I've listened to Gloria's story maybe 5-6 different times from different content creators. Mr.Ballen is the first person to tell her story in a way that makes her a human as opposed to an anomaly. Gloria was a real person and I'm sure her family would love to hear her story told in a way that makes her human. It makes me proud to be someone who enjoys the strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story format ❤
I worked with Julie after this event (I'm a retired RN). I would just like to add, Julie was in top physical shape during all of this. She had no fault in this whatsoever. Just makes me mad that they put that hysteria theory out there. It caused her a lot of mental anguish as well.
As someone who has studied chemistry and work at pharmaceutical lab, this series of events had to be absolutely perfect for that chemical reaction to occur. That’s just amazing.. no wonder why they couldn’t figure it out. It’s sooo astronomically rare.
As a chemist, can you tell me the exact name of the chemical substance that as created that became deadly? I thought he said dimethylsulfate but I cant seem to find anything about it being a nerve gas, only that is is carcinogenic
Still, I can see how use of this remedy can be the issue since the standard medical treatment procedures themselves acted as the catalyst. In other words, you don't want that chemical involved while you're at risk of having a medical emergency.
@@Jaspergap Dimethyl sulfate was discovered in the early 19th century in an impure form.[3] J. P. Claesson later extensively studied its preparation.[4][5] It was investigated as a candidate for possible use chemical warfare in World War I[6][7] in 75% to 25% mixture with methyl chlorosulfonate (CH3ClO3S) called "C-stoff" in Germany, or with chlorosulfonic acid called "Rationite" in France.[8] Dimethyl sulfate is carcinogenic[10] and mutagenic, highly poisonous, corrosive, and environmentally hazardous.[17] It is absorbed through the skin, mucous membranes, and gastrointestinal tract, and can cause a fatal delayed respiratory tract reaction. An ocular reaction is also common. There is no strong odor or immediate irritation to warn of lethal concentration in the air. The LD50 (acute, oral) is 205 mg/kg (rat) and 140 mg/kg (mouse), and LC50 (acute) is 45 ppm / 4 hours (rat).[18]The vapor pressure of 65 Pa[19] is sufficiently large to produce a lethal concentration in air by evaporation at 20 °C. Delayed toxicity allows potentially fatal exposures to occur prior to development of any warning symptoms.[17] S
Soooo the family of the woman with cancer denied everything even when that doctor got sick to the point of her bones starting to rot, and the other woman's family got that much money?? So unfair
I feel like Julie’s side of the story often goes undernoticed. A young doctor who just happened to be involved in a completely unpredictable accident and suffered severe consequences. It takes “wrong place wrong time” to a whole new scale. And at the end of it all, suffering lasting damage and getting no settlement, she was still able to see the bright side of how it made her a better doctor.
It's crazy how this explanation was destroyed in court and the hospital had to pay damages for using cleaning chemicals that poisoned staff. I guess this fantastic story is more entertaining. There is a reason 3 judges and 2 juries called bullshit on it. The hospital had to pay damages for what actually happened.
@@Yourmomshousemyrules I call bullshit sorry, they settled which means the only decision made by the judge was whether they agreed to allow it settle. The hospital never admitted any wrongdoing nor were they found in a court of law to have committed any wrongdoing. I don’t know how she actually died or whether the explanation given here is true so not arguing that part
My mom survived ovarian cancer only due to her persistence and defiance of doctors. She was suffering severe stomach pain for weeks. We took her to the hospital twice and both times they just told her it was indigestion or constipation. Then one night my mom was curled up in bed writhing in pain. Anyone who knows my mom knows she has a VERY high pain tolerance. She's a tough lady. I had never seen her like that in my entire life. This time in the hospital she told them she's not leaving until they find out what's wrong and she threatened to sue them if something bad happens to her. Finally, they ran all the expensive tests and scans that they were reluctant to perform, and they found a tumor on her ovary. It had wrapped around her intestine, which was what caused her so much pain as her digestive tract was essentially pinched off by this tumor. For any ladies reading this, she had a drop in appetite for a couple months before this and dropped weight quickly without exercising. She would eat but then get full very quickly. And obviously the aforementioned stomach pain. My mom said she knew there was something foreign in her body. She couldn't physically feel it with her hands, but it was something she was consciously aware of. You know your body better than anyone else. If you feel something is wrong, don't let doctors turn you away. Trust your instincts. If my mom had not stood firm against the doctors, she would not be here today.
I can’t agree more. In 2020 I had a horrible pain inside a lot and I said to my friend one day “I think my ovarian cysts are back. But in tumor form now.” I went to the hospital the next morning and they found a softball sized tumor on my right ovary. A year prior I had a roughly half dollar sized cysts removed from that same ovary. I just KNEW when I felt that pain, they were back and they were bad.
Glad she survived, my daughter was ignored also, she died. Because she was single with no children, they felt a. Lawsuit would not get them enought money. In other words she wasnt worth it to them.
I almost died in 1987 because I was 17 yrs old and nobody wanted to listen to me. They kept saying I was constipated or had a small blockage. Turns out I had a blood clot in my small intestines and by the time I went into shock twice, they finally decided to operate and find out what was wrong. 6 1/2 feet of my small intestines had gangrened, I had an infection in my blood, and ended up being in the hospital for 2 months to get well. Absolutely listen to your body and insist on them doing something!
Really messed up that Gloria’s body basically poisoned all those medical workers & Gloria’s family got 800k out of it while the Doctor who has all those health issues now got her case dismissed. Injustice.
@henrysummers8792 - Crazy alright. Three autopsies confirm Gloria's tragic death as cancer related failure of her vital organs. The hospital was also investigated multiple times with a clean slate. If Gloria's family is so adamant that she wasn't taking DMOS, what is the explanation for the white crystals in her blood sample? Why was her skin greasy? Why did she emit a garlic odour? The science and evidence is pretty clear - but the family still gets $800,000...? And Julie gets nothing...? No less a tragic story, but the outcome should be the other way around.
The doctor who said she became a better doctor after that ordeal, those are always the best doctors. They're the best because they know what it's like to have their life drastically effected by an illness. Good to hear that she survived.
I know I was a medical assistant. I lost my parents young. My mother passed, and the circumstances are what made me always bring family concerns to Dr's attention. Saved more than one patient because of it.
Thanks for taking the time to talk about Gloria as a person. This story is talked about frequently in the mystery community, but this is the first time I've heard her described in a humanizing manner.
The mystery is that the doctors overlooked Gloria's cancer to begin with. In the '80's, the locals in Mexico accused a major US corporation of stealing the fresh water supply near their factory. That was America's way of telling Mexicans and other Latinos to drop dead. Gloria was white-looking but apparently that still didn't help. Maybe it deflected overt racism but her medical staff knew her last name.
I'm not making this stuff up. During the covid-19 pandemic, a white nurse named Nicole Sirotek was assigned to a New York City hospital. The declared on TH-cam that the doctors were routinely, knowingly misdiagnosing black and Latino patients with coronavirus and summarily murdering them in various experimental ways. There's also a healthy illegal but sanctioned slave trade developing across the Mexican border.
I was in the ER at Riverside General the night this happened. I worked for Goodhew Ambulance and was sitting on the rear bumper of my Ambulance when people came running out. I had just started my career in EMS, this was my hometown so its hard to forget.
Poor Gloria... I feel so bad for her, her boyfriend, and her children. That being said, the lawsuit settlement was so unjust in my personal opinion. The hospital paid nearly one million dollars to her family despite forensic scientists undoubtedly proving the freak series of events, yet they dismissed their own nurse who was actively trying to save Gloria's life.
I agree. The hospital was foolish to settle, especially when they proved multiple times there was no leak or causation on their part. Sad situation all around
Of course the family would still sue no matter what type of concrete evidence there is.. its all about MONEY... If anyone deserves to get that "Settlement money" its Dr. Julie.. the family shouldve emphatize and given that Money to Dr. Julie because she's the most affected of this incident. Mrs. Gloria died because of her cancer, Dr. Julie got poisoned because of some unfortunate circumstances
@@phenomenalfx7134 I've noticed a strange pattern in my half century here. The weirdest and seemingly least probable sequence of events somehow find a way to come together, almost as if by some random invisible intelligent design. The more perceivably impossible certain sets of contributing factors become, the more probable certain outcomes become. I believe it's these seemingly intelligent, cohesive and impossible patterns that lead every culture on earth today, as well as historically, to have mythology and religions based upon the concept of an omniscient super intelligent god-like entity existing beyond our tangible senses. Even though it could actually be a scientifically explainable multi-dimensional phenomenon that our science hasn't evolved to understand yet.. and possibly never will.
@@phenomenalfx7134 The physician was still alive to tell the experience of what they found odd with the patient. Garlic smell, greasy body and crystals on blood. A scientist can piece up these essential information to conclude what happened if provided these information and fortunately relevent people were alive and available to narrative these info to the investigating scientists. Heck I am a chemistry graduatte and listening to the story initially I could have told some internal chemical reaction must have taken place as its common in terminal patients to go for unreliable alternates
I was born in the elevator of that hospital as my mom was being rushed to a surgical suite. A doctor who just happened to be in the car with us saved my little blue self from death by breathing life back into me. I’m sorry to hear this tragic bit of history that took place in the very hospital where me and all my siblings came into the world..
Finally, the best version of the Riverside hospital story. It's so good to hear him giving Gloria the respect she deserves as a human being, even though I knew before he said it, I still felt my heart drop when he discussed her passing.
I’ve heard this story multiple times throughout the year but you are by far the best narrator of it. Including adding details that may seem small but add to the story to make it feel whole and as though we were there when it happens. I’ve noticed a few times that you upload stories that I already know about but I am always quick to watch them anyways because of your talent and the work you put in to storytelling - it’s like hearing them for the first time. Amazing work.
Right?! I've heard this case before but it's always told so blase and matter of factly. He makes it so much more interesting and dramatic its like hearing it for the first time. Plus, the other accounts don't mention that Gloria had a UTI, nor do any of them mention the crap shoot excuse of everyone faking being sick.
As a nurse, I appreciate you much research you put into this! I’ve heard this story a few times and you make her a PERSON - not a toxic “thing”. New follower!
@@pleonexia4772 Just because you have never heard the story of this woman doesn't mean many other people haven't either. This story has been told many many times by many content creators and I've heard a few of them myself. Most of them always make her out to be some biological killing weapon. It was nice to hear this story told as it should have always been told!! You think way too much of yourself I think.
You're going to love Mr Ballen's content because that's what I appreciate the most about him too - that he doesn't dehumanise the people he talks about for clicks.
Overian and Cervical Cancer are both hard to detect. If you have any odd symptoms or fresh blood go to your doctor immediately. I got Overian cancer at 25 and damn near caught it too late. I had a full hysterectomy at 25, that was tough to deal with mentally and emotionally but I'm still here for my 2 kids.
Stories backed up by medical studies and scientific facts are so stimulating. You can make a 20+ minute video seem like only a moment has passed with how you hold my attention
Because it’s real life. You are actually learning something. Any story can entertain, but not every story can teach. With so many other and arguably more engaging ways to be entertained (TV, books, friends, games, hobbies) in the modern world, education becomes more valuable and, ironically, entertaining.
One of the best things in TH-cam is to accidentally forget about a channel like Mr Ballin and come back after a few months to non-stop amazing content!
Right - I thought he had switched over completely to that podcast thing but I just binged 3 months of strange and mysterious and it's perfect for today because the antibiotics I took for a bacteria infection in my sinuses gave me the worst and I mean the worst allergies- I'm so uncomfortable and trying to keep my mind off it all. So glad I get to binge!
For real, I recently wanted to watch his videos, but realized quickly that I forgot his name. I spent like 30 minutes looking up things like "creepy story videos" and "Unsettling stories" just to try and generally look for his channel. So glad I found it eventually. Turns out I was subscribed the whole time XD
You're so absolutely right. Forgetting these stories is always a treat that allows one to shake the dismal brutality of reality for even a single moment over in a New York millisecond. Remembering the channel, watching his videos, and having to wait for it to happen again is only bad after you reach a certain threshold of the strangely fucked up, mysteriously fucked up, and dark fuckings up delivered in story form, at which point afterward it is simply a waiting game where the only cheat codes either come in bottles or tablet form.
Interesting that Gloria's family was paid by the hospital but the Dr wasn't. Especially when you take into account that Gloria,'s (while inadvertently), actions caused it all and the Dr was just trying to save her life.
I was a nurse for 30 years and found this case very interesting. Before I retired, we were taught to list all of the patients meds, including,home remedies, over the counter medications, and granny’s cure for everything! You just never know how these drugs will interact with treatments. I was a Nurse Anesthetist and many of the anesthetic drugs can be quite dangerous when mixed with other chemicals. Always list everything you ingest regardless of how insignificant you think it is!
I take a lot of work out supplements. Creatine, citruline, red beet root extract, mucuna powder, cod liver oil, stinging nettle. After reading your comment if it ever comes up I will report what I take.
From all the times I’ve seen this story, I’ve never heard that she had cancer, or that her children were under the age of 13. Thank you for properly telling her story
I’ve heard versions of the story before but always quickly summed up with “a strange lady that oozed some toxic substance and it was never found out what it was.” Thank you so much for explaining not only who she was, that she was critically ill and still found time to be there for her kids even though she must’ve been in a lot of pain and discomfort, and thank you very much for clearing up what has been a decades long mystery. It’s always amazing to me how thoroughly you must research everything you tell us. Thanks again for being such a great storyteller.
Same here. I always heard that she was somehow radioactive and killed several members of the hospital staff unless that's another situation I'm confusing with each other
This is so sad. Julie, of all people, should have gotten a pay out. She never did anything but her job. Nevertheless, her determination to continue pursuing her career and helping people is so lovely!
She was the one who should have been given the money, not the family, since it was Gloria who caused this, even though she absolutely couldn't have foreseen such an outcome.
@@irena4545 But there was that point that Gloria has actually gone into that hospital a few years earlier with symptoms and signs that she likely had cancer.But the doctors missed it.They likely could have saved Gloria earlier.
Ya know, great story telling aside, its a shame for the kids to lose their mom so young, only to relive it in all kinds of youtube videos calling her the 'toxic lady' so im glad you showed them some respect in not naming the video something to that effect. You actually spoke of her like a human being, not a science experiment. And out of all the videos ive seen that mention her and the mystery surrounding what happened with her, youve been the first and only person to clearly explain what happened to her and the nurses who tried to help her. Another fantastic video, sir!
I remember from an inorganic chemistry class learning that DMSO is also a very good solvent and is notoriously difficult to be shielded against (meaning it can pass through most materials easily). It can also dissolve many different compounds much more efficiently than water. Our lecturer warned us that although DMSO itself isnt dangerous for you, it's a very good carrier for anything dissolved in it to be abosrbed very fast into your body. He told us about this one case where a women was working with a dangerous organometallic chemical which normally can't pass through your skin on it's own, but the lab used DMSO to dissovle the organometal. One tiny drop of the mixture fell on the women's gloved hands and she immediately took off the gloves and washed her hands. However she still died from organometal poisoning. So when using DMSO it's very important to make sure nothing gets dissolved in it that you dont want absorbed into your body accidentaly, or at least make sure you never touch it in case it contaminated.
We use DMSO when working with horses with swelling to helping reduce the inflammation quickly. I’ve used it myself with absorbing veterinary gel. Worked great.
I wanna thank Mr Ballen so much because I was recently paralyzed from the waist down and was told I wouldnt walk again. Obviously this sent me into a deep depression but I started watching your videos and it weirdly helped me some how not just give up and to really start working hard to prove the Dr's wrong and be able to walk again I can say I'm not walking any marathons and I kinda resemble a newborn baby giraffe when I do walk but I'll take it lol. But what I'm trying to say Is thanks for what you do it helped me through the toughest time of my life God bless you and yours brother !!!
Many have spoken how this woman was not treated as a person in previous accounts. You have the ability to look at everybody you speak about and treat each of them with respect and understanding. That's rare. And we are all a mixture. No one is their worst day or their best. I am an RN and though very sad this is fascinating.
That's awesome. I can't understand why doctors would say something like that to a patient. "You will never walk again" are such defeating words coming from a professional. They should always urge their patients to try.
Congratulations on your hard work!! I know it’s not always easy, but you seem to have the will to help yourself!! You’re an inspiration and I applaud you!!
Being in the USAF and stationed in the middle of absolutely nowhere for 3 years, I gotta say that this man has single-handedly made this a whole lot better. There's no better way than to spend my long hours of work listening and watching your videos. The undisputed king of spooky storytelling. MrBallen, calling you the GOAT would only serve to undermine you lol hope this new year treats you and your family well!
I was a vet tech for a decade in the early 2000s. We used DMSO regularly to treat our major surgery patients. We wore gloves but because our patients were rarely still, our arms were often smeared with the substance. We always knew because we immediately tasted garlic. But we never had any exposures this severe.
To add a note, while Gloria's family does not believe Gloria used DMSO..that's quite possible as far as doing it deliberately is concerned..and it could still have happened anyway. DMSO was also used as an attempted delivery method for date rape drugs, and just to take 'drugs' and deliver the active parts of herbal remides. I recall this as a thing of some controversy as it may or may not work that way depending on what you are trying...but people did try and the people who do /that/ kind of thing are the same kinds of people who might say, replace the contents of your usual lotion with DMSO +their favorite drug or other thing. She may not have known whatsoever at all that this was the case. For it to become Dimethyl Sulfide though. That's horrifying chemistry.
I’ve heard this story so many times…BUT when Mr B tells it, it just hits different. The context, the research he does and the humanising manner he talks about victims and the people involved is top-notch. 👌🏻
😂😂 I thought it was just me. I’ve heard some iteration of this story, maybe about three times before. Yet, somehow this was like hearing it for the first time, but better. I was listening with my headphones, but every time he said someone dropped, I would gasp and say out loud “oh my God.” 😱 My husband came running in thinking something was wrong. I couldn’t help it, it was like I was there, watching the whole thing! That man can tell a good story, if nothing else.
@@Msboochie2 Wait, I'm condused. Did MrBallen already do this video before. I remember he did a video like this, but this one as more detail than the last one he did.
That's the difference between being genuine vs just easy clicks with a title that makes the subject feel like a weirdo that needs to be poked at with a stick.
The format of this channel is so comforting. It's basically a son telling his mother a story that he's researched extremely thoroughly. It's like he was there each time. Very thankful for your content.
On one hand, "comforting" seems like an odd choice of descriptor to associate with this channel, given how often the content is of a morbid nature. On the other hand, you did make a point to single out the storytelling format, not the topics. And even if you hadn't, it's true that a MrBallen upload gives me the same feeling as comfort food would induce.
I’ve thought of, and researched, Gloria’s death many, many, many times through the years. Your description of events is the most logical and comprehensive I’ve found. I was there at Riverside General Hospital when this happened. My mom was on shift that day. It was crazy. Thank you for this one. Well done!
I'm a nurse. In nursing school, we had to do clinical rotations in all areas of the hospital and I really did not like ER simply because you never knew what you were gonna get. This is an excellent example of that.
@@mikedineen7857 Yeah, I know there is that aspect in any part of the hospital, but it is far worse in ER, where everyone goes before they're sorted out to various floors and specialties. Most of my work so far has been on a Cardiac/Trauma critical care floor.
Different people are good at different things. It's best for each person to be in the area they're most suited to, no matter where that is. We're better off as a community that way. Good for you for recognizing that. 🙂👍
@@matthewmillar3804 I spent 20 years of my 40 plus career as a critical care float nurse. ED, ICU and CCU. I loved it because I didn’t have to put up with the petty people every day
Amazing story. Really makes one realize how much chemistry is a part of our existence, and how much we still have to learn to truly understand the full implications of that.
@@Pete007 No, I don't believe in any gods. Abiogenesis is a complex and ongoing thesis and my degree is not in that science so obviously I don't have my OWN theory. lol
I'm a nurse with 13 years experience and my wife and I have been watching your channel for years.. this is one of your best and definitely "strange, dark, and mysterious!".. we absolutely LOVED IT. Please keep doing what you do, you're such a raconteur, over 7M subscribers should be proof in the pudding, and BTW, thank you for your service! 🇺🇲
Raconteur I’m have to translate that one to bad TH-cam doesn’t respond to the highlighting and dictionary feature, My wife’s been battling it for years. May the Uncreated grace and energies of the triune God heal and protect his people. And grant us good end and firm resolve before his fearful judgement seat.
What a wild crazy story. I’m a retired RN, have worked Trauma, ER, and it is a crap shoot when a patient comes in. Admin doesn’t have a clue. Healthcare workers are not paid enough to deal with what they deal with.
Anyone else literally watch him tell the story as well as listening? Lol I would love to sit around a campfire and listen to him tell stories! Thanks for all your hard work Mr. Ballen!
Absolutely. That's why I prefer his videos to his podcasts. It's more personal and I love the animation and hand gestures and how into he gets. It's way better than just hearing him
"When people told themselves their past with stories, explained their present with stories, foretold the future with stories, the best place by the fire was kept for... The Storyteller." --- John Hurt as The Storyteller
I'd never heard this story before. Wow, what crazy sequence of events. So sad that the lady's cancer was missed earlier and that everyone had to go through all of this suffering.
I remember it in the news, I lived in CA at the time, but I never found out the reason. I was thinking it had to be an unintended chemical reaction to form crystals in blood, maybe agriculture industry, but I never imagined anything like accidentally electrochemically manufacturing nerve gas inside of a human body with hardware store ingredients.
I love the way you explain things (like the way doctors restart a patient’s heart) without ever seeming like you’re condescending for us not knowing that…. I don’t know. Excellent work thanks Mr. Ballen!
@@MrBallen hey is there someone going around using your name on telegram saying to visit them to get a prize or something? I received a comment like that. Not sure if it's a scam or you
@@mmdehnmm I notice it on some of the people I follow seems like bot accounts because they all say similar things saying you won a prize they use similar names and pictures to lie to you
I remember this story very well when it happened. You are the first person to explain the story and sequence of events so adequately. If the hospital was the cause, this would have happened before or even after this incident. My condolences to Gloria’s family and I wish the doctor well. I do not feel this is anyone’s fault. It was a tragic set of circumstances.
It was Gloria fault for using something she should not have been using and because of this her family should not have gotten any money. That said, I can imagine that she was trying everything possible to make her cancer go away. The money should've gone to Julie.
I had to listen twice to digest how all this happened … it was unbelievable, yet so fascinating to learn how very innocent substances in combination could become deadly.
It's a crazy story, probably only happened that one time. Such spesific things had to happen. But from what I remember, it wasn't the temperature in the er that caused the crystallization, it was the pressure change. The nurse used a vacutainer to draw blood, which caused the phase shift, making the toxin airborne.
Chemistry is far from being as well understood in a practical and immediate manner. It's also incredibly difficult to remember all those things when in the midst of delivering trauma care to someone in such critical condition. Additionally, such things are rarely known by medical staff because the likelihood of encountering it is so infinitesimal as to be virtually nonexistent. I remember hearing about this when it happened as it made national news as I was, at the time, a nurse. I recall being completely perplexed at how something like that could happen. Several other colleagues and I would end up following the case and we were all dumbfounded at the conclusion. None of us, nurses and doctors, EMTs and nurse techs were all shocked and realized that none of us were completely aware of how many possible things can trigger changes in chemical compositions inside and outside the body. We knew a lot of things however, there are so many innocuous things that can possibly be interacted with by a human being that can be altered into something else toxic that there is really no way to be either fully knowledgeable or mindful of in a trauma setting. You would be amazed at how simple things can become deadly with a simple addition or subtraction of something equally simple and relatively harmless. John did an amazing job telling this story and I'm very grateful he did.
@@VikingTeddy Yes, I had to rewind, too. And first, the topical DMSO product changed into a new chemical when she was administered oxygen for breathing issues, and next the electroshocks for her heart activated the new chemical into basically nerve gas. In her warm body, the nerve gas was stable but when her blood was drawn in a 66 degree room, it became unstable and starting wafting out. Gases are so creepy because they go through walls and glass, like super helium.
my aunt is one who like to take "all natural" vitamins and herbs to heal herself. But just can't get it thru her head that just because it's "all natural" doesn't mean it's still not a medication and that there are somethings you just can't mix together. and i keep trying to explain that to her everytime she calls me when she has taken some cocktail that she has created and ends up feeling worse. I just tell her that's bc you can't mix XYZ with ABC and if you keep doing this you're going to accidently kill yourself!!!
@@marytramp5678 I have a friend like your aunt, and it terrifies me because she takes St John's Wort and Ginko... which are known to interfere with anesthesia! If she has an accident and needs sedation she's doomed!
I've also heard this story countless times but never with such detail and in a way that portrays Gloria as a sick patient and not just some deadly mystery. Love it!
Even though, there was nothing funny about this situation, the way Ballen described it, a living gas canister I couldn't help but, lol. Even when Ballen said, bodies started thumping on the floor, (the medical staff) I couldn't help but howl with laughter. On a serious note, at least none of the hospital staff died.
@@kevinmalone3210 Shit happens hey.. like, it's death.. pretty common and no matter how you look at it, you aint getting out alive in the long run, we all go to that great gig in the sky, i often find myself laughing watching these, coffeehouse crime and diretrip. i watch Donut Operator just to laugh at idiots being shot dead, it doesn't mean that you don't acknowledge someone died and someone else had loss, it just means you're like any other human, none of us really give a shit what the next person is doing, we just like the outrage.
As others have said, I've heard this story many times and this was the first version that has actually personified Gloria. Her death was so unusual, but before that she was a young mom with kids who did everything she could to stay alive. She was so much more than her last 30 minutes. Thanks for making content that goes beyond the sensationalism! Also, as a former (Quincy!) paramedic and current ER nurse, I hope if I ever encounter a wild and mysterious situation like this you narrate the story 🤣
Actually, this is sensationalism. You are being told a story by a person who does not or could not know this information. The reason why the victims, in most of these cases, are polished to a shine, is it makes what happened to them, or others, better. Hence, sensationalism. sen·sa·tion·al·ism NOUN (especially in journalism) the use of exciting or shocking stories or language at the expense of accuracy, in order to provoke public interest or excitement He is intentionally making the victims look as imaculate as possible using information of what most people would like to hear about a victim. To make it oh so much more tragic, so...exciting of a story. Don't get me wrong, I love MrBallen and this his channel is phenomical. Part of what makes it compelling is the way he tells the story. But factual? No. The only things factual are usually the peoples names, the literal case of what happened, and anything afterwards he mentions related to the case. Everything else, from how much so and so is caring, and kind, and the way he makes it seem like Gloria was doing it for the kids, was this great mom, etc. He doesn't know that. It just makes the story...more tragic, i.e. sensationalism. So, you haven't been watching any content that goes "above" sensationalism.
Fascinating and tragic story, very well told by MrB. My heart goes out to all those affected. I love the way that California's Dept of Human and Health Services just put this down to "mass sociogenic illness", which seems to be a clever way for people with PhDs to say "I don't know". What an insult to all the doctors and nurses in the hospital who fell ill that day to be told "It was all in your mind". Glad that some real scientists actually did some work and found the true cause of this tragic event.
It happens so often. Hospitals can be terrifying place sometimes. I just did a true crime story of a doctor tainting peoples IVs causing them severe heart attacks!
I've heard those story many times. as many comments have said, Gloria is always referred to as the "Toxic Lady," and the explanation is always omitted, so this is the first time I'm hearing it! this is part of the reason I love this channel.
Mrballen, I saw the announcement of this and I always look forward to your releases. As one veteran to another thank you for what you do and taking your time to put these video together! You do an amazing job. Your courage and persistent to push forward is inspirational. I myself was wounded in Afghanistan by an IED also and felt into depression for a while but I got back up. A few months ago I decided to start my own true crime channel and I find it interesting and it keeps the mind busy. Again thank you for being an inspiration to some of us.
My dad was proscribed DMSO for his terminal colon cancer by a quack doctor. I was just a teenager. I remember how horrible he smelled when we got in the car with him. This bizarre episode brings back strange memories. This story is absolutely truthful, thanks for posting.
calling someone a quack doctor for prescribing dmso shows your ignorant as a stump, millions of people use dmso. most people who have cancer use alternative health.
I dunno DMSO works well for me with my interstitial cystitis, and it works amazingly. But, installed into the bladder it’s been proven safe. It’s a miracle for me. But, creeps me out what happened to this woman.
Used DMSO as a medicinal for my horse, with DMSO, you have to be Extremely careful, as your skin MUST be ultra clean with no chemical, medicinal or whatnot on it, as DMSO will take whatever is on your skin and absorb it into the body, hence great care is needed for its use.
I've been watching this channel for around 3yrs. or so and knew right away it was going to blow-up. I'd been introduced to Mr.Allen professionally about 6yrs. ago and knew right away there was something special about him. Keep up the good work my man,there's still so many rungs on the ladder to climb. Love & Respect -D
I know! It's just such a mystery and it's so sad. People want to have someone to blame when someone passes away but yeah the whole Mass hysteria thing has never set right with me.
@@proudfatherofadeadweightso5715 I think he means there's a higher ratio of nurses to doctors, and more female nurses than male (i could be wrong). I don't agree with what he's saying, just trying to find the point
Heard this story on Buzzfeed Unsolved, but you just made it seem more human, whereas there they just reported completely on the case, you took the time to talk about her as a person and go into more detail as to why what happened to her might've happened and that's why I love how you cover such topics!
It's so crazy how many previously unsolved stories have been figured out in the last couple years; after hearing this story so many times with no resolution it's so cool to hear a believable and probable answer and to hear more about Gloria, not just the circumstances of her death.
Agree! I was even a little hesitant to listen to it again because of hearing it so many times and then I was so excited when there were new developments!
@@crazysilly2914 exactly. The autopsies were done on a rotation wearing full hazmat suits, so they were only exposed for very short periods of time. The chemical equations were done to show the production of the nerve gas, and she was later buried in a lead lined coffin because of the biohazard.
Back when 60 Minutes first covered this with Mike Wallace, in that segment Mike also interviewed a scientist from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory a federal research facility in Livermore, California. He also explained the chemical reactions going on in Gloria's body and this resulted in DMSO2 (possibly DMSO4). Nerve agent basically. Facinating story and sad too. R.I.P Gloria Cecilia Ramirez (January 11, 1963 - February 19, 1994).
I worked at Riverside General Hospital during this time period. I was not there but remember how crazy it all was. I knew some of the doctors involved. Great job, MrBallen. You really made Gloria a person and not just a mysterious case.
@@skypilot23 I've (somewhat regrettably) have seen videos of the effects of nerve gas on people, and it's completely terrifying. I think most countries have agreed that the use of nerve gas is inhumane and breaks the rules of engagement, even during war times.
I was going to just ask this in the comments but since you maybe have a little more knowledge than the general public I'll ask here - why did the hospital settle money on this woman's family? 🤨. That sounds a little callous and I don't mean it to be, seems like it was mostly just a horrible string of ill luck that led to a completely unforeseeable outcome, but it was unforeseeable and some of the woman's own actions purportedly led to it. I wouldn't blame the woman for the outcome but neither would I think the hospital had any culpability in just doing their job.
Mr. Ballen, you are by far the BEST storyteller in the world!!! I find myself unable to look away during each episode!! Thank you, sir, for sharing your superpower with all of us. We love & appreciate you!!!❤️
I have hear Gloria story few times, it is kinda rough that after you have perished you get nickname "Toxic Lady", thank you for humanizing her and for the lovely storyteller format
I hadn't either but looking at the comments this was the best. Its so sad. I commented why or what was the blood draw results. Two ppl saw the strange crystals and no one gave the results of it.
For years I wondered if anyone ever found figured out what caused the incident in the trauma room. Nice to hear an answer and hear Gloria's story before that day. Definitely the best storyteller I've listened to.
I still find it odd that drawing blood into a syringe, which is basically enclosed, would spread enough gas into the hospital to cause 23 new patients.
@@rwatson2609 probably because there was now an open wound, since they have to draw blood somehow. The gasses created would have to escape the blood, and spread in the air.
@@jellypeaches26 Maybe so. I guess there must have been some reason that people started dropping at that very moment. I do find that the storyteller becomes paramount to our understanding of what really happened since withholding some information can change the conclusion that we all might reach.
I'm glad to have this cleared up. Remember hearing about this lady ages ago, but with the reason for the toxic outbreak around her being unknown, it was presented almost like some supernatural event.
In fairness to anyone trying to make sense of this the circumstances are just so bizarre you would be forgiven for thinking something oogy boogy like was going on.
This story, in isolation, is terrifying but what it makes me think about most is that at a point in history people willingly dropped this on people in a warzone. Utterly chilling.
I remember that, in the 80s, DMSO was a huge thing. It was being hyped as the miracle cure "they" didn't want you to have, and people were using it for just about every ailment you could think of. Frightening to think how often Gloria's scenario could've played out.
Dimethyl Sulfide is not really dangerous for the most part, in fact it is still widely used commercially. Just an extremely rare and unfortunate series of chemical reactions
Yeah, DMSO isn't dangerous. It's being used regularly by thousands of Drs to this day. Any medical supply catalog has it. Funny how many patients used DMSO, were on oxygen tanks and were getting electrolysis treatments twice a week. Yet nothing happened. No, this story is true, but the explanation is nonsense. Notice how so much detail was given, yet no explanation of what these mysterious chemical reactions were. I have 2 chemists I talk to regularly, they both started laughing about that.
Lots of things can have beneficial effects but still have harmful side-effects. Those things are usually regulated for safety. "Dietary supplements" aren't really regulated with these side-effects in mind, so you get problems. DMSO is no different. Yes, lots of people have used it "successfully", but there have also been a number of cases where that use became dangerous and even deadly.
@@yootoobsuks4210 Actually, dietary supplements aren't regulated *at all.* The FDA is trying to get oversight but has so far failed. But this wasn't a dietary supplement; it was a cream she rubbed on her skin.
It does work, apparently, but because its not an official med, it sometimes gets mixed up as body lotion, so your family may not be aware you're self-medicating. ALL substances need to seen as affecting your body. Your food, your cleansing products..they affect you and can cause interactions. I just had to look up how white grapefruit juice can change your medication reaction, its crazy everything we don't know.
I’ve heard this story many times, THIS was the first time I really understood what happened. Thank you for that. I also love that you are very clearly, tactically mapping out how things are in relation to each other, it helps me so much when I can easily follow your eyes and hands for that extra information.
I am a retired nurse. This video is the kind of medical mystery I love! This fantastic story was made even better because you are an excellent storyteller. There are so many baffling diseases and facts about the human body that doctors and scientists have not discovered. One newly discovered organ is the mesentery which was previously thought to belong only to the digestive system. The organ is a double fold of peritoneum - the lining of the abdominal cavity - that holds our intestine to the wall of our abdomen. Our skin used to be considered the largest organ in the body. The mesentery now has that honor. Two Oncologists in Amsterdam also recently discovered the tubarial glands while testing patients and corpses with PET and CT scans. The team has dubbed the glands “tubarial glands” for their location within the body. They’re about the same size as the body’s three main salivary glands. Still, they sit on either side of the nasopharynx, which connects the nasal passages to the rest of the human body’s respiratory system. Most salivary and mucous glands within the nasopharynx are microscopic. No one knows the function of the appendix, but many Drs think it may be vestigial. Who knows what will be discovered next about the human body? Sources: USA Today and Extremetech
I wonder whether that newly discovered mesentery is the source of fibromyalgia which causes great misery but some people think is imaginary because the cause/source eludes detection.
That's so fascinating! I'm not in the medical profession, but human anatomy and medicine in general is something I have always enjoyed learning about. Thank you for sharing that!
this story has been told hundreds, if not thousands of times on a wide number of channels, articles, research, etc. It's not exactly new. There are literally hundreds of comments talking about how often others have heard this exact same story over the last 30 years.
@@jessicahannah2522 I mean that’s great but I’ve never heard it. But I also don’t watch a ton of TH-camrs or the news for that matter. I was giving my fave TH-camr a compliment, for sharing what he does and in such a fantastic way. He’s my favorite storyteller and I could listen to a tale as old as time coming from him and still be drawn in and excited to hear it.
Excellent explaining of this unbelievably horrible sequence of events. My dear Mom passed from colon cancer in 2021. With Covid raging and blocking us from seeing her that whole last year, I'm so grateful that something like this didn't make it even worse. Thanks MrB🙏💔
I knew about this story when it happened and, at the time, I was working as a nurse. To say we were mind-blown at the time would be a gross understatement. Several of my colleagues and I followed the case and were dumbfounded at the conclusion. Honestly, there is no way to be mindful of such a thing when its probability of occurring is so exceptionally remote. It's even harder to be mindful of it when not all the information is present and one is delivering critical trauma care. The way you told the story is the best I've heard to date and made me feel as if I were there at the time. I also love the way you humanized Gloria and Julie. I think it brings home to listeners and viewers how real and terrible it was for them to endure everything they were enduring/have endured. May Gloria rest in peace and may Julie do good medicine until the day she retires. Thank you again, John!
I remember this too! The poor woman died, yet she was vilified in the California papers and newscasts. It was disgusting. When DMSO was linked to the toxic event, I was shocked. In 1982 my best friend had been using DMSO for a gymnastics related knee injury and I thought it had later been banned.
Love how Mr. Ballen able to make a clear and obvious point about the facts. Been listening for lots of versions of this story but never got the chance to hear it in a way like Mr. Ballen did. Kudos!!
I absolutely ❤the fact that Ballen can take a story I’ve heard previously & present it in such a unique way-it’s like hearing it for the 1st x! His writers are gold!
Literally never heard this story before. The odds of those events happening in the right way and in the right order to produce a nerve gas in Gloria’s blood must be astronomical. Very well conveyed again Mr Ballen, thanks so much. RIP Gloria and best wishes to Julie x
Ty for this clarification on Gloria’s story . I’ve heard this story a few times but never fully detailed like this . Now I can understand it and makes sense ty .
I’ve heard this story so many times now , but you told it in such a way that I understand it better now , you added so much more to her story you made her a real person not just an oddity, thank you so much 😊
Like a lot of other commenters, this is the first time I've heard someone humanize this poor woman... She had a life before she became the toxic woman... I'm sure her spirit appreciates reclaiming her humanity through your telling of her story.
@@anadubar4819 I beg to differ. She used DSMO as many people do. She had no idea that receiving oxygen and then shock paddles would turn her into a toxic person. Many people to this day use and swear by dsmo. Maybe you should look into it before claiming this woman was irresponsible. Not to mention she was being told she was going to die.... and many people will try alternative therapies to better their health. I see nothing wrong with her using dsmo.... I've looked into it myself.
@@anadubar4819 Howabout the hospital being irresponsible for NOT catching the cancer the 1st time she went to the hospital?? Had they caught it, she wouldn't have had to try something as extreme as alternate treatments and this would never have happened. Think before you spout off your hate of anyone but yourself
John just wanted to let you know your content always helps me get through a tough day, I'm in early recovery from opiate addiction and when I feel like using I put on one of your vids and it never fails to take my mind off the negative. Thank you for being who you are.
This is exactly why you have to divulge what other medications, both pharmaceuticals or herbal alternative supplements, when you are admitted to any hospital ER or go to any medical clinics for treatment for anything.... This was a horrible mistake on Gloria's part. And if her own family knew about it, they absolutely should have alerted her Dr's immediately 🤦♀️
Grew up in riverside from the time I was born in 91 until 2016. I have never heard this story in my life. The fact that he can find this kind of content truly speaks to his hard work and determination. Thank you for keeping up the great work. Been watching since day 1
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I've listened to Gloria's story maybe 5-6 different times from different content creators. Mr.Ballen is the first person to tell her story in a way that makes her a human as opposed to an anomaly. Gloria was a real person and I'm sure her family would love to hear her story told in a way that makes her human. It makes me proud to be someone who enjoys the strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story format ❤
He does
@UCALUdz-0tblKAIMT_3qtosg shame on YOU, GLORIA WAS DESPERATE NOT TO DIE ! SHAME, SHAME ON YOU ! Do you know KARMA?
Yeah I don’t know how many times I’ve heard this story but his telling is the second one that has told the whole story truthfully
Same.
Well said comment @Lacy Krone. I was thinking the same thing to.
I worked with Julie after this event (I'm a retired RN). I would just like to add, Julie was in top physical shape during all of this. She had no fault in this whatsoever. Just makes me mad that they put that hysteria theory out there. It caused her a lot of mental anguish as well.
Whoever decided to give the go ahead to announce that theory should be ashamed of themselves!
Oh wow, did she ever fully regain her mobility? Felt so bad for her especially when I learnt she was wheelchair bound.
Ur cappin
@@Bandz6x and you're?
Got any proof? Any Tom dick and Harry can say she like that.
Hell I wiped Elton john's ass
As someone who has studied chemistry and work at pharmaceutical lab, this series of events had to be absolutely perfect for that chemical reaction to occur. That’s just amazing.. no wonder why they couldn’t figure it out. It’s sooo astronomically rare.
As a chemist, can you tell me the exact name of the chemical substance that as created that became deadly? I thought he said dimethylsulfate but I cant seem to find anything about it being a nerve gas, only that is is carcinogenic
@@Jaspergap Well, he said they used it in the 1st WW.
By sheer coincidence, the universe put all those exact factors in place at those precise moments. It's inconceivable but it happens.
Still, I can see how use of this remedy can be the issue since the standard medical treatment procedures themselves acted as the catalyst.
In other words, you don't want that chemical involved while you're at risk of having a medical emergency.
@@Jaspergap Dimethyl sulfate was discovered in the early 19th century in an impure form.[3] J. P. Claesson later extensively studied its preparation.[4][5]
It was investigated as a candidate for possible use chemical warfare in World War I[6][7] in 75% to 25% mixture with methyl chlorosulfonate (CH3ClO3S) called "C-stoff" in Germany, or with chlorosulfonic acid called "Rationite" in France.[8]
Dimethyl sulfate is carcinogenic[10] and mutagenic, highly poisonous, corrosive, and environmentally hazardous.[17] It is absorbed through the skin, mucous membranes, and gastrointestinal tract, and can cause a fatal delayed respiratory tract reaction. An ocular reaction is also common. There is no strong odor or immediate irritation to warn of lethal concentration in the air. The LD50 (acute, oral) is 205 mg/kg (rat) and 140 mg/kg (mouse), and LC50 (acute) is 45 ppm / 4 hours (rat).[18]The vapor pressure of 65 Pa[19] is sufficiently large to produce a lethal concentration in air by evaporation at 20 °C. Delayed toxicity allows potentially fatal exposures to occur prior to development of any warning symptoms.[17] S
Soooo the family of the woman with cancer denied everything even when that doctor got sick to the point of her bones starting to rot, and the other woman's family got that much money?? So unfair
Thanks for humanizing her. Many people just call her the Toxic Lady. She had a whole life before her death.
She was kinda toxic tho
@@Keepgoing42 In a literal sense, that is still correct.
Dummys are human. :)
@@Gurupimp10 I was on the verge of commenting about a meme involving "American Psycho" but didn't and now I see that profile picture.
@@Athen239 Hip To Be Square!!
I feel like Julie’s side of the story often goes undernoticed. A young doctor who just happened to be involved in a completely unpredictable accident and suffered severe consequences. It takes “wrong place wrong time” to a whole new scale. And at the end of it all, suffering lasting damage and getting no settlement, she was still able to see the bright side of how it made her a better doctor.
Kafkaesque
It's crazy how this explanation was destroyed in court and the hospital had to pay damages for using cleaning chemicals that poisoned staff. I guess this fantastic story is more entertaining. There is a reason 3 judges and 2 juries called bullshit on it. The hospital had to pay damages for what actually happened.
@@Yourmomshousemyrules Do you have any source for this?
@@Yourmomshousemyrules I call bullshit sorry, they settled which means the only decision made by the judge was whether they agreed to allow it settle.
The hospital never admitted any wrongdoing nor were they found in a court of law to have committed any wrongdoing.
I don’t know how she actually died or whether the explanation given here is true so not arguing that part
@@Yourmomshousemyrules how about you actually prove me wrong because I can read thanks 🤪
My mom survived ovarian cancer only due to her persistence and defiance of doctors. She was suffering severe stomach pain for weeks. We took her to the hospital twice and both times they just told her it was indigestion or constipation. Then one night my mom was curled up in bed writhing in pain. Anyone who knows my mom knows she has a VERY high pain tolerance. She's a tough lady. I had never seen her like that in my entire life. This time in the hospital she told them she's not leaving until they find out what's wrong and she threatened to sue them if something bad happens to her.
Finally, they ran all the expensive tests and scans that they were reluctant to perform, and they found a tumor on her ovary. It had wrapped around her intestine, which was what caused her so much pain as her digestive tract was essentially pinched off by this tumor.
For any ladies reading this, she had a drop in appetite for a couple months before this and dropped weight quickly without exercising. She would eat but then get full very quickly. And obviously the aforementioned stomach pain. My mom said she knew there was something foreign in her body. She couldn't physically feel it with her hands, but it was something she was consciously aware of. You know your body better than anyone else. If you feel something is wrong, don't let doctors turn you away. Trust your instincts. If my mom had not stood firm against the doctors, she would not be here today.
I can’t agree more. In 2020 I had a horrible pain inside a lot and I said to my friend one day “I think my ovarian cysts are back. But in tumor form now.” I went to the hospital the next morning and they found a softball sized tumor on my right ovary. A year prior I had a roughly half dollar sized cysts removed from that same ovary. I just KNEW when I felt that pain, they were back and they were bad.
In modern society, if it’s not easy and profitable no one wants to do it. Applies to most things.
Glad she survived, my daughter was ignored also, she died. Because she was single with no children, they felt a. Lawsuit would not get them enought money. In other words she wasnt worth it to them.
I almost died in 1987 because I was 17 yrs old and nobody wanted to listen to me. They kept saying I was constipated or had a small blockage. Turns out I had a blood clot in my small intestines and by the time I went into shock twice, they finally decided to operate and find out what was wrong. 6 1/2 feet of my small intestines had gangrened, I had an infection in my blood, and ended up being in the hospital for 2 months to get well. Absolutely listen to your body and insist on them doing something!
so glad your mother was able to make them listen. Women's pain is more often dismissed by doctors, sad but true.
Really messed up that Gloria’s body basically poisoned all those medical workers & Gloria’s family got 800k out of it while the Doctor who has all those health issues now got her case dismissed. Injustice.
Gloria family probably wanted money from the event. it was inevitable she would die. emergency cases for cancer patients is never a good news.
Its so horrible
Terrible
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Gloria’s autopsied, and no toxins were found.
That’s crazy, Julie should’ve been compensated more than anyone.
@henrysummers8792 - Crazy alright. Three autopsies confirm Gloria's tragic death as cancer related failure of her vital organs. The hospital was also investigated multiple times with a clean slate.
If Gloria's family is so adamant that she wasn't taking DMOS, what is the explanation for the white crystals in her blood sample? Why was her skin greasy? Why did she emit a garlic odour?
The science and evidence is pretty clear - but the family still gets $800,000...?
And Julie gets nothing...? No less a tragic story, but the outcome should be the other way around.
@@flora7447 Julia is the Nurse.
Julia should’ve sued the makers of that chemical as well as the other’s who suffered as it was proven bad. They should have stopped making it.
@@flora7447 That was Gloria. Get the names right. You typed all that for NOTHING🙄
Agreed.
The doctor who said she became a better doctor after that ordeal, those are always the best doctors. They're the best because they know what it's like to have their life drastically effected by an illness. Good to hear that she survived.
I could have Sworn he said Julie was the Attending Nurse?? No?
She was an attending physician.
affected*
I know I was a medical assistant. I lost my parents young. My mother passed, and the circumstances are what made me always bring family concerns to Dr's attention. Saved more than one patient because of it.
It is a terrible shame that any physician hast to get ill to be a good doctor.
Thanks for taking the time to talk about Gloria as a person. This story is talked about frequently in the mystery community, but this is the first time I've heard her described in a humanizing manner.
The mystery is that the doctors overlooked Gloria's cancer to begin with. In the '80's, the locals in Mexico accused a major US corporation of stealing the fresh water supply near their factory. That was America's way of telling Mexicans and other Latinos to drop dead. Gloria was white-looking but apparently that still didn't help. Maybe it deflected overt racism but her medical staff knew her last name.
I'm not making this stuff up. During the covid-19 pandemic, a white nurse named Nicole Sirotek was assigned to a New York City hospital. The declared on TH-cam that the doctors were routinely, knowingly misdiagnosing black and Latino patients with coronavirus and summarily murdering them in various experimental ways. There's also a healthy illegal but sanctioned slave trade developing across the Mexican border.
I had no idea that she had children. I love that he told her story. RIP Gloria.
Yeah everyone else focuses on the medical details and made her feel like just a vessel for tragedy.
I'm in England, and have never heard of this incident.... TY again to Mr Ballen
I was in the ER at Riverside General the night this happened. I worked for Goodhew Ambulance and was sitting on the rear bumper of my Ambulance when people came running out. I had just started my career in EMS, this was my hometown so its hard to forget.
Poor Gloria... I feel so bad for her, her boyfriend, and her children. That being said, the lawsuit settlement was so unjust in my personal opinion. The hospital paid nearly one million dollars to her family despite forensic scientists undoubtedly proving the freak series of events, yet they dismissed their own nurse who was actively trying to save Gloria's life.
I agree. The hospital was foolish to settle, especially when they proved multiple times there was no leak or causation on their part. Sad situation all around
Right!
Of course the family would still sue no matter what type of concrete evidence there is.. its all about MONEY...
If anyone deserves to get that "Settlement money" its Dr. Julie.. the family shouldve emphatize and given that Money to Dr. Julie because she's the most affected of this incident. Mrs. Gloria died because of her cancer, Dr. Julie got poisoned because of some unfortunate circumstances
Exactly! Hospital should have just gone to court. They would have won with all the proofs.
I can’t get over the family denying it. Like ok you explain it then.
This is truly the most INCREDIBLE series' of events to occur, and to have someone bright enough to put the pieces together is just as impressive.
bro what are the odds... i swear this shit gatta be made up..
@@phenomenalfx7134 I've noticed a strange pattern in my half century here. The weirdest and seemingly least probable sequence of events somehow find a way to come together, almost as if by some random invisible intelligent design. The more perceivably impossible certain sets of contributing factors become, the more probable certain outcomes become.
I believe it's these seemingly intelligent, cohesive and impossible patterns that lead every culture on earth today, as well as historically, to have mythology and religions based upon the concept of an omniscient super intelligent god-like entity existing beyond our tangible senses. Even though it could actually be a scientifically explainable multi-dimensional phenomenon that our science hasn't evolved to understand yet.. and possibly never will.
@@joalyincontroly4379 100%
@@phenomenalfx7134 The physician was still alive to tell the experience of what they found odd with the patient. Garlic smell, greasy body and crystals on blood. A scientist can piece up these essential information to conclude what happened if provided these information and fortunately relevent people were alive and available to narrative these info to the investigating scientists. Heck I am a chemistry graduatte and listening to the story initially I could have told some internal chemical reaction must have taken place as its common in terminal patients to go for unreliable alternates
@@joalyincontroly4379 easy for you to say
I was born in the elevator of that hospital as my mom was being rushed to a surgical suite. A doctor who just happened to be in the car with us saved my little blue self from death by breathing life back into me. I’m sorry to hear this tragic bit of history that took place in the very hospital where me and all my siblings came into the world..
Not every life even needs to be shared on TH-cam comments
@@thomasgriffin2326 Nobody asked you.
@@lucasfraczek4320 exactly. Dudes just being a jerk.
@@lucasfraczek4320 no one asked about her life story either 🤷♂️
@@thomasgriffin2326 Still can't find anyone who asked you.
The best telling of this tragedy, I've ever heard. Such grace and respect
Finally, the best version of the Riverside hospital story. It's so good to hear him giving Gloria the respect she deserves as a human being, even though I knew before he said it, I still felt my heart drop when he discussed her passing.
Thus and the Bedtime Stories are my absolute favourite tellings of this bizarre story!
I’ve heard this story multiple times throughout the year but you are by far the best narrator of it. Including adding details that may seem small but add to the story to make it feel whole and as though we were there when it happens. I’ve noticed a few times that you upload stories that I already know about but I am always quick to watch them anyways because of your talent and the work you put in to storytelling - it’s like hearing them for the first time. Amazing work.
Right?! I've heard this case before but it's always told so blase and matter of factly. He makes it so much more interesting and dramatic its like hearing it for the first time. Plus, the other accounts don't mention that Gloria had a UTI, nor do any of them mention the crap shoot excuse of everyone faking being sick.
My 1st time hearing this sad story... We just don't knw what We Do... who'd thought the air we breathe would react that way... WOW 😳
Peace ✌️🕊️
You know what, you're right. I've seen this story many many times, over the years, and, I almost didn't recognize it, knowing what was going to happen
How many times can you people post the exact same comment? You're like a bunch of parrots.
Agreed! Mr B explained things much better than the other TH-cam vids. GJ Mr Ballen!
Rest in peace Gloria. I'm glad Julia recovered. this was definitely strange thanks Mr Ballen!
@Don't Read My Profile Photo what!?!?!?
Having known a good friend of Julies', It is a miracle she was able to practice medicine again. A tribute to her dedication and passion to heal.
As a nurse, I appreciate you much research you put into this! I’ve heard this story a few times and you make her a PERSON - not a toxic “thing”. New follower!
How many comments did you read before you wrote yours? 💤💤
@@pleonexia4772
Just because you have never heard the story of this woman doesn't mean many other people haven't either. This story has been told many many times by many content creators and I've heard a few of them myself. Most of them always make her out to be some biological killing weapon. It was nice to hear this story told as it should have always been told!!
You think way too much of yourself I think.
You're going to love Mr Ballen's content because that's what I appreciate the most about him too - that he doesn't dehumanise the people he talks about for clicks.
Well, her stupidity made her toxic. The use of hardware store DMSO gel was fairly idiotic.
@@quicksnipes2393cry about it
Overian and Cervical Cancer are both hard to detect. If you have any odd symptoms or fresh blood go to your doctor immediately. I got Overian cancer at 25 and damn near caught it too late. I had a full hysterectomy at 25, that was tough to deal with mentally and emotionally but I'm still here for my 2 kids.
Stories backed up by medical studies and scientific facts are so stimulating. You can make a 20+ minute video seem like only a moment has passed with how you hold my attention
Ikr
Jimmy Dean ..same here, he had me hanging on every word. He does a great job.
Because it’s real life. You are actually learning something. Any story can entertain, but not every story can teach. With so many other and arguably more engaging ways to be entertained (TV, books, friends, games, hobbies) in the modern world, education becomes more valuable and, ironically, entertaining.
One of the best things in TH-cam is to accidentally forget about a channel like Mr Ballin and come back after a few months to non-stop amazing content!
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Yup used to watch his shorts like two years ago but haven't seen anything for about a year and this randomly showed up on my recommended
Right - I thought he had switched over completely to that podcast thing but I just binged 3 months of strange and mysterious and it's perfect for today because the antibiotics I took for a bacteria infection in my sinuses gave me the worst and I mean the worst allergies- I'm so uncomfortable and trying to keep my mind off it all. So glad I get to binge!
For real, I recently wanted to watch his videos, but realized quickly that I forgot his name. I spent like 30 minutes looking up things like "creepy story videos" and "Unsettling stories" just to try and generally look for his channel. So glad I found it eventually. Turns out I was subscribed the whole time XD
You're so absolutely right. Forgetting these stories is always a treat that allows one to shake the dismal brutality of reality for even a single moment over in a New York millisecond.
Remembering the channel, watching his videos, and having to wait for it to happen again is only bad after you reach a certain threshold of the strangely fucked up, mysteriously fucked up, and dark fuckings up delivered in story form, at which point afterward it is simply a waiting game where the only cheat codes either come in bottles or tablet form.
Interesting that Gloria's family was paid by the hospital but the Dr wasn't. Especially when you take into account that Gloria,'s (while inadvertently), actions caused it all and the Dr was just trying to save her life.
total bs imo
sounds exactly like the most American kinda thing to happen
What happens when you sign a contract. They probably said she wasn't using correct PPE or some dumb shit.
exactly and she was probably left with tons of medical bills, yet Glorias family gets the money instead of her
It’s called malpractice…
I was a nurse for 30 years and found this case very interesting. Before I retired, we were taught to list all of the patients meds, including,home remedies, over the counter medications, and granny’s cure for everything! You just never know how these drugs will interact with treatments. I was a Nurse Anesthetist and many of the anesthetic drugs can be quite dangerous when mixed with other chemicals. Always list everything you ingest regardless of how insignificant you think it is!
Yes! That med reconciliation is super important
and not only what you ingest but what you put on your skin
I take a lot of work out supplements. Creatine, citruline, red beet root extract, mucuna powder, cod liver oil, stinging nettle. After reading your comment if it ever comes up I will report what I take.
Even some foods can interact bad, like grapefruit I believe can be bad with some meds.
The body is a complex system.simple solutions rarely work
MrBallen might be the only channel where I'll watch a story even if I've heard it before somewhere else. Elite storyteller!
From all the times I’ve seen this story, I’ve never heard that she had cancer, or that her children were under the age of 13. Thank you for properly telling her story
I’ve heard versions of the story before but always quickly summed up with “a strange lady that oozed some toxic substance and it was never found out what it was.” Thank you so much for explaining not only who she was, that she was critically ill and still found time to be there for her kids even though she must’ve been in a lot of pain and discomfort, and thank you very much for clearing up what has been a decades long mystery. It’s always amazing to me how thoroughly you must research everything you tell us. Thanks again for being such a great storyteller.
same here
Me three❤❤😊
She injured other people though
Same here. I always heard that she was somehow radioactive and killed several members of the hospital staff unless that's another situation I'm confusing with each other
This is so sad. Julie, of all people, should have gotten a pay out. She never did anything but her job.
Nevertheless, her determination to continue pursuing her career and helping people is so lovely!
She was the one who should have been given the money, not the family, since it was Gloria who caused this, even though she absolutely couldn't have foreseen such an outcome.
Completely agree
It's rather unethical that Gloria Ramirez's family got a pay-out. It doesn't appear that the hospital is at all liable for her death.
Agree
@@irena4545 But there was that point that Gloria has actually gone into that hospital a few years earlier with symptoms and signs that she likely had cancer.But the doctors missed it.They likely could have saved Gloria earlier.
Ya know, great story telling aside, its a shame for the kids to lose their mom so young, only to relive it in all kinds of youtube videos calling her the 'toxic lady' so im glad you showed them some respect in not naming the video something to that effect. You actually spoke of her like a human being, not a science experiment. And out of all the videos ive seen that mention her and the mystery surrounding what happened with her, youve been the first and only person to clearly explain what happened to her and the nurses who tried to help her. Another fantastic video, sir!
чєα, pσσr wσmαn wαѕ juѕt dσíng hєr вєѕt tσ ѕurvívє hєr íllnєѕѕ ... 😔
Idk if we’re looking at the same video
I remember from an inorganic chemistry class learning that DMSO is also a very good solvent and is notoriously difficult to be shielded against (meaning it can pass through most materials easily). It can also dissolve many different compounds much more efficiently than water. Our lecturer warned us that although DMSO itself isnt dangerous for you, it's a very good carrier for anything dissolved in it to be abosrbed very fast into your body. He told us about this one case where a women was working with a dangerous organometallic chemical which normally can't pass through your skin on it's own, but the lab used DMSO to dissovle the organometal. One tiny drop of the mixture fell on the women's gloved hands and she immediately took off the gloves and washed her hands. However she still died from organometal poisoning. So when using DMSO it's very important to make sure nothing gets dissolved in it that you dont want absorbed into your body accidentaly, or at least make sure you never touch it in case it contaminated.
True ..
Good to know !!!
We use DMSO when working with horses with swelling to helping reduce the inflammation quickly. I’ve used it myself with absorbing veterinary gel. Worked great.
Cervical cancer is so devastating. 😞 It’s so sad hers was missed - get your pap smears!
Aren’t you the queef doctor?
You’re the best Mama.
I hate being a woman sometimes but then I remind myself that men are the first to be drafted for war so it's not so bad.
Welcome to the dark side MDJ
@@enochia Prostate cancer and shaving are the worst two things, oh and on average we die younger!
I wanna thank Mr Ballen so much because I was recently paralyzed from the waist down and was told I wouldnt walk again. Obviously this sent me into a deep depression but I started watching your videos and it weirdly helped me some how not just give up and to really start working hard to prove the Dr's wrong and be able to walk again I can say I'm not walking any marathons and I kinda resemble a newborn baby giraffe when I do walk but I'll take it lol. But what I'm trying to say Is thanks for what you do it helped me through the toughest time of my life God bless you and yours brother !!!
Many have spoken how this woman was not treated as a person in previous accounts. You have the ability to look at everybody you speak about and treat each of them with respect and understanding. That's rare. And we are all a mixture. No one is their worst day or their best. I am an RN and though very sad this is fascinating.
Hang in there my friend. Keep kicking ass.
That's awesome. I can't understand why doctors would say something like that to a patient. "You will never walk again" are such defeating words coming from a professional. They should always urge their patients to try.
You go! Prove those doctors wrong!! That's fantastic.
Congratulations on your hard work!! I know it’s not always easy, but you seem to have the will to help yourself!! You’re an inspiration and I applaud you!!
Being in the USAF and stationed in the middle of absolutely nowhere for 3 years, I gotta say that this man has single-handedly made this a whole lot better. There's no better way than to spend my long hours of work listening and watching your videos. The undisputed king of spooky storytelling. MrBallen, calling you the GOAT would only serve to undermine you lol hope this new year treats you and your family well!
Shouldn't you be working rather than watching his videos?
@@listey Shouldnt you mind your own business?
Admits to world he's wasting our hard earned tax payer money
Happy New Year! Thank you for your service, I hope you guys come home soon!
@@dougr8646 you guys think you work 24/7 in the military? no, you still get days off, retards
I was a vet tech for a decade in the early 2000s. We used DMSO regularly to treat our major surgery patients. We wore gloves but because our patients were rarely still, our arms were often smeared with the substance. We always knew because we immediately tasted garlic. But we never had any exposures this severe.
To add a note, while Gloria's family does not believe Gloria used DMSO..that's quite possible as far as doing it deliberately is concerned..and it could still have happened anyway. DMSO was also used as an attempted delivery method for date rape drugs, and just to take 'drugs' and deliver the active parts of herbal remides. I recall this as a thing of some controversy as it may or may not work that way depending on what you are trying...but people did try and the people who do /that/ kind of thing are the same kinds of people who might say, replace the contents of your usual lotion with DMSO +their favorite drug or other thing. She may not have known whatsoever at all that this was the case.
For it to become Dimethyl Sulfide though. That's horrifying chemistry.
I’ve heard this story so many times…BUT when Mr B tells it, it just hits different. The context, the research he does and the humanising manner he talks about victims and the people involved is top-notch. 👌🏻
😂😂 I thought it was just me. I’ve heard some iteration of this story, maybe about three times before. Yet, somehow this was like hearing it for the first time, but better. I was listening with my headphones, but every time he said someone dropped, I would gasp and say out loud “oh my God.” 😱 My husband came running in thinking something was wrong. I couldn’t help it, it was like I was there, watching the whole thing! That man can tell a good story, if nothing else.
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Wait, I'm condused. Did MrBallen already do this video before. I remember he did a video like this, but this one as more detail than the last one he did.
Yup
That's the difference between being genuine vs just easy clicks with a title that makes the subject feel like a weirdo that needs to be poked at with a stick.
You sound like a bot
Gloria has a beautiful smile, RIP. Anyone can tell a great story, but nobody can connect to the audience like MrBallen.
The format of this channel is so comforting. It's basically a son telling his mother a story that he's researched extremely thoroughly. It's like he was there each time. Very thankful for your content.
On one hand, "comforting" seems like an odd choice of descriptor to associate with this channel, given how often the content is of a morbid nature. On the other hand, you did make a point to single out the storytelling format, not the topics. And even if you hadn't, it's true that a MrBallen upload gives me the same feeling as comfort food would induce.
Its not researched thourougly. She died because there was crystal meth chemicals in the hospital
I don't get the reference of a son telling his mother a story (?)
@@truenokill his mother helps with the development of the show.
Peoples' tragedies are "comforting" to you??
I’ve thought of, and researched, Gloria’s death many, many, many times through the years. Your description of events is the most logical and comprehensive I’ve found. I was there at Riverside General Hospital when this happened. My mom was on shift that day. It was crazy. Thank you for this one. Well done!
I'm a nurse. In nursing school, we had to do clinical rotations in all areas of the hospital and I really did not like ER simply because you never knew what you were gonna get. This is an excellent example of that.
I was a nurse for 43 years and no matter what setting be prepared for the unexpected
@@mikedineen7857 Yeah, I know there is that aspect in any part of the hospital, but it is far worse in ER, where everyone goes before they're sorted out to various floors and specialties. Most of my work so far has been on a Cardiac/Trauma critical care floor.
My wife is a float nurse at her hospital. The only section she doesn't like going to is er.
Different people are good at different things. It's best for each person to be in the area they're most suited to, no matter where that is. We're better off as a community that way. Good for you for recognizing that. 🙂👍
@@matthewmillar3804 I spent 20 years of my 40 plus career as a critical care float nurse. ED, ICU and CCU. I loved it because I didn’t have to put up with the petty people every day
Amazing story. Really makes one realize how much chemistry is a part of our existence, and how much we still have to learn to truly understand the full implications of that.
We are truly walking talking biochemical labs. We've got it it: the salts, glucose, acids, bases, complex puffer systems, enzymes.
Most doctors want to skip chemistry class they’re more interested in lambo class and yacht class.
@@Pete007 No, I don't believe in any gods. Abiogenesis is a complex and ongoing thesis and my degree is not in that science so obviously I don't have my OWN theory. lol
I'm a nurse with 13 years experience and my wife and I have been watching your channel for years.. this is one of your best and definitely "strange, dark, and mysterious!".. we absolutely LOVED IT. Please keep doing what you do, you're such a raconteur, over 7M subscribers should be proof in the pudding, and BTW, thank you for your service! 🇺🇲
🇵🇱 ..for my Polish wife who absolutely loved this episode also!
Raconteur I’m have to translate that one to bad TH-cam doesn’t respond to the highlighting and dictionary feature, My wife’s been battling it for years. May the Uncreated grace and energies of the triune God heal and protect his people. And grant us good end and firm resolve before his fearful judgement seat.
@@justrubio3121 wtf are you saying
@@ViolatedSkull 😂
@@ViolatedSkull I was just about to ask the same thing 😂😂
What a wild crazy story. I’m a retired RN, have worked Trauma, ER, and it is a crap shoot when a patient comes in. Admin doesn’t have a clue. Healthcare workers are not paid enough to deal with what they deal with.
Hearing Mr Ballens videos go from 4-5 times a week to once a week makes me wanna cry 😭❤️
This is the first time I've seen someone breakdown the chemical process this well. Great job Ballen Bro!
Don't you just love it when the strange dark and mysterious is delivered in story format ong
Love love it❤😂
I'm a fan of it.
Everytime 🥰💯
Best delivery service for me
Great comment....
BTW I love it also, I find the story format so strange dark and mysterious! Ironically enough
I've heard other people talk about this case, but I've never heard it in so much detail and medical knowledge. Good job Mr Ballen!
Anyone else literally watch him tell the story as well as listening? Lol I would love to sit around a campfire and listen to him tell stories! Thanks for all your hard work Mr. Ballen!
Y aand some weirdos in their tin hats think it’s and “alien and not him”
Absolutely. That's why I prefer his videos to his podcasts. It's more personal and I love the animation and hand gestures and how into he gets. It's way better than just hearing him
"When people told themselves their past with stories, explained their present with stories, foretold the future with stories, the best place by the fire was kept for... The Storyteller." --- John Hurt as The Storyteller
I can't stand how he keeps moving his arms
@@SaidNooneEver236 Right...those of us that know better know that he IS an alien...
I'd never heard this story before. Wow, what crazy sequence of events. So sad that the lady's cancer was missed earlier and that everyone had to go through all of this suffering.
Yes exactly only if they diagnosed it on that earlier visit everyone would have been saved.
i think i heard of it (watched a video) a few years back but forgot
Saw it on dark histories recently, bizarre story
my mom finally started watching Mrballen and was confused as to why i was cheering when i heard it in the kitchen
I remember it in the news, I lived in CA at the time, but I never found out the reason. I was thinking it had to be an unintended chemical reaction to form crystals in blood, maybe agriculture industry, but I never imagined anything like accidentally electrochemically manufacturing nerve gas inside of a human body with hardware store ingredients.
I love the way you explain things (like the way doctors restart a patient’s heart) without ever seeming like you’re condescending for us not knowing that…. I don’t know. Excellent work thanks Mr. Ballen!
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@@MrBallen hey is there someone going around using your name on telegram saying to visit them to get a prize or something? I received a comment like that. Not sure if it's a scam or you
@@mmdehnmm it's definitely a scam
@@EvilGeniusGaming84 👍
@@mmdehnmm I notice it on some of the people I follow seems like bot accounts because they all say similar things saying you won a prize they use similar names and pictures to lie to you
Thank you for always telling these stories in such a way of compassion and being thoughtful for the family!
I remember this story very well when it happened. You are the first person to explain the story and sequence of events so adequately. If the hospital was the cause, this would have happened before or even after this incident. My condolences to Gloria’s family and I wish the doctor well. I do not feel this is anyone’s fault. It was a tragic set of circumstances.
Yeah I lived near Riverside back in 1994 and remember it well too. It was on every local tv station "live."
So perfectly said.
“If the hospital was the cause, this would have happened before or even after this incident.”
Now that’s some sound logic.
It was Gloria fault for using something she should not have been using and because of this her family should not have gotten any money. That said, I can imagine that she was trying everything possible to make her cancer go away. The money should've gone to Julie.
I wholeheartedly agree, I've heard this strange and tragic tale many times, yet Mr Ballen gives it humanity!!!🙏😢🤔
I had to listen twice to digest how all this happened … it was unbelievable, yet so fascinating to learn how very innocent substances in combination could become deadly.
It's a crazy story, probably only happened that one time. Such spesific things had to happen. But from what I remember, it wasn't the temperature in the er that caused the crystallization, it was the pressure change.
The nurse used a vacutainer to draw blood, which caused the phase shift, making the toxin airborne.
Chemistry is far from being as well understood in a practical and immediate manner. It's also incredibly difficult to remember all those things when in the midst of delivering trauma care to someone in such critical condition. Additionally, such things are rarely known by medical staff because the likelihood of encountering it is so infinitesimal as to be virtually nonexistent. I remember hearing about this when it happened as it made national news as I was, at the time, a nurse. I recall being completely perplexed at how something like that could happen. Several other colleagues and I would end up following the case and we were all dumbfounded at the conclusion. None of us, nurses and doctors, EMTs and nurse techs were all shocked and realized that none of us were completely aware of how many possible things can trigger changes in chemical compositions inside and outside the body. We knew a lot of things however, there are so many innocuous things that can possibly be interacted with by a human being that can be altered into something else toxic that there is really no way to be either fully knowledgeable or mindful of in a trauma setting. You would be amazed at how simple things can become deadly with a simple addition or subtraction of something equally simple and relatively harmless. John did an amazing job telling this story and I'm very grateful he did.
@@VikingTeddy Yes, I had to rewind, too. And first, the topical DMSO product changed into a new chemical when she was administered oxygen for breathing issues, and next the electroshocks for her heart activated the new chemical into basically nerve gas. In her warm body, the nerve gas was stable but when her blood was drawn in a 66 degree room, it became unstable and starting wafting out. Gases are so creepy because they go through walls and glass, like super helium.
my aunt is one who like to take "all natural" vitamins and herbs to heal herself. But just can't get it thru her head that just because it's "all natural" doesn't mean it's still not a medication and that there are somethings you just can't mix together. and i keep trying to explain that to her everytime she calls me when she has taken some cocktail that she has created and ends up feeling worse. I just tell her that's bc you can't mix XYZ with ABC and if you keep doing this you're going to accidently kill yourself!!!
@@marytramp5678 I have a friend like your aunt, and it terrifies me because she takes St John's Wort and Ginko... which are known to interfere with anesthesia! If she has an accident and needs sedation she's doomed!
I've also heard this story countless times but never with such detail and in a way that portrays Gloria as a sick patient and not just some deadly mystery. Love it!
Imagine being told that a series of unfortunate events turned your family member into a living gas canister, absolutely wild
Even though, there was nothing funny about this situation, the way Ballen described it, a living gas canister I couldn't help but, lol. Even when Ballen said, bodies started thumping on the floor, (the medical staff) I couldn't help but howl with laughter.
On a serious note, at least none of the hospital staff died.
@@kevinmalone3210 Shit happens hey.. like, it's death.. pretty common and no matter how you look at it, you aint getting out alive in the long run, we all go to that great gig in the sky, i often find myself laughing watching these, coffeehouse crime and diretrip. i watch Donut Operator just to laugh at idiots being shot dead, it doesn't mean that you don't acknowledge someone died and someone else had loss, it just means you're like any other human, none of us really give a shit what the next person is doing, we just like the outrage.
And they got 800k because gloria lacked intelligence
@@CyPhaSaRinBruh nobody gave a sh%ť💀
Daym u cold for that @@mastergintoki7
As others have said, I've heard this story many times and this was the first version that has actually personified Gloria. Her death was so unusual, but before that she was a young mom with kids who did everything she could to stay alive. She was so much more than her last 30 minutes. Thanks for making content that goes beyond the sensationalism! Also, as a former (Quincy!) paramedic and current ER nurse, I hope if I ever encounter a wild and mysterious situation like this you narrate the story 🤣
Actually, this is sensationalism. You are being told a story by a person who does not or could not know this information. The reason why the victims, in most of these cases, are polished to a shine, is it makes what happened to them, or others, better. Hence, sensationalism.
sen·sa·tion·al·ism
NOUN
(especially in journalism) the use of exciting or shocking stories or language at the expense of accuracy, in order to provoke public interest or excitement
He is intentionally making the victims look as imaculate as possible using information of what most people would like to hear about a victim. To make it oh so much more tragic, so...exciting of a story.
Don't get me wrong, I love MrBallen and this his channel is phenomical. Part of what makes it compelling is the way he tells the story. But factual? No. The only things factual are usually the peoples names, the literal case of what happened, and anything afterwards he mentions related to the case. Everything else, from how much so and so is caring, and kind, and the way he makes it seem like Gloria was doing it for the kids, was this great mom, etc. He doesn't know that. It just makes the story...more tragic, i.e. sensationalism.
So, you haven't been watching any content that goes "above" sensationalism.
Whilst i understand that she did cause untold damage to others
Fascinating and tragic story, very well told by MrB. My heart goes out to all those affected.
I love the way that California's Dept of Human and Health Services just put this down to "mass sociogenic illness", which seems to be a clever way for people with PhDs to say "I don't know".
What an insult to all the doctors and nurses in the hospital who fell ill that day to be told "It was all in your mind".
Glad that some real scientists actually did some work and found the true cause of this tragic event.
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And then covid happened!
This was one of the most interesting stories I’ve ever heard. It makes me wonder how many mysterious deaths have been mislabeled.
It happens so often. Hospitals can be terrifying place sometimes. I just did a true crime story of a doctor tainting peoples IVs causing them severe heart attacks!
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Just Evil 😡
Happy New Year All 🥳
@@mystery_sauce I just subscribed to your channel. I’ll be binging your content tonight lol.
@@chellebb1311 thank you. I’m trying something new with my content. I’ll be posting a new story later on.
I've heard those story many times. as many comments have said, Gloria is always referred to as the "Toxic Lady," and the explanation is always omitted, so this is the first time I'm hearing it! this is part of the reason I love this channel.
This is my favorite episode from him. As an EMT and ICU staff member myself, I can appreciate just how nuts this is. 😲😲
Mrballen, I saw the announcement of this and I always look forward to your releases. As one veteran to another thank you for what you do and taking your time to put these video together! You do an amazing job. Your courage and persistent to push forward is inspirational. I myself was wounded in Afghanistan by an IED also and felt into depression for a while but I got back up. A few months ago I decided to start my own true crime channel and I find it interesting and it keeps the mind busy. Again thank you for being an inspiration to some of us.
He is my favorite ytuber🥰
Awesome, your channel looks great so I'm about to go dive in. New sub from New Zealand. 😁👌👍
@@lindyjourde7411 thank you lindy. Really appreciate that 😃
@@ArrowMaster_ agreed. He’s my top one. Who is in your top 3? I’m always looking for good recommendations.
@@mystery_sauce That's probably gonna be some Minecraft youtubers lol. But if you want these crime kinds of videos I would recommend JCS
My dad was proscribed DMSO for his terminal colon cancer by a quack doctor. I was just a teenager. I remember how horrible he smelled when we got in the car with him. This bizarre episode brings back strange memories. This story is absolutely truthful, thanks for posting.
calling someone a quack doctor for prescribing dmso shows your ignorant as a stump,
millions of people use dmso. most people who have cancer use alternative health.
I dunno DMSO works well for me with my interstitial cystitis, and it works amazingly. But, installed into the bladder it’s been proven safe. It’s a miracle for me. But, creeps me out what happened to this woman.
Used DMSO as a medicinal for my horse, with DMSO, you have to be Extremely careful, as your skin MUST be ultra clean with no chemical, medicinal or whatnot on it, as DMSO will take whatever is on your skin and absorb it into the body, hence great care is needed for its use.
Wow. Did he too get a garlic odor?
@@margaretneanover3385 Not everyone gets a garlic small. Maybe it depends how much one uses.
I've been watching this channel for around 3yrs. or so and knew right away it was going to blow-up.
I'd been introduced to Mr.Allen professionally about 6yrs. ago and knew right away there was something special about him.
Keep up the good work my man,there's still so many rungs on the ladder to climb.
Love & Respect
-D
I can't believe the hospital said the staff was suffering from mass hysteria. I feel bad for Gloria and everyone who got ill. 😔
I know! It's just such a mystery and it's so sad. People want to have someone to blame when someone passes away but yeah the whole Mass hysteria thing has never set right with me.
That’s a risk you run when you employ such a large percentage of females compared to males.
@@davidgv3527 there are more male doctors though......
@@proudfatherofadeadweightso5715 I think he means there's a higher ratio of nurses to doctors, and more female nurses than male (i could be wrong). I don't agree with what he's saying, just trying to find the point
@@jsully8076 It's just like a made up excuse to cancel any lawsuits. Look up dancing plague of 1518
Heard this story on Buzzfeed Unsolved, but you just made it seem more human, whereas there they just reported completely on the case, you took the time to talk about her as a person and go into more detail as to why what happened to her might've happened and that's why I love how you cover such topics!
It's so crazy how many previously unsolved stories have been figured out in the last couple years; after hearing this story so many times with no resolution it's so cool to hear a believable and probable answer and to hear more about Gloria, not just the circumstances of her death.
Agree! I was even a little hesitant to listen to it again because of hearing it so many times and then I was so excited when there were new developments!
the forensics lab figured it out what happened in 1995, 28 years ago...
@@crazysilly2914 exactly. The autopsies were done on a rotation wearing full hazmat suits, so they were only exposed for very short periods of time. The chemical equations were done to show the production of the nerve gas, and she was later buried in a lead lined coffin because of the biohazard.
Back when 60 Minutes first covered this with Mike Wallace, in that segment Mike also interviewed a scientist from Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory a federal research facility in Livermore, California. He also explained the chemical reactions going on in Gloria's body and this resulted in DMSO2 (possibly DMSO4). Nerve agent basically. Facinating story and sad too. R.I.P Gloria Cecilia Ramirez (January 11, 1963 - February 19, 1994).
I worked at Riverside General Hospital during this time period. I was not there but remember how crazy it all was. I knew some of the doctors involved. Great job, MrBallen. You really made Gloria a person and not just a mysterious case.
this is amazing her body was a nerve gas factory
unbelievable
@@skypilot23 I've (somewhat regrettably) have seen videos of the effects of nerve gas on people, and it's completely terrifying. I think most countries have agreed that the use of nerve gas is inhumane and breaks the rules of engagement, even during war times.
Wow that’s crazy!
I was going to just ask this in the comments but since you maybe have a little more knowledge than the general public I'll ask here - why did the hospital settle money on this woman's family? 🤨. That sounds a little callous and I don't mean it to be, seems like it was mostly just a horrible string of ill luck that led to a completely unforeseeable outcome, but it was unforeseeable and some of the woman's own actions purportedly led to it. I wouldn't blame the woman for the outcome but neither would I think the hospital had any culpability in just doing their job.
@@turtlepowersf yes to think of the horrors perpetuated upon humans by thier fellows is awful
Mr. Ballen, you are by far the BEST storyteller in the world!!! I find myself unable to look away during each episode!! Thank you, sir, for sharing your superpower with all of us. We love & appreciate you!!!❤️
I look away all the time. Mr Ballen got the best TH-cam videos where I can be getting something else done while listening to an awesome story
I have hear Gloria story few times, it is kinda rough that after you have perished you get nickname "Toxic Lady", thank you for humanizing her and for the lovely storyteller format
Some dead chick cause others to pass out. Who cares.
She literally was toxic
@@rb8165 well yes but that wasn’t her name. she was a person, mother, wife, etc. she wasn’t just a medical anomaly project.
@@rb8165 and? Doesnt matter what she was at the time, doesnt define her lol.
Would you like to be called Dead Bitch, when you’re dead?
but she was toxic asf
I’m glad he did this story. I wanted to hear him tell it. I’ve always been intrigued by this story
I can’t believe I never heard her story before. Incredibly sad, sending love to her family.
Rest peacefully, Gloria.
I hadn't either but looking at the comments this was the best. Its so sad. I commented why or what was the blood draw results. Two ppl saw the strange crystals and no one gave the results of it.
Him telling it is a good way to be introduced to the story. He really humanizes the people and make you feel like you knew them.
Buzzfeed unsolved did this story first, pretty interesting
For years I wondered if anyone ever found figured out what caused the incident in the trauma room. Nice to hear an answer and hear Gloria's story before that day. Definitely the best storyteller I've listened to.
Yes. I remember the story, only as patient died and nurses collapsed...never any further details nor explanation.
I still find it odd that drawing blood into a syringe, which is basically enclosed, would spread enough gas into the hospital to cause 23 new patients.
@@rwatson2609 probably because there was now an open wound, since they have to draw blood somehow. The gasses created would have to escape the blood, and spread in the air.
@@jellypeaches26 Maybe so. I guess there must have been some reason that people started dropping at that very moment. I do find that the storyteller becomes paramount to our understanding of what really happened since withholding some information can change the conclusion that we all might reach.
I'm glad to have this cleared up. Remember hearing about this lady ages ago, but with the reason for the toxic outbreak around her being unknown, it was presented almost like some supernatural event.
In fairness to anyone trying to make sense of this the circumstances are just so bizarre you would be forgiven for thinking something oogy boogy like was going on.
It was right next to the bleeding house, and rightfully so. Real events with such strange circumstances
The complete Gloria Story ever 👍🏼 Thanks Mr. Ballen.
Your ability to narrate the stories is so effective that it feels we are witnessing the scene live. Keep it up
This story, in isolation, is terrifying but what it makes me think about most is that at a point in history people willingly dropped this on people in a warzone. Utterly chilling.
He already told this story before. Your quality is dropping big time recently
@@tomb4250 What are you talking about? Are you sure you did not hear it somewhere else?
@@tomb4250 the only thing dropping in quality is the former Republican Party. Dropping like a dead pigeon.
@@lizardog what does this have anything to do with his comment?
@@lizardog There is always someone that sees everything through politics, not matter what it is.
I did a report on this case for an English class a while ago. your video had some details even I couldn’t find! these stories are always told so well
I remember that, in the 80s, DMSO was a huge thing. It was being hyped as the miracle cure "they" didn't want you to have, and people were using it for just about every ailment you could think of. Frightening to think how often Gloria's scenario could've played out.
Dimethyl Sulfide is not really dangerous for the most part, in fact it is still widely used commercially. Just an extremely rare and unfortunate series of chemical reactions
Yeah, DMSO isn't dangerous. It's being used regularly by thousands of Drs to this day. Any medical supply catalog has it. Funny how many patients used DMSO, were on oxygen tanks and were getting electrolysis treatments twice a week. Yet nothing happened. No, this story is true, but the explanation is nonsense. Notice how so much detail was given, yet no explanation of what these mysterious chemical reactions were. I have 2 chemists I talk to regularly, they both started laughing about that.
Lots of things can have beneficial effects but still have harmful side-effects. Those things are usually regulated for safety. "Dietary supplements" aren't really regulated with these side-effects in mind, so you get problems. DMSO is no different. Yes, lots of people have used it "successfully", but there have also been a number of cases where that use became dangerous and even deadly.
@@yootoobsuks4210 Actually, dietary supplements aren't regulated *at all.* The FDA is trying to get oversight but has so far failed.
But this wasn't a dietary supplement; it was a cream she rubbed on her skin.
It does work, apparently, but because its not an official med, it sometimes gets mixed up as body lotion, so your family may not be aware you're self-medicating. ALL substances need to seen as affecting your body. Your food, your cleansing products..they affect you and can cause interactions. I just had to look up how white grapefruit juice can change your medication reaction, its crazy everything we don't know.
I’ve heard this story many times, THIS was the first time I really understood what happened. Thank you for that. I also love that you are very clearly, tactically mapping out how things are in relation to each other, it helps me so much when I can easily follow your eyes and hands for that extra information.
I am a retired nurse. This video is the kind of medical mystery I love! This fantastic story was made even better because you are an excellent storyteller. There are so many baffling diseases and facts about the human body that doctors and scientists have not discovered.
One newly discovered organ is the mesentery which was previously thought to belong only to the digestive system. The organ is a double fold of peritoneum - the lining of the abdominal cavity - that holds our intestine to the wall of our abdomen. Our skin used to be considered the largest organ in the body. The mesentery now has that honor.
Two Oncologists in Amsterdam also recently discovered the tubarial glands while testing patients and corpses with PET and CT scans. The team has dubbed the glands “tubarial glands” for their location within the body. They’re about the same size as the body’s three main salivary glands. Still, they sit on either side of the nasopharynx, which connects the nasal passages to the rest of the human body’s respiratory system. Most salivary and mucous glands within the nasopharynx are microscopic. No one knows the function of the appendix, but many Drs think it may be vestigial. Who knows what will be discovered next about the human body?
Sources: USA Today
and Extremetech
I wonder whether that newly discovered mesentery is the source of fibromyalgia which causes great misery but some people think is imaginary because the cause/source eludes detection.
@extreme thinking 🧠 your comment was also unnecessary. how do you know of their career? you know them personally??
That's so fascinating! I'm not in the medical profession, but human anatomy and medicine in general is something I have always enjoyed learning about. Thank you for sharing that!
@@el-oq7he right! That's what I'm saying how unnecessary as if it must be impossible she's a nurse cause yuh no nurses don't go on TH-cam lol smh
@@kryptkeeper8395 I’m a nurse, too… and omg look at me, here on the TH-cams… 😂 I guess we’re not real people.
This is wild. It’s insane what stories are out there that we would never hear without you Mr. Ballen!!!
this story has been told hundreds, if not thousands of times on a wide number of channels, articles, research, etc. It's not exactly new. There are literally hundreds of comments talking about how often others have heard this exact same story over the last 30 years.
@@jessicahannah2522 I mean that’s great but I’ve never heard it. But I also don’t watch a ton of TH-camrs or the news for that matter. I was giving my fave TH-camr a compliment, for sharing what he does and in such a fantastic way. He’s my favorite storyteller and I could listen to a tale as old as time coming from him and still be drawn in and excited to hear it.
Excellent explaining of this unbelievably horrible sequence of events. My dear Mom passed from colon cancer in 2021. With Covid raging and blocking us from seeing her that whole last year, I'm so grateful that something like this didn't make it even worse. Thanks MrB🙏💔
she was my brothers tia and i want to thank you for speaking on her as a person and actually doing research on her💖
Wasn't she on methamphetamine?
no she wasn't
Wouldn't that make her your tia too?
Why’d you say your brothers tia? Doesnt that make her yours too? Is he your half brother or something?
@@The_Boys____ no we have different dads
This is the best version of the story I've listened to so far. Love you, Mr. Ballen.
I knew about this story when it happened and, at the time, I was working as a nurse. To say we were mind-blown at the time would be a gross understatement. Several of my colleagues and I followed the case and were dumbfounded at the conclusion. Honestly, there is no way to be mindful of such a thing when its probability of occurring is so exceptionally remote. It's even harder to be mindful of it when not all the information is present and one is delivering critical trauma care. The way you told the story is the best I've heard to date and made me feel as if I were there at the time. I also love the way you humanized Gloria and Julie. I think it brings home to listeners and viewers how real and terrible it was for them to endure everything they were enduring/have endured. May Gloria rest in peace and may Julie do good medicine until the day she retires. Thank you again, John!
I remember this too! The poor woman died, yet she was vilified in the California papers and newscasts. It was disgusting. When DMSO was linked to the toxic event, I was shocked. In 1982 my best friend had been using DMSO for a gymnastics related knee injury and I thought it had later been banned.
Love how Mr. Ballen able to make a clear and obvious point about the facts. Been listening for lots of versions of this story but never got the chance to hear it in a way like Mr. Ballen did. Kudos!!
I absolutely ❤the fact that Ballen can take a story I’ve heard previously & present it in such a unique way-it’s like hearing it for the 1st x! His writers are gold!
I’m pretty sure he writes his own stuff
I believe he and his mum write them or at least they use to
He and his mother write the stories although I think it’s mostly his mother , he made a lovely video about it ❤️
@@fionanisbett3995 I heard that his mum is an educated and talented woman.
I have heard this story over a dozen times and I still learned from this one and was totally entertained the entire time.
Literally never heard this story before. The odds of those events happening in the right way and in the right order to produce a nerve gas in Gloria’s blood must be astronomical. Very well conveyed again Mr Ballen, thanks so much. RIP Gloria and best wishes to Julie x
Ty for this clarification on Gloria’s story . I’ve heard this story a few times but never fully detailed like this . Now I can understand it and makes sense ty .
I’ve heard this story so many times now , but you told it in such a way that I understand it better now , you added so much more to her story you made her a real person not just an oddity, thank you so much 😊
Like a lot of other commenters, this is the first time I've heard someone humanize this poor woman... She had a life before she became the toxic woman... I'm sure her spirit appreciates reclaiming her humanity through your telling of her story.
She was also very irresponsible and caused much suffering and harm to another woman.
@@anadubar4819
I beg to differ. She used DSMO as many people do. She had no idea that receiving oxygen and then shock paddles would turn her into a toxic person. Many people to this day use and swear by dsmo. Maybe you should look into it before claiming this woman was irresponsible. Not to mention she was being told she was going to die.... and many people will try alternative therapies to better their health. I see nothing wrong with her using dsmo.... I've looked into it myself.
@@anadubar4819
Howabout the hospital being irresponsible for NOT catching the cancer the 1st time she went to the hospital?? Had they caught it, she wouldn't have had to try something as extreme as alternate treatments and this would never have happened. Think before you spout off your hate of anyone but yourself
@@anadubar4819 how could she predict that would happen its literally a freak accident bro
@@quicksnipes2393because it doesn’t always get caught. She killed a woman and put others in danger. She’s technically a murderer.
John just wanted to let you know your content always helps me get through a tough day, I'm in early recovery from opiate addiction and when I feel like using I put on one of your vids and it never fails to take my mind off the negative. Thank you for being who you are.
This is exactly why you have to divulge what other medications, both pharmaceuticals or herbal alternative supplements, when you are admitted to any hospital ER or go to any medical clinics for treatment for anything....
This was a horrible mistake on Gloria's part. And if her own family knew about it, they absolutely should have alerted her Dr's immediately 🤦♀️
This is the craziest story yet! Thank you for being my ambassador to the strange, dark, and mysterious.
Grew up in riverside from the time I was born in 91 until 2016. I have never heard this story in my life. The fact that he can find this kind of content truly speaks to his hard work and determination. Thank you for keeping up the great work. Been watching since day 1
You would've been only 3 yrs old when this happened. So not surprising you didn't know about it.
Alright guys .. let’s all take 20 minutes out of our Saturday for another episode of the strange, dark, and mysterious delivered in story form!!!
Is there any other option?
Stop the D-Riding
Get off his nuts Jalen
Perfect listening on a Saturday morning drive
Some of my favorite times of the week
Your version was phenomenal. I love that you went into detail about the chemical reactions. 10/10!!!🎉🎉