thing having a laser blade and firing beams from it.

    • @AceAureus
      @AceAureus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      Master sword

    • @jellyjackcheese
      @jellyjackcheese 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      lightsaber

    • @cjlite0210
      @cjlite0210 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Maybe in a potential Legends Galar game it could have a regional form more heavily based on Excalibur

    • @dabbingperson9236
      @dabbingperson9236 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      If it ever gets a past form I want it to be literally just a big stick.

    • @darcidious99
      @darcidious99 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      So a guardian from the test of strength shrines?
      ... Yeah I'm here for that

  • @frozenfairy2323
    @frozenfairy2323 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

    I remember when Honedge was first revealed a lot of people began to draw all sorts of people holding it in various poses, ready to fight with their sword pokemon. And then the dex entry for Honedge about it absorbing the soul of who ever holds it's hilt was revealed and everyone did a collective "eggghhhh. Oops."

    • @Topdoggie7
      @Topdoggie7 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Then they all died.

    • @Sarah12471
      @Sarah12471 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Personally, i chose to believe that that is a misunderstanding
      Its a defense mechanism, that was later misunderstood as malicious

  • @njivwathomassilavwe2056
    @njivwathomassilavwe2056 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +389

    People complaining about object mon must forget Magnemite exists

    • @SuperDanMan11100
      @SuperDanMan11100 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

      Or a literal Poké Ball knockoff in the form of Voltorb or Electrode.

    • @bubbykins4864
      @bubbykins4864 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      ​@@SuperDanMan11100And then they might say "b-but my object yokai!" like that 1) isn't one of the inspirations for all the subsequent object Pokémon and 2) excuses what, by their own self-proclaimed metric, is bad design.

    • @LordTyph
      @LordTyph 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      And the Vanillite line.

    • @Nosidda
      @Nosidda 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Or Geodude, which is literally a rock with arms. lol

    • @iicybrii4883
      @iicybrii4883 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Nosidda but that BARELY counts as an object mon.

  • @Redenem
    @Redenem 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Fun fact: The German names of Honedge and Duoblade make some additional references to mythical swords. Honedge's name, Gramokles, references yet another sword from norse mythology, Gram, which was used by Sigurd to slay the dragon Fafnir. The name Gramokles, and also, Duokles, Duoblade's german name, also reference the Sword of Damocles, which is pretty fitting. These Pokemon are literal Swords of Damocles, constantly putting their own weilder's life at threat by absorbing their life energy. (also Aegislash's name is Durengard which is probably a reference to the Durendal)

    • @chrismaeleon
      @chrismaeleon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Came looking for a comment that goes into the German namesake and its implications some more 🙏

    • @akatsukigajou1639
      @akatsukigajou1639 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Redenem the sword of damocles is also the same mystickal weapon that all 7 kings have from the anime series called k.

  • @misterzygarde6431
    @misterzygarde6431 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    I actually never minded the object Pokemon. Maybe it came from watching Dora the Explorer as a toddler.
    While I never used it, I think the Aegislash line is cool.
    EDIT: I know about Legends ZA
    -Also if you ask me, the biggest mistake Pokemon did was the lack of a Pokemon Z-

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Many of my favorits count into that group, chandalure, klefkey, as long as the concept and design are great...... The irony, of gen one and two being worst when it came to objects and lazy designers but gen oners complaining that new pokemon where "just somethingsomething"

    • @avalecto
      @avalecto 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      crazy news for ya

    • @Thatonenigqa
      @Thatonenigqa 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      oh boy do i got somee to tell you

  • @DementedDuskull
    @DementedDuskull 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I just noticed that when Aegislash is in Shield Forme, the dots on its shield turn white like eyes like the pre-evolutions, which makes the pattern around the circles look like teeth, so the shield is actually three faces that share three eyes, and I cannot unsee it now.

  • @evilmandrake
    @evilmandrake 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +199

    Who the Heck hated the Aegislash line? Apart from the awesome Ghost/Steel typing, they're super powerful and look pretty cool.

    • @victory8928
      @victory8928 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      They did ghost/steel before and better than goldhengo

    • @c0mpu73rguy
      @c0mpu73rguy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I did, objectmons sucks even if they’re swords.

    • @thecannonball34
      @thecannonball34 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      ​@c0mpu73rguy Why? Cursed/possessed objects are everywhere in Japanese folklore.

    • @c0mpu73rguy
      @c0mpu73rguy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@thecannonball34 Because the designs themselves are lazy, I wouldn’t mind objectmons if they were better done. Like Tangela for example, that thing is supposed to be a living noodle dish isn’t it? Yet it still looks like a pokemon. On the other hand, we have a sword… With, like, an eye around the hilt… That’s it.

    • @PunYT
      @PunYT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      ​@@c0mpu73rguyFound the genwunner.

  • @500werewolf
    @500werewolf 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

    Even if you hate "object pokemon", the Aegislash is one of the best of all of them. Not only because of how recognizable it is as an object, but also the inspirations its pokedex entries are pulling from. If you hate the Aegislash line because its an "object pokemon", you just hate "object pokemon" in general. Besides, its not like complaining about it is going to undesign all "object pokemon" and replace them with "true pokemon designs".

  • @ARDIZsq
    @ARDIZsq 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    The Aegislash line is genuinely one of my favorite evolution lines in the series. I started with X, and seeing Honedge for the first time was just incredible. Gen 6 really is underrated, and I’m happy to see it get even a little recognition

  • @venrosonitas
    @venrosonitas 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

    While the Gilgamesh from the Epic of Gilgamesh might not be known for using weapons, Gilgamesh in the Final Fantasy series is all about that. He goes around collecting the swords of every Final Fantasy protagonist, so in that way, they might also be referencing Final Fantasy's Gilgamesh.

    • @zebjensen4251
      @zebjensen4251 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Or fate as Gilgamesh has an entire vault full of weapons that he can fire like a machine gun.

    • @MegaPokefan97
      @MegaPokefan97 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The mythical gilgamesh did use an axe

    • @Firetrigger2110
      @Firetrigger2110 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Shout out to Greg. All my homies love Greg.

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@MegaPokefan97and was the first monster.... I love how things that are spoken about as new concepts are found way back in mesopotamian writings, from non binary people and how they are under the protection of istar against discrimination to the sympathetic monster vs monterous hero...... Gilgamesh slayed a monster just minding it's own business protecting its forest and when enkidu stumbled upon him and the devastation he layed upon the guarded ground he questioned just what he thought to have done there, not at all happy with his best bro in the slightest

    • @HeartAino193
      @HeartAino193 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And maybe even the Fate series' Gilgamesh because he's seen carrying a sword called Ea which could only be wielded by Gilgamesh himself who is also seen wearing golden armor. He also has a Noble Phantasm called Gate of Babylon that opens up a large portal from behind him that sends out many different weapons.

  • @thewalrusclown
    @thewalrusclown 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    15:59: The Franks actually named there county after the best hand weapon they made, The Franshecan battle axe, France.

    • @kitkatboard
      @kitkatboard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I can't tell if you're serious or not

    • @chinsaw2727
      @chinsaw2727 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kitkatboard
      It’s a theory

    • @kitkatboard
      @kitkatboard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chinsaw2727 The guys were called the Franks, the country France. It's that simple.

    • @chinsaw2727
      @chinsaw2727 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kitkatboard
      But why were the Franks called the Franks?

    • @kitkatboard
      @kitkatboard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chinsaw2727 According to Wikipedia, it could come from ancient German for "spear" or "strong willed/free man"

  • @williamswonderland3636
    @williamswonderland3636 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    12:25 I just realized if you wheeled Aegislash the 2 spikes on his hilt that act as shoulders might just dig into your arm while holding it and do more damage to your then you're opposite so maybe draining your life force is code for bleeding

  • @Castersvarog
    @Castersvarog 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I remember some old fan art that interpreted the Honedge line as insects that gripped and infused themselves into swords. It was a really cool interpretation of a Pokémon, especially how unique it was

  • @JumpNShootSH
    @JumpNShootSH 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    the abstract object pokemon have always been way more creative than "look, it's a dog but fire/electric"

    • @461weavile
      @461weavile 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Agreed, but some are better than others. Like Manectric is better than Boltund and Hisuian Growlithe is better than the normal.

    • @PunYT
      @PunYT 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Exactly! "Look! A cat that can breathe fire! A cat that controls plants! A cat that can swim underwater!" Seriously? Object mons a a break from that mold, and it almost never misses.

    • @geologist1235
      @geologist1235 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I agree, but I must note that poke'mon like Houndoom are pretty creative. A lot more than the poke'mon which are just a dog but [elemental].
      That may be why sylveon was my favorite eveelution.

    • @JumpNShootSH
      @JumpNShootSH 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@geologist1235 yeah I'd give the houndoom and Houndstone lines some creative merit def more than the stoutland or mabosstiff, and boltund lines

    • @agungnizam3695
      @agungnizam3695 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah, flareon for example is just dog that are red and breathe fire, whats so creative about that

  • @voidastralbirth
    @voidastralbirth 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +85

    By Arceus, he’s done it! He’s explained the inexplicable!

  • @dunnkids7263
    @dunnkids7263 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    aegislash existing gave us some awesome pokemon fusion designs, so i simply do not care if people think its lazy, its cool to me

    • @tarlaihope
      @tarlaihope 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Aegislash is the first Pokémon that made me wanna hunt a shiny.

    • @blaze048
      @blaze048 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@tarlaihopehonestly same

  • @teapottanuki5841
    @teapottanuki5841 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I've been wondering why they don't make an actual Swordfish design.

  • @jacksonvoet8312
    @jacksonvoet8312 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    I mean, I love Garbodor, and it’s technically an object mon. I want a regional variant based on corroded electronics being improperly disposed of.

    • @TheHammerGuy94
      @TheHammerGuy94 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We forget Muk and Weezing is just different forms of pollution
      Specifically Water and Air Pollution.
      Garbodor is just land pollution in general.
      Alolan Muk is the result of humans trying to solve polluted rivers. This Muk can eat solid waste.
      Galarian Weezing might look like industrial smoke stacks from factories, but are actually nuclear power plants spewing regular steam.
      Meanwhile Gigantabodor just turns into a mountain of today's excessive consumerism causing more pollution. you can see discarded pokedolls, toy planes and boats, Magikarp's skeleton, a whole building, an abandoned train, an even a *MASTER BALL* stuck to its body.

    • @461weavile
      @461weavile 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Great idea!

    • @metaltornado3457
      @metaltornado3457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It could be Poison/Electric type. Something like the Blob from fnaf, but instead of animatronic parts it's old corroded rusty electronics.

    • @SingingSealRiana
      @SingingSealRiana 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Very curious how that would look!

    • @Zero_de_Nova
      @Zero_de_Nova 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Its a cat

  • @user-hs1xb9tv6e
    @user-hs1xb9tv6e 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Honestly Im not even sure why even that hatred for object mon is a thing to begin with. Like you said they were around sense gen 1, Gamefreak just became better at designing them. And the fact that people see it like its a sign that they run out of ideas is honestly baffling.
    Also Aegislash is objectively one of the best object mon they have ever made.

    • @kitkatboard
      @kitkatboard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Orange dragon with fire on tail : genius, so inspired !
      Ghost sword inspired by a demon king, Greek mythology and tales of King Arthur : boo, soo uninspired, they're running out of ideas !

  • @binxwaxcap7832
    @binxwaxcap7832 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    This whole video is even funnier when you realize the things old Lockstin twins are saying were most likely actual comments Lockstin and his team sourced from the internet

    • @Retro_Red
      @Retro_Red 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      With the incoherent, 'ow, the edge' description of someone's "original" 'mon, that's probable.

  • @BlackRaptor77
    @BlackRaptor77 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    When i first saw Aegislash my first thought was it looked a enemy or mini boss i would find in legend of zelda game. It looked like a boss fight thats protecting great treasure like the eye of truth and reminds me of the weapons of a dark nut

  • @KaiCyreus
    @KaiCyreus 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +65

    do you think people who get mad about Brute Bonnet looking like a Poké Ball also look at birds and wonder why they look like aeroplanes?

    • @deadlydingus1138
      @deadlydingus1138 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Now we’re asking the real questions.

    • @CrownofMischief
      @CrownofMischief 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait, so are you suggesting we modelled Pokeballs after Brute Bonnet?

    • @Sunneh2013
      @Sunneh2013 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@CrownofMischiefthat's definitely an paradox theory restriction, tho. . if the ruff ol paradox mons were their original look thats just an coincidence

    • @CrownofMischief
      @CrownofMischief 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Sunneh2013 Yeah, I usually leaned into the paradox aspect to explain things like Brute Bonnet, I was just trying to follow OP's logic

    • @liamdell6319
      @liamdell6319 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Birds aren't real.

  • @pixelsheep3443
    @pixelsheep3443 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    How do you feel about the comparisons to Stormbringer, the cursed blade? The soul-sucking eye-in-the-sword thing and Aegislash's shiny looks so much like an homage.

  • @TheGamingMalamutt
    @TheGamingMalamutt 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Lockstin woke up one day and said "ya know what? I'm going to attack some genwunners today" and I'm absolutely here for it xD

    • @Nosidda
      @Nosidda 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      As a former genwunnder myself, I found it hilarious. lol
      Gen 1 will always be my favorite, nostalgia is powerful like that. But I did eventually come around to appreciate the rest as well, the newer Pokemon are just as cool if not cooler in many ways. In fact my favorite mythic is not even gen 1 at all, it's Hoopa.
      Genwunners are silly. lol

    • @addison_v_ertisement1678
      @addison_v_ertisement1678 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It felt alot more like strawman arguments

    • @kitkatboard
      @kitkatboard 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@addison_v_ertisement1678 Genwunners are much rarer and tamer than they used to be. During gen 5-6, you REALLY couldn't mention Pokémon without someone weeping about ice cream and keychain Pokémon and the series being on the downfall ever since gen 2.

    • @harouin9263
      @harouin9263 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      im a genwunner, but not the usual negative one. I really appreciate all gens, I just put gen 1 in higher regards
      plus I love all objectmons. next are the humanoids. then plants. i like animal-based monsters the least

  • @cofagrigusfan24
    @cofagrigusfan24 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    3:43
    i played Shantae Half-Genie hero a lot
    but i can't remember a possessed sword in it, unless you mean the scimitar spell of Shantae or Risky's sword

  • @darkviking7135
    @darkviking7135 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Finally an Aegislash video, my favourite pokémon
    Edit: I assume people think Gillgard comes from Gilgamesh, and associates him with sword, is because of his apearance in the Fate franchise. In it his Noble Phantasm, Gate of Babylon, let's him summon a bunch of weapons, mainly swords but also other weapons like spears and such.

  • @terrasalmon
    @terrasalmon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    Finally someone who defeated his nostalgia and said the truth we needed

    • @TheDeathmail
      @TheDeathmail 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Okay, this "Genwunner" complaint thing is more common than any genwunner complaint...
      Any real "Genwunner" complaint stopped like over 10 years ago... and even then, it started when a group of old fans saw some of the weirder Gen 5 Pokemon and had complaints that would have died down if people just ignored them...
      Basically, this "defeated nostalgia thing" is nostalgia itself and is basically a complaint towards arguments of the past that few hold... and it's call to attention is more common than it's very existance...

    • @terrasalmon
      @terrasalmon 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@TheDeathmail im just saying that some pokèmon fans like a design because its nostalgic no matter how terrible it well be im not complaining about genwunners (sorry btw)

    • @andrewharris1344
      @andrewharris1344 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@TheDeathmailI think it’s more so about pointing out the contradictions in the new Pokémon bad complaint as while it’s fine to have gen 1 mons as your favorite. Casting Judgement on new mons for things the old generations did and ignoring that is weird to me. But what a fandom without its contradictions.

  • @murata_5585
    @murata_5585 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Actually the Franch name of Aegislash refers to both Excalibur and Aegis because in French Aegis is Egide

  • @chelseadyett4457
    @chelseadyett4457 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    You are without a slight doubt my favorite Poketuber. I watch other Pokechannels before bed just to fill the time between your videos. The amount of work you put into setting your videos apart, isn't gone unnoticed!

  • @ArtsyStarleta
    @ArtsyStarleta 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I have literally never had any problem with the concept behind a pokemon before and I think that's where a lot of 'mon criticism falls flat - There are no bad concepts (generally speaking), just bad execution. There are several pokemon I don't actually like the design of, but that comes from a place of character design and not whatever the pokemon was actually based on.
    (Also I literally love learning about random historical/cultural/scientific things through the lens of pokemon lol. It's exactly why I subscribed to your channel. It's like a massive autism win.)

  • @brianmoyachiuz905
    @brianmoyachiuz905 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'd love to see other variations of the Honedge line like maybe possessing other types of weapons like an axe or hammer
    Best nicknames for the line are Pownedge, Hexcalibur, and Souledge

    • @avoprim5028
      @avoprim5028 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @MORISAKI WIN OFFICIAL be like: Great, and, I approve of all three nicknames, especially because Honedge’s Japanese name is literally Hitotsuki, as if the demons from Donbrothers that have the name Hitotsuki would actually have Honedge as a part of their arsenal.

  • @unknowable4147
    @unknowable4147 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Love the old Lockstins in the beginning 😂

  • @chuckjonesz
    @chuckjonesz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you for adding history lessons to Pokemon to make them even cooler than they would have been normally.

  • @draghettis6524
    @draghettis6524 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    3:48 Putting Rubilax ? now that's a man who knows his classics.

  • @wertylegends4314
    @wertylegends4314 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Smoothest sponser transition ive ever seen. Congrats man

  • @VioletLunaChan
    @VioletLunaChan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Aegislash's German name is also "Durengard", coming from Durendal.

  • @MateCo19
    @MateCo19 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As someone who loves swords to no end, this is the video for me. The history of swords is so fascinating

  • @Danivan444
    @Danivan444 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Can you do a video explaining the origin forms for the Dialga, Palkia and Giratina?

  • @Odd_Designz
    @Odd_Designz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Aegislash has honestly been one of my faves for years

  • @astaroththeashen4942
    @astaroththeashen4942 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Very nice video about one of my favorite gen 6 pokemon! Kinda wish you'd brought up Joyeuse as another example of a famous French sword of legend, but I can understand why you wouldn't. I've never heard of an Aegislash that changes color 30 times a day.

  • @danielstokes2127
    @danielstokes2127 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Never had a problem with aigislashs design, always love the lore deep dive

  • @BrokenBluebird6
    @BrokenBluebird6 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    25:09 Suddenly the name of the UNSC Infinity's shipboard A.I Roland makes sense to me. Durandel from Marathon (Pre Halo) and Cortana (Cortain) are both legendary swords in name.

  • @smelt0049
    @smelt0049 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    What would be cool is if it had an evolution variant that was based on holy swords like Excalibur (I’m thinking fairy, steel)

    • @MegaPokefan97
      @MegaPokefan97 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      They could have made a Paldean Honedge based on Spanish sabers, evolving into ascalon (Saint Giorgios' sword) mixed with the Dragon Slayer from Berserk

  • @randommemeaddict249
    @randommemeaddict249 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Supprised you never mentioned the amazing shinies this line has. The red blades of Honedge and Doublade, and the red edge of Aegislash. The silver regular and red shiny remind me of the Masamune and Muramasa blades you mentioned before.

    • @bornasotoudeh4044
      @bornasotoudeh4044 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      He did mention them, just only in editing. He shows the red blade and mentions that while that’s on screen.

    • @randommemeaddict249
      @randommemeaddict249 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bornasotoudeh4044 oh cool I didn't notice. Aegislash has one of the best shinies imo

  • @paulista_rodrigues
    @paulista_rodrigues 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Pokemon's biggest mistake was not making Pokemon Z

    • @travisbloom2226
      @travisbloom2226 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Boy is there some good news for you!

  • @TheSapphicRaven
    @TheSapphicRaven 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    im bummed out the Aegislash line isnt coming back with the S&V. it was the ace pokemon i had set for a team based on one of my favorite characters

  • @shaunmeldrum4302
    @shaunmeldrum4302 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It's videos like this that make me really appreciate Pokemon that I once looked over. 🗡⚔️🛡

  • @Daniel_Coffman
    @Daniel_Coffman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    On your point about Oda Nobunaga, well, as much as he's romanticized as a villain due to even calling himself the "demon king," what people don't get is that what he did, unlike the likes of Adolf Hitler or other cruel leaders, wasn't anything that other daimyou of the time period wouldn't do, as samurai actually tended to be very cruel, themselves; much as Night Slash's inspiration of a samurai assassinating an innocent person at night to test their new blade.
    Plus, him calling himself the "demon king" was actually purely in sarcasm and satire in response to Takeda Shingen in a letter calling himself the "head priest of the Tendai sect monks," when in reality, Shingen wasn't even a believer in the Tendai sect, let alone their "head priest." Thus, Nobunaga was basically flipping Shingen the bird and saying, "Pfft, 'head priest,' my foot. If you're the head priest of a sect that you don't even frickin' follow in the first place, then I'm the demon king of the Sixth Heaven."

    • @mindwarp42
      @mindwarp42 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Especially since Nobunaga didn't wield a cursed blade. As noted in the video, he used a Masamune (Kotegiri), not a Muramasa. (Side note: Muramasa was never a pupil of Masamune, as that was literally impossible due to when they lived. The legend of Juuchi Yosamu/Muranasa vs. Yawarakai-Tei/Masamune is more a parable at best.)

  • @sparkxii.
    @sparkxii. 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had Aegislash on my Y team, it was fantastic! I love Aegislash line so much, thank you for giving this line its own vid :]

  • @Asulutionator
    @Asulutionator 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    25:05
    Durendal gives the german name of Aegislash its name. It's called Durengard. So the sword/attack part of the name is from Durendal and the shield/protect part is "gard" which is similar or the same to the english guard.

  • @daraen673
    @daraen673 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In French we pronounce Exagide like Exajeed, because "égide" is the french for aegis, and both in french and english we pronounce these G like J not GU

    • @julien827
      @julien827 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no no no wait, in french there are specific rules as to when a g is hard and when its soft, in english its completly random all the time and the reason you can see similarities is because a lot of english words came from french

  • @tommasobaggio2518
    @tommasobaggio2518 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So. I wanna take a time to get trought my fav pokemons, we get some things like: Gardevoir, the pokemon hated because "it's sex bait"; castform, the cutest concept ever, but everyone is "eheh, boobs, funny xD"; Necrozma, the pokemon that "eh, it's just an edgy crystal, and also copied kyurem and giratina, and USUM suck..."; and of course, Aegislash as well.
    Ultimately, I learned that a "shut-up" is always the response for this kind of comments. 🙏

    • @deadlydingus1138
      @deadlydingus1138 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’ve never heard anyone call Necrozma a rip-off of Kyurem. Is that something people do?

  • @Gaiacrusher9fan2
    @Gaiacrusher9fan2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am never going to think of Nobunaga, King Arthur, or Gilgamesh like a normal person thanks to the Fate series.

  • @SEGASister
    @SEGASister 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okay, probably the funniest segue into a sponsored ad XD

  • @kuitaranheatmorus9932
    @kuitaranheatmorus9932 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Pokemon's biggest mistake: *Not bring mega evolution back*
    *Trust.*
    Overall amazing video describing this topic amongst Pokémon because it's pretty common and I hate it for sure.

    • @willofthewinds3222
      @willofthewinds3222 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      To be honest, all I want from Mega Evolution is a "generic Mega Stone" of sorts. Doesn't change the Pokemon's form, maybe 20 points for each stat or 30 in the two highest stats and 20 in the next two highest, but still allows Pokemon teams without one of the 20 popular Pokemon to utilize the mechanic.
      This isn't saying this will replace the Mega Evolution, just giving mons without the special rocks to still "mega-evolve"

  • @otaviotrevisan1516
    @otaviotrevisan1516 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hiii!!

  • @ThatGamingChannel881
    @ThatGamingChannel881 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Really liked this kind of video, hope there are more videos that go over the origins of pokemon designs.

  • @notpopcorn180
    @notpopcorn180 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anytime lockstin posts it really makes my day thanks

  • @Santoryu90
    @Santoryu90 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The hate for object Pokémon really is so overblown and basically ignoring the Pokémon we had since gen 1. Also, I didn’t think about how a curse and or living sword is a pretty common trope.

  • @Witzwo1
    @Witzwo1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The German name is Durengard.

  • @jumpingspiderjesusfreak6219
    @jumpingspiderjesusfreak6219 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So that’s where Jim Butcher got the Sword of Hope from!

  • @chereng9250
    @chereng9250 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The "IMPOSSIBLE" and transition afterwards had me rolling lmao

  • @Goosiest807
    @Goosiest807 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Am i the only one who thinks lockstin is a master of transitioning into sponsors?

  • @gioanysgonzalez3396
    @gioanysgonzalez3396 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Honestly I don’t get why people hate on humanoid Pokémon, especially the starters. It’s like unfair that Pokémon like Blaziken who’s despite looking like a dude in a suit gets praised and love for looking cool yet Pokémon like Cinderace get the “it’s looks like furry bait” insult. Like seriously they’re both bipedal from start to finish so I don’t understand the hate.

    • @thedragonwarrior5861
      @thedragonwarrior5861 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Nor do I

    • @kaitogirldraws
      @kaitogirldraws 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think the main thing is that blazing isn't clothed and doesn't have a full time job as a football star member

    • @gioanysgonzalez3396
      @gioanysgonzalez3396 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@kaitogirldraws But at least the Scorbunny line makes more sense for why it’s a humanoid. Like little rabbit that loves playing soccer evolving into a sports mascot makes way more sense compared to a baby chick evolving into a man bird because it knows kung fu.

  • @speedsong9152
    @speedsong9152 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loving this in depth Aegislash analysis. So cool how the honedge's shiny is inspired by a demon blade

  • @literallyapenguin7576
    @literallyapenguin7576 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:43
    Old Silly Lockstin
    ~1996 - 2023~
    Crushed to death by the overwhelming sense of Gen Wunnerness... And Swords... A lot of swords

  • @vyldim3401
    @vyldim3401 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Ooooh nice sword! *Shlink* Wonder why it was just, here, weird.... Oh theres text here "Beware of choking", wonder what that means.
    Also European swords hell yea \[T]/

    • @U.F.O
      @U.F.O 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      D&D encounter

  • @Danyboy459
    @Danyboy459 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Aegislash is very interesting as an idea of a pokemon, so in my personal opininion, if the Gamefreak give to Aegislash a mega, it will share similarities with a Sword and Sheild forms⚔🛡

  • @ShadyRK9
    @ShadyRK9 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The Pokémon where people say "they're just swords" without causing an uproar! ⚔️

  • @Beans211
    @Beans211 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i love this channel i hope to see you grow more

  • @monster25man
    @monster25man 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My most favorite pokemon...ever
    and I was already sold about it's base form Honedge...but then its final evolution appared and I forever loved it since

  • @MattwosRandomNonContent
    @MattwosRandomNonContent 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    14:49 I didn't know dwarves were depicted as what we would describe in modern times as "gnomes"
    Actually explains a lot about the dwarves in Final Fantasy.

  • @venomoussound5050
    @venomoussound5050 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing video as always. Think you'll ever do a Salamence themed one

  • @ScottyDooVGC
    @ScottyDooVGC 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude, your sponsor ads are the only sponsor ads I don't mind watching. Thanks for that!

  • @Fefe65800
    @Fefe65800 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Aegislash is my #1 favourite pokemon, gotta love any aegislash content

  • @MattwosRandomNonContent
    @MattwosRandomNonContent 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    25:40 The superhero nerd in me finds it amusing you used Grayson's _Nightwing_ mask instead of the Robin mask because he hasn't been Robin for a very long time in the comics.

  • @FiniteMan1933
    @FiniteMan1933 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos really helped me appreciate just how deep these pokemon designs actually are, the team responsible doesn't get enough credit.

  • @thequagestclodsire
    @thequagestclodsire 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:47 Oh my god Rubilax!

  • @SummonerGER
    @SummonerGER 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    25:05 fun fact in german Aegislash is called Durengard
    I think you can add 1 + 1 together

  • @phoenix21562
    @phoenix21562 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Aegislash is my favorite pokemon, thank you for making a video on him!

  • @vanguardbreaker8826
    @vanguardbreaker8826 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wakfu cameo at 3:49, that was a pleasant surprise

  • @bramblechaser162
    @bramblechaser162 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That advertisement transition was so silly you got me to angry chuckle. good job!

  • @freddieadams8435
    @freddieadams8435 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Glad to see the continuation of the dakota bit.

  • @josephobermeier2435
    @josephobermeier2435 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was the best genwunner jab I have ever seen! haha

  • @phantom_jay13
    @phantom_jay13 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love objectmon, love honedge line, and love ghost types
    safe to say this line is among fav
    also nice spin on haunted armor, a monster type! if you see the way we're spinnin it yknow

  • @gemraldkid6304
    @gemraldkid6304 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man, I remember checking back on the website constantly before the games that would become my first mainline Pokémon experience came out.
    I would look at the Honege line, excited at the idea of getting one for myself.
    Awesome design.

  • @MrSkysenGames
    @MrSkysenGames 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2:22 Well, that and it's a Mimic of sorts.
    "Oh boy, loot!" ... "Oh no, monster!"

  • @christian1348
    @christian1348 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:50. That reminded me a lot of Bray Wyatt's Firefly Funhouse.

  • @tylorian5168
    @tylorian5168 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How funny, I was actually thinking about this line today and how cool the ghost/steel type is 😁.
    I love the object-based Pokémon, and many of my favorites are in this category.

  • @gamemasteranthony2756
    @gamemasteranthony2756 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Object” is actually one of the body types I am using for my Pokémon 5e homebrew. It grants the trait “Perfect Disguise”, which grants them an advantage to Hide checks as long as they stand still.
    Also…where did you get that replica of Zacian’s Sword?

  • @AceSpadeThePikachu
    @AceSpadeThePikachu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Honestly I looove the Aegislash line and I hope it gets regional and/or "paradox" variants in the future. Like, an Honedge that actually looks like a katana, or a "future" Honedge that's basically a lightsaber.
    Or maybe a "hammer" version to pay tribute to Mjolnir, to be wielded by a variant of Tinkaton.

  • @tristanpayne6322
    @tristanpayne6322 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The sponsor segway caught me off guard😂

  • @robertsimpson9010
    @robertsimpson9010 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Agislash wasn’t my favorite on sight but they carried me through Galar on my all ghost team. I kinda love them now.

  • @ToaCody1
    @ToaCody1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You gotta love when you make a Fakemon (or really any) concept and it turns out to be thematically coherent with a myth or the like you didn't even know about at the time.